U.S. Mass Transit on Alert

May 03, 2006 9:29 AM

Richard Esposito Reports:

ABC News has learned that the Department of Homeland Security has alerted U.S. mass transit officials to "suspicious videotaping" of European rail systems that point to a continuing terrorist interest in targeting mass transit and "possible surveillance or pre-operational planning."

According to a short unclassified infrastructure security "private sector note" released Tuesday, May 2nd, DHS says a 17 minute hand held videotape by one foreign national detained in November in a major European city included footage of several stations, two routes and the interior of one "subway car." None of the footage was of tourist attractions. Information from a second suspicious videotaping, also in November 2005, was factored into the one page private sector note.

"Two incidents of suspicious videotaping of a European mass transit system in the last 120 days provide indications of continued terrorist interest in mass transit systems as targets, and potentially useful insight into terrorist surveillance techniques," DHS said.

The contents of the 17 minute tape that appeared suspicious included the recording of station signs from inside a moving train, shooting footage of the rail car and station platform ceilings and recording trash can and stairwell locations. This footage seems to mesh with known techniques and elements of prior casing reports of planned and executed terrorist plots including the London bombing and plots against the New York City subway system.

The Department of Homeland Security stresses that there is no specific or credible threat information at this time to suggest an an attack on U.S. rail systems, a spokesman said.

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I KNOW EVIL IS GETTING WORSE EVERYDAY,BUT I SOMETIME THINK THE NEWS IS A LOT OF DISINFORMATION,ITS GETTING TO THE POINT I DONT EVEN WATCH THE EVENING NEWS ANYMORE,ITS ALL A BUNCH OF LIES,BY AND FROM A BUNCH OF LYING WONDERS.!!!!

JOHANN DOHMANN

Posted by: JOHANN DOHMANN | May 3, 2006 11:43:16 AM

Maybe we should surrender now - maybe if we show them we mean them no harm they'll leave us alone! That worked after the first WTC attack didn't it?

Posted by: WJC | May 3, 2006 11:47:23 AM

Why get upset and why bother to even put up alerts!!!!
Jorge has open borders, represents
Mexico and allows illegals, including OTM's to "visit" us every day.
After awhile, one must get used to the idea that we will be blown to h--- under the mismanagement of Jorge Bush.
Eleven Iraqis have been cought at the Texas/Mexican border. How many more are here and have put in place wmd's or other shoe bombs, etc.
Are we really safe----what a joke. Jorge and his unethical crew have no credibility left!
I say this, as a woman, who voted for incompetant Jorge twice. Just think about what I could say as a Democrat!

Shirley Beckman

Posted by: Shirley Beckman | May 3, 2006 11:58:27 AM

Video-ing station signs? Rail car and station platform ceilings? Trash can and stairwell locations?

One must wonder on what pretext this squeaky-clean character was released, poor dear. No doubt Old Europe has its own societal-suicide activists vamping as civil-liberties lawyers.

Posted by: Tom Bright | May 3, 2006 12:11:22 PM

If they discovered this in November 2005, why are they just now releasing the information?

Seems pretty irresponsible . . .

Posted by: xebtron | May 3, 2006 12:13:01 PM

This is amazing. I live in Atlanta and take MARTA (our subway) to work. Last fall, I observed a middle eastern man videotaping the North Springs MARTA station which is in midtown. I contacted the Atlanta Police, who advised it was not their jurisdiction and the MARTA Police (who are worthless). At a later date, I even contacted Homeland Security's local office. No one was interested in this information and no investigation was done. When are people going to wake up to the fact that this country is in danger from terrorists. I believe people have already forgotten 9/11.

Posted by: Maggie Osborne | May 3, 2006 12:17:46 PM

NO, Duh!

I was on a bus in Manhattan almost two years ago and I saw a middle aged middle eastern man video taping the bus while it was stuck in traffic. This went on for ten minutes. I told the bus driver and the lazy bum was like "so what". I gave him my business card and begged him to tell his superiors, and that they should call me if there were questions. I'm still waiting for a call.

Posted by: JDGrove | May 3, 2006 12:23:59 PM

funny how this comes up as gas prices soar. WE ARE NOT THAT STUPID.

Posted by: bill | May 3, 2006 12:45:15 PM

Why does this article not mention which European city mass transportation system was on the video? I am in Italy and would really like to know!

