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Plotters Plan Mass Suicide on Train on 9/11/06
July 07, 2006 6:00 PM
Federal law enforcement officials tell ABC News a plot designed to use 15 to 20 suicide bombers on one commuter train as close to Sept. 11 as possible was well under way.
The specific target was the PATH commuter trains that run in a tunnel under the Hudson River into New York City.
"This is a plot that would have involved martyrdom, explosives and certain of the tubes that connect New Jersey with lower Manhattan," said Mark Mershon, Assistant Director-in-Charge of the FBI New York Field Office. "We're not discussing the modality behind, beyond that."
But law enforcement officials say the plotters had already accessed detailed blueprints and drawings of the PATH tunnels, available on the internet.
And like the London bombers, the plan was to load backpacks with explosives.
All 15 to 20 bombers were to board one car and detonate when the train was under the river, according to officials.
"There's no question that they are vulnerable. With the right amount of explosives, the tunnel could be compromised," said Jerry Hauer, former Director of New York City's Office of Emergency Management and now an ABC News consultant.
The FBI identified the ringleader as 32-year-old Assem Hammoud of Lebanon.
Lebanese officials arrested him in April at the request of the FBI, and he reportedly has now admitted he was about to go to Pakistan for training at an al Qaeda camp.
"We know that he has acknowledged pledging a bayat or allegiance to Osama bin Laden, and he proclaims himself to be a member of al Qaeda," said Mershon.
Security was stepped up today at the PATH tunnels.
Officials said today two other alleged plotters had also been arrested, but at least five of them remain at large.
"This shows we are able to disrupt terror plots such as this," said New York City Police Commissioner Ray Kelly. "Secondly, it shows that New York remains in the terrorists' cross hairs."
Officials say the plot was uncovered more than a year ago by U.S. and Canadian intelligence agents watching a jihadist internet chat room.
Officials say the suspects communicated freely, thinking that no one could track them.
Similar chat rooms were used by the alleged terrorists arrested recently in Toronto and Miami.
"The chat rooms have literally exploded since 9/ll because we are now right in the midst of electronic jihad," said Jack Cloonan, former senior agent on the FBI's bin Laden squad in New York and now an ABC News consultant.
Officials say none of the plotters was in the United States but that several of them were nearby in Canada. Others had planned to travel to New York from Saudi Arabia.
Officials say even after their leader was arrested in April, the plotters continued to make plans, and officials say they can't be sure the plan is fully stopped, even now.
July 7, 2006 | Permalink | User Comments (47)
The article says the plot was first discovered in April. And they JUST stepped up security on the PATH today in July
Way to go.
Posted by: skeptical | Jul 7, 2006 6:32:28 PM
Hammoud was arrested in three months ago, in April?
The plot was uncovered more than a year ago?
Anybody else wondering why today was chosen to unveil the plan? Maybe the anniversary of the attacks in London?
The timing of this announcement is very suspicious.
Posted by: Steve | Jul 7, 2006 7:17:34 PM
I think as an American citizen we should be told of what's going on in our country. The US government new out about this a year ago and we're just finding out now? I just think the Bush administration and the entire government is letting us down. (except for the "poor" soldiers who are figting for our freedom in IRAQ)....thank you!
Posted by: Anthony | Jul 7, 2006 7:48:32 PM
The government stops another terrorist attack, and they're "letting us down" ? Sometimes in a sensitive investigation it's necessary to keep things quiet in order to keep the investigation moving along. On the contrary, this is only the latest in a series of attacks that have been discovered in the US and Canada - I'd say the government is doing quite well at the moment.
Posted by: Ben | Jul 7, 2006 8:16:32 PM
Letting us down?
Since 9/11 they haven`t launched a successful terror attack even though they have tred and tried.
Kudos to those who are protecting us all.
Posted by: Dunk | Jul 7, 2006 9:08:48 PM
Election time is coming up folks.... they are releasing this info now because Republicans want to keep us in fear. This is the second terror plot story released in a few weeks and there will be more stories, we'll see. That is the only strong platform they have going for them, fighting terror.
Posted by: james | Jul 7, 2006 9:46:05 PM
Yes, we do need to recognize and appreciate those who sacrifice their lives for our safety and protection. We also need for God to bless America, but most of all, we need for America to bless God!
Posted by: Carol | Jul 7, 2006 9:47:55 PM
What does G-d have to do with any of this?
