Did you know the newly elected President Obama calls the Defense of Marriage Act an "abhorrent" law which he wants to repeal as soon as he can?

Asians and Caucasians voted (majority) no on 8, but it is the Black community that pushed the Rainbow Coalition on us...until that fight was for someone else that is.....the fact is that blacks overwhelmingly, followed by hispanics, for proposition 8. I thhink anyone, regardless of color or creed should be ashamed of themselves for voteing to tak away rights from a grup of people, however black people should have a little sensitivity, don't yu think?

hmmmm....... The 49% of white voters didn't Count? The Hispanic Voters didn't count? The Asian voters didn't count?

My guess would ber that the public in general are against gay marriage. That is what we used to say, but that was before there were Black, Hispanic and Asian Americans though wasn't it.

I am sick of these kinds of dialog! Why don't you folks in the press try and grow up?

Thinking - every vote counts, I am ashamed of all people, regardless of color, who voted yes on 8.

Marlene, you are right, God love you. I am sorry, I am angry and I am making a point. I know many balck people in California who voted no on 8. Many who I am proud to call my friends, many who know me and know that my 10 year committed relationship is as worthy, if not more so, than many heterosexual couples

Why are blacks so defensive about owning civil rights? Discrimination is discrimination. Rights are rights. We may not have been bought and sold, but we have been persecuted and forced into hiding.

To California gay/lesbians: this is your chance to do exactly what Obama talked about in his speech. Get out there and do what you need to do to make prop 8 work for you. Don't just sit back and blame an entire race of people for Prop 8s failure.

The right-wing oppression squad was defeated on Nov 4 and their influence diminished so go after what you want.

I totally agree with stopping the comparison with those who were slaves and had NO rights. It is insulting and offensive to say that this is the same.
Gays continue to enjoy every right, protection, and benefits of married spouses. Prop 8 DID NOT change that. So quit whining that prop 8 "took away rights" because it did NOT. The very group that whines about tolerance shows hatred toward the Mormons.
Again, marrige is a man and woman.....come up with your own word and stop whining.

Marlene, we have been protesting every day since the election, lawsuits have been filed, we will not sit in the back of the bus, we will not drink at a different fountain and we will not be forced to live without marriage. There are 36,000 Californian Gay people who are married... we shall overcome

Here, here, chipo.

I am not here to blame anyone. I do thank everyone for the constructive comments put here to educate those who voted for Prop 8. I believe there was a disconnect within people, between their personal views on the issue and their intellectual understanding of fairness and discrimination.

As with all rights, we may not agree, but we should always uphold each other''s rights to express them as long as it doesn't infringe upon others. As President elect Obama said, he may personally be against gay marriage, but he believes discrimination of any form is wrong.

The prop wasn't asking if you were for gay marriage or if you wanted to enter into a gay marriage. It was simply asking should you deny someone their right to do it.

Marlene, I have been an activist for many years, I marched in the First March on Washington for Gay rights in 1983, again in Sacramento in 1988, I marched in the first gay pride parades. We have come a long way, and as I am sure you know it is a long hard, slow road...thank you

Why do people assume only whites are conservative? If any one here knows any history at all, you should know black folks originally were prodominately Republican.

Oh, so she's one of THOSE!

No one is asking for moral acceptance from the Mormons or any religious institution. We are asking for equal recognition under the law.

And, never say never. We're almost there.

Chip1965 I'm gld to hear you are active in the fight. The No vote on Prop 8 was just a temporary setback. Although you got a "No" on 11/4 if you keep working at it you will eventually get a "Yes". Just keep fighting.

And to those moralists on the board who feel the definition of marriage is their exclusive right, shame on you. Why not try having some empathy? I doubt you would be feeling so superior if you were being discriminated against and told you didn't have the right to marry. Same sex marriage does nothing to diminish hetero marriage. You are being shortsighted and stubborn. Stop using the bible, a book that was written and edited by MAN through the centuries to fit whatever christian agenda of the day that suited them, to discriminate against others.

I say it's too little education.

I for one can support comments about segregation and discrimination when it comes to Africans Americans but the scream of slavery is getting weary on my ears. Slavery is as old as the human race and is still practice in parts of the world today. Here today those who blame their position in life on slavery just are looking for excuses. Thousands of great African Americans had ancestors who were salves.If I went around and indicated that my family lost all of its property in the civil war people and blame my status on such a silly statement people would just think I was not put together right. If we are going to continue to fight the right or wrongs and the reasons for the civil war the country will never come together.

The black community didn't write that proposal and didn't get it on the ballot. Blacks are not out to hurt gays, however the gay community is going to have to earn their support by getting out their message not assuming blacks "understand". I'm black from MI and I was against prop 8, but many blacks I know would have been for it only because the gay point of view has not been presented to them at all. The gay community has benifitted a lot from civil rights legislation the black community has fought for over the last 50 years. They need to stop throwing rocks. We can work this out. The sense blacks owe gays is not going to fly. Communication is whats needed so this doesn't happen again.

Some of us starting warning about this last spring here on these comments lists and in blogs. In the South where cable TV runs a lot of black church programs, the anti-gay stance is very clear.

You wanted a great get even with Bush and this is one of the side effects.

Deal.

Florin, I stated that that person was too closed minded to teach their kids the truth. Prop 8 had nothing to do with schools, nor did it have anything to do with a church. I don't need to indoctrinate any child with anything, including your religion. no one indoctrinated me, I am what I am,.... do you think if you were taught in school about the gay "lifestyle" that you would be gay today???? No- I am sure you would not be. You can't teach someone to be gay. you can teach people to be tolerant... a clas you obviously missed in school, too bad.. the world would be a better place today if we taught tolerence.