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Biden: No 'Real Gaffes' as VP
November 03, 2008 6:35 PM
ABC News' Matt Jaffe reports: On Election Eve, Sen. Joe Biden, D-Del., said that in the past two and a half months since Sen. Barack Obama, D-Ill., selected him as running mate, he has been "value-added" to the Democratic ticket and never made any "big gaffes."
"I think we've run a really good campaign," Biden said today. "And for all the stuff about gaffes, I don’t think there have been any real gaffes. I mean, I don’t see anything in your polling data demonstrating any of that stuff you guys love to write about."
"I never make any big, big gaffes," he added. "I mean, you guys love saying that about me, but I tell you what, just look at the numbers. I don’t have any problem with what I’ve said and there’s nothing I’ve said that I would back off of."
Republicans have ripped numerous Biden remarks over the past few months, with Sen. John McCain, R-Ariz., at one point calling him "the gift that keeps on giving." The GOP nominee also used Biden’s words against Obama, airing a Republican campaign ad featuring Biden’s guarantee at a Seattle fundraiser that if elected, Obama would be "tested" by an international crisis.
Aboard his afternoon flight from Kansas City, Mo., to Columbus, Ohio, today, the Democratic vice presidential nominee came to the back of the plane to speak with reporters for the first time since an off-the-record session with reporters on a flight Sept. 9 from Chicago to Boston. Various comments from Biden's 45-minute session that night leaked to The Associated Press, which did not have a reporter on the plane, and the news agency later reported some of Biden's off-the-record remarks.
"You may remember my saying to you all at the very beginning -- in the off-the-record meeting we had, which turned out not to be off-the-record, which is why I haven't been back to see you in a long while, is John is a genuine economic conservative," Biden told reporters.
"John genuinely believes in this economic policy, which we in somewhat derisive terms call trickle-down," continued Biden, before criticizing McCain's foreign policy approach of "American exceptionalism."
"John's basically a go-it-alone guy," said the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations committee. "You know, it is John's fervent, and I admire it, fervent belief in sort of American exceptionalism, I mean, you know, 'Just gonna, we just go out and do it.'"
"John is the guy who lectures our Europeans friends, you know what I mean, and says 'Hey, let me tell you'," Biden said. "You know, and so diplomacy isn't a big piece of John. So in those two ways, John has been completely in my view, consistent with who John was."
In recent weeks, Biden has blasted McCain's campaign tactics and today he acknowledged that he was "disappointed" in GOP attacks and believed McCain had to be "uncomfortable" with them, too.
"I don't have any regret about it on our side," Biden said. "I really am a little disappointed in John. You know, I don't think John consciously sits down and says, you know, 'Let's go do the stuff that…' -- I can't believe he's not uncomfortable with it. You know what I mean? I just think John's like, 'I just gotta put on these combat boots, man, I gotta sludge through this, I got one shot, I gotta punch through and guys, you got the campaign, do what you think you gotta do and I'm gonna go out there and make my case about not quitting it and what it is.'"
Perhaps not to get drawn into any partisan digs, Biden refused to comment on a McCain adviser calling Republican vice presidential nominee Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin "a whack job" and "a diva."
Citing the heated battles of the campaign trail, the Delaware lawmaker emphasized the importance of bridging the partisan divide in the country, no matter who wins on Election Day, but he expressed optimism that Americans are so focused on getting the nation "back on track" that the days of bitter partisanship are coming to an end.
Biden noted that he does believe that the president-elect has to win by such a substantial margin on Tuesday night to gain "an electoral mandate" to accomplish things in Washington.
"There is, there is this sense across the board -- big things are happening, man," he said. "This isn't small-bore stuff. This is not small-bore stuff, whether you view it as crises or not, it's not small-bore stuff. And uh, I think that, so I think that there is at a minimum a mandate for -- trite phrase -- for change. I think the debate's gonna be what is changing. Nobody, nobody out there can look at the status quo, you know, so it really is top-down, bottom-up."