Posted by: Jennifer | Jul 7, 2006 9:54:25 PM
I think everyone is talking about two separate issues. 1) Does the government use information to their advantage to frighten the public and be political and 2) When is it appropriate for sensitive information to be released. I think there really needs to be a balance. Yes, some information is sensitive and should be handled with care to track down and get these terrorists. On the other hand, our government should not be using this information to instill fear in the public. G-d has nothing to do with this. We are hear on this earth to take care of each other. Frankly, with events taking place in Africa, Korea, and the Middle East...I am suprised we have lasted this long on the planet. If we just start talking and listening to each other...we will realized that each side has a perspective and their is a middle road. With irresponsible leadership, our nation is heading in the wrong direction. Hopefully, a newly educated and peaceful leader will emerge!
Posted by: Jennifer | Jul 7, 2006 10:02:06 PM
About the timing: this story was leaked to the newspaper, not released by the government. The FBI (and others) are not happy it was reported before they had managed to arrest all those involved in this plot. There was still more they needed and wanted to investigate, but another leak to a newspaper blew the investigation they had been working on for a year! Do you think other governments (especially in the Middle East) are going to be as cooperative in the future, if they are afraid their cooperation will be broadcast around the world via U.S. newspapers? Would they bother helping, when the newspapers will just alert those they're trying to build a case against so they can escape arrest and being brought to justice? Stupid, stupid, stupid newspapers... they may win a battle (i.e. get a "scoop" or a Pulitzer) but lose the War.
Posted by: Keaukina | Jul 7, 2006 10:04:18 PM
Are you kidding me? Is there really a link to the site that the "terrorists" were using? Is this another example of abc trying to get the scoop and add some little candiies on top? Really, I don't think we need to add this to the story. It's bad enough that people are still willing to travel to the middle east for jihad. Does abc need to make it easier for even dumber people to try the same thing? Of course we need to step up security now that abc is posting blueprints for people like Timothy McVeigh to use. Enough said. Shame on abc.
Posted by: dammad | Jul 8, 2006 1:48:53 AM
ok keep your eye on the ball, see it here? now we move the cups and around and around it goes where it ends up no one will know....
Posted by: Paul | Jul 8, 2006 8:39:20 AM
I say it's a wonderful thing that they foiled a terrorist attack! For God's s sake, quit sweating the small stuff! Let's be thankful this thing didn't go down!
Posted by: Linda | Jul 8, 2006 1:50:36 PM
It is yet another "fear card - leak" that Rove and George W. Napoleon have to throw out there every once and awhile to keep the "paranoia strikes deep" Republican agenda alive. Doesnt he realize that his poll numbers have yet to rise and the people in the states that experienced 9/11... ie. NY, who lose more Homeland Security funding every year can see through all his games. Also, NYS had record flooding a few weeks back, the governor declaired it a disaster, George W Napoleon refused to declair a disaster area, but if it was good ol' Florida, it generally gets declared before the first rain drop falls- ironic isn't it. No wonder the places that experienced the horrors of 9/11 DIDNT EVEN VOTE FOR HIM IN THE LAST ELECTION - (NY, PA, DC)... think about that America. WAKE UP Lost sheep, and believe me, this has nothing to do with god or church... its pure arrogance or maybe ignorance!
Posted by: Kurt | Jul 8, 2006 1:57:49 PM
Go USA kep catching this slime!
Posted by: tom | Jul 8, 2006 3:51:40 PM
I've heard it many times, but this time I've got to say something. Many articles and reports have referred to 'martyrdom'. The definition of martyr is someone who chooses to suffer death rather then renounce religious principles. So far as I know, no one is trying to make these people renounce their religion, ie the term 'martyr' is incorrectly being used. From my own upbringing, I have been taught that a martyr is someone who is told to change their beliefs or die. A terrorist, on the other hand, is someone who tells others to change their beliefs or die. Can we please stop referring to or even inferring that these 'people' are martyrs!? From history, I'd say they come no where close to falling in the same class.
Posted by: Cathy | Jul 8, 2006 4:31:10 PM
I live in Hoboken NJ and take the Path trains into the city all the time.
This has left me very scared.
The ending of the article doesnt give assurances that the plot is fully stopped.
It would appear that Jihadists are forever obsessed with NYC.
I left my job at WTC before 9/11, but knew many who were murdered there on 9/11.
I felt lucky to get out before 9/11.
After reading this new plot Im afraid to stay around NYC anymore.
Posted by: ChillsDownMySpine | Jul 8, 2006 4:54:20 PM
well, if the information was released as soon as it was discovered, as you liberal idiots seem to prefer, the others involved would catch wind of it and go into hiding or alter the plan.
Did you not learn anything from the idiot reporters in Vietnam getting our guys killed by giving "up-to-the-minute reports?