Posted by: Kelly | May 3, 2006 12:46:22 PM

I think the gov't is overreacting. Let's secure our borders first, doing our best to keep out the terrorists, so that innocent tourists from Biloxi don't get tackled in Los Angeles subway terminals or bus depots for taking vacation pictures!

Posted by: Amelia | May 3, 2006 1:03:18 PM

BUt I'm sure that Brian Ross, citizen of the world with allegiance to no country, will see nothing of note here......

Posted by: dancing bears | May 3, 2006 1:03:30 PM

Everyone should check out Robert Spencer's JihadWatch.org Bottomline..Radical Islam actually believes they are going to create a world order based on the Koran.

Posted by: Daniel von Ulsterberg | May 3, 2006 1:24:41 PM

elections are in the offing, i.e. bird flu and terrorist threats.

Posted by: Irene Solnik | May 3, 2006 1:28:15 PM

We have no way of getting out of a subway platform if their is a danger in the system.I know, because I get off at fulton street stop on the IRT train #4 downtown in nyc everyday.It is one of the hardest places to get out. Please take a survey and find out how many other platforms have this problem. Then maybe they might fix the conjestion in the subway system.I know it will make me feel much safer If i could get out
a little quicker.Thanks for listening hey Richard, I think this is a good one for you...

Posted by: Paul | May 3, 2006 2:33:20 PM

Don't worry, the Feds continue to protect us and our highly vulnerable mass transit ifrastructure by installing cameras.... we'll have pictures of the evildoers after the next attack, while we are counting up those killed and injured.

Perhaps one day... some day, we'll get serious about profiling those who fit the bill as likely terrorist enemies and, simulatenously, take the fight to them outside the continental United States (CONUS).

Nah, instead we'll do what is easy and politically correct... damn the consequences. Come to think of it, just like we were pre- 9/11.

Posted by: Ted | May 3, 2006 2:44:20 PM

Sounds like it's time for another inside job. WAKE UP YOU PEOPLE!!

Posted by: Jimmy | May 3, 2006 2:50:33 PM

Here is a good place to research US Railroad Data:
http://safetydata.fra.dot.gov/OfficeofSafety/Default.asp

I worked (as a systems vendor)with Emergency Management Officials (State and Local)for many years, and I have gained an appreciation for what I believe is a greatly overlooked exposure we have regarding terrorism: Hazardous Materials traveling via our railways.

If you go to the url I have suggested, section 1.05 offers the ability to query accident data by railroad,state or region (or all) by date range.

In 2005 there were 3,136 Total Train accidents.

The "Number of train accidents that resulted in a release of hazardous materials" was stated at 36 or 1.15% of the total.

The "Number of persons evacuated" stated at 7,636.

The "Number of rail cars releasing hazmat" was stated at 49.

So, it's fine to look at mass transit, what is being done to mitigate threats to trains carrying hazmat? Have you ever heard of the "Dow Death Train" that runs from Louisiana to Michigan? That is a term offered up by Emergency Management Officials along that route!

Food for thought.

David Hale

Posted by: David Hale | May 3, 2006 2:54:22 PM

Next time you see some guy video taping an area walk up and ask him what he is doing. Call the police, or take a picture of him with your cell phone camera.

Posted by: John | May 3, 2006 2:55:11 PM

Take this seriously. Change your route, keep
your eyes open for suspicious characters doing things out of the ordinary. A tourist will take videos, but not standing there for ten minutes with the same subject.
Rather than attempt local yokals who don't care about anything other than their paycheck, call in to FBI all suspicious activity. That is what they are there for.
Look for subway systems stations with longer platforms or different lines with less crowding, hard in NYC or Atlanta or San Fran, but try. Just think safety and think where would a terrorist get most effect and avoid those places at all possible.
When you think about it, we really are soldiers also and the first line of defence for our nation as we can be watchfull and report to DHS, TSA or FBI activity that is suspicious. Be alert!

Posted by: Rob | May 3, 2006 2:57:26 PM

12,000,000 illegal aliens here? I wonder if at least1 hates Americans?

Posted by: Bob | May 3, 2006 2:59:10 PM

My parents will appreciate the do-nothing philosophy and cynism when my body is splattered about the inside of the train cars here in the Twin Cities. They'll be really glad we didn't overreact.

