Hate to burst your bubble Frankie, but how are we supposed to get facts when GWB and his administration have proven to be the biggest liars in the world? Don't hold your breath waiting for the truth from this bunch. Don't take my word for it, it has been all over the news for years. Wake up and smell the stench.

SAUDI'S RESPONSIBLE FOR 911 - Saudi's flew the planes, Saudi's finance Al Queda, Bin Laden is a Saudi whose family has close ties to the Bush administration or do the Saudi Royal family - the ones who still finance terrorist organizations around the world. That is the reason for the Iraq War - to distract the american people from the fact that Bush's buddies were responsible for 911 - that and it gives Cheney's buddies at KBR/Halliburton the chance to loot billions of U.S. tax dollars and more billions of Iraqi oil revenues that have been diverted from reconstruction to 'foreign banks' - we were too stupid to notice.

Frankie: I get your point. But at the same time, we can't go to war based on assumptions. We need direct, verifiable evidence of an IMMINENT danger. As in, "If we don't act RIGHT NOW, we're going to suffer enormous consequences to our national security." At least that's what we used to go by.

This whole policy where we go to war based on vague suppositions of "what might happen" is opening up a can of worms. Where does it stop?

Every country on the face of the earth is a potential threat of some form or another, and we can't start attacking every one of them. Especially the ones that are, relatively speaking, much weaker than us (i.e. Iraq and Iran).

If we start down that road, we're ultimately responsible for the chaos such actions cause. And we'll only guarantee ourselves a perpetual state of war, which is seldom fun.

Whoa... Most everyone here is so quick to condemn Bush without knowing all the facts. Do we rally know all the facts yet? No one FOUND WMDs but that still leaves doubt, possibly they existed? Does this mean that we should do nothing about the regime in Iran? What a great deception this could be: politicans afraid to do nothing about Iran because it is not 'politically correct' to discuss let alone act on Iran. Wake up; we live in the most dangerous times in human history, a very complex world with extreme nuclear weapons. If Bush jumped to conclusions, and maybe he did, what I see here is the same: people reacting with out all the facts. And, just maybe Bush and other world leaders had more credible facts than we have, facts that looked very credible at that time. Our world faces a dearth of great leaders. Obama? Hillary? I fear for the future of our country. History will show whether Bush was right or wrong.

And this is supposed to be a surprise? God only knows what the pentagon and this administration have been hiding from us over the past 7+ years. We may be better off not knowing. Things are getting scary enough the way it is.

How the US Congress voted before the Iraq invasion and occupation could be very disconcerting.

Only one person started and could have prevented this disaster.

That is George W evildoer Bush.

Here is the primary summary paragraph from the Executive Summary of the report:

"But the relationship between Iraq and the groups advocating radical pan-Islamic doctrines are much more complex. This study found no “smoking gun” (i.e. direct connection) between Saddam’s Iraq and al Qaeda. Saddam’s interest in, and support for, non-state actors was spread across a variety of revolutionary, liberation, nationalist, and Islamic terrorist organizations. Some in the regime recognized the potential high internal and external costs of maintaining relationships with radical Islamic groups, yet they concluded that in some cases the benefits of association outweighed the risks."

The summary goes on to indicate that the primary targets of such groups were Iraqi citizens in and outside or Iraq, that they did document their relationships with Palestinian terror groups.

So, to protect the McSame bid for a 3rd Bush term in office we are not allowed to see the report...why does this not surprise me?

Even more disturbing is that Bush, et al, are in the process of forging an
agreement with Iraq's prime minister that will allow US troops to stay in Iraq indefinitely without Congressional
approval. Now if this isn't in contravention of the Constitution, I don't know what is. Basically, the oil companies that were behind the invasion will now have US troops as a US tax paid
security force. Saddam had only tenuous ties to Al Queda, but Bush has
definite ties to Exxon, Shell, etc.
Yet this news doesn't even make it to
ABC.

The question that people should ultimately ask themselves is how can a superpower be so fearful of a less powerful country or terrorist group, when it has thousands, upon thosands of nuclear and biological weapons? For any country, or group of terrorists would surely know that they would be utterly annihilated if they were to use weapons of that scale.
Obviously, the war in Iraq was a war of ambition, not a war for the national defense- a "plan" inside of plans! What base desires under the pretension of intellect? But isn't competition itself life's base mode of survival and progress, even for "civilized" Man, and at this point in time, with no forseeable threat of transcendence?

all of the news people at all networks had better not let this story get away.dont be a bunch of ####### and let the people in the whitehouse rule this to.get a grip get some backbone and do your job for the american people!

Mark E.

