JC,

It was Bush Daddy that set Saddam up in business in Iraq in the first place. Did you know this?
Saddam was CIA. Bush is, was, and always will be CIA.

All Saddam got was fired.

If you want to know why our country fights wars read the book, "War is a Racket" By Marine Corps General Smedley Butler. The people of this nation have been dumbed down, wake up Americans, Wake up. You are losing your country right before your very eyes and do nothing about it. Doesn't it even register with you that no matter who is elected president everything stays the same,the continuing agenda to make the USA into a third world nation. Think about it. We need to rally behind a candidate that stands for the American people, not a candidate that is beholding to the man behind the curtain. This man, or men pull all of the elite's chosen candidates strings. RON PAUL IS THE RIGHT MAN FOR THE JOB. HE IS NOT CONTROLLED BY The ELITE. I hope he get's into the White House along with the right people in congress that will work with him to turn this nation around. This nation has been dumbed into a war mentality. This administration uses fear as a weapon to keep the American citizen dumbed down. We have now been the agresssor nation in an unjust war. This is against our constitution. You say the WAR Powers Act gives the President the power to go to war. On what grounds did we go to war with Iraq? Flase information feed to the American people so that the oil robbers could get richer, and richer. What is Iraq's main export? Do I really have to answer this for you? Never in the history of man has so many good intelligent people been made a fool of as has been the case since the 2000 election. It is time we as Americans rise up and do something about the the suffering caused by our extreme right wing leaders whose only loyality is to the oil barrons. We had better make the changes ourselves, remember what happened to Nazi Germany, Is there a nation that might challenge the tyranny our country has imposed on the people of Iraq, and for what people, the oil barrons. Think people there is a prize to be won for a nation that would challenge, a large prize?
I am an American that has seen this country slowly erode since the death of President Kennedy. I am an American that is mad as hell about the injustices our nation has brought upon other nations of this world. We used to be the big brother of the weaker nation, now we are the bully.

i never believe the pentagon

You are right, JC. The US has a lot of potential wars to fight, but we cannot afford to wage 100 wars. Isn't it wiser to select the ones that contribute to our country's self interest first? Either way we our contributing to the common good, right? By strengthening our nation, we become more prosperous and gain the ability to help more distressed nations in the future.

Pacifying the world is a game of chess not checkers, and despite their blunders, you must respect the COLLECTIVE decisions of our world leaders. There is a limited supply of resources the U.N. nations have to juggle, and decisions that seem bad to you, are being made by some smart people (not just GWB), who, COLLECTIVELY, see much more than the tip of the iceberg "realities" we are spoon fed by the press. No offense press.

There are dictators all over the world but Saddam became an easy target because Bush` daddy didn`t do the job properly..Saddam hated al-qaeda and since there was no connection between 9/11 and Saddam,evidence was fabricated and now we have stirred the hornets nest..Al-qaeda came to Iraq only after the unprovoked invasion...How come we are not invading coutries like Iran,Venezuela,Syria and North Korea..I think those people need to be freed from oppression too..If America wants to live peacefully then we should not go around stirring up problems..The mid East has never had peace for centuries why would they want it now..

You Americans are too naive..Just to spite the Bill Clinton you voted for Bush and look at the mess..Now to spite another Hillary Clinton you are supporting Obama..Well lets see,4yrs from now you will realize how Obama with absolutely no experience has ruined the country even further and then what?Let me guess complain even further...This is the real deal folks and you cannot afford to train anyone on the job anymore..Also sweet words don`t do much for people who are struggling just to survive...Think about it..

A lot of opinions here, some on the left, some on the right, and everywhere in between. No matter where you fall, please take a moment to ask yourself these questions.

