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Is God 'Obsolete'?
April 28, 2008 2:27 PM
Often the best part, for me, of writing this page is reading your comments. After thirteen hundred on natural selection and intelligent design (after the release of Ben Stein's "Expelled"), we're actually crashing that page on some computers.
So let's pick up the conversation here, if you'd like to continue. And to add some new material, let me offer the following from the John Templeton Foundation: a debate titled "Does science make belief in God obsolete?"
"Absolutely not!" writes physicist William D. Phillips.
"No, but it should," writes Christopher Hitchens, author of "God is not Great."
The foundation assembled a diverse group of thinkers for its "conversation," and their answers to the question are both reasoned and passionate.
Click HERE to take a look at their essays. The foundation took out full-page newspaper ads in Sunday papers to publicize its debate. Sir John Templeton, who made his fortune in mutual funds, makes it clear that his personal faith is strong, writing that he hopes his foundation will support the work of those who might deepen our "knowledge and love of God."
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Christopher Hitchens, although clever and adroit in his use of language, presents only superficial and decorative defenses of his theses. He has a clearly rebellious attitude towards any form of established authority. Finding faults in theism gives him a convient playground in which to indulge his charming word games.
Posted by: J Robinson | Apr 28, 2008 2:50:09 PM
Is the media obselete? Rapidly advancing is the belief that YES... it IS!!!
Posted by: Zdnet | Apr 28, 2008 2:56:12 PM
"Is God obsolete?"
Don't be so naive.
God is just as relevant as ever before with all the discoveries of Science. It all points to a Maker that really thought out everything very well. Just like God says, "It was good."
God is so amazing but you can't know about it if you don't learn everything about God. : )
Posted by: PQQAm | Apr 28, 2008 3:11:23 PM
"Does science make belief in God obsolete?"
I agree with the "absolutely not," although it may well be true that science makes it EASIER to switch to atheism.
The problem is that the existence of God is simply not a scientific question. Science cannot and should not have anything to say about it.
Posted by: jock59801 | Apr 28, 2008 3:17:19 PM
I don't think religion is intended to answer the same questions that science does - and someone's personal religious beliefs are their business. What some people fail to recognize, is when their beliefs stop being personal and start being written into law, or taught in public schools, they are subject to scrutiny and criticism.
Posted by: cturple | Apr 28, 2008 3:40:45 PM
Wow abc has an article called "is god obsolete" and an article called "is god a figament of imagination" all in one day, is this a pattern of anti-religion by abc? i wouldnt be surprised.
Posted by: adam | Apr 28, 2008 3:45:53 PM
"i find it hard to believe in something that requires me to give ten percent of what i make to a god who does not need it"
lol that 10% doesnt go to god, it goes to they people in need and for the costs of church. pastors need money to survive like the rest of us and many of the hungry and homeless have only us to look to for help. I find religion helpful because it gives me comfort knowing that something exists after death, what a sad life it would be knowing that when you die, your conciousness ceases to exist.
Posted by: adam | Apr 28, 2008 3:59:46 PM
i find it interesting that so far, none of the prophecies in the bible have been proved false and some, such as the return of israel, have come true. they are already have plans to rebuild the solomon's temple, probably wont happen anytime soon but the fact that they have plans already set out for it is quite interesting.
Posted by: adam | Apr 28, 2008 4:06:26 PM
"we are still killing people today in the name of religion"
While technically true, I'm not sure that is the main reason. I think without religion we would still find some excuse to kill each other.
Religion and faith do tend to make some people fanatical, but others seem to resist this. So again I am not sure how much is just human nature.
Posted by: jock59801 | Apr 28, 2008 4:13:01 PM
I find it interesting that some say religion is harming the evolution of man. National Geographic, a magazine always leaning toward the evolution side, wrote an article on long life, showing that at least one religion in general terms allowed for longer life. i would say that longer life is an advance in the human race, not a hindrance.
Posted by: David | Apr 28, 2008 4:13:12 PM
Also those who say, those who beleive in god also beleive in holy wars obviously dont know the teachings in the bible. What the catholics did in the middle ages against the muslims was despicable, just as despicable as what some of the fanatic muslims are doing today. the teachings of the bible promote peace and turning the other cheek. having no religion wouldnt end wars, it would only intensify them as it would destroy morality. Example: if you were about to shoot someone in the head and you knew that there was no god, you would think that there would be no punishment after death for your crimes so killing another would be that much easier. If no one believed in god, then we would be just another species of animals basing all our actions on our primordial instincts, having no ethics or morals to look to because most of what we look to as "good and bad" comes from religion.
Posted by: adam | Apr 28, 2008 4:16:08 PM
What should be asked is not “is God obsolete”, but is religion (in its current state) obsolete.
Posted by: Leon | Apr 28, 2008 4:16:22 PM
GOD is unknowable. The God that humans can conceive of cannot possibly be GOD.
Posted by: Amazing G | Apr 28, 2008 4:16:35 PM
First off the very question is a bit exclusionary. Why just god singular? or god rather than goddess? I think this is often the case when this debate is put forward in majority judeo-christian majority setting. But it probably makes a catchier slogan than "Are the gods.." Or, "Is the divine...".
You have to wonder what a supposedly pluralistic country with no establishment of religion is doing making hindu and buddhist citizens pass around money that says, "In god we trust".
I mean, of course we don't respect atheists, thats the american way. But disrespecting other people of faith is usually taboo.
Posted by: bubba | Apr 28, 2008 4:19:07 PM
Please nix the caps already. You're giving me a headache reading your post. Your free will whether you want to believe in God or not came from Him. And religion is not killing people, people are killing people and screaming it in the name of some religion. That's not religion, that's insanity, hate and violence. Peace to you.
Posted by: jnnttlc | Apr 28, 2008 4:24:56 PM
Some people will always need a 'god'.
Posted by: DennisNC | Apr 28, 2008 4:27:56 PM
David, I have found that both "The National Geographic Channel and "The History Channel" have, along with their objective programs, programs that promote Christianity.
Posted by: DennisNC | Apr 28, 2008 4:32:49 PM
I think people today think they are soo smart, that they can answer everything and beleive that god doesnt exist based on the current information science has given us, and yet scientists cannot explain why there is a universe, even with the big bang theory. based on the theory there should be no universe, just expanding energy. When the big bang happened both matter and antimatter expelled from the explosion en equal amounts. (creating matter results in creating equal antimatter) So when they both were expelled they collided into eachother resulting in coversion into pure energy. Yet for some unknown reason there was more matter than antimatter resulting from the explosion which defies what science tells us.
Posted by: adam | Apr 28, 2008 4:42:22 PM
Good night all. I'm leaving this conversation until it becomes civil.
Posted by: jnnttlc | Apr 28, 2008 4:43:22 PM
Hebrews 11:1-Faith is being sure of what we hope for and certain of what we do not see.
(We walk by faith not by sight)
Posted by: SueEllen | Apr 28, 2008 4:44:16 PM
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