The Jin-Class Submarine

I find this to be true that we Americans are losing the value of what life is and soon will lose our freedom. There are countries who are at odds with us and it seems like we do not support out Government no more and always on the other side of the fence. There is no unison anymore within the United States. We are ruined with greed and freedom. We must get back to the basics, christianity and supporting our Government and having respect for one another. Our children don't even respect us anymore in many households. I pray for United States and its inhabitants.

China could never stand a chance in an armed conflict with the United States.

If we think about military and economic threat against U.S. and westerna allies, it may be unthinkable to differentiate between the two. On military prowess, China appears to be expanding its military based on new technology acquired from advance countries perhaps from stolen secrets or through cooperation of another great powers but there is no concrete evidence yet to prove it can surpass US and western allies technology in direct non-conventional military confrontation. Two decades ago, military analyses concluded China is building its military by quantity and not by quality; it is remain to be seen. As far as what Michael Johnson devulged about China's economic diversity, this is something that the world should be aware of.

The next time you shop at WAL*MART count how many produts are made in America and how many made in China. If you use all of your fingers to count American I'd be surprised while you'll probably run out of digits on your calculator. What does this tell you about our national security? Think about it.

I was talking about counting Chinese goods on the calculator.

China wouldn't stand a chance against

the USA ?? Uh, China is slightly larger

than Iraq. And united . And powerful.

I think that the world is very lucky that I am not the President of the United States, for I would make some sweeping changes throughout the planet in a manner that would be very unpleasant for our enemies. You would not have to fear for our future. We would own the world, and after I erraticate the evil of the middle and far east, then the next country or organization who wants to pick up a weapon against a country which respects the priciple of human decency would understand that it would not be a very bright idea. Unless your understanding of the word bright includes the vision of a mushroom cloud in your field of view. I know this sounds harsh and insane, but humanity is headed for a bitter end unless it cleans up its act. Shame on all of us.

You'd be VERY wrong about that Ben. First think about how poor we are doing fighting in Iraq. Then ask yourself what kind of war we would fight with China. Nuclear? No. We'd have them outbombed, but a nuclear war on that scale is one that would destroy us. Air-war? No again. Attacking China with planes would be more futile than them attacking us. Our countries are too big, targets too spread out and diverse, and their army is much larger. More importantly their population vastly outnumbers ours so they can keep supplying soldiers and rebuilding armaments. Naval? No there too. We have the larger and superior Navy, but you can't wage a naval war - we'd still have to battle on the other fronts where we couldn't win. Land war? No, because we'd lose, and this is also the thing that would hit us hardest in any other (non-nuclear) war with China. Their population is so vast that they could supply ground troops to outnumber us 20-1, and rebuild and resupply their lines. On their land, a ground war would see us slaughtered. On our land we'd be in for the fight of our lives and after great losses on both sides our only hope for survival would be their difficulties in moving troops.

Heaven help us if we continue to grow more unpopular in the world. Other countries would join in such a war. If the join our side we might not be destroyed. If they join together, especially with China, we'd be crushed. Imagine China, the middle-eastern countries, and south america joining and moving troops up through Mexico. The best we could do is try and defend our border, but we couldn't for long.

Brown, taking up arms against the world WOULD make us fear for our future. We are a strong nation true, but we do not have the power to defeat the world. Plus, the world would not support us. Instead, they would rally against us. Odds are, we would become a third world country, divided into 4 parts by other countries...just like the last country that tried to "own the world." btw, eradicate, principle

On our economy and our military might never say never concerning World History. China just may surpass us someday with the arrogance we seem to have.

A crucial step to resolving the fears expressed in the above comments is for our country to reinvest in its manufacturing base. This is what creates our dependence on China. We cannot continue to outsource this crucial component to our economy--it is fundamental to our strategic and economic independence. And the problem is too complex to simply hope the problem can be solved by encouraging American consumers and industry to "buy American"--there are things that are simply no longer manufactured in the United States because of the free trade agreements. We as a people must actively stimulate our Congress to put forth economic legislation to make profitable again manufacturing in the United States and to make unprofitable outsourcing and deficit trade with China--legislation on the same order of magnitude as the legislation which allowed the United States to emerge from the Great Depression. We see what is happening and we know the nature of the problem. It is time to fix it. It is time for change.

Is that Calculator made in China????
I would not expect it to work correctly or at all for long.

Hmmmm as i sit here and listen to all u wonderful people with dif options. I say to my self aleast most of u have good views like me.Thats why its sooo imporant to join together to take back are country from lying crooks that are running the show today.

Thnaks for the infor, but as our counrty stand we have contributed to this to happen by making sure we purchased to other countires soon the doors will be closed on us if we have a famine.

Yes as I said before America is no longer going to be a good place to live, then what's next? Is my question if we are invaded again?

QUOTE "China could never stand a chance in an armed conflict with the United States." BRILLIANT! Nobody stands a chance if nukes are involved. We can't even beat Iraq because we've lost the ability to fight a war the way wars need to be fought. If your dumb enough to go to war at least be smart enough to win it. P.S. Maybe as cheap Americans we should stop buying junk from China and get back to manufacturing our own junk. We are going to nickel and dime them right to #1 super power status!

I think most Americans love peace. but American gov. they anxious about safety of themself.
chian's still is developing country. need in peace circumstance so it still slight increase their army. we need peace and safety. we didn't want an other iraq.

I can look at a picture of our home on Google Earth, too. It shows remarkable detail... from about five years ago! I wonder how old the picture of the submarine is!

The way China is so concerned about phoney product productions, why should they be concerned about the quality of Subs that break down in the water?!

Did anyone consider that China might not be considering the United States a target? They do border a dozen of the world's most dangerous and least stable places, not the least of which being North Korea (and we know what they can be like).

Everyone is assuming that, since the Soviets under Stalin wanted to take over the world (or at least half of Europe), that everyone else might be planning the same. That might be a little bit paranoid.

Reality is that China considers the United States to be a huge business partner. Why would they want to shoot at the States? There's no motive.

China's primary goal is regional supremacy - and it is expanding its military to counter South Korea and Japan. Presumably, the nuclear deterrant would be to keep the US at bay in the possible scenario of a Chinese move against Taiwan.