Was Saddam a bad guy? (Author says Yes)
Did bringing him down help the common good and save lives? (Author says Yes)
Are the men and women overseas helping the common good every day and saving lives? (Author says Yes)
Does this war help to increase our national security? (Author says Yes)
Are there agendas other than helping the common good at play in the war over Iraq? (Author says Yes)
Does the Haliburton scandal make you feel cheated? (Author says Yes)
Is Iraq the only spot in the world that needs our help? (Author says No)
Isn't helping the common good and saving lives better than not? (Author says Yes)

My point is whether you lean to the right or the left, war is not always a bad thing if fought for the right reasons, and despite any hidden agendas and financial blunders, it is good to help people learn to help themselves, and helps the US become a better nation and role model to the rest of the world. We would be pretty selfish to sit up on our ivory tower and watch millions of people die around us. Nevertheless, it is terrible to squander money needlessly (Haliburton) and not share the support with areas that really need it (Africa). I praise the U.N. military, and each individual that works hard to make a better world, I only hope the next administration learns to manage them a little more effectively. There are still a lot of bad apples that need to be stopped from spoiling the bunch before we will be ready for a world without war.

Evidence, schmidence. Who needs it when you have Dela Force? These narco-terrorists are exploting the gaps in our society- they flit about in the shadows. If you try to apply civilian rules of law to these fronts, you will lose in a big way (big bang as in a nuc).

THE DAILY EXCESSIVE LOSS OF LIVES IN THE MIDDLE EAST INCLUDING BOTH THE VICTIMS AND THE NON VICTIMS IN LARGE NUMBERS( DOZENS )
IT IS REALLY VERY ALARMING, WHICH SHOULD BE THOUGHT ABOUT AND IT IS A VERY BIG CONCERN TO THE WHOLE WORLD , SO LET EACH AND EVERYBODY IN THIS WORLD SIT BACK AND INTERNALISE ON THIS ISSUE OTHERWISE.......

This summary overlooks the fact that Saddam had demonstrable ties to Al Qaeda aligned groups. For example, he worked with Abu Sayyaf in attacks on US interests in the Philippines, and he also supported Ansar al-Islam in attacks against the Kurds.

The headline should read that he had no direct links with Osama Bin Laden, that would be accurate.

"JACK" perfectly sums up the war-supporters' logic. He thinks just because links "can't be proven," the war is still justified because we should "believe" Saddam was associated with bin Laden. Because, you know, that just has to be the truth. Because JACK can FEEL IT.

How touching. Maybe God spoke to JACK.

Going to war is not something we do based upon gut instincts and feelings. We go to war based upon cold, hard facts. And it wasn't all that long ago that we went to war when we faced an immediate and verifiable threat. This whole "hit them before they hit us (because we "feel" they're dangerous)" thing is a complete reversal of American war philosophy which had existed since the founding of our country.

If you're going to go through life basing important political decisions on "feelings," at least be honest enough to call yourself what you really are, JACK: one of those liberals you probably hate so much.

A big FAT LIE. JUST BECAUSE IT CANNOT BE PROVEN I FULLY BELIEVE SUDAM HAD CONNECTIONS TO BIN LADEN. IF YOU DON'T BELIEVE THIS ON SOME LEVEL YOU ARE AS NAIVE OR AS STUPID AS THE MEDIA WANTS YOU TO BE.

Oops, we attacked the wrong country. Sorrrrrrrryyyyyyy! Can someone please put the toothpaste back in the tube?

Would anyone here like to participate in taking our government back by constitutional means? We can start by making politics our national passtime instead of baseball, football, and basketball. Then, we can proceed to pass constitutional amendments in each state to be ratified by the house and senate in regards to what the populace of this country wants:
1. publicly financed campaigns---NO corporate money allowed
2. ONE PERSON ONE VOTE---NO ELECTORAL COLLEGE---NO CAUCUSES TO ALTER DELEGATES
3. elections held on Saturday to ease
the "burden"(as so many think it is) of
voting
4. limit campaign season to something
reasonable instead of four years of
unmitigated idiocy
5. change in primaries to at least
give a modicum of order
6. break up the media moguls and their
control of this country. We do NOT get
news, we get what a few men want us to
hear. There is one thing that matters
to me---the TRUTH. And I would really
appreciate it if it came from media.