Posted by: Kevin from Minneapolis | May 3, 2006 3:00:47 PM

To those of you who read this story, its the tip of the iceburg. We are indeed at war, and have been for years, much to many of your disinterest.

To those of you who are part of the 70 percent who do not favor our President, go back to sleep, because you are nothing but a hindrance to national survival. It's pretty kewl to taunt and tease those of us who fight this war, isn't it...rather Berkleyesque affulent leftist, and consequence averse, neato;) Your attirude also emboldens the murderous enemy who has told you repeatedly they will destroy this country.

To those of you who have demonstrated ad finitum in public about Bush and his supposed lies- where were you when during Clinton, the bloodletting of Americans continued to mount from terrorism with no appreciable response, an underfunded, undersupported, marginalized and truncated intelligence community?

There were no demands to know why American blood was being shed with no confrontation; no human rights groups or ACLU interrogatories.

My friends have died in this war and to the well insulated, overfed and overstimulated, distant and typically arrogant alleged American who connects gas prices with the news story, gobble another hot pocket and go watch Simpsons, because you're useless to those of us who are fighting this war with little concern of our countrymen, much less outright lying about national security and blaming the President.

Posted by: VMN | May 3, 2006 3:00:58 PM

WHERE did this take place? Its quite irritating when the media fails to name the city.

Posted by: Sully | May 3, 2006 3:15:49 PM

When is our gov't going to start being proactive towards terrorism vs. reactive. Seems to be the going trend

Posted by: Jay | May 3, 2006 3:20:54 PM

REMEBER THE ALAMO! Send the Mexicans back where they belong!!!

Posted by: Die Spiner | May 3, 2006 3:22:20 PM

well now maybe our illustrious Congressional types could actually make it a Federal crime to photograph or videotape any property or facilities which receive federal mass transit funds, so that such activities can be clearly known as illegal, and require states to have such laws on their books in order to qualify for US mass transit funds (and the Right Honrable Congresswoman McKinney from Georgia could introduce such a law, using the Atlanta reports as her justification unless she is too busy slugging capitol hill cops

Posted by: dave | May 3, 2006 3:23:08 PM

If we are on alert, why is there no check or suitcases or luggage when boarding AMTRAK and METRO?

Posted by: Steve Frasher | May 3, 2006 3:27:01 PM

No, things are really safe now. My brother has been put on some list somewhere because his name is too common. So everytime he flies he has to wait in the long lines to check in at the counter (no self-check, no online check-in). See, so they are really focused on finding the terrorists, with really common US names.

Posted by: JM | May 3, 2006 3:27:43 PM

DAMN Political correctness and DAMN the ACLU... Congress should dare them to sue and go ahead with profiling - either that or we will pay with another 9-11. Wake up America !!

Posted by: Paul | May 3, 2006 3:36:43 PM

Just waiting for terrorists to show up in Houston, take one look at the METRO Light Rail, and walk away laughing.

Posted by: Laurence Simon | May 3, 2006 3:41:25 PM

There is no such thing as homeland "security". There is nothing secure about our homeland

Posted by: Pamela | May 3, 2006 3:46:42 PM

When will people actually wake up and see all of this for what it is?

So, what, now we don't have the freedom to videotape things in this country? I am sorry, but mass transit is an interesting thing. I live in Los Angeles and take the train and bus every day. I have, for my own personal photo album, taken photos inside the subway train. Does this make me a suspect? Does this make all train enthusiasts terrorists? Hardly.

People, please realize something, if you are willing to give up your freedom to videotape public sites in this country because you're scared of the boogey man, then you don't deserve your freedom in the first place.

Stop being so darn scared. You're playing right into the hands of the media. Why did they release this info now? Because it's convenient. Maybe people are starting to be a little less scared. Maybe that scares the powers that be.

Things aren't always what they seem. Open your eyes.

Posted by: Chuch | May 3, 2006 3:58:48 PM

These reports are worrisome, to say the least. Note, however, that taking picture or videotaping government buildings and mass transit is not illegal (contrary to claims often made by uniformed officers in D.C.--noted and determined false by the Washington Post). As private citizens, we must simply remain vigilant in reporting these activities for further investigation to the proper authorities. We'll learn more by following these suspicious types than by going beyond the law to arrest them on the spot.

Posted by: Gary | May 3, 2006 4:01:45 PM

Security cameras taking "pictures of the evildoers after the next attack?" Not likely!! Both the evildoers and the cameras are going to vaporize in the next attack.

