It's time The Morman "So called" church loses it's tax exempt status. This is the time that these hypocrites need to pay a financial price. Think of how easily we could get out of this financial mess if we had the taxes that should be going to the government. Since this "church" found it necessary to spend $19,000,000 on a political campaign, they have violated the tax laws. You can't have it both ways, so if they want to play politics I say pay up Mormons! Sincerely Aquatania

Florin you have to be joking. Right??? You cannot teach anyone to be gay just as you cannot teach anyone to be hetero. Why is it that you moralists believe anyone having personal rights infringes on yours? No one is forcing rights on you. Prop 8 is about adults having personal choice to be legally married. No where have I heard anyone wanting to indoctrinate children. This is nothing more than paranoid conjecture and fear.

No, she chose to be ignorant.

LW --

I respect your right to your religion and your beliefs. But the constitution allows for the practice of all religions. If my religion allows for gays to be married, why should your religion trump mine?

LW - I will make this short, you are wrong.... about just about everything. The Bible is a book written by man to teach men how to live. It is a collection of stories, you cant believe that we evolve an dnot believe in evolution, that is selective not logical. Our government is based on seperation of church and state. My point about stoning people is that there are poeple who belive it should be done. they learned that from your bible. This converstation should be about the laws and government of the US, not your bible, you can believe what you want but the right to swing your fist ends at my face.

As for your God, I also believe he teaches that we have free will. If that is the case how can he be "In Control" of everything?

Gotta go - have and live tolerence... Jeffery keep up the good fight

LW. Socrates was tried and convicted by the courts of democratic Athens on a charge of corrupting the youth and disbelieving in the ancestral gods.One of the greatest thinkers killed for some fairy tale fanatic...like you. If you want to condemn people for not believing in your babble you should join Al Quaeda. If discrimination is what your God teaches hopefully he will soon be relegated to the fantasies of other gods like Zeus.

Although it is true that African-Americans played a part in the defeat of gay marriage, the truth is that citizens with morals, ethics, and decency for Gods Law voted that Marriage should be recognized between one man and one women. God created Adam and Eve not Adam and Steve! Abe Lincoln

I don't know about "trumping" religious beliefs, I only know that it doesn't matter what any man-made religion says. The Bible is the ONLY truth and the Bible is the ONLY source of God's Word and that Word is what I live by. I am not condemning on my own. I am stating only what God's Word says. I also believe as the Bible states that there is "There is one body (the body is the church) and one Spirit, just as you were called in one hope of your calling; one Lord, one faith, one baptism; one God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all. Ephesians 4:4-6

It completely disgusting that anyone would compare the civil rights movement to gays not being able to marry! It's like comparing apples and oranges,. I don't recall gays being enslaved or abiding by jim Crow laws! i don't recall them being hanged from a tree or unable to own property! So don't you dare compare the two!!!!!!!!

chipo, your words and actions show the very inntolerance you talk about.
Why do people assume that people against gay marriage are religious nuts? There's plenty of us agnostics out here too.

People have spoken on prop 8 - we'll speak even louder next time.

Marlene: Obviously you can't teach kids to be gay, but you can teach them that gay marriage is normal and the same as straight. Obviously it is not. These discussions lead to sexual talk and that is not up to the government. Kids should be taught love towards every human being no matter what, and compassion. But they also need the truth.

chipo1965. It is your right to think that I am wrong, but I have to disagree. You are correct that the Bible was written down by men, but it was inspired by God, thus His Word. The men wrote what God wanted them to. You are correct, too, that we all do have a free will, but God is still in total control, which is why He allows you to not believe and allows others to believe. However, on judgement day everyone will confess - our free will will cease to exist. Philippians 2:9-11 Therefore God exalted him to the highest place and gave him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bow, in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father.

Dear Marlene at 7:20 PM: Just read your comment and when your right your right. Abe Lincoln

I'm catholic and african american and as you can tell i'm very proud of the people of california for voting for prop 8 cuz marriage is between a man and a women.
for those who like comparing sexual orientation to race that's stupid because one is a choice not nature but the latter is NATURE.
Thanks from a KNIGHT OF COLOMBUS

What's stupid is speaking about something you know nothing about, thankGod4prop8. Being gay is not a choice, being ignorant is.

We all are sinners, myself being first. What is important here is to note that we are to love the sinner but destest the sin. If we at least do not point this out and try to help one another; then do we not each share a part of the responsibility of not leading one another to living a better life? Abe Lincoln

I totally agree with SWT and some people don't know that hispanics, blacks, arabs, and other minorities are very conservative and traditional and to many over us gay marriage is an insult to God and to Humanity because we care about family values.

Wow, this is so unproductive. We need to learn from the grass roots efforts of Barack Obama's campaign that include support from old and young, gay and straight, black, white, asian, hispanic, wealthy and poor, men and owmen. Most people never dreamed he or any other black man could pull together such a coalition. As a white gay man, I'm disturbed at not only the racism that exists in the gay community, but also in strained relationships between gays and lesbians. When we finally recognize that we need to reach out to all people to remove barriers and fears, then maybe we can collectively defeat a Proposition 8.

KDF said that being Gay is not choice well you want to say that it's your genes. ok i'm a geneticist by the way and i know what i'm talkin about.
I don't hate the sinner just the sin.
God bless

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no one is forcing you to marry someone of your own gender. it's not for you, fine. but don't let your problem with it stop others from doing it, especially since it has nothing to do with you. don't worry you won't be invited to the wedding or asked to supply a wedding gift.