There are a few other things I'd like
to see----just to even the "playing
field"-----and one must admit that the
field has been like the downside slope
of the Rockies, especially in the last
few years:

1. voice print analysis of any candi-
date running across TV screen as he/she
lies their way through the campaign
season. If one lies and is elected as
George did about religion(I'm a middle-
of-the-road kind of Christian and SO
many other things---not including the
biggie about Iraq after his election---
grounds for immediate impeachment---and
get it DONE.
2. NO RAISE for congress without
public approval
3. No presidential crony pardons
4. Reinvestment required of companies
operating in U.S.----along with "if you make money here, you pay taxes here"---
no moving companies(like oil companies that have repeatedly morphed from one to another to off-shore and pay no taxes on profits reaped on oil pumped
from this country)
5. All executive papers to be immediately available----if not, impeachment immediately
6. End empire building. Close bases
in other countries. End deposing and
killing of other countries duely
elected leaders---after all, every
government we've set up has failed.
7. End military complex setting up of
wars in the future---ex. Vietnam, Iraq,
Columbia---or did anyone notice that as
one war ends, another is just opening
up----but then Columbia has been a full
fledged operation for years.
8. We are not the police force of the
for the world---and, generally, when we
present ourselves as such, there is an
ulterior motive slinking alongside.

And finally, I'd like to see a cabinet level office for PEACE. I find such a dichotomy in this country(supposedly Christian) that when one simply says the word "PEACE", they are dismissed with an immediate expelling of breath and, "You know peace will never be!!!!!!!!!!" Well, I know it will never be as long as people believe it will never be. But, they're going to have to get used to it, because I am going to continue to say it---PEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE, PEACE!!!!!!!!!!
I cannot fathom people who CLAIM to be Christians, go to church every Sunday, sanction a "JUST" war, send others' children to die, and can't connect that Jesus hung on a cross---at the only time I would have considered there might have been a "just war"---and said, "Father, forgive them for they know not what they do"---and died.

I am so tired of lies---and greed---and people getting up in the morning with the single intent of their day being to harm others.

Will we never learn that every thought, action, bent, intention, motivation effects everything on this earth---and that hurting others only hurts, ultimately, not only everyone else but ourselves.

We need a change in consciousness. Perhaps 2012 will do it. People can learn----before the 80's not much was ever done about rape, child abuse, etc.------now, it's prison for the guilty.
A change in the consciousness of the
majority of the people, a realization,
a "dawning", the light bulb coming on--
that's what needs to happen now. The
American Public needs to awaken. This great sleeping beast, this irreverant but gentle giant must awaken and take the helm to guide the destiny of its' country. I have faith in the people of
the United States of America. We may not be perfect, but I believe with my
heart and to the depths of my soul that we are a good an loving people. Wake up, my friends! It's time to come out of hibernation and go hunting for that which is ours----and it's the control of our country!

Well... apparently having an affair with a consenting adult and saying you didn’t is impeachable, but misleading a nation, thousands dead, and a trillion dollar debt plus much more to come, is not. Get with the Republican program. Sex is bad (but lewd conduct is OK– Senator Larry Craig, Republican), and death, lies and/or incompetence and over spending (to the point we are paying 200B/year in interest) are the American “moral majority” way.

I'll say it before and I'll say it again - Bush deliverately created the impression there was evidence of WMDs and a connection between Iraq and Al Qaeda. Not only is this totally untrue, but Bush knew it was untrue when he was misleading us into supporting his war - that's been proven. If lying to lead the country into a disastrous and unnecessary war isn't an impeachable offense, then what is?

This is NEWS????

I knew it! We should never have gotten ourselves into this mess. Now a lot of our young men and women are dead. And for what, Mr. President? At first I didn't want you impeached, but I'm changing my mind! Now I wonder how do you sleep. Sharon

Most the "proof" about WMD came from a man who said what he was told to say because he was being tortured. Gee whiz, maybe torture ISN'T a way to get reliable data. Besides being morally wrong, when we we realize it is dangerous for us (too).

Ok, lets try putting this another way. Ron Paul said that we should apply the golden rule "do unto others as you would have them do unto you". Like he said, how would we feel if another country did to us what we do to them? The problem with Bush is that he follows the fool's golden rule "do unto others before the do unto you".

