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The Note: McCain Swings, Misses in Bid to Shift Race

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October 08, 2008 9:05 AM

ABC News' Rick Klein reports in Wednesday's Note:

NASHVILLE -- John McCain wanted to have 10 of these?

The town-hall meeting may have been Sen. John McCain’s salvation in the primaries, but McCain and Sen. Barack Obama roamed the stage for 90 minutes to end up basically where they started. (Here’s guessing Gov. Sarah Palin doesn’t spy any gloves on the mat.)

It was a status quo debate, in a solidifying contest, and McCain didn’t win in a clash he needed to be all his. For a campaign looking for pivot points, for big ways to change the direction of a race that has veered out of its control, there’s not much in place Wednesday that wasn’t there Tuesday. (And the ongoing market meltdown probably would have swamped it anyway.)

Your consensus: McCain lost, by not winning. Even the Jell-O didn’t stick. He now has precisely one opportunity left to command the simultaneous attention of the assembled press corps and the nation at large -- and it might come too late to move the big rocks assembled in his path.

“If McCain's principal mission was to change the course of the campaign, it was difficult to find evidence that he succeeded,” Doyle MacManus writes in the Los Angeles Times. “In a debate that served largely as an empathy competition, the two candidates battled to something like a draw.”

Read the rest of The Note -- and get all the latest on the 2008 election, Congress, the White House and the wide world of politics every day -- from Rick Klein by bookmarking this link.

Politico’s Roger Simon: “If you had to say somebody lost Tuesday night, it was McCain. Because he had to win and he did not. He is the one who has to change the current trajectory of the campaign, and he did not do that.”

ABC’s George Stephanopoulos scores it for Obama, with an A on substance, compared with McCain’s B+: “It was Obama who once again edged out McCain in the debate, sticking to his strategy of portraying himself ready to serve as president. . . . We saw Obama continue with the strategy that he started with in the first debate: showing that he belongs up there on that stage as a potential Commander-in-Chief. That is where Obama made his greatest advances tonight, and he will likely be seen as the winner of this debate.” 

CNN polling called it 54-30 for Obama; CBS’ uncommitted voters had it 40-26 in the same direction. 

The clip that’s destined for a thousand replays: McCain calling Obama “That One.” (Did he mean, “The One”?)

“Senator Obama has a name,” Obama strategist David Axelrod said in the post-debate spin room, per ABC’s Teddy Davis and Arnab Datta. “You'd expect your opponent to use that name.” 

Continue reading today's Note by clicking HERE.

ABC News' Hope Ditto contributed to this report.

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McCain sounded like Palin a couple of times, starting off answering one question and then wondering off into something else.But he's a maverick, right.

Ex Republican

Posted by: RGeier | Oct 8, 2008 9:39:38 AM

Rove said an interesting thing on Fox last night: basically, if you are against the Iraq war then you are in Obama's camp. That's writing off a lot of voters, no?

Posted by: MIguy | Oct 8, 2008 9:41:13 AM

Can't HP Boston read or hear? It was McCain who made the remark about not knowing Fannie and Freddie. He said it to the questioner who was African American in a condescending, "You blacks wouldn't understand" way. So if according to your logic whoever said this was 'rude and disrespectful', your words not mine, then it was McCain who was rude and disrespectful.

Posted by: plainview | Oct 8, 2008 9:43:07 AM

Howard Gallas: Yes, McCain was in the room but its hard to see Obama because he is so dark. They need better lighting.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 8, 2008 9:45:06 AM

Town Hall's are very boring.. no wonder McCain likes them... and good for Obama for not wanting them.

Brokaw was awful... worse than McCain.

But if McCain wanted a game changer, he didn't get one... and he couldn't deliver it anyway... he looked very old and tired and made way too many faces.

He just does not look or talk like a president.... and his VP choice is a bigger joke... you can't take Palin serious, because she doesn't take it serious, with all her flirting and winking and backwoods sayings. She is just not professional... more like a walmart cashier.

The two make a perfect pair... but just not what this country needs.

Obama won hands down and as always, kept his cool, remained calm, and connected with the people.

Obama, a true leader.

Posted by: l | Oct 8, 2008 9:46:15 AM

Marianne YOU ARE SO RACISIT BETTER GO WASH YOUR SHEET

Posted by: angie | Oct 8, 2008 9:47:03 AM

Obama was the clear winner in last nights debate. On another note, I want to thank the media for posting fact checks. The fact checks hold the candidates accountable and reveal the truth to the American people. You would think Palin would stop lying.

Posted by: Cyndi | Oct 8, 2008 9:47:49 AM

McCain refused to prioritize actions to address the most urgent issues facing our nation. I'm not the least surprised at this failure to lead.

To simply say we can do everything at once, and have it all, just because we are Americans, is an insult to the American public. As a promise, it's reckless, as a policy, hopeless, as a conviction, mindless.

Pandering at such a primitive level is what you get from those whose retarded ideology precipitated this unmitigated disaster.

Posted by: rogerthomas | Oct 8, 2008 9:55:39 AM

Mariann Pepitone - So, now the truth comes out - you're a rascist! Thank you for your candor.

Posted by: geecee | Oct 8, 2008 9:56:04 AM

The format of the debate was not conducive to touching Obama's SERIOUS PROBLEM

Voters have ther RIGHT TO KNOW Obama's DEEP CONNECTION with Ayers and many other RADICALS. This is A SERIOUS ISSUE.