Another thing, I wish you wouldn't refer to us as "poor" soldiers and Marines. We volunteered to do this. It's our job.
From Iraq with love,
Posted by: jeff | Jul 8, 2006 11:45:15 PM
Apparently confidentiality has no meaning for Liberals. Also, a Liberal cannot state why my President George W. Bush is hated, or those who try to keep us safe.
What we need to do is 'APPLAUD' the President for what he has done (not the filth we had in OUR White House a few years ago), and OUR BRAVE Men and Women who protect us daily so that we can enjoy PEACE at home. They volunteered (while all of you who complain and whine) would never. Vietnam, look back at what you did, you consorted with the enemy, commited TREASON, and had our boys tourtured and killed because nothing was confidential.
The leakers, the reporters, and the editors should all be CHARGED and PROSECUTED for TREASON. Then and only then will this stop.
Do you really need to know that a plot was foiled? How does it enrich your life? What can that information do to help you? Disclosing that information has but one purpose - offer aid and comfort to the enemy - and destroy the very fabric of our country. But alas, when we have lost all, let us not ask how did it happen, but instead say, WE MADE IT HAPPEN.
Posted by: vernon | Jul 9, 2006 8:26:13 AM
Semper Fi, Jeff.
"Civilians", don't know squat about soldiers,Liberals sure have got whinning and hand wringing down to an art.
Hoot
39th Pararescue Sqd.
Posted by: Hoot | Jul 9, 2006 12:03:09 PM
If we are going after every nutjob spewing violent rhetoric on the web, we need a lot more gitmos asap.
Posted by: chris fr ga | Jul 9, 2006 12:32:58 PM
Leave it to liberals to turn this into a political story. What was the NYT release of the financial tracking info if not political? The "BIG MEDIA" would like nothing more than to see another attack on the USA - it would boost ratings and make Bush look bad. Wake up people - if you were captured by some of these idiots and had a machette to your neck, you'd be BEGGING Bush to come save your liberal hide!
Posted by: Bob | Jul 9, 2006 1:02:13 PM
Awww C'mon. Our buddies in the middle east are really fond of reporters. Just ask the many they have played with before they killed them! They toyed with them with drills, humiliation, and who knows what else before they chopped off their heads to put them on the nightly news!
Posted by: Anomaly1974 | Jul 9, 2006 1:47:25 PM
please bush didnt do anything to stop it the FBI did all the work and will still be doing it when the oil monkey is out of office as well thank goodness for the FBI.
Posted by: steven | Jul 9, 2006 3:54:03 PM
What strikes me odd about this is that the accused terrorist were using chat rooms and not encrypting any of their messages. These people are not stupid and encryption is not that complicated,you just have to keep changing the rules.If indeed a plot was foiled,great if this a political ploy shame on the Bush adminstration. They do know how to manipulate the press , leak information regardless if it is based in reality.Anyone's memory long enough to remember the subtle drumbeat to the war in Iraq while we were still fighting the Taliban in Afghanistan and all the time the white house was denying it had any such plans.Don't blame the press here, let's wait and see if the truth ever comes out.
Posted by: Dennis Goodwin | Jul 9, 2006 6:12:51 PM
The whole thing is a bunch of nonsense contrived for public consumption ahead of the mid-term elections. Spreading fear and then telling people to trust the "good guys" in office is the M.O. Just like the Toronto group and the Miami group, much ado about absolutely nothing substantive. No doubt, we'll continue to see similar "big breaks" in the coming weeks and months. Just more of the same "war on terror" charade that continues to play out to an incredibly gullible American public.
Posted by: Drew | Jul 9, 2006 11:02:47 PM
The press responsibility is to provide us the honest truth of the world’s activity and not withhold any boundaries of knowledge, nor be dictated to how it should be presented; this why they are called journalist; they research, capture the pro and cons of the issue at hand.
They should not be dictated to by any political party and this is coming from a liberal.
God Bless.
Posted by: Victoria Rum | Jul 10, 2006 10:27:41 AM
It's simply amzing to me how naive some people here in the US are. How can you not be grateful for the work that the army, FBI and President are doing to protect YOU? What will it take to wake you silly liberals up?
Posted by: Realist | Jul 10, 2006 11:17:45 AM
I have a friend who does telephone sales for a D.C. area arts organization. On Friday he got a call from a patron who works for Homeland Security: "Those headlines in New York - it's all a farce" he said. This story is nothing more than "badge polishing" on the part of the FBI and Homeland Security, intended to get more money for the likes of Peter King and Chuck Schumer to dole out to assorted "security contractors".