How can you say he had not contact, Bush said he did and we all know Bush never lies, or does he? HMM

Well, Saddam did support terrorist acts against Israel when he offered and provided $25,000 awards to families who provided a suicide bomber in Gaza!

if bush had not lied to everyone we wouldn't be over there to begin with!!!

You folks are idiots. Who gives so much wait to papers written by Iraqi's once close to Saddam, as article above states, or that are prisoners now by US; that were conveniently "found". We are at war with a conglomerate of evil that is fighting us in IRAQ but perhaps would have made ya happier if it was being fought in Lebanon after our barracks blown up, or in NYC streets. Big deal! We still don't know 100 percent what is still underground all over that region including Bin Laden himself......get real.....and we will get him in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Lebanon, NYC, Tulsa, London, France, or where ever he decides to hide out or do his damage..... this is WAR you idiots. No one in AMERICA is to blame for it. Thank God we had a President who would try to do something. You better hope the next President is willing, and not just in this for a popularity stint. geez louise !!! Instead of trying to "run the commander-in-chief out of the country, why don't you take a trip to Iraq and see how long you can keep your head!" They won't bother with the water-boarding....:( SC/USA God bless and keep President Bush.

AHMED CHALABI made the war possible.

GEORGE TENET paid CHALABI to come up with plan to attack IRAK.

TENET gave CHALABI's weather balloon truck info to COLIN POWELL, who made UN to believe these real satellite pictures and back the attack...this was master planned by BUSH and CHENEY to make billion $ deal with Halliburton, based now in United Arab Emirates which is their new HOME country.

Wikipedia says about CHALABI:
In the lead-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, under his guidance the INC provided a major portion of the information on which U.S. Intelligence based its condemnation of Saddam Hussein, including reports of weapons of mass destruction and alleged ties to al-Qaeda. Nearly all, if not all, of this information has turned out to be false.

New Yorker - Hillary is good? Huh? Really?

Somehow the majority here believes we went into the Iraqi war in order to catch Saddam or to free the Iraqi people or seize their oil or to neutralize the bloody 9/11 terrorists' network or whatever. Did it ever occur to you that it was just the best excuse to start a war without end? I mean, it is said that this war costs some 2 billion dollars per month -- where do you think this money goes? Ever heard of the military-industrial complex? Prez Eisenhower said it during his farewell speech, that the rise of the m-i complex poses the greatest threat to the American society. This war is just the most lucrative and most elaborate scheme to put tax money into the pockets of New World Order architects and financiers. Wars are about power and wealth, nothing else.

So this is news? It's no secret that Sadamm feared Al-Queda influence as much as everybody else. I'll say ome thing for Saddam, as brutal and harsh as he was, there was no terrorism in Iraq when he ruled.

I don't care what people say about Hillary. I'm still voting for Hillary because Hillary is good.

Not one reason used by them to enter Iraq was true. Not one! Shouldn't they have to answer for something? How much oil stock do they possess?

How many have been killed? What's the cost? Who have been benefited? Who should take the responsibility? How could be so many have died for no reason?

risen - I DO blame them. I blame everyone who voted for this stupid wasteful war! But it WAS Bush and Company who were banging the war drums. Bush was the leader in this and therefore should get the lion's share of the blame.

You people really suprise me, well no you don't, since George W is "guilty of Lying" then so is Hillary, Bill, John Kerry, Ted Kennedy, and all the people in the DNC who said that Saddam was in league with terrorists.

HE WAS KEEPING THE PRICE OF OIL DOWN !

I think the only reason Bush and company still have anyone who believes their BS is because of talk radio. The 24/7 hate filled rants of Rush and the other conservative talk radio that goes on 24/7 on 90% of all the radios in the country. Can you say propaganda?

What is sad is that after numerous studies that have all reached the same conclusion, a substantial minority of Americans still think there is a connection. They unfortunately have been drinking the same Koolaid as the Shrub and Chain-Gang.

How much did this study cost? How many studies are we gonna do on what we already know?

