Quick Fix: "10 Things I Hate About Christianity"

I have one complaint. Why were the Fred Phelps protesters holding the "God Hates Fags" posters portrayed as typical Christian protesters? I know NO Christians, conservative or liberal, who have anything but frustration and anger for Phelps and gang.

This man is an idiot, or an extemely nieve "christian" and I use that term loosely. In saying that he hates the Bible, or that the Bible is borning,he is saying that he hates, or that he thinks God is boring. It says clearly, "In the beginning was the word,and the word was God,and the word was with God." and also "all scripture is God breathed". How can you hate the scriptures when God himself wrote them!

This guy has got to be the dumpest so called christian in the world.

Why are you giving his media attention?

I get his point and what he's trying to say, but I think his message is skewed. Re: his points about prayer - God's not Santa Clause and I suspect he's referring to that misconception when he says prayer doesn't always work out the way you expect it to. Also, there's nothing Christ-like about holding "God Hates Fags" signs. So why would that be one of the things he hates about Christianity? It should be hate against hate-mongering - which sounds like an oxymoron, come to think of it.

This video , even in its title alone, is offensive. I consider myself a moderate Democrat who fully supports journalistic freedom. But this kind of piece seeks only to disrespect Christian beliefs without any constructive purpose (whether it be academic, intellectual, or otherwise). I am an economic liberal and a social conservative who feels more at home, sometimes, being among the young professionals in New York and in D.C. in liberal places like Busboys and Poets. Nonetheless, I'm tired of the Northeast coast media berating those who have faith when in reality their skepticism exposes their own fear of what they cannot explain: faith.

the writer is.....let me guess, now.....Jewish ???

One time I thought about being a christian. This guy says the truth. The bible is boring. Alot of Christians are truly self righteous. I never got a sign from god. Christians could find inner peace thru Buddhism.

Any hit piece on Christianity will make the news, no matter how poorly constructed or thought out. I am a former Christian but I retain my respect for all forms of religion and believe that no one should be attacked for true spiritual belief. Religions are of man not God thus imperfect. The enlightened path is not "exciting" but also not boring unless a person is so self-absorbed they cannot see beyond their own personal needs and interests.
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That guy has every right to believe and advocate what he does. However, I'm sure even more exist that would say the exact opposite. Whatever I say.

This person is truthful because the bible is full of contradictions and confusions. The biggest lie in the Bible is "God died" and the world /universe survived without his presence.

While this isn't necessarily a reason to hate christianity, how about the fact that the christian religion is based on folklore and mythology. I was raised in the methodist church but once I became an adult and thought about christianity logically I realized that the premise of the religion made no sense and rejected it. I now consider myself to be Agnostic.

One can not know about the Book unless they know the Author.

To be honest, Bible is a junk. It has undergone series of surgeries/revisions over the last 20 centuries and has now turned to be a work of men and not God.
It even failed to clearly explain basic things which all human bengs should understand: "the concept of God"
On thing which always amaze me is the history of crucifixion.

Jesus is God, but when he was put on the cross he cried out saying: "Oh! God Oh! God Why you forsaken me?" He is God and cried out to another God???? This is silly. How many Gods do we have?
It is only those who are involved in bible revisions, re-publications and editing works and making money out of this are defending it.

Parado - Jesus is the SON of God. He is part of the TRINITY. You have God the Father; Jesus, the Son (God in human form) and the Holy Spirit.

There is only one true God.

As to your statement that "only those who are involved in bible revision, re-publications and editing works and making money out of this are defending it"... I'm not involved in any of those and I am defending it. The Bible is historically accurate; it is the Living Word of God; the Word is the witness of God's existence. These are all stated in the Bible.

If you don't believe, that's your prerogative ; God gave you free will and the mind to exercise it, it is a choice. Before you classify the Bible as "junk", you should buy an NIV and read it front to back and then decide what is truth.

God sent His Son to die on the cross for us, because He loves us. There had to be a way for sin to be forgiven to reconcile us with God. God is perfect; because of Satan and the entrance of sin into man, we are not. God hates sin; He cannot tolerate it. Because of this, there had to be a covering for man's sin - Jesus. If you read the Bible and study it and read about the life of Jesus, you will see that God loves us all and wants us to be with Him, forever. He loves all people, from the lowliest criminal to highest person you can think of.