Posted by: Paddy Farris | May 3, 2006 4:03:55 PM

We haven't had an attack in almost 5 yrs. We can protect and apply all the prevention methods we have available, but it is impossible for one not to slip through. Terror attacks are now part of our lives.

Posted by: Mercedes | May 3, 2006 4:07:03 PM

Next time you see one video taping walk up to them and take their picture with your cell phone. Don't be shy. Then email it off to the FBI.

Posted by: Ray | May 3, 2006 4:08:01 PM

As an art student, I used to take pictures of mundane places like the stairwell of a subway platform, or the converging tracks of a line. I found the images visually arresting. Now I realize that I would probably be the one to get arrested for even drawing a picture of these scenes!

Posted by: Eli | May 3, 2006 4:08:14 PM

Some of you peopls posting comments on here scare the $#@$#@ out of me. Quit thinking everything is political! Even if it is, it is better to be safe than sorry!I agree with Paul. We need to start profiling ASAP. If they don't like it then leave!

Posted by: Ronnie K | May 3, 2006 4:16:51 PM

I got locked on a subway platform in Philly a couple months ago after mid-night and the last train had left. Called SEPTA police twice and nobody came to see what two people could be up to at 1 in the morning. It was very discouraging. If we had been terrorists, we could have done a lot of damage since nobody seemed interested in letting us out for hours.

Posted by: heather | May 3, 2006 5:00:49 PM

To the woman in Atlanta observing the MARTA videotaping.....

Do you really think a terrorist is going to bomb an Atlanta subway station? NY, DC, Boston, Philly, or Chicago, yes. But Atlanta? No way!

This is just all political hype to get people nervous about taking mass transit, thus putting more $$ in the pockets of the oil companies.

Posted by: NYGabriel | May 3, 2006 5:04:05 PM

Amazing! I agreed WHOLEHEARTEDLY with every single one of these posts. Now if all 9 of us average American Citizens can see the obvious, when will the government start doing something about it? Close the Borders, Enforce our existing laws, and as far as profiling- if it's a Middle Eastern man(suicide bomber) between the age of 25-45 we are looking for why would we look for anyone else ???

Posted by: Mel | May 3, 2006 5:05:45 PM

Well said Ted. And Bill, yes we are that stupid. Or at least our "responsible" political leaders are. Between the southern border stampede and our timid approach to national security we are set up nicely for another disaster. Why is it that when the time of real crisis comes it is always Joe Citizen who has to carry the load that the Constitution madates for the Federal Govt? I am sick of their incompetence.

Posted by: John | May 3, 2006 5:07:59 PM

I'm always amazed when people think the government has a way of protecting us from evil doers without instituting some type of martial law which, of course, none of us want. The government is reactionary, and only proactive in the lip service it can pay to an issue in an attempt to provide the appearance of "homeland defense" so that we do not panic and begin killing each other over the last supply of water, duct tape and plastic sheeting. If you want to survive the next strike, which has likely been planned and set in motion by sleeper cells planted in this country long ago, learn to be self sufficient and provide your family with the survival tools needed to outlast a sustained threat. If you're waiting for the government to rescue you, you may have to do so from the inside of a body bag.

Posted by: Peter | May 3, 2006 5:08:06 PM

The biggest terrorist we all need to fear is Bush. It wouldn't surprise me at all to learn that Bush was behind the WTC bombings. I remember thinking at the time, Bush was the only one who profited.

Posted by: bob hall | May 3, 2006 5:10:14 PM

I definitely agree with xebtron that 9-11 has already been forgotten, sad as it is.

Also, I wish they wouldn't simply say a "major european city" mass-transit system and actually say which country. I would appreciate it since I am in Rome for the semester and use their system every day!

Posted by: Kelly | May 3, 2006 5:12:04 PM

I think someone should start a web page dedicated to suspicious activities. A place where we can post our own video and photos.

Posted by: Scott | May 3, 2006 5:12:07 PM

why do i keep reading articles such as this one without reading a single one about stopping this sort of thing. i'm all for tourism but why would you be taping trash cans unless you have an 'interest' in them.

Posted by: jeff | May 3, 2006 5:16:24 PM

Nah, instead we'll do what is easy and politically correct... damn the consequences. Come to think of it, just like we were pre- 9/11.