The Bush administration knew that and ties between Saddam and Al Queda were tenuous, at best. More disturbing are the ties between the oil companies and the Bush administration. In 2006, Bush tried to convince the world that this war was not about oil. Yet in 2007 the new Iraqi government's draft on oil policy, although it nationalized oil resources, was forced to include a profit-sharing agreement with BP, Shell,
Exxon, and other major oil players.
This profit-sharing will continue for 3o
years. Economic terrorism at its best!

The Republicans are STILL trying to blame Clinton for what they did.

They said Clinton as "OBSESSED" with terrorism and wouldn't give him any support to stop it.

They also forced him to CUT AND RUN from Somalia because a few soldiers were killed.

Now they want us to stay forever and spend trillions more dollars in their hellhole of Iraq, where hundreds of thousands of innocent Iraqis have been killed or become refugees.

But we had to invade Iraq otherwise they would have invaded the US? That's the typical Bush supporters mindset. As Bush is ruining our country his chicken little supporters have their heads in the sand. Sadam kept Iraq stable,Iran was kept in check,and there were "NO" terrorists in Iraq. Sadam was big on the bs.Bush supporters are the dumbest Americans of all time,to dumb to realize that Bush has played them like a fiddle. I have no doubt Bush supporters check under their beds every night for the Boggeyman.

Bush........what a complete idiot! he is getting our soldiers killed for something that he wasn't even right about. He is just too stupid and proud to accept what he did as stupid. the fact that we have lost almost 4,000 soldiers is ridiculous! they should not have to play the price for something that Buhsm messed up!

>>But Mr. Bush could have, too. He should have painted a big target on bin Laden the minute he got in office. He only painted the target after 9/11, and then he foolishly decided to go settle a score with Saddam<<

Another falsehood dispelled by the 9/11 Report. It showed, on pages 199-206, that when Bush took office he repudiated Clinton's passivity against Al Qaeda and immediately planed an offensive against Al Qaeda. He said, well before 9/11, “I’m tired of swatting at flies.” The President reportedly also said,“I’m tired of playing defense. I want to play offense. I want to take the fight to the terrorists.”

He had Rice and Cheney head committees that ramped up to do just that. They armed Predators to be offensive strike weapons instead of just recon craft. He tasked Tenet, Clinton's former CIA chief whom Clinton never met with, with organining strike team capabilities against Al Qaeda. But just 7.5 months into Bush's starting term, 9/11 struck first.

HEY SUE T...HOW DO YOU KNOW OBAMA WILL GET US OF IRAQ? HIS 2 FORIEGN ADVISOR QUIT ON HIM AND HE HAS NO CLUE OF ANY FOREIGN AFFAIRS BESIDES BEING RISED IN INDONESIA AND TRAVELING TO KENYA AFTER BEING ELECTED AS A U.S. SENATOR...THIS MAN WILL GET US MORE IN DEEP WATER...

I didn't say Clinton was solely to blame for 9/11. Just that his role immediately proceeding it was over 10 times longer than Bush's. And that his actions are easily linked with negative results we saw on 9/11 and during his term we took mass casulaty terror hits wevery 1-2 years. There is blame on all sides. But mostly on the Jihad who declared the war and prosecutes it against us constantly. Despite Democrat continuing self denial.

If Clinton is solely to blame for 9/11, logic dictates that George Bush, Sr., and Ronald Reagan are solely to blame for the first attack on the World Trade Center. And I don't believe that's the case, do you?

What's clear is that terrorists are sneaky little ######## who can easily pull off unsophisticated attacks--which is exactly what the WTC bombing and the attacks of 9/11 were. By "unsophisticated" I mean not technologically advanced enough to draw attention, and often hard to trace. Almost every terrorist attack is "unsophisticated," especially the ones that occur daily in other countries.

We're never going to stop EVERY SINGLE TERRORIST. We need to get used to that fact and focus on intelligence and covert ops rather than full-scale warfare abroad and a gradual police-state here at home.

Clinton certainly gets a lot of the blame for 9/11. There were massive intelligence failures, and he could have pursued bin Laden much more aggressively. But Mr. Bush could have, too. He should have painted a big target on bin Laden the minute he got in office. He only painted the target after 9/11, and then he foolishly decided to go settle a score with Saddam.