Reading comprehension skills. I said reports.

1) The CIA declassified a report in 2006 that found no evidence of Al-Qaeda in Iraq before the war. But as usual righties refused to believe it and instead kept quoting Newsbusters.org as a reliable source

2) The executive study of this report is already available - no security clearance needed - just the ability to click on the link provided. In the report it clearly states: "This study found no smoking gun (i.e., direct connection) between Saddam's Iraq and al Qaeda."

So perhaps you should have read the executive summary of the report yourself.

Taken from the long historical viewpoint:

Bush was the lair while Saddam was telling the truth:
• There were NO WMDs. None.
• There were NO links between Saddam & al Qaeda. None.
• Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. Zip.

Remember Bush constantly stating: "Saddam murdered his own people!"

Well now Bush has murdered over a MILLION Iraqis.

So in the history books of the future, Bush will be seen as an even lower scumbag than Saddam. And rightfully so. QUITE a feat!

A coworker of mine actually told me that he thinks we invaded Iraq because of 9/11...somehow he still thinks Iraq had something to do with it. Despite reports like these and stories like these....

Why bother? Bush has already admitted publicly that there was no link between Iraq and the boogey man. See PBS's "Buying the War" for reference.

thanks for the info bullwinkljmooz i have got a cd coming. the impeachment of bush and cheney should start [NOW] WITH OVER 4000 OF OUR PEOPLE KILLED.plus all that have been wounded give me a BREAK bill clinton was wrong for what he did but that is nothing to what these men have done to our country! and the people that have lost there loved ones.bush and cheney are the most hated people in this country wright now.

Sure seems like the righties are in denial. The Pentagon have released reports that:

1) Al-Qaeda was not in Iraq before the U.S. invasion

2) The was no connection between Saddam Hussein and Al-Qaeda.

If the government had proof that Al-Qaeda was in Iraq before the war, and Saddam had contact with Al-Qaeda, the Bush administration, and every Republican politician would be yelling this from the top of their lungs - as it would validate the entire rationale for going to war.

JF Com nor the Pentagon WROTE this report.

The Senate Intel Committee, run by Democrats, WROTE the report that isn't even out yet though you guys somehow know all of its findings. Funny.....

Which site is "right wing"? That links to such right wing cronies as the AP, NYTimes, Washington Post, ABC and others? Real right wing bias there. Keep trying fellas.

Just remember guys. If it can be used to blame Bush - it's true. You don't need to read any further. Keep repeating that mantra.

Mark, The site you reference is an extension of the right-wing philosophy that says anything a liberal believes is wrong. It goes to great lengths to appease the Bush faithful even if the editors have to resort to reporting just half truths. If truth really does matter to you, then you'll have to believe the Pentagon Report. If truth however really doesn't matter to you, then by all means go on ingnoring this truthful evidence that makes you uncomfortable, bury your head in the sand, continue wringing your hands about the "Saddam/AlQaida connection, and be about as productive as a cat chasing its tail.

Mark E.: Yeah. The Pentagon didn't "write" this. Fine.

This review of intelligence was conducted for the Joint Forces Command by the Institute for Defense Analyses. In other words, this was directly commissioned BY THE PENTAGON. Things like this are always done by analysts who report their findings back to the people who commissioned the study.

You might think that means "it's not from the Pentagon," but that's like saying the government didn't release the 9/11 Commission Report--because the commission was made up of people who only USED to be members of the government.

Again, you're really stretching this thing, trying to discredit something that's coming FROM THE MILITARY. The facts are inconvenient. Deal with it.

It looks like the crazies are out if full force in their denial of the truth; that Saddam had NO links/ties to al-Qaeda.

But we already knew that from the Senate Intelligence Committee last fall when it’s report stating the same was released.

A visit of the various Fringe site who keep blowing head gaskets screeching about al-Zarqawi being in Iraq missed, or are pretending to have missed, the fact that Saddam had issues orders for Zarqawi’s arrest if his security forces found him in Iraq.

Mark E - I am going to have to take gb8898 seriously, you not so much. The pentagon is releasing info that discredits themselves. Seems like this report speaks truth.

Bush is running America much like Nazi Germany was run. All these hidden things about the Bush administration will come out some day,and the true evilness of all things Bush has endorsed will come to light.

GB, The Pentagon didn't write this. I already posted who did. If you don't know who even wrote it you really aren't to be taken seriously.

if this is true this makes bush as much a war criminal as saddam. how maney boys and girls has he gotten from his lies. it is all about the money that people are making on this war. how would this be to politically sensitive they dont want the american people to know the real story. keep digging this will make watergate look like a walk in the park.