Can you feel the complacency? Me too. We were asleep at the wheel the last time, literally and figuratively. What's going to be the government's excuse the next time something blows up? And why is it that every time I get on an airplane, little white old disabled ladies above the age of 70 are getting shaken down by TSA reps? Made to sit down, taking off their shoes, handing over their canes and walkers for further examination. Meanwhile, my body is loaded down with more equipment than the first men who walked on the moon. Laptop, cell phone, battery chargers, metal external CD-ROM drive, regular modem, network modem, all kinds of cabies, and they don't even want me to take off my jacket! God help us all when the next big one hits. Nobody is paying attention.

Posted by: Amelia | May 3, 2006 5:25:41 PM

I can't even begin to describe how disappointed I am with the citizens of this country when I read these comments. If any of you bothered to read the statistics about the complete and utter failures profiling has produced in the past you would know that it is a waste of money, efforts and resources. Moreover, it detracts from our ability to actually find credible intelligence. For example, the madatory registration of all Arab men in New York post 9/11 resulted in ... ZERO arrests and ZERO people of interest.

I wasnt aware that having civil liberties and constitutional guarantees only applied if you were white. Maybe we should intern all the Arabs like we did the Japanese during World War II. The attitude here disgusts me.

Posted by: Wow | May 3, 2006 5:39:02 PM

I took pictures of a bridge in Little Rock, Arkansas. Under the brideg to be exact. I just like bridges. This does NOT make me a terrorist. But I could not feel that someone would report this. No one did. I think Homeland "Security" over reacts to EVERYTHING. So my feeling is, Osama has already won because if H.S. even SEE a package in an airpot THEY SHUTDOWN THE AIRPORT. GET A GRIP!

Posted by: Russ | May 3, 2006 5:46:56 PM

I think that criminalizing the hobby of watching trains does in no way protect us from terrorists.

Posted by: Mike | May 3, 2006 5:49:49 PM

Thanks, Ray...

That's the common sense approch we need...I will be ready with cell phone..

Posted by: paul | May 3, 2006 5:56:42 PM

Sounds like the East European and Soviet intelligence agents that used to "fish" with weighted and marked lines, minus fish hooks, off bridges and river banks all over West Europe during the Cold War. I'm sure they were just innocent tourists who found the depths and widths of river along potential invasion routes endlessly fascinating as well.
Remember, the price of freedom, liberty, and security is eternal vigilance!

Posted by: al | May 3, 2006 5:58:53 PM

The information released is supposed to help me how? I'm in the 3rd largest city in the US- Chicago. We house the largest skyscraper in the country, The Sears Tower. Everyday as I pass it by on my way to work, I wonder WHEN it will be hit... I take public transportation nearly everyday and now I'm supposed to 'be on the lookout for suspicious activity?' Chicago has one of the most segregated immigrant communities in the country. Meaning everyday I travel with Middle Eastern commuters, and many other nationalities. This is my point- Our borders and the INS need to evolve. This is the 21st century. No longer are we in a time where our enemy wears a uniform. We are a country that hardly understands unconventional war. This is the age of disguise. Our enemy wears no uniform, and only goal is to kill as many innocents as possible. They consider the death of an innocent much more valuable than the death of a soldier.
Profiling can work in some cases- however I believe the investment of securing our borders- securing our airports, and sending Illegals home should be our main focus. Many of the 9/11 hijackers were living within the US before the attack. If we can't control who comes and goes within our borders, we will never avoid a second attack. When the Sears Tower is burning, maybe people will not think of profiling as a civil liberty gone bad, but instead as a plausible reason for suspicion. Since the early 80's nearly every terrorist attack against the US has been carried out by a Middle Easterns. That is a huge statistic and should undoubtably be fore front in our suspicion... This isn't the slave days- we are not profiling people as less than human, and beneath us- which I say was one of America's lowest points. We are profiling humans who are more likely to commit terrorism, because statisticly speaking, men of Middle Eastern Decent have been our biggest contributer to terrorist events. Civil liberties for terrorists should never be considered.

Posted by: Aaron Hope | May 3, 2006 6:04:18 PM

Hmm, I always have my camera out and like to film train stations, and I am of Arab descent. Boogidy boo!