Impeach the war criminal and throw all those who still defend him in prison. Or better yet move to another country. Strip their right to speak and vote for another corrupt criminal again. America needs to progress away from war.
Saddam was just fine where he was. Bush is much worse than him anyway. He lied to take us to war so he can get all that oil for himself.

So Al-Qaida has admitted defeat in Iraq? Then who are we fighting there?

Ben - Ron Paul has some great ideas but I do not agree with a total hands off approach because the republican "rule" with its failed economic policies have lead us into the economic problems we have today as they have always done. Obama is the "increase taxes" dem candidate. Clinton is not - in fact her proposals save money and I believe she will apply the fiscal measures needed to turn things around. McCain is clueless on economics by his own admission and his experience is limited to military and being an Arizona Senator - not broad-based. As an independent, I look at all the candidates equally. Clinton is the left-leaning moderate that fits the bill and has earned the respect and support of many Reps in the Senate including McCain. You are correct that Obama's plans would bankrupt the country but that is not all dems.

>>RufusLeeKing: Those attacks weren't on American soil.<<

I said American shores, ships and embassies. They all were located there. Mass casulaty hits we took every 1-2 years under the Dem surrender party.

>>Oh yeah, RufusLeeKing, we've toppled the Taliban? Then who are those guys we're fighting and losing to in Afghanistan? <<

Losing? You mean replacing their former fortress state of a government with a democracy that lets women and people rise from their former squalor and brutality is a loss? Eliminating their open terror camp hosting was a loss? I'd sure hate to see your and Obama's ideas of a win. Showing other would be terror hosts how they, too can perish, and so getting Khadaffi to surrender all his WMDs out of fear, is a loss?

And you forgot to mention the huge number of Al Qaeda thats not in Afghanistan because they are dead. Like the ones in Iraq. They are so decimated in both places that Al Qaeda itself has admitted defeat there and squabbles over which of their factions caused it.

You and Obama want to give those victories all back ASAP.

gb8898 - Thanks for the most common sense I have heard all morning. Got to sign off and go grab some lunch.

RufusLeeKing: Those attacks weren't on American soil.

Hey steve - I agree with almost everything you have said up to now, but I fall short of blaming Bush for 911. I instead blame the intelligence agencies for not have the synergy in their data mining capabilities to connect the dots of what was going on. The intelligence was there, and I believe if the people who were in charge were smart enough to put it together, 911 could have been prevented.

Oh yeah, RufusLeeKing, we've toppled the Taliban? Then who are those guys we're fighting and losing to in Afghanistan? There's no Al-Qaida there, because they're all in Pakistan and Iraq. You need to keep yourself informed!

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Yep. Thats some quality protection Clinton gave us by kissing up to the Jihad and letting Bin Laden go when offered his head on a platter.
And Clinton was 10 times more able to prevent 9/11 in his 96 months of defense neglect than Bush was in his 7.5 month defense ramp-up.

Ben Straub: Mr. Paul tells the painful truth, which is uncomfortable to almost everyone in Washington. That's why he got my vote, but that's also why the Republicans hate him (they even ran an opponent against him in his congressional district).

He's a reflection of what the party used to represent, what used to make it great--what made me a Republican in the first place. Today's Republicans look at him and realize how far they've drifted from the foundations of the party, and people always strike out at the ones who point out their flaws.

It used to be about ideas. It's all about power now.

Remember that the senior Bush was not successful with his war with Saddam. His son's war with Saddam was a revenge war. Like, I'll do it for you.

RufusLeeKing: From the time of the first WTC bombing, Clinton protected American citizens better than Bush, from foreign terrorist attacks all the way until he left office. Then Bush took over and 9/11 happened! Wow, he really protected us, and he wasn't in office for 1 full year, and now he's made the whole world hate us! Good job Bush!!