As you read the Word and accept His truth, if you accept Jesus Christ is His Son and died on the Cross for you, ask forgiveness of your sins and dedicate your life to the Lord, you will be given the Holy Spirit into your heart. You will feel the Holy Spirit enter into You. It is a feeling you will never forget.

You will be saved and you will live forever in eternity.

You ended up on this discussion board for a reason. God is talking to you - yes, you. Don't turn Him away. Jesus said "any man who denies Me here will be denied before My Father in Heaven".

Get a Bible and read it. He's talking to you.

LVUN USA
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TRINITY

According to most Christians, Jesus was God-incarnate, full man and full God. Can the finite and the infinite be one? "To be full" God means freedom from finite forms and from helplessness, and to be "full man" means the absence of divinity.
1.To be son is to be less than divine and to be divine is to be no one’s son. How could Jesus have the attributes of sonship and divinity altogether?
2.Christians assert that Jesus claimed to be God when they quote him in John 14:9: "He that has seen me has seen the Father". Didn’t Jesus clearly say that people have never seen God, as it says in John 5:37: "And the father himself which Has sent me, has borne witness of me. You have NEITHER HEARD HIS
VOICE AT ANY TIME NOR SEEN HIS SHAPE"?
3.Christians say that Jesus was God because he was called Son of God, Son of Man, Messiah, and "savior". Ezekiel was addressed in the Bible as Son of Man. Jesus spoke of "the peace makers" as Sons of God. Any person who followed the Will and Plan of God was called SON OF GOD in the Jewish tradition and in their language (Genesis 6:2,4; Exodus 4:22; Psalm 2:7; Romans 8:14). "Messiah" which in Hebrew means "God’s anointed" and not "Christ", and "Cyrus" the person is called "Messiah" or "the anointed". As for "savior", in II KINGS 13:5, other individuals were given that title too without being gods. So where is the proof in these terms that Jesus was God when the word son is not exclusively used for him alone?
4.Christians claim that Jesus acknowledged that he and God were one in the sense of nature when he says in John 10:30 "I and my father are one". Later on in John 17:21-23, Jesus refers to his followers and himself and God as one in five places. So why did they give the previous "one" a different meaning from the other five "ones?
5.Is God three-in-one and one in three simultaneously or one at a time?
6.If God is one and three simultaneously, then none of the three could be the complete God. Granting that such was the case, then when Jesus was on earth, he wasn’t a complete God, nor was the "father in Heaven" a whole God. Doesn’t that contradict what Jesus always said about His God and our God in heaven, his Lord and our Lord ? Does that also mean that there was no complete god then, between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrection?
7.If God is one and three at a time, then who was the God in heaven when Jesus was on earth? Wouldn’t this contradict his many references to a God in Heaven that sent him?
8.If God is three and one at the same time, who was the God in Heaven within three days between the claimed crucifixion and the claimed resurrect ion?
9.Christians say that: "The Father(F) is God, the Son(S) is God, and the Holy Ghost(H) is God, but the Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Ghost, and the Holy Ghost is not the Father". In simple arithmetic and terms therefore, if F = G, S = G, and H = G, then it follows that F = S = H, while the second part of the statement suggests that F ¹ S ¹ H (meaning, "not equal"). Isn’t that a contradiction to the Christian dogma of Trinity in itself ?
10.If Jesus was God, why did he tell the man who called him "good master" not to call him "good" because accordingly, there is none good but his God in Heaven alone?
11.Why do Christians say that God is three-in-one and one in three when Jesus says in Mark 12:29: "The Lord our God is one Lord" in as many places as yet in the Bible?
12.If belief in the Trinity was such a necessary condition for being a Christian, why didn’t Jesus teach and emphasize it to the Christians during his time? How were those followers of Jesus considered Christians without ever hearing the term Trinity? Had the Trinity been the spinal cord of Christianity, Jesus would have emphasized it on many occasions and would have taught and explained it in detail to the people.
13.Christians claim that Jesus was God as they quote in John 1:1 "In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God". This is John speaking and not Jesus. Also, the Greek word for the first occurrence of God is HOTHEOS which means "the God" or "God" with a capital "G", while the Greek word for its second occurrence is "TONTHEOS", which means "a god " or "god" with a small "g". Isn’t this dishonesty and inconsistency on the part of those translating the Greek Bible? ? Isn’t such quotation in John 1:1 recognized by every Christian scholar of the Bible to have been written by a Jew named Philo Alexandria way before Jesus and John?
14.Wasn’t the word "god" or "TONTHEOS" also used to refer to others as well as in II Corinthians 4:4 "(and the Devil is) the god of this world" and in Exodus 7:1 "See , I have made thee (Moses) a god to Pharaoh"?

