Global Warming 'Consensus' Takes a 'Hit' -- or Not?

George Carlin does a great riff on the subject. The ABC spam filter won't let me post the link but I'm sure you all know where the video is. Just search George Carlin Global Warming. Classic.

I don't know why you people don't listen to Al Gore and Hollywood. They are the smartest people on the planet. Just ask them. I actually saw one post that tried to support Al Gore's grossly disproportionate use of energy. I guess people on the left will believe anything their told by Al. Even though he had to lie in his movie. I'm sure someone on hear will tell me he didn't lie, it's a right wing conspiracy.

GOES TO SHOW WHEN YOU GET A BUNCH PHYCISTS GET TOGETHER THEY BECOME STUPID, AN IDIOT CAN SEE HOW THE CLIMITE IS CHANGING, AN IT DOESENT TAKE NOTHING BUT COMMON SENCE TO SEE ALL THE POLUTION WE DUMPP AROUND THE WORLD, sO WHAT DOES THAT TELL YA, POULITION IS A GOOD THING FOR THIS PLANET?. SMOG IS GOOD ?. AND HAS NO EFFECT ON THE PLANET ?. ITS ALWAYS THE ONES WE THINK ARE SMART THAT END UP SHOWING THERE LACK OF COMMON SENCE.

One of the problems with the global warming theory is that the scientists have not proved that it's man made. Therefore, we must continue to think objectively; all facts are not "incontovertible". Everything must be looked at using the scientific process regardless of any other influence. Just a few years ago in a Time article had "incontrovertible" facts that the earth was cooling. Lets be reasonable and think rationally.

It's amazing that it has taken this long for Conservatives and Republicans to finally acknowledge that global warming is real. But they still deny there is any connection between global warming and greenhouse gasses. Just as there is no real connection between the fossil record and evolution. Or between cigarette smoke and lung cancer. Science and reality are just more liberal conspiracies.

Global warming is happening...but the ice age also happened. The earth goes thru cycles, cooling and heating. Its natural not man made. Like others posted, the benefits of people believing in this hype is that yes, the planet will look a bit nicer. But honestly look at the earth, the ice didnt melt b/c it stayed cold. Its not hard to know that global warming is an economic scam. Al is touting his believes, but if he truly believed in his own words dont ya think he would be a little more cautious about his own "carbon foot print?" When you believe something as strongly as he seems to that seems obvious that you would follow your own advice. Also i read a statement about leo not taking commercial jets. His agent/publicist said "when your as big of a star as leo you can not always fly commercial" oh hell, if you believed that the world was coming to an end b/c of global warming you would not be flying private jet....jeez, some people can be sooo crazy!

"are very probably likely" - this is the key to the argument. They will not say definitly. Chicago used to be on the Equater, which it will be again when the Magnetic field flips again. Make your plans accordingly.

Ken - "Therefore, we must continue to think objectively; all facts are not 'incontovertible'." - You're correct. The two problems I see is that we really don't have the technology right now to prove 100% that global warming is or is not caused by man. I think all we can do at this stage is realize that there is a risk that it's manmade and try to mitigate that risk. The other problem is that this entire issue has become so politicized that differing opinions on the facts are being squelched on both sides of the political spectrum.

Kat - "Chicago used to be on the Equater, which it will be again ..." - I can tell you I just stepped outside and it FEELS like the equator!

The disinformation campaigns of the coal and oil lobbyists folks just don't seem to carry the same weight from when runaway atmospheric CO2 levels were billed as a natural event.
Funny thing is if you hired this group of physicists to terraform a cold inhospitable planet with vast resources of sequestered hydrocarbons they would recommend implementing the industrial practices of 20th century earth as a example of how to warm things up quickly.

If we survive that magnetic shift at all, I'm sure all plans will have been rendered useless, Kat. While the magnetic alignment may shift very quickly (come Dec 2012), the axis on which we spin (physical alignment), may take thousands of years to readjust itself. This will induce many violent geographical upheavals while the Earth gets used to its' new saddle. We petty and fragile humans may not survive at all.

