Pushback

The Walter Reed problem is an embarrassment, but it is not new. My grandfather fought in WW I in France. He in his old age developed health problems that required hospitalization and I went with my family as he was admitted to a VA hospital. I was only about 14 years old, but I noticed the hospital was not clean and had a bad odor, unlike the hospitals from where I lived. That was 40 years ago.

Regarding questioning Senator McCain's character I have a problem with that. He is simply a political threat and thus misrepresentations in this area are to be expected however unfair.

I have the greatest respect for him.

I have no position regarding either his fundraising or Attorney General Gonzales.

I do know that the dismissed attorneys "serve at the pleasure of the president". To consider their function as apolitical is not realistic. Even if dismissed for political reasons, it is legal. What I don't understand is why it was not explained that these attorneys serve at the pleasure of the president and any can dismissed for whatever reason or without reason at any time, and left at that.

It is granted that for political reason leaves a bad taste, but it does not matter if I correctly understand the basis on which they serve.

Just more political games. None of the named candidates from either side has indicated any intention other than to preserve the ststus quo. It would be nice for someone to enter the race on one simple platform statement, "War on corruption" then outline steps to bring government into line with its' founding principle, "of the people, by the people and for the people, instead of "of, by, and for the money", and "life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness", rather than "death, social dictatorship, and the denial of happiness", Mr. McCain, could you be that person? So far, doesn't look that way...

The rats on both sides of the aisle would start heading for the gangplank...

Briany Whiny
Sits on his hiny,
Till it is shiny.
Briany whiny's hiny's shiny.

Briany Whiny:

You are a foreigner.

You are not "of the people".

You lack knowledge of United States democracy.

You lack knowledge in United States economics.

You lack knowledge in United States politics.

You lack knowledge in United States history.

You lack knowledge in United States sociology.

You are an outsider.

You have no rightful say. You can't vote. Voters have say.

It is apparent you have very serious problems and you are starting to again to hijack this blog to get it off track like you did the last one.

You have a serious mental disorder driving your compulsiveness.

Take your socialist ideas and devote them to correcting the problem nation from which you exist. There is no greater place to live other in the United States of America. If you are so smart, then devote your time to your sub-standard country. It needs it more than the United States does.

Briany Whiny:

I nailed you more than once related to the fact you have no concern of the murder, rape, and mutilation in mass of women and young girls. Because of where the atrocities were coming from you would not condemn these people.

Pervert; You are really a sick puppy.

You know what is "shameful" Mr McCain:

1) Not questioning Mr Bush enough about the claims of WMDs
2) Not questioning Mr Rumsfeld about the strategy to win the war
3) Not questioning the "Commander in Chief" and the Sec of Defence about the troops being sent without body armor
4) Standing by and letting our heroes being subjected to nightmarish conditions at Walter Reed and God knows how many other VA hospitals.

If it werent for the Democrats being in power in Congress, there would be no

1) Change of Strategy in Iraq
2) Sec Def Gates - Rumsfeld would still be here.
3) No investigation of Walter Reed.

Believe me Mr McCain, it is you who should be ashamed of your behavior in Congress - and Yes The Democrats love the troops a heck of a lot more than the Republicans, which is why they fight to get the troops the correct equipment, the correct hospital care and most importantly the correct strategy to fight a War - something that Bush, McCain and all the other Republicans seem to have forgotten.

To Do_do:

YOU MIGHT WANT CHANGE ALIASES. IT IS TOO CLOSE TO DODO – A STUPID BIRD THAT COULD NOT FLY.

When I went to a VA hospital were my grandfather was admitted the place was dirty and it smelled terrible. That was during a Democrat administration.

What do you know of John McCain? Well, he fought in a Democrat War in Vietnam.

(WWII was a Democrat war that began due to what at best is described as incompetence. That is putting it mildly. Pearl Harbor should have never happened.)