Posted by: Gary | Jul 10, 2006 11:40:45 AM
I find it interesting that, just like in 2004, the "Fear Factor" gets taken up a notch by the Bush administration. For several years, we hear NOTHING about foiled plots and are told that talking about them wouldn't be prudent.
Low and behold, Bush's approval rating is at an all time low and the Republicans are looking pretty week for the November elections. I've heard that some Republicans would prefer that the President NOT campaign with them.
I think it is unfortunate that our government feels a need to manipulate the emotions of the population to try to stay in power. But is it really just about protecting the people or is it more to do with being on top and in charge?
America IS NOT safer today than it was six years ago. More people in the world hate American than ever before. That's a lovely legacy for this administration.
Posted by: Dan | Jul 10, 2006 12:25:18 PM
Hmmm..let's see....war in Afghanistan...getting worse by the day...Iraq..obviously a nightmare...oil over $70.00 a barrel...gasoline..around $3.00 a gallon......Wall street..has no idea which way to go......New Orleans...still a mess almost a year later......illegals pouring thru the southern border still....interest rates...rising faster than gasoline...education in the dumps...No Child Left Behind but no funding of course...gotta have tax breaks for the millionaires instead so the Corporate execs can get their $400 million dollar bonuses and make their 262 timnes what the average American worker makes!!!...did you get that??...262 times!!!!!!.but they need a tax break?????...right!.....hello!..........the "conservative" congress votes itself another big pay raise...and we have record deficits!!!!!!!!....most of the world hates us and apparently will NOT bargain or negotiate with us any more on most anything..if this is what "conervatism" is all about..I'd rather have a Pres. having sex than this.......yup.......ole King George has done a great job!!!!!!....
PS...just what is so bad about sex?........grow up!
Posted by: Has A Brain | Jul 10, 2006 12:30:43 PM
If anyone is worried about the "fabric of our country" consider this. It's already thread bare.
Each time an elected politician takes a bribe for personal gain or breaks the law or undermines the intent of our constitution and gets away with it with no penalty...each time the voters no longer have confidence in the effectiveness of their vote...each time a president is enabled to act as though we live under a monarchy...each time congress can provide themselves with a $30,000 pay raise but not offer so much as a penny of hope to those in America who only see $7,400.00 per year from minimum wage...when the economy and the military of this country are being manipulated by covert military and political causes with the prime objective of creating global dischord...and every time the people who lead this country can do so by waging wars of choice based on less than honest and honorable intent, with the only consequence being that our (most often) disadvantaged youth pay for it with their lives and limbs, the fabric of this country takes yet another acid wash.
These are just a few of the things that ruin the fabric of America.
It's not the people speaking out. It's not the press or the people who report on the causality of official decree and it's not the announcements of foiled plots by people stupid enough to use chatrooms to publicly lay their plans to declare war on our country that threaten our security.
We have to stop scrutinizing our fellow countrymen and women as though we were living the Twighlight Zone episode of the Monsters on Maple Street and make leadership accountable in every instance and to the same standards that we the people are held to and expected to observe.
Posted by: zach | Jul 10, 2006 12:36:50 PM
It's a lose-lose situation. When the next attack happens, one side will say not enough was done to protect us. The other side will say "Look, the President didn't do enough to protect us."
Seems to me that what we have here is a failure to communicate.
There is NO EASY answer. We are never going to be safe from the threat of terrorism. All we can hope is to keep it under some sort of control, by means which will not always be popular.
When the next attack happens, I think I dread the finger pointing in the aftermath as much as burying the dead.
We MUST find a common ground...not only in our governmental policies, but as individual American Citizens. We have to be as united as our enemy.
I wish us luck.
Posted by: Katya | Jul 10, 2006 12:42:13 PM
The Liberals are so damn concerned to report anything found without consideration for other Americans and military people that could be in harms way.
No Liberals seem to want to comment on the WMDs that have been popping up in Iraq! No, that story doesn't support their lies and slander aimed at Conservatives.
In about 120 days their brand of politics is going to be voted out and they will all realize that Liberal lies only helps the opposing cause... Let Freedom Ring!
Posted by: Paul | Jul 10, 2006 1:10:25 PM
to all those bloggers who think that liberals leaked this story, think about it. The Admin released this story over the objections of the FBI. Why, especially on the eve of the London bombings? To tout their success in winning "the war on terror."
Bah! Two PR campaigns to make Bush look competent. Here's a post from a conservative ex-CIA guy and writer for American Conservative Magazine, Philip Giraldi to put it in perspective:
“The so-called New York tunnel plot was a result of discussions held on an open Jihadi web site. They are not professionally trained terrorists, however, and had no resources with which to carry out the operation they discussed.