Posted by: Ben Jabituyah | May 3, 2006 6:11:45 PM

Why is the NYC transit system DUMB enough to have trash cans that aren't see through? Such a simple idea like see-through trash cans seems to have escaped them.

I'm tired of the right wing declaring themselves our safe keepers when they refuse to take real action to protect us...inspecting incoming shipments to our ports is TOO EXPENSIVE??? Our safety is too expensive? The Kurds safety seems to be worth our billions of tax dollars (and thousands of soldiers' lives)

Posted by: Ryan | May 3, 2006 6:15:38 PM

C'mon, get wise! The Cabal is just trying to keep the fear factor going so they will have an excuse to take away our freedoms bit by bit. They do the same thing with the flug bug scare every year. It's also big money for their pocketbooks when we buy into those fears with our money for security and flu shots.

Posted by: Moose | May 3, 2006 6:20:22 PM

"Expect the Unexpected" is the watchword.
Oklahoma City was caused by a "Regular American White Guy", 9-11 by Kamikaze extremists using a methodology thst only Tom Clancy foresaw.
Its not what you see, but what you don't see that is the issue.

Posted by: J Alan Crumbaker | May 3, 2006 6:53:06 PM

Look, it's not about the GOP or the DNC or any of the political pundits. They all have a single agenda-get votes. Our political system has been that way for years and it's only getting worse. Pandering is the norm for both parties. Many of these posts hit the mark. It is up to average joe (like it or not) to take the responsiblity to protect his homeland and family by being vigilant and aware of what's going on around him. Too many of us go through our everyday lives totally blind to the world around them. We all see evidence of that in our daily commutes. I'm not saying to be suspicious of everyone or even of just Muslims. Just be aware of what is going on around you, even if you don't catch a terrorist, a possible result could be that we start to recognize each other as countymen again and stand united for the sake of being united. And who could bring us to our knees then?

Posted by: dave | May 3, 2006 7:15:45 PM

I can't beleive some of these comments. Heaven forbid a brown person take pictures of anything. This kind of stuff makes me sick to think I chose to live in this country. Xenophobes.

Posted by: someone | May 3, 2006 7:30:13 PM

Bureaucratic incompetence. I am a very pale white male with a full beard. I don't look anything like someone from the middle east. Long before 9-11, I had to quit taking plane trips, because every time I went to the airport, they would pull me aside for brief questioning and a search. Morons. Incompetent buffoons. I doubt you could ever get them to follow a screening profile intelligently. I have yet to hear of a hijacking in which the weapons used were nail clippers and knitting needles. Am I the only one who sees how utterly stupid these policies are? Is this supposed to make me feel safe? If anything, this has the opposite effect. I'm convinced that they don't know what they are doing. I will continue to boycott the airline industry until evidence of 'intelligent design' appears in their policies.

Posted by: marsh113 | May 3, 2006 7:51:20 PM

Once the entire human population of earth is microchipped and surveilled by super computers 24/7 we will live in a terrorism free utopia. Demand that the government chip you. Demand that they place cameras in your homes, cars, dog houses, and parakeet cages--everywhere. We need microphone and camera protection ASAP. Anyone caught filiming anything should be taken to the local Haliburton concentration camp immediately. We have left ourselves open to attacks because stupid ideas like trial by jury, the 1st amendment, the 4th amendment, and equal protection under the law have clouded our judgement. The Homeland needs to make sacrifices. The Homeland must be secure!

Posted by: Sean | May 3, 2006 7:54:48 PM

Should we duct-tape ourselves into our safe rooms during this election-inspired (yellow/orange/red) alert?

Posted by: Budge | May 3, 2006 8:03:09 PM

Next time you see one video taping walk up to them and take their picture with your cell phone. Don't be shy. Then email it off to the FBI.

That's an awesome idea. Something so simple but yet not something people would jump on right away

Posted by: Anne | May 3, 2006 8:03:48 PM

If/When they finally release some ricin gas in a subway station in NYC, I guarenty it will be at a popular station where they have those stupid huge turnstiles that only one person can exit at a time... and it takes forever (as a previous poster mentioned).

That alone will kill some number of extra people.

Yes, an invetigative reporter could make quite a story and potentially save lives if they pushed on this a little bit.

Posted by: Steve | May 3, 2006 8:19:20 PM

You are correct, we need to complete the profile of every terrorist with a camera...or is that every citizen with a camera, or both

Posted by: buster | May 3, 2006 8:32:26 PM

Wow, in all these posting all I see is a society overloaded with fear. What did our former president say, "The only thing we have to fear is fear itself."