DCVoter - I like a lot of what the dems offer. It sounds wonderful. Only problem is that you have to pay for all of this great stuff. Obama's platform will consume the most amount of money to implement. Ron Paul is the only one that will come under budget and reduce the deficit. The republicans borrow and spend. The dems will borrow, tax and spend. If this spending continues, we will destroy ourselves economically unless of course other nations are willing to forgive our debt, much like some do for improverished African countries.

SHOCKING!!! So it has taken 5 years of war in Iraq to figure out that Sadaam should not have been our target. Who was that other guy? Oh yeah...Bin Laden. Whatever happened to that guy?

Impeach Bush!! Thanks red states!

RufusLeeKing: It's not "blaming America." That phrase is really getting extremely old. It's time to retire it. All it says is, "I listen to Rush and Hannity and cannot form my own thoughts."

I've been a Republican my entire life. I voted for Mr. Bush the first time (fool me once...). When Republicans point out how the government fails in almost every single thing it meddles in here at home, they're considered good Republicans. When Republicans point out how the government is just as likely to fail in foreign policy, we're called "blame America firsters" or "libs."

Dude, if you think the GOVERNMENT doesn't make mistakes in foreign policy, YOU'RE A BIG OL' LIBERAL. The government's inherent ability to mismanage everything in this country also extends overseas. And those mistakes have consequences--it's cause and effect. Those actions gives MOTIVE to people to retaliate against us.

Ultimately, terrorists alone are responsible for their actions. But our government's stupid foreign policy, meddling in places all over the world, is the greatest recruitment tool al-Qaeda has ever known.

By the way, the government is also trying to get Iraq to pass an oil law that would give the big western oil companies 30-year contracts to extract Iraq's oil. It would be the first large-scale operation of foreign oil companies in Iraq since Iraq's oil industry was nationalised back in 1972. Hmmm...

The war on terror hosts that Bush articulated the day after 9/11 has been a brilliant success, from both security and economic standpoints. We took down Saddam, toppled the Taliban and scared Khadaffi into surrendering his entire WMD arsenal, the largest in the developing world.

For a real failure, look at the Clinton administration. It was 10 times more responsible or 9/11 than Bush, after 96 months in office to Bush's 7.5 pre-9/11. They knew of Bin Ladens nuke threats and of his 9/11 type plan called Operation Bojinka. Yet they let him go free, rewarded Jihadis like Arafat for terror, put up the Gorleick Wall against our defense, treated the WTC I bombing like a civilian criminal matter, ignored other terror hits, and so had a mass casualty terror hit on our shores or ships or embassies every 1-2 years. Then after 9/11 resulted, our economy was in tatters. Now THAT was an obscenely expensive inattendance to our stability and security.

Whoops! Sorry...

Can someone name ONE single thing that this administration has done right? Even their new Daylight Savings plan didn't work!

At this point I don't care if it's a Republican or Democrat who wins, so long as they're better than this moron

Yes the dems have a better plan to secure the borders (along with some of the brave republicans) - bring troops home, rebuild the infrastructure, limit foreign invesments into the infrastructure, secure the ports, use technology to secure the borders, implement comprehensive immigration reform, reduce the hatred of Americans by becoming a helping hand again, return to economic prosperity that translates into economic prosperity around the world, and use a strong military as a defensive force instead of an offensive force.

I love these maroons that keep saying "yeah we should vote in a democrat, like they ahve a better plan to do this or that blah blah"

As IF, for one second we have had any leadership or any plans or anything at ALL that has worked come out of this worthless loser presidential administration? gimme a break.
Your voting idea is to keep voting for a completely worthless useless party of hippocrites trying to enrich themselves at our expense that have failed at EVery public policy that has come across them... vs voting for changing those people out for ones from the minority party that have new plans you havent tried yet.
whatever.
Vote democrat if you want to have a life ever.
Vote repub if you want to die or you want your family to die, while you get sent to jail for excercizing your constitutional freedoms, then they take all your property you worked all your life for.

Let's not forget the increased benefits to the Bush and Cheney pockets as well as all their cronies. 60% of all domestically produced oil is sold overseas at OPEC prices - hence they have a vested interest in keeping the Mideast conflicts going. The largest consumer of petroleum products is the US military. Consumption is increased as military activity increases. As supplies dwindle, prices go up - law of supply and demand. Nuff said...

