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Global Warming 'Consensus' Takes a 'Hit' -- or Not?

July 21, 2008 3:48 PM

Earth_from_orbit It made the Drudge Report.  At the Washington Times, editor emeritus Wesley Pruden wrote, "Al Gore picked a bad day to tout his global-warming scam."

And it got this headline from the "Political Grapevine" at Fox News: "Scientific Consensus About Global Warming Takes Another Big Hit"

"An organization representing nearly 50,000 physicists has reversed its stance on climate change," it reports. "The American Physical Society now says that many of its members no longer believe global warming is caused by humans.

Sounds like quite a story--except that the APS insists it's not true.

"APS Position Remains Unchanged," says a message on its home page.

"The American Physical Society reaffirms the following position on climate change, adopted by its governing body, the APS Council, on November 18, 2007:

"'Emissions of greenhouse gases from human activities are changing the atmosphere in ways that affect the Earth's climate.'

"An article at odds with this statement recently appeared in an online newsletter of the APS Forum on Physics and Society, one of 39 units of APS.  The header of this newsletter carries the statement that "Opinions expressed are those of the authors alone and do not necessarily reflect the views of the APS or of the Forum."  This newsletter is not a journal of the APS and it is not peer reviewed."

The original APS statement from 2007 is HERE.  It says, in part, "The evidence is incontrovertible: Global warming is occurring. If no mitigating actions are taken, significant disruptions in the Earth’s physical and ecological systems, social systems, security and human health are likely to occur.

At the Forum on Physics & Society, on the other hand, one finds this introductory comment from one of the editors, Jeffrey Marque:

"With this issue of Physics & Society, we kick off a debate concerning one of the main conclusions of the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC), the UN body which, together with Al Gore, recently won the Nobel Prize for its work concerning climate change research. There is a considerable presence within the scientific community of people who do not agree with the IPCC conclusion that anthropogenic CO2 emissions are very probably likely to be primarily responsible for the global warming that has occurred since the Industrial Revolution," he writes. 

There are two opposing articles at the forum, which you can find HERE and HERE

I e-mailed editor Marque, and he replied that he could not comment. "I am indeed aware of the 'hubbub' created by the July 2008 issue of our newsletter. I am now in the process, along with my colleagues with the American Physical Society, of trying to transform the 'hubbub' into a calmer conversation." 

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Are these the same sort of experts that said the air was safe to breath after 9/11? What a corrupt bunch. Who's signing there paycheck?

Posted by: Bea | Jul 21, 2008 4:29:27 PM

I don't doubt the climate is changing. But like I've pointed out in previous topics, I doubt we humans have the affect we're being told we have. But, in telling people that we're the sole reason climate is changing, we are getting better at taking care of our planet. I can go with that.

It's amazing that false information like that gets used, put out, and believed by many. We're so gullable it's not funny.

Posted by: Lawrence | Jul 21, 2008 4:30:20 PM

This sounds a bit like the "Oregon Petition" where global warming skeptics sent out material using NAS font and formatting that was probably designed to mislead people into thinking the NAS supported the mailing. The character behind it was also a big tobacco scientist. heh.

This case may not have been intentional but was later misrepresented by some anti-global warming zealots.

Posted by: bubba | Jul 21, 2008 4:32:21 PM

Ignorance is bliss. We have the knowledge and technology to solve both global warming and our energy problems.

Even if Global Warming is not real, our energy problems are.

When you are done slimbering, open your eyes to renewable energy. Dare I say it, nuclear power is also a viable alternative to our current method of power production.

Let's do it people.

Posted by: g | Jul 21, 2008 4:37:24 PM

Well i still thik we believe we are at fault for warming, and i also believe we only have one chance to get it right. What's that worst that can happen if we take better care of our planet? That it's cleaner and the air is better to breathe? If we don't try then whose to say we mess it up even more and have no shot at human existence because of it! NJ beaches are already looking better!!!!

Posted by: rob99eclipse | Jul 21, 2008 4:46:36 PM

Global warming is happening on Earth, Mars, Venus, Jupiter and other planets as well. The sun has been more active than at anytime in the last 11 thousand years. More activity = more heat which means that the Earth gets a little warmer.

Posted by: Jeff | Jul 21, 2008 4:47:35 PM

.... NJ beaches already look better thanks to better conservation and dumping practices

Posted by: rob99eclipse | Jul 21, 2008 4:49:12 PM

This is nothing new. Humans have a long history of jumping on false bandwagons.