He was a pilot who was shot down on combat mission over Vietnam. He was captured immediately and confined in the Hanoi prison system, as was verified by Radio Hanoi broadcasts and later information gathered during his years of imprisonment. McCain was severely injured, having broken both arms and his right leg, and his strength in coping through his recuperation was inspiring to many of his fellow POWs.

The Vietnamese would have made it easy on him since his father was "Admiral John S. McCain, Jr. Commander-in-Chief of the Pacific Command. As such, he directed all U.S. military operations in the vast war theater during the Vietnam war. He exercised command over ground and air operations in Vietnam. The Vietnamese would have liked to have done nothing less than use him as part of their propaganda machine. The POW John McCain would in no fashion cooperate with his captures.

To this day, John McCain suffers from war injuries such as the fact he has problems straightening his arms.

NOW JUST WHO ARE YOU? HAS YOUR FAMILY FOUGHT IN EVERY WAR IN THE UNITED STATE SINCE THE REVOLUTIONARY WAR? JOHN MCCAIN’S FAMILY HAS.

Are you a decorated wounded war veteran who was a POW under the worst conditions for five and one half years? I think not.

Now who is better to understand military affairs and the treatment of the wounded than John McCain? Now unless you meet his pedigree and experience you might learn something by listening than talking.

By the way, can you fly?

Heads up everyone, Mr. ebbarn is here, and as usual, purposely making incorrect assumptions, (lying) and otherwise trying to spread the gospel according to Hitler. Don't mind him, he needs pity, it is already too late for education. the time for his kind of thinking is already over, he is one of the last dregs of American noenazis...

To Mr. McCain

Your sacrifice as a POW is a great sacrifice for anyone to make for their country, it shows that at the time you were ready to give up all in service to your nation, this is undisputable.

But now, there is a need for a new war, a war on corruption, which bankrupted the country once, and is about to do so a second, and possibly fatal time. The enemy is just as willing to literally kill any opposition to its plans as the Vietnamese were to kill the invaders.

President Kennedy lost his life for his attempt to stop the illegal paramilitary action in Cuba, Cambodia and Vietnam in the '60s, the corrupt know no bounds.

The current president and his friends have trampled over almost every law in the constitution, for the profit of his friends and supporters, and at the cost of countless innocent lives on both sides of an unnecessary conflict.

Mr McCain, knowing firsthand the nightmare that is war, surely the deaths of US men and women for the profit of Halliburton and Bechtel would leave a bitter taste for you, as they did not die for their country, just a small group of rich people seeking to become richer, and who were willing to lie to your senate fraternity, the American people, and even the UN to justify their plan for the invasion and occupation of soverign states.

We now spend literally billions every month to continue this deadly farce, and loose accounting sees much of that money disappear into seemingly thin air, money which could modernize and repair America's education, communication, transportation, and health care infrastructure.

Any president who actually takes a concrete stand to fight corruption will be a sure target for assassination, but what is the alternative?

How much longer, Mr McCain can the US absorb such abuse?

To Mr. Ebbarn
You show an unusual concern for my "shiny hiny" (sic).
Sorry dude, I don't swing that way, try your local YMCA...

To Mr. SteveinVa

I also don't doubt for a minute that Sen. McCain stands for the soldiers who are now in harms' way.
My question, however that since Bushco corruption and lies got us in there in the first place, the question becomes just what is "victory"?

Are we trying to install a puppet government there, who will submit to American rule by proxy? That will never succeed, Iraqis won't, and rightly shouldn't accept this.

Are we trying to restore some kind of order to a place we ourselves plunged into the current state of anarchy? We removed a strong hand that, for whatever we thought of him, at least kept order, and for us to reestablish order, we will have to use the same tactics Saddam used, how does this make us any better than Saddam?

The problem is the lies that sent us there, they don't entail any solution that can be called victory, there was no real goal before we went in.

On the day of the invasion, Bushco told the American public that the reason for going in was "to disarm Iraq," (they weren't armed) "to free its' people" (whose land we now occupy illegally) "and to protect the world from danger" (again, they weren't armed)...

So now we are there for no real reason, just what is meant by "victory"?