I just saw this ad for the first time from a group called "We Can Solve It"; a global warming ad campaign sponsored by former Vice President Al Gore's Alliance for Climate Protection with Reverend Al Sharpton and Pat Robertson.
"I am honored that Al Gore asked me to be a part of this campaign urging people to take care of the planet," Robertson said on the Christian Broadcast Network. Make of it what you will.

Puhleeze... The North Pole is completely melting. How am I gonna explain to my kid where Santa will live now? Seriously, only a fool thinks that humanities activities aren't leaving a significant footprint on this ole world of ours. I'd rather be wrong now about global warming and clean up our act rather than having our children and our children's children curse us as the selfich generation who did nothing because we were too freaking lazy...

Norway created the Svalbard Global Seed Vault to protect agricultural seeds from climate change, plant epidemics, natural disasters or war. It opened in February of this year. Countries from around the world will be able to deposit seeds.

Nobody gets money for a project like this unless they can demonstrate a pretty good reason.

If Global warming is as bad as they say. Then all the jets, satelites, rockets that go through and burn up the atmosphere would be stopped. For surely they cause the major damage. No one ever suggest they are causing any damage.

It is a major scare tactic to make money now. Al Gore is getting rich off it. More than he is making any certain progress for a cure for it all.

Sure there are things we can do to conserve and clean up the earth. Until people like Al Gore put their money into actually, knowing, what, where, when and how with certainty and accuracy and start living by it. then The general public can follow.

Even in the IPCC's own conference there was massive division. There were personal attacks, factionalism, and just general immature behavior throughout. This was just in making the report.

These so-called "scientists" did not behave very scientifically at all. Why? Well for one thing most of these people really weren't really climatologists to begin with. Their backgrounds were in political science, just like that of Al Gore's and their goals were something very different than contributing to science.

Those who represented other countries held a personal grudge against the United States and desperately wanted something to accuse Americans of. Global warming was a perfect accusation.

It is not a surprise that more and more of these so-called "scientists" jumped off the bandwagon when the average temperature of the earth actually stabilized in the last ten years when the CO2 rate rose. Also when gas prices around the world increased and the issue became more politicaly unpopular, these "scientists" had even more reason to jump off.

Now that there is an election and there is a possibility Obama might lose, the APS is now denying that the "scientists" are jumping off the bandwagon. Well, how do they explain the most recent desertion? That of the head of NOAA? I guess he didn't REALLY resign. That's just our imagination.

I guess we HAVE to have an apocolypse of some kind that Americans are responsible for. We have to make sure that each and every American hangs their head in collective shame over SOMETHING. If it weren't global warming it would be something else.

Desertification due to overgrazing is a much more dire problem.

For one moment, could we please have the Liberals and the Conservatives remove their cranial cavities from their rectums and smell the coffee!

Global Warming is REAL. Humans are not the sole cause but we are part of the problem. It doesn't matter whether it is natural or man made..., it is still happening.

What we need are intelligent plans to combat the potential problems that will arise from Global Warming and it's impact on us as a species.

Stop deluding yourselves and pointing fingers at whoever you disagree with. Something needs to be done but let us seek out sensible solutions.

Burying our heads in the sand or pointing at the sky..., isn't going to solve the problem before it does become a crisis.

It is unfortunate that it is a quirk of human nature that we will avoid anything unpleasant until we can no longer avoid it..., and then we over react to it!

"This is similar to facist dictatorships throughout history snuffing out intellectual free thought, which threaten their agenda."
Posted by: Andrew Sega
If that were the case then why can't scientists get grants without "global warming" in their proposals? The doomsayers have basically been the ones to stifle intellectual thought by witholding research money unless it confirms their position.

A direct quote, also from the APS statement; "Because the complexity of the climate makes accurate prediction difficult, the APS urges an enhanced effort to understand the effects of human activity on the earths climate"