Posted by: LongT | Jul 21, 2008 4:54:32 PM

Jeff - good point.

Posted by: Frustrated Voter | Jul 21, 2008 4:54:54 PM

Even poll after poll taken of the British people show they overwhelmingly think man made global warming is being hyped and being used to raise taxes, etc. etc.

This just isn't working for the liberals. People are waking up and seeing the total political agenda behind it.

Yahooo.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 21, 2008 4:55:34 PM

Don't talk ot me about global warming, when Al the "hippocrite" Gore needs 2 lincoln limos and a Chevy Suburban to get get to a presentatonin DC last week. DOn't tell me about GLobal warming when NBC send mattliar around the world and ask us " where in the world is mattlair" When Al gore and nbc and CBS and ABC take Global warming seriously Then i will.

Posted by: Steve | Jul 21, 2008 4:56:19 PM

Steve, amen.

And I really love it when so-called environmental celebs tell us how to reduce our carbon footprint while they fly around in private jets.

When THEY start acting like it's a crisis, then I'LL believe it's a crisis.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 21, 2008 4:58:54 PM

The partisan politics at fault for hampering advancements in research and development of renewable energy and effectively halting progress at combating global warming have absolutely nothing to do with christianity. The religious right is dead, you're gonna have to find something else to cry about.

Posted by: Jon | Jul 21, 2008 4:59:06 PM

Andrew, you obviously don't read Drudge. He just links to newsites - all kinds of sites. He links to plenty of global warming hyped stories too. So nice try.

Geeze I wish liberals would get a clue.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 21, 2008 5:00:37 PM

Andrew, I never disputed climate change. I agree it's happening. I don't agree that we humans are the sole cause. I do agree that we are having an affect. But a smaller one than we are led to believe.

On a side note, calling other's comments dumb, destroys any credibility you had. If you take a look at past comments made by some of the posters that get into debates with eachother, you'll notice the lack of derogatory comments. While posters who use comments like that are largely ignored. I suggest that if you would like your opinions heard and addressed by more people, that you should curb any derogatory language.

Posted by: Lawrence | Jul 21, 2008 5:02:06 PM

Sorry for not proof-reading. Here are my corrected remarks.

When you read some of the dumb comments in this blog disputing incontrovertible facts on human-influenced global warming, it should be no surprise that nothing has, or possibly, will be done about it in time to avert disaster. Rightwingers, such as Drudge, Washington Times, and Fox News, continue to feed the public propaganda that global warming is a hoax because Al Gore and most scientists are progressive liberals. I admit that this issue threatens the Bush Republican agenda.

There is a parellel to facist dictatorships throughout history snuffing out intellectual free thought, which threatens their agenda.

Posted by: Andrew Segal | Jul 21, 2008 5:02:40 PM

The problem is scientist are not politicians and do not use language that most people can relate to. Never before has the scientific community agreed on a single issue and that a few are putting their head in the sand, is normal. Look at history. It seems intelligent people would be cautious and error in favor of humanity instead of making a career for themselves. If humans are not the cause, maybe we can be part of the solution. I live on planet earth and do not need 100% scientific consensus to make a decision to move forward. By that standard we would all still be in Europe debating if the World is flat or round. Some on this issue are right and the others are wrong, for me I am voting for a Greener planet.

Posted by: Tom | Jul 21, 2008 5:03:45 PM

Global warming is what liberals are using to advance their anti capitalistic, liberal agenda (because nothing else has worked).....and they're ###### cuz this issue isn't working either.

Like I said, even the British, who get fed more liberal propaganda than we ever dreamed of aren't buying it.

People are smarter than liberals want to believe. The sky is falling has never worked for them.

Posted by: Jo | Jul 21, 2008 5:04:00 PM

Jo,
First, the GOP isn't the religious right (see: John McCain). Second, is Drudge or any of your other pet conservative media outlets comprised of or backed by credible scientists? Nope, didn't think so.

Posted by: Jon | Jul 21, 2008 5:06:36 PM

As usual the left thinks the world is coming to an end if we don't act now. Change the face of the planet now or we'll all die. They talk about right wing scare tactics. That's a laugh. Scare tactics are definitley practiced every day in the liberal world. If you disagree your ignorant. They always say " the debate is over, the evidence proves it". Liberals hate debate. It's their way or the highway. That should be reason enough not to trust anything they say. I'm sure their well intentioned, but I still like to hear both sides. Not just dismiss evidence to the contrary.

Posted by: Doug | Jul 21, 2008 5:09:03 PM

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