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14 Countries Part of CIA's Global 'Spider Web' Says Investigator
June 07, 2006 2:40 PM
Fourteen European countries were part of the global "spider web" used by the CIA to secretly transfer terrorism suspects, according to a new report released today.
Dick Marty, the Swiss investigator for the Council of Europe, said in his report that seven council member states could be held responsible for human rights violations.
"It is now clear… that authorities in several European countries actively participated with the CIA in these unlawful activities. Other countries ignored them knowingly, or did not want to know," said. Mr. Marty who released his findings in Paris earlier today.
Marty said it is possible that the rights of specific suspects were violated in Sweden, Bosnia and Herzegovina, the United Kingdom, Italy, the former Yugoslav Republic of Macedonia, Germany and Turkey.
Several more countries colluded, actively or passively, in the detention or transfer of unknown persons, he said.
ABC News reported last year that Romania and Poland were two of the countries that had allegedly housed terror suspects. The Polish Minister of Defense, at the time, denied that any secret prisons were in his country. Marty's report concluded that both Poland and Romania housed prisoners at secret detention centers.
Marty also added that 'staging points' for the CIA flights were located in Germany, Turkey, Spain and Cyprus. He cited that the illegal flights transporting prisoners also made stops in the UK, Ireland, Portugal, Greece and Italy.
While Marty faults the U.S. for creating "this reprehensible network," he also faults the European countries for their "intentional and grossly negligent collusion," adding that the claim that Europe was a victim of secret CIA plots "does not seem to correspond to reality."
This afternoon, a spokesman for the U.S. State Department dismissed the report's findings. "I think that we're certainly dissappointed in the tone and the content of it," said Sean McCormack. "There seem to be a lot of allegations but no real facts behind it."
Read the full report on the Council of Europe's website.
June 7, 2006 in CIA, CIA Secret Prisons | Permalink | User Comments (32)
I think it is high time that ABC News STOPS! reporting such information. We are at war and ABC is telling the enemy top secret information. ABC is putting the military in denager everytime they report such information, also putting other nations in danger when they list them as they did in this report. ABC is out to start trouble or killing our beloved military. Who gets the heat from all this our goverment and military. ABC you are no loyal Americans. This is treasion.
Posted by: Dan | Jun 7, 2006 4:14:15 PM
Congratulations to all who have supported this "reprehensible network" as they are so correctly described. You will get your just desserts handed to you mostly in just "deserts" you like to crawl in nowadays. Put a moron in your "whitewash house" and guess what the trickle down theory will be. Ann Coulter for President in 2008 sounds inviting, doesn't it?
Posted by: frodaddy | Jun 7, 2006 5:09:09 PM
I hope those that exposed this crime are given congressional medals of honor. This is not whistleblowing, this is defending freedom and democracy.
Posted by: Jeff Sarbak | Jun 7, 2006 5:44:33 PM
Neither war nor terrorism excuses America under the leadership of George W. Bush from engaging in its own form of terrorism. Thank you ABC for having the courage to report the truth even though many may not like to hear it.
Posted by: Pat Kelly | Jun 7, 2006 5:51:31 PM
Why would ABC News put our troops at risk with such an irresponsible story? We are in the middle of a war! The specific locations detailed in this story are not necessary to convey the point. Perhaps at a later date this could be shared? Unbelievable, ABC!
Posted by: John | Jun 7, 2006 5:52:54 PM
Good investigative work and yet another sign (as if we needed any more) that this administration is the most criminal in history.
Posted by: Fiyero | Jun 7, 2006 5:56:04 PM
It is not treasonous to report the truth. If ABC got ahold of this information they most likely did through an informant. That person may have, in some convoluted way, committed treason but abc did not. This information is essential to citizens because it helps us track the activities of our government. Just because we are at war doesn't mean that the laws don't apply to the government. To think that is to think like a terroist who says that because he is oppressed he has the right to blow up American Soldiers. To betray the laws of and ideals of your nation is truely treasonous.