Brian:

Okay Pervert.

You never have answered the reason you do not condemn the rape, murder, and mutilation of women and young girls from a sect of people in Africa.

Just where did I lie and how do you connect me to Hitler? Please give case and point. Reference blog date and time. I am calling your hand.

Just what are my incorrect assumptions? Please give case and point. Reference blog date and time.

What evidence do you have that I am connected to neo-Nazis. Please give case and point. Reference blog date and time.

Again, reference my blog by date and time where I lied and made incorrect assumptions.

My father taught me that a liar will do anything. In my graduate study one of my professors taught me that “truth is that which is consistent, does not disagree with itself, and corresponds to reality.” By the way, what is your level of education and what is it in? Also, as part of my enrolling into a Baptist college I was required to take a psychological profile. My adviser was the most qualified in the college and he determined I am solid as a rock. He was fluent in Hebrew and was one of the translators of the New King James Translation.

I have a double major in accounting and business administration with emphasis in economics from an award winning university. I have an equivalent major in religion. My graduate work is in theology with emphasis in apologetics and psychology. I am a licensed professional in one of the most demanding field in business.

When was the United States bankrupted as you claim? Please give case and point.

You claim verbatim: "President Kennedy lost his life for his attempt to stop the illegal paramilitary action in Cuba, Cambodia and Vietnam in the '60s, the corrupt know no bounds." What is your documentation? Please give case and point. You have none liar. The reason is you are a foreigner and are butt ignorant in this area.

Regarding your "shiny hinny", it apparently results from your sitting on your dead hind end, not my interest. You are juvenile. It is a nursery rhyme play on "fuzzy wuzzy was a bear, fuzzy wuzzy had no hair." Over 15 years, I worked with over 7,000 kids and I have seen a lot of juveniles like you. It is appropriate that I deal with you as a juvenile.

You don't spend anything in United States taxes if as you claim that you are a foreigner. What is your concern related to United States spending? Why not deal with the affairs of your own second rate nation if you are so smart? I doubt they would listen to you.

What got us in Iraq was as much the fault of the Clinton administration as anything. They gutted intelligence and left the military in deplorable shape. These plans, tests, and acquisitions of armor and equipment were set in motion years before Bush took office.

Bush inherited a Democrat created problem. Clinton’s incompetence resulted in Bin Laden getting away. If Clinton had been on the ball, it is unlikely there would have ever been a 9/11 and 3,000 lives would have been save. All Clinton did was facilitate Bin Laden to go in hiding and scare a bunch of camels with cruise missles.

What massive assault has been made by U.S. forces on the Iraqi people? The assaults are on the insurgency, foreign fighters, and sectarian violence. The assaults on the Iraqi people are by the insurgents, foreign fighters, and sectarian violence. Islamic extremists hate democracy and your support of their murderous actions indicates you also do. True and sadly like any war innocent citizen get caught in the crossfire, but the United States incites no violence. Granted like any segment of any population there are military personnel that are capable of atrocities and commit such, but it is vastly separated from the military in general.

Hussein had a vest bomb factory and a $25,000 reward to any family who’s a member died in a suicide attack on Israel. Used enough the net effect of suicide attacks is horrible and in time becomes as destructive as WMDs.

Does that get you off Pervert? You ignore and have no concern of such facts. Hitler wanted the Jews murdered and not once have you voiced concern.

Following your logic it can only end in another Holocaust of the Jews. Hitler hated the Jews. You have once to defend Israel against Hamas, Hussein’s aspirations, and Iran’s aspirations. I have been to Israel, even the West Bank, and found them to be good people but also a people on guard for the purpose of preventing what Hitler did. I was there during attacks on the Israeli people. That does not bother you at all does it Pervert?

Hussein had a desire to develop WMDs for certain. He behaved as a guilty man. A hidden centrifuge under a bush in the sands of Iraq and the possession plans for a nuclear bomb is evidence of his intent but probably not his ability given the scrutiny he was under.