Heading into Election Day, Biden predicted a victory in the state of his birth, Pennsylvania, but was not as optimistic about two other key battleground states that he is visiting in his last day on the trail -- Ohio and Missouri.
"I still think we win Pennsylvania, to be honest with you," he predicted. "I'll be surprised if we do not. I'll be disappointed if we do not. I feel good about it."
"If I had to I’d bet you on Pennsylvania," said the Scranton-born senator. "I don’t want to bet you on Ohio or Missouri."
But Biden cautioned that the Keystone State is always a closely fought race and that former POW McCain does have a certain appeal to voters there.
"We have never won it by more than 51 percent of the vote, so no matter how you cut it, no matter how good you are, it's always close when you win, number one," he said. "And I expect it to be close again. And number two, I think John has a -- an appeal as a war hero. I don't -- I mean that in a complimentary way."
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Go Joe. I saw all the Democratic candidates much earlier this year/late 2007. Joe Biden was the most down-to-earth of the bunch. I'm glad he got the nod, but too bad I won't be able to drink a beer with him again. Vice Presidents don't appear at small bars and socialize, do they?
Posted by: Mike A. In Iowa | Nov 3, 2008 6:47:44 PM
Why is ABC blackening its website? Did I see ABC has ever done it when an American Soldier was killed in Iraq fighting for his country?
Posted by: skinny dog | Nov 3, 2008 6:52:48 PM
Biden and McCain are two warmongering windbags who are corrupt to the core.
Posted by: hmn | Nov 3, 2008 7:09:09 PM
I like Joe Biden.
He was a good choice!
Posted by: Julie | Nov 3, 2008 7:15:16 PM
Biden needs to be tranquilized then heavily medicated and put somewhere where he can't hurt himself (like Gitmo). He has lost it completely. "Huffers / puffers" make more sense than he does! Let him finish wasting away on high dosages of Thorazine on a tropical island. Good night and good riddance Joey
Posted by: rachel | Nov 3, 2008 7:18:06 PM
Thank you Julie for a nice thought.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 3, 2008 7:18:25 PM
Why does the media keep harping on this issue? Biden may have a habit of making off-the-cuff remarks and sometimes putting his foot in his mouth, but he has a hell of a lot more foreign policy experience than the VP candidate that McCain so "thoroughly" vetted. How are Biden's off-the-cuff remarks any worse than the unintelligible interviews Palin gave to Katie Couric?
I would much rather see Biden in the White House than that fool from Alaska. What scares me is that McCain could kick the bucket at any time and we would be left with an intellectual lightweight with no foreign policy experience for a President. And if you try to argue that Palin has executive experience, your arguments will fall on deaf ears. Alaska has less than 700,000 people. The mayor of NYC, presiding over 11 million people, has more executive experience than the governor of a podunk state who tries to claim foreign policy experience by touting the fact that she can "see Russia" from her home-state (never mind that you can only see Russia from some small island off the coast of Alaska, and that Moscow is all the way at the western end of Russia and therefore far, far away from Alaska). By that reasoning, because I grew up in the NYC area and am a close drive from the Canadian border, I'm a foreign policy guru too.
Oh, and by the way, did any of you hear about the prank call that the Canadian disc jockeys pulled on Palin the other day? Not only was she exposed as an ignorant fool (i.e. she doesn't even know who the Prime Minister of Canada is), but when the disc jockeys were talking about said Prime Minister, she pretended to know exactly what she was talking about--i.e. she tried to fake it, even though she was exposed as ignorant the moment the disc jockeys named the prime minister as Stef Carse (a Canadian rock star).
This is the person conservatives would have in the number 2 spot? An intellectually incurious person who can barely string together a proper sentence? Another George W. Bush, except this time in a skirt and heels? And the press is worried about the occasional gaffe from Biden? Give me a break.
-A registered independent
Posted by: Vivi | Nov 3, 2008 7:26:17 PM
Vivi,
Good post. It's nice to know that independent thinkers are still around.
Posted by: samurai | Nov 3, 2008 7:30:06 PM
I fear he believes that he has never made a gaffe in his entire political career...