Posted by: Brett | Jun 7, 2006 6:06:37 PM
It's amazing how low a 'civilized" nation like the United States can sink when it loses it's backbone and gives in to stinking, yellow fear.
A nation that tolerates the torture of an enemy of the state is just one step away from torturing its own citizens.
"First they came for the Jews
and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists
and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out
because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me
and there was no one left
to speak out for me."
Posted by: Hubba Bubba | Jun 7, 2006 6:19:01 PM
Thank you for reporting these violations of international law. I'll point out for those complaining, that this has been covered in the international press.
The national security risk is that these activities occured in the first place, not that the public is being informed of them.
Posted by: Charles | Jun 7, 2006 6:29:46 PM
Our country seems to ignore civil rights when it suits its purposes. How can we expect other countries to protect civil rights when we do not? We are no better than those countries we criticize.
Posted by: Debi | Jun 7, 2006 6:31:54 PM
It occured to me that if you (ABC and Brian Ross) put as much effort into your "reporting" as you do on the so-called "reprehensible" United States of America to fight Americas enemies, maybe you could find information to help root out terrorists like Bin Laden and al-Zarqawi? Many others like myself, just check your own polling data, wonder who's side you are on. At the very least, we question your severe bias.
Posted by: Concerned American | Jun 7, 2006 6:54:57 PM
I am glad unhumane behavior that anyone reporting to be of pure intent, even countries, is exposed. We become "terrorists" to "stop terrorists" and the ethics of everyone is lost, it's like cops who turn dirty to catch a "bad guy". They become what they detest, and the integrity of the person, or the country is being lost. Exposure is needed on the course back to an ethical operation and is only available by this necessary step. Running a transparent operation is the longlasting solution.
Thank you for publicising this so all can come forth to heal. It puts us in no danger, but recovery.
Posted by: John Tyler | Jun 7, 2006 7:18:44 PM
This does no good for our own cause, this is our intellegence agency your leaking. why would US media Open this vital information to all, we're at war. Very Idiotic.
Posted by: Cory Cranage | Jun 7, 2006 7:21:03 PM
I would like to extend my heartfelt thanks to Poland, Romania, Hungary, Czech Republic, and other victims of Communist domination for their assistance in the war on teror. These countries have demonstrated their friendship to the West and particularly the United States in various ways. If I could I would shake the hand of the ambassador of Poland for his country's military assistance in Iraq and try to convey the true feelings of many Americans for his country's actions. How different the world would be if we had been strong enough to stop Stalin in 1945, and to have reaped the friendship of the formers Warsaw Pact contries over the past 60 years!
Posted by: Larry Bell | Jun 7, 2006 7:45:22 PM
People should read before giving out uninformed opnions. This information is not ABC's it's a report from the Council of Europe, which started investigating a few months ago CIA illegal flights on some European countries. The story was first revealed by several journalists in several countries and the European Council started an investigation. ABC here is only informing on the report published today.
Posted by: O Peixe | Jun 7, 2006 8:29:43 PM
I am always amazed that when attrocities such as this are uncovered, people become angry at the messengers rather than those who actually committed the attrocities.
I don't know what statute drafted by Congress allows for secret prisons in other countries. If you can find a law permitting this type of behavior, even in war times, please post it here.
Otherwise, do not act so naive as to assume government can covertly violate all kinds of Federal and International laws, in all corners of the Earth, just because we're at war with Afghanistan and Iraq.
Posted by: Wick | Jun 7, 2006 8:32:10 PM
You sometimes must fight fire with fire.
The survival of a Free Nation is more vital that anyone can truly understand.
Temporary unpopular measures sometimes are required for the survival of the Free!
Those that attack the United States, are those who would enslave you to their small world of compulsive abeyance.
