Science and Society

Hey, that's a clever positive feedback. Burn oil so we can melt the ice caps and find omre oil!

the Arctic isn't melting. Global warming alarmists are chiseling it away with ice picks and Ohio Blue Tips in order to make it look like there's a problem so they can be funded to study a science they don't believe in. I work for Exxon and I approve this message.

God owns it.

Why is everyone obsessed with ownership? These caps are necessary for life on earth. If anyone claims to "own them" and then commences to destroy them because they own them, you watch how fast this so-called ownership lasts.

Ownership is the biggest problem in the world today, The world is no longer a place to be honored, it is no longer a place we respect, If we dont OWN it we dont care. My ancestors had the right idea, Give back to Mother Earth, never tread harshly upon her, as long as we honored the balance of nature, we did ok, now we take and take with no thought to the balance of the planet, Mother Earth is trying to protect herself from us with every hurricane, every flood, every earthquake, we are being told we are hurting the planet in the only way the planet can tell us.

i agree with get real.... mother earth is warning the people to wise up

I don't know who owns the place-but you can bet we'll be there soon to "Bring them Democracy".

Well, why can't it be considered international property. Something like Antarctica. That way no one can claim ownership, yet all can use it. I think that would be best, instead of bickering over who gets what part of the sea floor.

I agree with Lawrence that the International Community should have made the Artic claims-free, thus international property. Yet given how much oil is value today, I highly doubt Russia and other nations will honor this, thus they all seek out to claim whatever land under the Artic ASAP.

Speaking of claiming, I hate to say this but the USA better seek out to say they claim the land off Alaska or else if they wait too long, Canada and Russia will go right in to claim it. No amount of being a 'nice guy' will do the USA good in this 'Claim the Artic' game.

BTW, I just thought of something. If the land under the Artic now belongs to these nations, does this make the ocean no longer 'international waters'? Does this mean submarines and other vessels can't go through these waters? This question is important now that this is the first time there are 'land claims' to land under the oceans.

All of this for 3 years worth of oil. THREE. Well, there MAY be 3 years worth... what's the point..?

"3 years worth of oil", is a favorite refrain. Consider however that the USA makes that stretch out to say, 50% of US consumption for 6 years. Can you say, OPEC MELTDOWN? How about $9.95 per barrel oil? No, I don't think producing our way out of crisis is a long term goal. Yes, I do think it must be part of the strategy, and it must begin now!

well, personally, I think that Lawrence is correct. I mean all can use it and then we don't have to worry about going into each others teritory. What's the point of bickering over something that can be easily resolved?

Who owns the moon? What parts of Mars are our's? Who owns the sky over the Pacific? I tell you, humanity is full of barbarians, from the west to the east, north to the south. A cyclone or huricane can slam us within minutes taking with it thousands of lives. That's when mother nature tells us that SHE owns us; we don't own her. Humanity is a huge embarresment to earth.

Hey, that's a clever positive feedback. Burn oil so we can melt the ice caps and find omre oil!

Jock, you pride yourself on being "scientific". Surely, you're smart enough to know that one or two oil wells will hardly "melt the ice" in the arctic.

But here's an even better idea! Let's be even more dependent on Middle Eastern oil and have gas prices raise to $8.00 a gallon here in the US, thereby creating an even deeper recession and more poverty! That'll certainly teach those American's a lesson about "melting ice" in the Arctic.