SALVATION:

Christians say that "GOD LOST His only son to save us". To whom did God lose Jesus if he owns the whole universe?
15. If it was agreeable with God’s Majesty to have sons, He could have created a million sons the like of Jesus. So what is the big clear deal about this only son?
16.Why does the Bible say that Jesus wanted to die on the cross, when the one on the cross was shouting "My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?" according to Matthew 27:45 and Mark 15:33?
17. If God had wanted to save us, couldn’t He have done that without sacrificing Jesus?
18. God is Just, and justice requires that nobody should be punished for the sins of others, nor should some people be saved by punishing other people. Doesn’t the claim that God sacrificed Jesus to save us because He was Just, contradict the definition of justice?
19. People sacrifice things they have to get something they don’t have when they can’t have both. Christians say that "God SACRIFICED His only son to save us". We know that God is Almighty; to whom did He sacrifice Jesus?
20. A real sacrifice is when you can’t get back what you have offered , so what would be the big deal about such a sacrifice if God could recover the same offering? (according to the Christians’ terminology)?
21. If all the Christians are saved through Jesus and are going to Heaven no matter what they do, then the teachings of Jesus are irrelevant and the definition of good and bad are also rendered irrelevant. If this is not so, then do Christians who believe in Jesus yet do not follow his teachings nor repent go to Hell?
22. How can Christians take deeds as irrelevant after becoming one when Jesus says in Matthew 12:36; "But I say unto you that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the Day of Judgment. For by the words thou shalt be justified, and by the words thou shalt be condemned"?
23. Christians say that people go to Heaven ONLY THROUGH JESUS, yet Paul says in 1 CORINTHIANS 7:8-16 that the unbelieving husband is acceptable to God because he is united with his wife and vice versa, and their pagan children are also acceptable to God. So people can go to heaven without believing in Jesus according to this.
24. How come the Bible says that ALL Israel is saved although they don’t believe in Jesus? Doesn’t that contradict the claim in the Bible that the only way to heaven is through Jesus?
25. According to Christians, those who have not been baptized will go to Hell. So even the infants and babies go to Hell if not baptized, since they are born with an inherited original sin. Doesn’t this contradict the definition of justice? Why would God punish people for sins they never committed?

What are you people saying? just because we have spider-man, Bat-man so we should have God-Man?

The following statment of the holy quran can explain your problems:

• "Lo! The likeness of Jesus with Allah is as the likeness of Adam. He created him of dust, then said unto him: Be, and he was." Al-Qur’an 3:59.

•"Say: O People of the Scripture! Come to an agreement between us and you: that we shall worship none but Allah, and that we shall ascribe no partner unto Him, and that none of us shall take others for Lords besides Allah. And if they turn away, then say: Bear witness that we are they who have surrendered (unto him).

"O People of the Scripture! Why will you argue about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were revealed till after him? Have you then no sense?
Abraham was not a Jew, nor yet a Christian; but he was an upright man who had surrendered (to Allah), and he was not of the idolaters.

Lo! Those of mankind who have the best claim to Abraham are those who followed him, and his Prophet and those who believe (with him); and Allah is the Protector of the believers.
A party of the People of the Scripture longs to make you go astray; and they make none to go astray except themselves, but they perceive not.

O People of the Scripture! Why disbelieve you in the revelations of Allah, when you (yourselves) bear witness to their truth?
O People of the Scriptures! Why confound you truth with falsehood and knowingly conceal the Truth? (Al-Qur’an 3: 64-71)

• And whoever seeks a religion other than Islam, it will never be accepted of him and in the hereafter, He will be one of the losers (Al-Qur’an 3:85).

• And because of their saying: We slew the Messiah Jesus, son of Mary, and Allah’s messenger. They slew him not nor crucified him, but it appeared so unto them, and Lo! Those who disagree concerning it are in doubt thereof; they have no knowledge thereof save pursuit of a conjecture; they slew him not for certain:
But Allah took him up unto Himself. Allah was ever Mighty, Wise. (Al-Qur’an 4:157-158).