Obama and New York Times say Obama’s relationship with Ayers is casual. But how can we EXPLAIN that OBAMA LAUNCHED HIS POLITICAL CAREER at AYERS' HOUSE?
Ayers still believes the BOMBING was not ENOUGH and praised Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela.

Posted by: Geon Lee | Oct 8, 2008 9:57:02 AM

The format of the debate was not conducive to touching Obama's SERIOUS PROBLEM

Voters have ther RIGHT TO KNOW Obama's DEEP CONNECTION with Ayers and many other RADICALS. This is A SERIOUS ISSUE.

Obama and New York Times say Obama’s relationship with Ayers is casual. But how can we EXPLAIN that OBAMA LAUNCHED HIS POLITICAL CAREER at AYERS' HOUSE?
Ayers still believes the BOMBING was not ENOUGH and praised Hugo Chavez, the president of Venezuela.

Posted by: Geon Lee | Oct 8, 2008 9:57:02 AM

Hey HP Boston - it was McCain who made those condescending remarks about people not knowing what Freddie and Fannie are, not Obama. And it's Obama, not Obuma. Who's the idiot here?

Posted by: Bilbo | Oct 8, 2008 10:00:23 AM

I think the most important thing to come out of that debate last night...

is a very bad wolf "foxnews" showed that they might be the worst wolf in sheep's clothing that got us here over the last decade.

If their was any sign how out of touch and destructively manipulating the American people Fox News is

it is there poll from viewers on who won the debate.

Every other news agency and pollster has Obama winning...and they have it
90 to 10 Mccain.

"Fair and Balanced"

should probably not do those viewer polls anymore

as they show how a whacked minority can act like a national pool.

you want to know how we got HERE

the creation of Fox News a little over a decade ago...

isn't it funny that as soon as we have this new "news agency"

all this malarkey got spread...

and it happens to be a news agency started by a right wing partisan hack.

Only with Fox news being created could America be "frauded" into electing Bush Cheney.

Luckily this time America might learn.

Go look at how out of touch their poll of their viewers is with every other poll.

Posted by: dl | Oct 8, 2008 10:06:13 AM

I think the most important thing to come out of that debate last night...

is a very bad wolf "foxnews" showed that they might be the worst wolf in sheep's clothing that got us here over the last decade.

If there was any sign how out of touch and destructively manipulating the American people Fox News is

it is their poll from viewers on who won the debate.

Every other news agency and pollster has Obama winning...and they have it
90 to 10 Mccain.

"Fair and Balanced"

should probably not do those viewer polls anymore

as they show how a whacked minority can act like a national pool.

you want to know how we got HERE

the creation of Fox News a little over a decade ago...

isn't it funny that as soon as we have this new "news agency"

all this malarkey got spread...

and it happens to be a news agency started by a right wing partisan hack.

Only with Fox news being created could America be "frauded" into electing Bush Cheney.

Luckily this time America might learn.

Go look at how out of touch their poll of their viewers is with every other poll.

Posted by: dl | Oct 8, 2008 10:07:00 AM

Yeah McCain wanted 10 town halls...
What he did was: he said he wanted 10 town halls for the sake of appearances. He & his campaign proceeded to place conditions (they control the audience, they control the format, they control the questions...) that no idiot would agree to so that Obama had no choice except to reject. They knew he would & then they'd have their excuse to do what ever they wanted & every time they're called on it they just say "well he wouldn't do what we wanted". Now that we've actually seen McCain & Obama walking the same stage it's painfully obvious that Obama wipes the floor with him. McCain looked like a lost, scared, confused, pathetic old man in comparison. I actually felt sorry for him on a few occasions last night...

Posted by: Palinator | Oct 8, 2008 10:07:15 AM

Paige: Flag pins are a choice. Obama never wore one for a long time until he was critized as an anti-american. But of course we all know he was anti-american along with William Ayers. And as far as the debate goes neither one of them said anything new. Three of the news media said it was a tie. Now, both of them said they would change social security. I thought the debate came off very good and both kept their cool. Of course your going to have disagreements. One is democrat and the other republican. Get a grip.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 8, 2008 10:08:42 AM

MARIANNE DID YOU WASH YOUR SHEET YET?it is people like you why this country is so bitterly divided if you have children i fell sorry for them!

Posted by: angie | Oct 8, 2008 10:12:24 AM

Palinator: I don't think you understand politics and anything that was said last night. Besides that age has nothing to do with politics. I don't think your parents are under 40 years of age. And your lucky if they live as long as McCain. Didn't Tim Rustert drop dead on the Meet The Press floor of a heart attack. Wake up. McCain did a very good job at explaining everything. Obama tries to set a good example but he doesn't know foreign policy like McCain. Obama is still in training. Biden will run the country and Obama will take the credit.

Posted by: Mariann Pepitone | Oct 8, 2008 10:12:55 AM

Did anyone notice how Michele walked along the side of Barack and Cindy walked behind McCain. That shows me Barack accepts women as equals and McCain doesn't.... That't the leader I want.

President Obama!!!

Posted by: truth | Oct 8, 2008 10:13:41 AM

Barack showed me he has life experience and McCain has government experience. Becasue Barack has been there, done that he can help the country move forward.

Posted by: truth | Oct 8, 2008 10:14:59 AM

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