Posted by: matt | Nov 3, 2008 7:33:35 PM
Good Lord. I wonder what he does consider a gaffe.
Posted by: Karen LH | Nov 3, 2008 7:53:22 PM
Clearly Joe's comments in Seattle about Obama's probable handling of foreign policy should not be regarded as a gaffe, but a revelation. "Mark my words. "It will not be six months before the world tests Barack Obama like they did John Kennedy….. Watch, we're gonna have an international crisis, a generated crisis, to test the mettle of this guy." Vladimir Lenin said, “Probe with a bayonet: if you meet steel, stop. If you meet mush, then push.”
Under Kennedy we barely avoided nuclear war, and he mandated our military commitment to Vietnam. In those cases adversaries reverenced their homelands, and present positions of power enough to mitigate probing when facing resolute actions. In this case, the Wahhabi/ Salafi heresy rejects traditional Muslim allegiances to family, tribe, ethnicity, and country, embracing murder and desolation for both means and ends. In this case, the Twelfth Imam Shiite heresy, now dominating Iran religious/ political life, envisions utter chaos preceding the imam arrival. The Caliphate sought and Twelfth Imam arrival both postulate catastrophic regional and worldwide devastation. Cherishing no particular human or physical remnant leaves rogue states and terrorists immune to diplomacy, containment or retaliation.
Abominable weapons technologies and inventories, not bayonets, provide capabilities now permeating global locations. F.B.I. Director Mueller reports enough highly enriched uranium worldwide to arm thousands of nuclear weapons, and to fuel a seller’s market in the so-called atomic bazaar.
Chemical and biological agents can emanate from dual-use facilities and cottage industries. The biological pathogens, which decimated Europe, remain ready for exploitation one step away in our food chain. Open societies provide excellent delivery means where 2,000 to 20,000 people work and travel within closed HVAC systems. Complex fresh water and food distribution systems invite chemical and biological intrusions.
Terrorist converts include engineers and scientists easily accommodating academic excellence within cancerous philosophies appended to Muslim faith. They share deviate human characteristics similar to those enabling Himmler to officer S.S. units with accomplished professionals for the Holocaust, and slaughter of Slavs, Jews and Soviets during Barbarossa.
For this coming test, Obama’s foreign policy centerpiece involves commitment to talks without preconditions. Carter’s reasoning with the Ayatollah Khomeini, as men of faith, concerning the Iranian hostages illustrated this approach. Adversarial countries, now unconstrained by Western proprieties, invest traditional diplomacy with Oriental/Asian principles threatening or executing violence.
Adversaries like Assad, Ahmadinejad, and terrorist surrogates would manage Obama’s open negotiations into submissive posturing; compromising positions allies would otherwise support. Patient dissembling would exact concessions in exchange for photo ops and sound bites coordinated to U.S. news and election cycles.
Unless offered compelling enticements, or confronting unanswerable force, their best strategy remains endless mendacity and violence, while we debate national interests into ever-narrower parameters making allied support ever more conditional. The last Iranian nuclear weapons NIE initiated such self-destructive debate drawing Persian Gulf countries closer to Iran.
Effective war diplomacy against emerging threats will be methodical, covert, multi-faceted, and predictably lethal. Opponents we face initiate and respond to diplomacy residing on a continuum including war. Talks, conferences and economic measures serve as war without bloodshed; war and terrorism serve as diplomacy with bloodshed. Intelligence, propaganda, and espionage invigorate all options.
We cannot afford administrations finding war a bewildering, tragic, accidental consequence of shattering attacks, when failed diplomacy descends into appeasement. A world unrepentant before Western diplomatic nuances requires leaders who work problems in Oriental/Asian terms to retain allies against the intimidation, and bestiality of terrorism. If force must discredit an opponent, deliberate battle must first be prepared by measures consistently cultivating internal and international isolation.
John McCain understands primary homeland defense against global terrorism demands a strong forward-deployed military. His war diplomacy promotes counterinsurgency tactics enabling countries to defeat terrorists, promote moderate constituencies, and create the social and economic infrastructure extinguishing chaos.