•O People of the Scripture! Do not exaggerate in your religion nor utter ought concerning Allah save the truth. The Messiah Jesus son of Mary, was only a messenger of Allah, and His word which He conveyed unto Mary, and a spirit from Him, so believe in Allah and His messengers, and say not "Three"! Cease! (it is ) better for you! Allah is only One God. Far is it removed from His transcendent majesty that He should have a son. His is all that is in the heavens and all that is in the earth. And Allah is sufficient as defender.

The Messiah will never scorn to be a slave unto Allah, nor will the favored angels. Whosoever scorns His service and is proud, all such will assemble unto Him.

Then, as for those who believed and did good works, unto them will He give them their wages in full, adding unto them of His bounty; and as for those who were scornful and proud, then He will punish with a painful doom." (Al-Qur’an 4:171-173).

•"And with those who say Lo! We are Christians, We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefore We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.

O People of the Scripture! Now has our messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which you used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. Now has come unto light from Allah and plain scripture:
Whereby Allah guides him who seeks His good pleasure unto paths of peace, He brings them out of darkness unto light by His decree, and guides them unto a Straight Path.
They indeed have disbelieved who say: Lo! Allah is the messiah, son of Mary. Say: Who then can do aught against Allah if he had willed to destroy the Messiah son of Mary, and his mother and everyone on earth? Allah’s is the sovereignty of the heavens and the earth and all that is between them. He creates what he wills. And Allah is able to do all things. (Al-Qur’an 5:14:17).

•"They surely disbelieve who say; Lo! Allah is the Messiah, son of Mary. The Messiah (himself) said: O children if Israel, worship Allah, my Lord and you Lord. Lo! Whosoever ascribes partners unto Allah, for him Allah has forbidden Paradise. His abode is the Fire. For evildoers ,there will be no helpers.

The guy should realize that he is a tad too old to believe in invisible, winged superdaddies in the clouds.

Parado -

God is supernatural. He can be anything he wants to be. He is perfect.

God does not say "use your human mind to try to figure out a supernatural being". Our human mind cannot comprehend all that is said in Scripture (as you are attempting, nit-picking every single sentence). That is why we are told to have FAITH.

1 - you're debating semantics. God is divine; He is infinite, whether in human form or godly form. period.
2 - Jesus was speaking to that particular group, not entire mankind on earth at that time. They had not seen God, did not know God.
3 - "Christians say that Jesus was God..." It is not christians who say, it is the BIBLE who says. I do not care who was called "son". Jesus spoke truth, God speaks truth and the Holy Spirit speaks truth. This I believe. I call my son, my "son". Does this mean I am calling him God? NO!
4 - different situations. Do you speak all the same things to people when you are in conversation with them? No. I bet if 5 different people asked you the exact same question at 5 different points in time you would say 5 different things (w/the same idea). You would not repeat verbatim what you said the first time.
5 - God is supernatural. He can be 3 in 1, 1 in 3, whatever He needs/wants to be at the time. The Holy Spirit is given to all believers in Christ. Are you now going to say that it's impossible for the Holy Spirit to dwell in the hearts of millions of believers, all at the same time?
6 - says you. I believe that the Father, Jesus and the Holy Spirit is complete, was complete. period.
7 - No, it would not contradict - to me. refer to # 6.
8 - same as 6 and 7.
9 - you cannot use human terms or the human brain to apply logic to this. doesn't work that way. God is the Father, Jesus is the Son (God) in human form and the Holy Spirit is the Spirit which is given to us that dwells within us at the moment of our admitting we are sinful creatures and turning our life over to Christ.
10 - what scripture is this? I don't know it and would like to study it.
11- you need to apply verses around specific verses you are quoting. This particular part in Scripture is about directing unbelievers to focus on God Himself, not other things. People were sinful and did like to worship idols. God wanted them to know Him.
12 - Jesus says "No one comes to the Father, but through Me". You must believe in your heart that God sent His Son to die on the cross for your sins. That's good enough for me. If you believe in Jesus, why is it such a stretch to believe in the Holy Spirit?
13 - I don't know who wrote it. If there is anything in the Bible which is "dishonest", to use your word, then at Judgement, the writer or translator will be held accountable. The person reading it or believing it will not be held accountable for a misinterpretation, if, in fact, there are any - which I do not believe there are.
14 - in human understanding, yes, it is written that Satan is the ruler of this world. And yes, in human understanding, it was written about Moses being a "god" to Pharaoh. God hardened Pharaoh's heart so that he would not listen to Moses so that the Egyptian people would be punished for the atrocities against God's chosen people. By way of the "prophecies" Moses told Pharaoh, God raised Moses up in Pharaoh's human eyes to be a "god" so that Pharaoh would release God's people - "throw them out" of Egypt. This does NOT mean that God seriously raised Moses up to be a "god" on God's holy level - Pharaoh already was under the influence of evil, so this is what Pharaoh perceived in his own human mind.