Also, just what satellite surveillance is capable of detecting an atomic weapon as you claim? There is none. That is really a joke. You really revealed your ignorance there.

Again Pervert. You would take no opposition to the murder, rape, and mutilation of women and young girls by extremists in Africa.

That gives you a sick thrill doesn’t it?

Brian:

OK Hot Shot.

Give me some evidence, not the talk of your senseless rambling accusations and assertions.

I am trained and experienced in dealing with and determining the validity of evidence. I have done it for over 30 years.

I have been in civil court 128 times and have been on the winning side 125. I knew the 3 lost were losers before going to court. Two were done on principle. I wanted to make a couple of men sweat. One was only a partial victory and should have never gone to court.

Your accusations in a United States court would go nowhere and you would be revealed as the nut case you are. I have seen it happen too many times.

I am trained and experienced in Apologetics. If you don't know what it means use a dictionary.

I have made firm stands regarding Christianity. As such, why are you so stupid to attempt to connect me with Neo-Nazism? Christianity is diametrically opposed to Neo-Nazism you reprobate. Are you so ignorant that you lack the least fragment of intelligence that such an assertion is the rambling of a fool?

Such paranoia is evidence that you are a man left to his own thoughts condemned to senseless rambling till the day you die.

I would like to know a couple of things.

Why do you not defend Israel and why have you never condemned the murder, rape, and mutilation of women and young girls by extremists in Africa?

There is a thing about manure. When a person sits in it long enough he or she gets so accustomed to it that there is no longer a sense of smell of manure. You have sat in manure so long you can not smell it, but most everyone else can. I certainly smell it.

Brian:

There is no avoidance of battle with Fundamental Islam. There are around 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. About 250 million of these fall in the Fundamental Jihadist camp. With unwavering conviction they are dedicated to the destruction of Western culture in its entirety.

Now I grant that the intelligence and interpretation of the evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was faulty and even somewhere in the Bush administration faulty. At some point there seemed to be misrepresentations at some level. Did Bush outright lie? I don’t think so. I do think that as with all endeavors of this sort there was evidence to the contrary that Iraq had WMDs. The problem was sifting through it.

This may be the worst or most fortunate thing that could have happened. The greatest evidence that there is some benefit to the United States is that there have been no attacks on United State soil or on its foreign interests including embassies since 9/11.

It is important to choose your battlefield in war. By that you have advantage.

Now let me pose a question. Is it better to fight the unavoidable war with Islamic extremist in the Middles East or is it better to fight it on United States soil? I suspect you would rather that it be on United States soil based on your logic.

to Mr. Ebbarn,

Your own words convict you, I don't need to add more, all of your fascism is evident throughout
all of your posts on all blogsites that you haunt.

To answer your rather idiotic last question, it is better not to fight them at all. Its better to create the America that for once lives up to the promise for all it's own citizens, become a caring, humane, and fair country, defeat corruption, and become an example to the world of the positive aspects of humanity. Provide a decent quality of life for all who live in her, and become something other countries would emulate. This would do far more to defeat extremism than your rather sociopathic and just as extremist approach of "kill 'em all, cause my interpretation of God said so"...

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Brian:

Your refusal to answer question is because you do not like the
answers.

What words have I wrote that convict me of what?

What standard do you use to label me as a fascist?

Why is being a devout Christian being a fascist, you hate monger?

You say "To answer your rather idiotic last question, it is better not to fight them at all."

Idiot: There is no choice. You know nothing of Jihadism.

That being the case the where is the best place to fight the Jihadist idiot?

You I said: "This would do far more to defeat extremism than your rather sociopathic and just as extremist approach of "kill 'em all, cause my interpretation of God said so"..."

Where did I say to “kill them all" butt head?

I didn't say that.

Pervert

Why have you not spoken out against the religious sect’s murders, rapes, and mutilation Christian women and girls in Africa?

Why not pervert?

Why don't you answer these questions?

I tell you why. It is because to answer them shows you to be stupid plus a liar.

A fool lacks sensible answers.

A liar is the scum of the manure pit.