Posted by: dug | May 3, 2006 8:53:15 PM

OK, so how hard would it be to move the trash cans around on random occasions? Do it at other locations where people gather too. Don't need to be paranoid about this, just not lazy.

Posted by: John | May 3, 2006 9:04:41 PM

Land of the free and home of the brave.

Not if you read this thread. Terrorists do not frighten me. I am going to die someday whether or not it is at the hand of a terrorist or government spook is of no concern to me. I will live my life as a free man. If you want to give up your liberty for some illusion of security then so be it but don't tread on me. Live free or die!

Posted by: raoul | May 3, 2006 9:16:17 PM

Police and private security companies
already are trained in profiling. There is no need to worry about sketching subway platforms, taking pics with your digital camera, etc.
Any investigation of you would be short-lived. It is behind-the-scenes
work of police and security which catch the terrorist in the early stages of their game, as is the case here in Europe. Good job.

Posted by: Shaker | May 3, 2006 9:35:43 PM

After years of searching for Bin Ladin, it is still a priority to catch or kill this very determined individual… and his friends and associates…. This group of terrorists is a many-headed serpent. If Bin Ladin is killed, another head will pop up. We need to concentrate more on getting to the root of the problem; Places like Iran and North Korea. Face it; the democratic leadership (if you can call it that) has badmouthed the war with Iraq and our President from the very start. Their behavior has emboldened our enemies. Our enemies enjoy the “Divided States of America” and feed upon it.

Yes, we have slipped back into pre 911 mentalities.
Bush went after the terrorists and terrorist nations as advertised. Is it a total coincidence, that we have not suffered further attacks at home?
We are the folks that stopped our President in his tracks, not Bin Ladin. Our own politicians and their radical beliefs (from the far left or far right) are just as dangerous as other threats to a free “United States of America”. We as American’s have a responsibility to get radical nuts-jobs out of government, here and abroad. Until such time, there will be no peace.

Remember the folks that lost their lives on 911. It was an attack on you and your loved ones. Remember and honor them and our military people that sacrificed their lives while protecting our rights and lives. Remember the politicians that badmouthed our country and President during a time of war. Remember the politicians in majority and minority that refuse to protect our country and boarders.

Posted by: Joe G | May 3, 2006 9:56:02 PM

Without question the United States will be hit within a few months. Whether this is more Republican wag the dog I don't know, but one thing I know is when Bush wants to attack a nation, we either get attacked or there are "threats".

Summer '06 will be a bloody one and the blood isn't only on the Muslims hands. Bush is just as much at fault.

Why so much Bird Flu talk? Its almost as if the gov't will just let it spread. Where's the H5N1 vaccine? 200 people have died from this since 2003. Wouldn't you think instead of freaking people out they'd start production of a vaccine?

Bush will probably blame it on Iran.

Posted by: Dave | May 3, 2006 10:40:11 PM

Now you know how people in Israel feel every day...

Posted by: Donald J. Escamillo | May 3, 2006 10:53:47 PM

Rail Fans photogrph anything that have to do with any type of railroads.

I took many videoes in the 1990s in Germany, Italy, Britian and Swiserland.

I even took a few in the USA for comparision. The Euros had us beat hands down in the quality, speed, comfort and reliability in their passenger rail network.

German trains were always on time (within 2 mins). Amtrak trains are almost always late, often by hours.

The biggest terrorist who is messing up our rail system is G W BUSH who gives hundreds of millions in subsidies to roads and air lines and is refusing to allocate a mere million to Amtrak.

The terrorists destroying our rail systems are not in the subways but in the Whitehouse and Capital Hill.

Posted by: Al | May 3, 2006 11:04:29 PM

This warning is stupid. Why doesn't Homeland security declare wearing shoes a potential threat, afterall, there could be a fuse connected to something sinister in the sole!

Have you ever seen pics of the Moscow subways? What would be a crime would be if pictures taken of those were never shared with the rest of the world!

Trains, light-rail systems, and subways... fascinate many many people. They are called train buffs! Train buffs film stuff and they take pictures of everything having to do with systems... from the subway station details of the benches and trash cans, to the floor and ceiling tiles. Yes, they also take pictures of maps plastered to the inside of subway trains.