Posted by: logan | Jun 7, 2006 8:48:16 PM
I strongly support the evidence put forward by ABC and makinng the world know the cruel acts of American government bu voilating the basic human rights of the people under detention. this are the facts push peopleto come closer to US only with more hatred and the innocent people of US paying the price for all the wrong doings of the administration.
Posted by: Sripal Reddy | Jun 8, 2006 3:01:25 AM
You do not fight evil with evil and hope to win the conflict. You cannot corrupt your soul for the price of victory. You destroy the valor, the honor and the integrity of the individuals who are fighting for you. You take young men and women and teach them the difference of right and wrong. But commit atrocities in the name of victory. Actions like these CIA flights should only be made when all humanitarian actions have been exhausted. Apparently someone's approval rating needed the quick fix. It is a sad day in America when any of our population thinks that this is the correct path to victory...
Posted by: Gary Smith | Jun 8, 2006 5:25:48 AM
As Logan pointed out we are fighting for the survival of this Free Nation. Unfortuantely it would appear that the threat is internal, not external. Since 9/11 it has become clear that we really have lost our backbone. For 200+ years this Nation has attempted to stand for the highest standard of individual rights and freedoms. In a short 4+ years we have shown the world just how weak our resolve is to those values. Every American needs to look into the mirror and ask themselves whether they are willing to die for the values this country represents. I know that I am.
I believe this is a blessed nation. But, by letting letting Osama scare us and our fearless leader(s) into sacrificing our values we have lost the war. They win because we have become like them. We may continue to fight and win battles but in the end we are lost because our country lacked the backbone to stand up for our values, to risk it all for the greater good.
Posted by: Boo Man | Jun 8, 2006 10:19:49 AM
What civil rights are we supposed to give criminals.I believe that in order to protect innocent people that the terrorists have no rights. they have a right to die a violent death just as they wish!
Posted by: Mike | Jun 8, 2006 10:22:25 AM
Weren't we saying that the "Ruskies" were doing this kind of stuff years ago.
Good ol George
Posted by: Dave Wilson | Jun 8, 2006 3:41:39 PM
If one more person says "we're at war" I think I'll scream!
Sure we're at war. Kinda' like we have a war on poverty, illiteracy, hunger, drugs, cancer and terrorism.
We have never drafted an official declaration of war and congress has never ratified one. How could we declare a war on terrorism? Who the heck would you mail the notice to??? And in Iraq and Afghanistan, although it sure must feel like a real war to our troops...it's not. Viet Nam was more of a genuinely declared war than whatever this is right now in the middle east.
Rather than genuinely being "at war" we are in a state of recognizing a president's right to initiate and use military force.
Big difference.
Declarations of, and actually engaging in a "war" need be approved by lawmakers.
Whatever this mess is, was basically the decision of one man and his handlers. And their ability to run an end game around the laws previously written into our system.
So, yo may or may not like the journalism going on about the not so surprising methods used by the CIA and other intelligence agencies , but give the press a break, will ya?
They can't be giving away secrets during a war...because as yet we aren't in one.
Stop being hypnotized by the repetition of the lie that your leadership would have you believe.
Posted by: zach | Jun 8, 2006 4:06:42 PM
I beg to differ with Boo Man, but we are not "fighting for the survival of this free nation".
If we are fighting for the survival of any free nation at all it was the one that existed for us prior to 9/11.
Since then that particular nation has died and has been replaced with something far more totalitarian than that "free nation" that reference is made to.
That free nation will never be back no matter how many third world countries we bomb, bullet, invade or reshape in our own image.
We fight now, for lack of anything better to do than to seek revenge for what this nation once was, or was believed to be. In either case, that nation was free by comparison. We were free from fear.
What it is now falls short of either that reality or that illusion, and as Thomas Wolfe once said, "you can never go home".
Posted by: zach | Jun 8, 2006 5:32:29 PM
Different story same comments agianst a different story?
As a journalsit myself... I am seeing a patern here.
Not only on this site- but others as well.