Brian:

To correct typos.

Idiot: There is no choice. You know nothing of Jihadism.

That being the case then where is the best place to fight the Jihadist idiot?

You said I said: "This would do far more to defeat extremism than your rather sociopathic and just as extremist approach of "kill 'em all, cause my interpretation of God said so"..."

Where did I say to “kill them all" butt head?

Now let me ask you why you support the murder of Christians? Your hate-monging rhetoric is almost exactly why millions of Christians have been murdered and why they are being murdered by your friends today.

I can give you case and point if you wish. I will do something you won’t do because of your damnable lies.

To Mr. Ebbarn
Since you insist...

Like you, the Fascist movement in Italy was convinced that its' world view was the only correct one, and that they were best qualified to judge what was best for their society, democracy be damned.

Like Adolph Hitler you are only too ready to condemn a whole group of people as scapegoats for the ills of your country, and more than willing to carry out mass murder to achieve his goal of world domination. Your Muslims are his Jews...

Unlike you, I, and most of the world, including Muslims do not believe that some kind of war is inevitable, ("kill "em all) unless we allow people with your intolerance to dominate discussion. The vast majority of people of all religious stripes worldwide are even now engaged in discussions regarding how to eliminate, or at least diminish the effects of extremism, while you and your ilk seem to be only interested in continuing, even escalating conflict.

It has long been proven that poverty is the most fertile ground for extremism of all types, and that international corruption is one of the main causes of poverty. We are working to alleviate poverty, which will stop giving motivation to extremists, this is why I constantly cite corruption as our greatest problem.

You, on the other hand, seem to ignore and/or deny the existence of corruption, and frequently posit that it is some ethnic trait or religious deficiency of the people that causes the problem, this is the racism of the most ignorant and virulent kind

You at least began to admit, however begrudgingly, as you wrote,"Now I grant that the intelligence and interpretation of the evidence that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction was faulty and even somewhere in the Bush administration faulty. At some point there seemed to be misrepresentations at some level"

Knowing this, your line seems to be "as long as we're over there anyway, let's turn it into a religious war, and settle this problem for good"

If you admit that mistakes were made, then why not get out of Iraq, and account to the American people just who caused their sons and daughters to die? A crime has been committed here, that has resulted in the unnecessary death of countless innocents, as Bush said, "On my orders..." the buck stops where?

You quote Bible and say that Jesus was about divine love, and all the rest, then preach death and destruction to further your religious intolerance in the same postings, who is the real pervert?

As for condemnation of murder in Africa, only the insane would condone such. I am not insane, as you believe, I simply posit that before we comment on the mote in our neighbors eye, we should at least remove the stone from our own.

To Mr.Ebbarn
After the tsunami(you do know what that is, yes?)I was involved in the rebuilding of Aceh, the Indonesian province affected. I raised funds through concerts, and was on the ground helping distribute relief supplies. I also helped install computer networks to better coordinate efforts, and even layed brick for a new elementary school.

Aceh is known here as "little Mecca" because of the very conservative Islamic nature of the people. They know full well that I am not a Muslim, as I am rather well known throughout Indonesia for my work with top artists.

Everywhere I went, I was welcomed, invited to dine with people who were living in refugee tents, and barely had enough food for themselves. Never once did I even hear whispers of anti west, or anti Christianity. One question that was occasionally asked of me was "Why does Bush hate Muslims?" Notice that I did not say "why does America hate Muslims", or "why do Christians hate Muslims"...

The overwhelming majority of world Islam does not hate Americans, nor do they hate Christians, They do, however take righteous exception to pseudo-Christians like you calling them evil, and advocating war on them solely for the sake of their religion, and just like (maybe) you, they will die in defense of the religion of their choice.

To Mr. Ebbarn
But not passively...

to Mr.Ebbarn
As I posted on another site,the religious pimps of Islam, and the religious pimps of Christianity need the conflict as a means to solicit money from gullible followers. The religious pimps in Islam take hate speech from religious pimps of Christianity like you, and show it as proof of Christian hostility. You are, in fact, one of radicalism's best friends...