Hey RufusLeeKing, since you believe America can do no wrong with regards to negative interference in the affairs of others, can you at least admit that the war was stupid economically? And don't give me, the "we need to protect ourselves" when our border is wide open.

Maybe Bush will just pull an Obama and say it was a 'Boneheaded mistake'?

Yeah. Oil theft. Without a singl barrel swiped yet. And why did we invade Aghanistan? For the dust?

RufusLeeKing - I finally agree with you. The dems offer nothing but words, and quite frankly the words are the wrong ones. Welfarism should be avoided and done away with when possible in all cases. The welfare given to illegals is one of the main reasons illegals come to this country. People like free stuff!

And the Dems have a better plan to secure our borders? Like raise the free welfare we give them to come here.

Hey RufusLeeKing, your right the jihad has become linked, and we were the catalyst for this. The real question is how should our treatment of other nations and their people change so that their anger and resentment against us is minimized. As much as I despise the tactics of Hamas and Hezbollah, they are merely reacting against our and Israel's intervention. The constant settlement building and demarcation of Palestinian lands gives Hamas legitimacy. The decades long political and economic oppression of Shiites in Lebanon has given Hezbollah legitimacy. And by the way Hezbollah targeted and killed my wife's cousin in Lebanon so I am no fan of theirs. All sides have greviances and until they are dealt with you can not have any peace period. Our intervention in to Iraq has resulted in hundreds of thousands of Iraqis being killed.

There were a lot of reasons this administration wanted to go into Iraq. To me, their biggest reason may have been oil prices. If we invaded and were successful, we would have a hand-picked leader there to guarantee access to Iraq oil. If we lost and the region stayed unstable, oil production would drop and thus raise prices. Either way, our oil companies stood to make a huge profit. In reality, they have made tremedous profits as have Halliburton, Cheney's old employer with their no-bid contracts on much of what is spent by us in Iraq. Look at how much control the oil companies had over this administration right from day one with their closed-door fabrication of our country's energy policy. None of this is hard to understand if you imagine that the oil company execs are actually in the administration, making decisions that will best benefit their profits, despite what it will do to the rest of the country. A wise man once said money is the root of all evil.

If we do experience an "American Hiroshima," it would likely be because Mr. Bush has done absolutely NOTHING to secure our borders and ports. I'd take all this talk about imminent terrorist attacks a lot more seriously if we didn't leave the damn back door wide open.

RufusLeeKing: No we don't want an American Hiroshima! We could have saved all that money ($2Trillion )wasted on that illegal "War for Iraq Oil" and used it to shore up our defenses here, plus we'ed have about 4000 extra soldiers to help guard against it!

Earth to Earthmuffins: Saddam admitted hosting Hamas, Palestinian Islamic Jihad and Abu Nidal. He is clearly evidenced to have hosted Al Qaeda and Hezbolla. CLUE: The Jihad is ALL Linked. Indirectly. And they promise us American Hiroshimas. And you are OK with that.

Complete surrender to our enemies, feigned ignorance of their own contradictory statements, and endless sabotage of our defense from the Jihad is how far Libs will go, forever, in their adolescent rebellion against the fact that Bush beat them. Simple as that. Treasonous teenaged mentality. They need to be evicted from government.

There you go, there's no weapons of mass destruction and Osama had no link to Al Queda now lets get our young men back home instead of keeping them over there and letting them die for no reason

Everyone should watch the video of GWB singing on abcnews. It will prove just how much disrespect he has for the American people. He thinks everything that has happened is funny. All his buddies think so too. The American people and especially the parents who lost sons and daughters in Iraq don't think it's very funny. It will be a blessing when they are all out of DC.

So Clinton really had WMDs in Iraq, but he destroyed them ALL with his three-day Desert Fox bombing campaign? And he got ALL the ones he said were from Saddam in Bin Ladens multiple Sudan facilities there (even though Clinton shot up only one of many)? Man thats some good shootin. From the Lib hip.