And it doesn't just include subway buffs... it includes everyone in the industry. They take pictures to document things... their trip, ideas they can take home and maybe replicate, or maybe just to show to friends.

Just because they have middle eastern descent in them doesn't mean they are taking pictures for preparations to blow it up! How ignorant to forward a warning to mass transit systems!!! Ignornant ignorant ignorant!

If these videos were soooooo threatening, why don't they make them available for the public to view and make a decision for ourselves!

Posted by: Brandon Farley | May 3, 2006 11:21:12 PM

I wish the DHS had nabbed all those people video taping trash cans and such. Then maybe all the horrible bombings that the country has suffered recently wouldn't have happened.

Oh wait, nothing has happened.

Nevermind.

Posted by: Fred | May 3, 2006 11:47:32 PM

The Gov. wants something to happen....more pork belly spending and more citizen control. That is the only way to explain their behavior.

Posted by: s.f. | May 4, 2006 12:31:42 AM

Why not start addressing the problem of illegals in this country with a national id card for all people in this country based on retina or thumb print? You cannot fake someone's retina, whereas I hear illegals can pick a social security number at random and use it with inpunity. If everyone, not just Hispanics or Arabs, had to have a valid id based on a personal match with a database maintained by the Govt in order to get a job, rent an apartment, open a bank account, etc., then we could eventually weed out a lot of the potential troublemakers flooding into our country. I believe we need to legitimize the illegal Hispanics, so they can provide their useful services, and have a measure of protection, and pay taxes, etc., and I just don't understand why this idea of a national id card isn't a no brainer. We already have a national id card of sorts in the driver's license, but all a terrorist or illegal has to do is come to North Carolina, for one state, and easily get one. A national id card based on characteristics that can't be falsified would also eliminate most identify theft, as well as bring a lot of deadbeat fathers out in the open. Only the dishonest would need fear a national id card. Why not? Why the pointless arguments about sending 10 million people back to Mexico (or wherever) or making them citizens, or whatever. All we really want to know is who is in this country and why. If illegal Hispanic can't get a job here, most won't come. Ken

Posted by: Ken | May 4, 2006 1:10:40 AM

I feel so safe with "the decider" who "decides things" protecting us in the white house. This is a man who doesn't understand the difference between running the modern Western world into decline and playing a game of Risk on his Super Nintendo, but you gotta love him regardless.

Posted by: The Decider | May 4, 2006 2:13:01 AM

I find it very sad that Americans can be feared like those who posted comments in this blog. Why is it not surreal in Orwellian ways to wonder why one poster here suggests taking pictures with our cell phones of those taking pictures, and then send pictures to FBI. Why, I thought we were all so safe with all the spy cameras all the establishments have installed. Maybe we should also take pictures using our cell phones of the surveillance cameras taking pictures of us. And talk about pure racist talk in this forum, "oh, a Middle Eastern looking guy was taking pictures." Sounds like you have been FEARED very well. What if we were saying "it looks like a Jew taking pictures in the subway or at Disneyland" or "a Hispanic" or "a African-American." I not an Arab or Middle Easterner, but feel these poor people needs some ~SANE~ Americans to stand up for them, even in the middle of our occupation of one of their countries--Iraq, where we engaged an amoral war on them with not even any success as defined by our own president who lied to us.

So, what are you going to do, profile me next, profile me for expressing an honest and sane opinion? It seems to me, some of the posters here need serious mental attention as they become herded into the mob-FEAR mentality of taking pictures of people taking pictures, and they live in FEAR because Department of Homeland Security has told them to. If you need more in going on in your life, you can watch the color terror alerts change colors.

Darren


Posted by: Darren | May 4, 2006 2:24:35 AM

You're all missing the point.
Every day you get into your big SUV which is responsible for funding the following:
a) our wonderful giant corporations which control the media & government.
b) the oil shiekhs which are in cahoots with them and support the "terrorists."
c) higher gas prices by buying more gas & thus creating higher demand for the already very scarce good.
d) pollution, anyone?

Our War on Terror isn't about fighting anyone in particular, it's about creating fear in our country -- which used to be democratic, now is controlled by small number -- large corporations, corrupt bureaucracies, and bribed politicians. (campaign contributions???)

Meanwhile the economy is on the decline and Russia and China is on the rise. Good job, you scared scared sheep :)

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