Brian:

I am not indicating all Muslims are involved in terror. About 20% of the Muslim religion falls into the Fundamental Jihadist camp. These 20% are so violent, even against other Muslims; there is a strong possibility of their dominating the Islamic political landscape. I personally am very certain they will dominate the Islamic political landscape.

There was the attack against the United States in the bombings in Beirut where United States soldiers died.

There are several attacks on United States embassies by Muslim extremists.

There was the first bombing of the World Trade center.

There was the bombing of the USS Cole.

There was the attempted assassination of the senior President Bush in Kuwait.

There was the flying of planes into the World Trade Center where 3,000 innocent people from around the world died.

All these attacks were unprovoked.

There have been no such attacks since the United States invaded Afghanistan and Iraq. The attacks have been against United States military, but more so other Muslims which are call “soft targets”.

“Soft target” attacks are the acts of evil cowards.

I know that 80% of the Muslim population is not directly involved, but they are largely passive not taking sides vehemently against the Jihadists. I also know the liberal and moderate Imams know the principle of Jihad whether they teach it to their followers of not. If they do not so know, then I would either question their ability as an Imam or simply conclude they are lying. From my perspective the more likely conclusion is they are lying.

I think the tsunami in Indonesia had a calming effect within the country. On some islands Christians were being killed or forced from their homes and the country under threat of death.

Now the following is just plain sick.

Before the tsunami three Christian school girls were decapitated and their bloodied heads dumped in nearby villages. Their names were Theresia Morangke and Yarni Sambue, both 15, and 17-year-old Alfita Poliwo. The murderers were linked to the al-Qaeda Jemaah Islamiah network and they left a handwritten note close to the bodies, vowing more killings to avenge the deaths of Muslims in earlier sectarian violence on Sulawesi Island. ‘Wanted – 100 more heads, Blood must be paid with blood, lives with lives, and heads with heads.’

A fourth girl in the attack, Noviana Malewa, then 15, received serious injuries to her face and neck, but survived. After the attack, Noviana suffered damaged nerves, a dislocated lower jaw and loosened teeth. VOMedical provided reconstructive surgery to repair nerve damage and reduce scarring.

This attack is the act of evil cowards.

Here is part of a news release on the sectarian violence in Sulawesi Island:

"Sectarian violence raises its ugly face"

by Bhimanto Suwastoyo (AFP, May 31, 2005)

Nathalia Timparosa, a survivor of Saturday's bomb blast, wipes her eyes during a funeral service for her mother Nggau Timparosa in Sulawesi island's Christian-dominated town of Tentena yesterday. Whether the work of shadowy Islamic extremists from outside the region or local agitators, a deadly bombing on Indonesia's Sulawesi will unravel months of painstaking effort to reconcile warring Christians and Muslims on the island, community leaders say.

Two bombs exploded minutes apart in a busy market place in the predominantly Christian town of Tentena early Saturday, killing 20 people and leaving more than 50 injured.”

I Googled the Sulawesi violence event, but the return was massive. I am assuming that there was some sort of “christian” atrocities or at least the Jihadists were claiming so, but if so they were not true Christians. They were fakes. I did not have time to go past the beginning of the first article.

On the aftermath of the tsunami most of the first responders were from Christian organizations. I think this also served to lessen the hate-monging toward the Christian community in Indonesia. Indonesia was desperate for aid and the aid from the Christian community was truly appreciated. I do not know how long that will last. The radical Islamic Imams can not be expected to permanently stop spreading their messages of hate.

I do want to commend you for you assistance in the assistance of the victims of the tsunami. I could not go. I have health complications that prevent such for right now. I did send significant money though. You see Brian, if I had hated these people I would not have sent assistance, nor would their plight have reduced me to tears several times. I know what death is more than most people. One of the most dominate events in my life was holding and comforting one of my friends as she bled on me dying with no hope.