Sustaining initiatives of African, Oriental and Asian countries brings Global War On Terror (GWOT) victory by frustrating plans, breaking alliances and fracturing organizations of Islamic fundamentalist jihadists. Severing terror organizations into ever less effective units, that possess neither cities, nor countries nor armies, means bin Laden and successor sociopaths forfeit credibility and power. These itinerant prophets then live out unnaturally shortened lives as pariahs, and no longer attract acolytes embracing self-immolation. Rogue states find an effective weapon for regional domination impotent, and their power jeopardized.
Posted by: Nolan Nelson | Nov 3, 2008 7:56:29 PM
Let he who is without gaffes throw the first stone...
Posted by: cincinattus | Nov 3, 2008 7:57:23 PM
incidentally, ( to be clear)
gaffe |gaf|
noun
an unintentional act or remark causing embarrassment to its originator; a blunder ,mistake, error, slip, faux pas, indiscretion, impropriety, miscalculation, gaucherie, solecism; slip-up, howler, boo-boo, fluff, flub, blooper, goof
NOT, however a mistake, error,falsehood,lie, 'misspeak (a Bushism), cover-up, deception, partial truth,"spin", or intentional misdirection.
Posted by: cincinnatus | Nov 3, 2008 8:03:56 PM
It's a shame that we won't have Joe "J-O-B-S" Biden to kick around after tomorrow.
I'm going to miss that dufus.
Posted by: Barney Frank | Nov 3, 2008 8:06:02 PM
I really like Joe Biden, and I have no clue why. He just comes off as that Joe six-pack that the Republican party keeps talking about. The man has never forgotten his roots in 30+ years in the Senate. He is easily the most qualified of the 4 to run this country which will benefit Obama in his decision-making. He controlled the VP debate answering every question (although not all of them with complete accuracy) and came off as a pragmatic intellectual. I can't see what Palin brings in PAST Election Day - for one, she supports Cheney's interpretation of the role of VP (as part of the legislative branch which is explicitly forbidden in the Constitution) and honestly knows next to nothing of the best interests for this country in domestic and foreign affairs (not to mention the many other fronts she can be criticized on such as the corruption scandals surrounding her and coming off as unintelligible).
I respect McCain, like Obama, feel for Biden, and just cringe at Palin.
Posted by: a | Nov 3, 2008 8:09:21 PM
We all make mistakes no one is perfect only God
Posted by: Rose Szymanski | Nov 3, 2008 8:11:44 PM
Joe Biden is a walking, talking cartoon. FDR-TV-Duh! and that's just one. He's been wrong on every foreign policy issue. What Joe Biden is is what the Anointed One has been campaigning on--CHANGE IN WASHINGTON. Joe Biden is a dye in the wool politician who has been feeding at the government trough for too many years. Sarah Palin makes him look like a damned fool and if it weren't for the cesspool media it would be evident to even a Liberal.
Posted by: michael loehrer | Nov 3, 2008 8:22:58 PM
We all make mistakes no one is perfect only God
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Even she isn't.. look at some of the low life GOP scum that have been posting around here.
Posted by: will | Nov 3, 2008 8:24:06 PM
Joe Biden is a stream of consciousness kind of guy when he talks, in case any of you out there read James Joyce. I find it interesting and authentic, just like Joe! Obama made a great VP choice!
Go Joe!
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Nov 3, 2008 8:36:38 PM
Nolan Nelson,
Why don't you use the conclusion of Joe's statement about Barack - that he will be tested and found to have steel in his spine? Why do you exploit only the first part of the statement?
Furthermore, at about the same time, veteran Pentagon consultant, Michael Bayer said that the next president, WHOEVER HE IS, will likely be tested in the first 270 days with a crisis.
This will be the first wartime transfer of Pentagon political authority in 40 years and the military will be on high alert.
The key goal is to fill the first three tiers of civilian posts requiring Senate confirmation in the first 30 days.
Posted by: Donna Hughes | Nov 3, 2008 8:46:14 PM
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