I've never heard it said "God LOST his only Son to save us". I don't know where or whom you have heard say this. I only understand that God sent His son (yes, God's spirit, in human form) to die on the cross for our sin - because it required a final, holy blood sacrifice - instead of the blood sacrifice of animals.

15 - I would think that God did not "create" millions of sons because He only wanted ONE way for sinners to be reconciled to Him - not millions of "Gods" to worship. If you were giving someone directions, would you tell them a million different ways to do it, or would you give them one way - the one that makes sense? The simplest? That only involves ONE thing - FAITH.
16 - I have never read it or heard it said that Jesus "wanted" to die on the Cross. Jesus knew what was required and He did it. I'm sure you've read in 2 Corinthians 12:9 "My grace is sufficient for you, for power is perfected in weakness". In my human mind, I can believe that Jesus was despondent on the Cross to show that He understands that we (humans) doubt - He experienced every human condition that we do/did; as long as we have FAITH and do as we are directed to do in the Scriptures. This would be an illustration that would be stronger in our mind for having seen it or known it was possible for His Son, who was perfect in every way, to show human weakness as we all do.
17 - No He could not. As I mentioned in the statement above between 14 and 15, the final sacrifice had to be a perfect one, not an animal one.
18 - YOUR human definition of justice may require these things to be "satisfied" in YOUR human mind. God's perfect justice does not require anything but that HIS will be done. Neither you nor I know why things happen. The Bible even says that bad things happen to good people (paraphrasing, here), but He has said that He can turn every situation to our good (our benefit). I have seen it myself in my own life - and others' lives. Bad things happen because of sin in the world - they happen as punishment sometimes, even to good people, and God uses those events to draw us closer to Him, to refine our faith and love for Him and to teach us.
19 - God sacrificed His son to die in our place and raised Him up from the dead. He knew that He would resurrect Jesus and Jesus knew it, also. He sacrificed Him to save all of us, so that we might have eternal life with Him.
20 - God recovered the possibility of having US, His children, something that He is not assured of because of sin in the world and humans' weakness and susceptibility to unbelief before Jesus died on the Cross. God also defeated Satan, once and for all, because of Jesus' resurrection - defeat over DEATH for all time; again which was not possible with an animal sacrifice. Why would God resurrect an animal; what would be special about that? But to resurrect His own Son, now that's AWESOME!
21 - This is all irrelevant in your mind, maybe. I do not understand the entire will of God myself. I do know this - if someone commits sin, whether they are a "believer" or not, then it is sin in God's eyes, and that person will be punished. Christians, believers, whatever you want to call them - are not perfect - they are forgiven. If a believer repeatedly commits the same sin, say stealing, over and over again, are they truly repentant? To me, no. To God - maybe...I don't know. It's not for me to say ... that's that "don't judge", thing, remember? Besides, God sees into the heart - man cannot do that.
22 - see # 21.
23 - I do not know. I had never read this until your post, so you have shown me something I don't know. I will have to study and talk to others who are much more knowledgeable about the Bible than I.
24 - Israel has always been and will always be God's chosen people. He promised them they would be. Just as they have had punishments because of their disbelief in the past, they probably will on Judgement Day.
25 - "According to Christians"....why quote people? I have never heard it said by my fellow believers that one MUST be baptized to be saved. NOWHERE in the Bible does it say this is true. In fact, the Bible specifically says that neither circumcision, baptism, deeds or good works will save man - only belief in Jesus' life, death and resurrection on the cross will save man .... in other words, faith.

Walk by FAITH, not by sight. Logic cannot be used to "understand" God, it doesn't work that way. Our brains (logic, thought, etc) cannot comprehend this.

The bible is not one book, it is a collection of books, mostly unrelated, written and edited by many different humans who were also the ones to claim, with no proof, that their words came from God. There have been thousands of other people who don't have books in the Bible who have claimed that God has spoken through them. I think they may all be equally credible.

LUVNUSA,
Do not just defend blindly, I agree with what Prado says.