Islam is not only a religious system. It is a political system dedicated to eventual world dominance. The Fundamental Islamic extremists normally dominate the political arena. That means the 80% that are passive are prone to be dominated by the 20% that are aggressive. There are 1.3 billion Muslims in the world right now. That is already a lot of political clout and they are already exercising it where possible.

Like in Iraq, the extremists have exhibited unconcern for their wholesale murder of their own people. What kind of people are these to do such a thing, and it is all about political struggle. What if the United State pulls out? Will the Shiites seek to eliminated the Sunnis who they hate so much and out number? Will Saudi Arabia step in to defend the Sunnis has they have already indicated? Will Iran step in to defend the Shiites against a Sunni invasion? Will Syria join in to defend the Sunnis then? You see, the Islamists are their own worst enemy.

Hopefully the above scenario will not happen.

I have a job where I have to work. I am going to drop this discussion for right now except for one short blog.

Brian:

You wrote:

“As I posted on another site,the religious pimps of Islam, and the religious pimps of Christianity need the conflict as a means to solicit money from gullible followers. The religious pimps in Islam take hate speech from religious pimps of Christianity like you, and show it as proof of Christian hostility. You are, in fact, one of radicalism's best friends...”

Where is you empirical evidence that the Christian community needs this conflict to solicit money?

Where is you empirical evidence that the Islamic community needs this conflict to solicit money?

Quote my so-called hate speech. Please give day and time. Please give context.

Give a reason as to why I am “one of radicalism's best friends”. All you have is what I wrote to come to this conclusion. Please give day and time. Please give context.

What I am saying is give evidence, not continued senseless rambling.

Brian:

Are you using the tactics of the Islamic extremists in Iraq in your writings.

There are constant unwarranted and senseless attacks from all over for the purpose of simply overwhelming and wearing your opposition down on the assumption they will go away.

Oh Briany Boy:

I just got a question in my mind. This is related to your last post.

Do you agree that Muslims should murder Muslims or do you disagree that Muslims should murder Muslims?

To Mr ebbarn

You wrote,"I am not indicating all Muslims are involved in terror. About 20% of the Muslim religion falls into the Fundamental Jihadist camp"
Wrong, the numbers are more like 5%
there is a difference between conservative, even ultra conservative, and Jihad. Been eating too many Bushflakes for breakfast, methinks...

In Sulawesi, the violence that you assume is religious is, in fact none of the sort, the violence does happen, it does get quite nasty, but it is the usual Mafia-style bid to control a region rich in natural resources. Local politicioans as well as Australian and American corporations are also involved, each backing their guy. The "religious terrorism" label helps the warlords (who are also the politicians in Jakarta)and the international concerns divert attention from possible involvment, you and the wingnuts in the US buy it, cause it helps your agitprop. Been there, know better.

You ask, "Where is you empirical evidence that the Christian community needs this conflict to solicit money"
Pat Robertson, Billy Graham Jr. and reps from Oral Roberts all went on CNN during the agitprop for the murder campaign, claiming this was a war on Islam. You think they did it for free? They might be wingnuts, but they know opportunity when they see it, they have multi-megabuck mortgages to pay, ya know...

You write, "Give a reason as to why I am “one of radicalism's best friends”. All you have is what I wrote to come to this conclusion"
Yes, and all I have to do is hit "print" and I have hard copy to show to anyone I wish. If I can do it, the "radicals" can also, they know how to use the 'net as well as anyone, and yours is especially rich in calories.

You ask, "Do you agree that Muslims should murder Muslims or do you disagree that Muslims should murder Muslims?
Hello, knock knock anybody home? "Thou shalt not kill", Even though it happens, no one should murder anyone! Precisely my point, why are US soldiers continuing to do it in the name of the US, even though the reasons for going in in the first place were BS? We need to get out of there right now, and Bushco has to account for how misinformation allowed us to go kill and die needlessly. Staying longer and killing more Iraqis only worsens his crime, there is no "victory to be won, there was no "clear and present danger".

We've been over this time an again through this debate, c'mon, how about something original?