I wonder if ABC News saves the urls on the source of post reactions it might be interesting for the blotter to show that sometime- who are those posting what looks like cut-ans-paste attacks on media outlets?
Its a story perhaps? they might want to look into....
mkc
Posted by: Mike | Jun 9, 2006 1:53:46 PM
Funny how the anti-Bush liberals think that leaking classified material is "whistleblowing" and refusing to go to Iraq (i.e. the Army Lt. in Washington State) is "heroic" and "brave". No wonder they are a dying breed, you can't survive long when your priorities are backwards.
Posted by: Chris V | Jun 9, 2006 4:30:48 PM
Dick Marty's report is pure rumor, hearsay and innuendo. He even admits he does not have any verifiable fact to support his allegations. So we are to take his allegations as true just because he is a EU bureacrat? He hasn't even made out a prima facie case that secret flights occured and torture prisons exist. You really should read his whole 25 page report.
Posted by: Justice Learned Hand | Jun 9, 2006 6:17:10 PM
I don't know if the liberal is a dying breed at all. The last two elections were extremely close. God help this country if their candidate is elected in 2008. I really don't know if America could survive as we know it today if it had to endure that kind of leadership. The margin for error is just so narrow on so many fronts now, four years of the pig-ignorant stupidity liberals like to applaud might just drive us over the edge.
Posted by: Joe | Jun 12, 2006 7:22:44 AM
This is not irresponsible reporting as some have noted in this blog. In a free society we as citizens have the right to know what our government and its agencies are doing especially if it turns out to be inappropriate or illegal activity. Otherwise, we are no longer living in a free society but one step closer to a military dictatorship. Do we really want the press to be regulated as to what they can and cannot report? I would think that the majority of Americans would say no. We pride ourselves on being a lawful nation but how can we do that and save face with the rest of the world when this is going on at the behest of our leaders, government and its agencies. Thank you ABC for reporting this.
Posted by: Concerned | Jun 14, 2006 1:06:25 PM
This is a problem upper class elite white men talking about terrorist rights. And the MSM damaging National Security by reporting methods and sources.
I have some news for you idots whom are more worried about terrorist rights. The garbage that the MSM is report is wrong the reporters can be prosecuted.
Just as I have stated in the past the upper class elite whites do not serve in the military or have never been to the middle east or Afghanistan. So why do these idots worry about terrorist rights, ONLY BECAUSE THEY HAVE A TWO WORD MISSION STATEMENT HATE BUSH. THIS IS WHAT SHAPES THEIR WORLD, EVERY WORD UTTERED FROM THEIR ANT-AMERICAN IS MOLDED TO FIT THIS SELF SEVERING STUPIDITY.
WHEN ONE OF THEIR LOVED ONES HAS TO GO TO IRAQ OR AFGHANISTAN OR MAYBE DOES NOT MAKE IT BACK THEN WILL YOU BE WORRIED ABOUT TERRORIST RIGHTS I DO NOT THINK SO.
JW
Posted by: JW | Sep 15, 2006 1:21:58 AM
How many names on a paper would it take charging Bush , Rice , Cheney , Rumsfeld and the others with crimes against the American people , Iraq , Iran ,and others .If not , could a Judge have them removed from office until an independent body investigates the charges and submits their full report to the court? just trying to help .
Posted by: Old griz | Jun 20, 2007 12:13:20 AM
" If This is what Americans felt help their war on terror than why not go thru with a full blown plan like...Killing everybody who disagree with the government. To secretly cover up the abuse of ones humans rights, is just as wrong as accusing a country for having nuclear capabilities( which where not found) attacking them, knowing there's other countries with worst intentions. Speaking from my eyes and knowledge the American Government contradicts their own law, their own constitution, and is their own terrorist. C'mon besides 9/11 hijacking what other country went against our democracy. We destroyed Afghanistan & Saddam's dead. A nation bulit for the people by the people yet the government speak before and after us. YEA!!! this is a democracy? our world leaders is definitely showing to be proving role models to our younger generation.
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