“Despite press reports that they had asked Abu Musab Zarqawi for assistance, there is no information to confirm that. It is known that the members discussed the possibility of approaching Zarqawi but none of them knew him or had any access to him.
“In sum, the plot, if that is what we would call it, was not well conceived, and there was no possibility of flooding Wall Street. There was no connection to a cell in the US. Finally, professional terrorists generally do not discuss targeting on open channels. As it was being monitored from the beginning of the open discussion, there was little chance anything concrete would have developed.”
Posted by: SPENCER ADAMS | Jul 10, 2006 2:52:13 PM
Get over it! There's always an election coming up. Don't think the timing is otherwise always questionable also. If you knew everything the FBI and other agencies were doing....the bad guys would know too!! What then would or could you contribute to help the situation? Stop being so critical that is unless you are in the arena.
Posted by: Stan Wilson | Jul 10, 2006 3:27:13 PM
To misdirect this dialog toward the evil in America that is supposedly "liberal" is child-like, simplistic and nothing more than a pure partisan effort to shield the incompetencies of the current administration and ruling majority in Congress for the last 6 years.
The "liberals" have no more to do with the terrorist plots being aimed at this country and around the globe than, say the Bush administration, against all circumstantial evidence to the contrary and in spite of all obvious motive for personal gain that followed, had to do with orchestrating or allowing the events of 9/11.
This would include behavior such as sweeping plane loads of potential associates and family members of Osama Bin Laden out of the country before any of them could be asked so much as a single question about thier mutual relationships with the alledged master mind and planner of the tragedy.
It's not a liberal/conservative issue.
It's an issue that pits those who genuinely care about this country and those who simply wish to profit wealth and/or power from it and offer little more than lip service, propaganda and the lives of the young to gain it through feigning actual concern for our security and well being.
Posted by: zach | Jul 10, 2006 3:43:39 PM
I'm confused. Wasn't this story reported by the N.Y. Daily News? Are those here lambasting the "liberals" aware of the political leanings of this newspaper?
Posted by: MJ | Jul 10, 2006 4:25:41 PM
Americans deserve what they get. First time, maybe you did not know, but the second time you should have known who and what policies you were electing. Whether this ignorance was innocent (stupidity) or intentional (fascism) does not matter. In politics intentions don't count, results do.
Posted by: jason | Jul 10, 2006 11:50:48 PM
IT is GOD not G-d! I feel for those who don't have any faith. We are always singing GOD Bless America, but we can't seem to realize that GOD has always bless America we are one of the wealthies country on the plant earth. This land was built on the word of GOD (The BIBLE) and now since so much has happen to AMERICA (the land of the BRAVE the HOME of the FREE) we have lost our values and principles. Yes,at this point the only brave individuals are our SOLIDERS who are fighting for a country who always have their noses in some other country business.
Until America unite with one another (African Americans and White Americans) we will not be able to unite with others countries. How can we join togther and fight for some other country -- but we can't join together and fight against the issues here in America. I know this was off the topic, but who are we fooling -- nobody but overselves. GOD BLESS you all!
Posted by: Renee | Jul 11, 2006 12:45:14 PM
Whos to say these terrorist didn,t have 3 sets of plans.And three different groups,with three different leaders.With the same aim in mind.or different targets.
Posted by: Chuck | Jul 11, 2006 1:12:02 PM
I think martians are parading as jihadists in order to stop democracy in the middle east.I think that other aliens are plotting against the first group. Of course George Bush is an alien, and so is Jesse Jackson. ...If "Jesse" is his real name...
Youe see, if they can keep us earthlings distracted, they can invade Mars and we won't know until its too late!
Did I win the prize for best conspiracy theory?
Posted by: jason | Jul 11, 2006 1:55:16 PM
Nobody is fighting for our "freedom" in Iraq. Iraq had NOTHING to do with 9/11. And terrorists/jihadists aren't trying to take our "freedom". They have neither the means nor the desire to do that. They want the West out of Arab/Muslim world. They believe violence will drive us out by making it too expensive to stay. The people who want to take our freedom are those who rule by spreading lies and fear. The way to defeat terrorists is by facing the truth about their goals and methods, not by living in a state of fear. Politicians who try to keep us afraid are doing the terrorists' work for them.
Posted by: Alex | Jul 11, 2006 4:57:57 PM
Kudos to Alex. Recent statistic that 85% of military believe that saddam was directly involved in 9/11. He was NOT! As proven, he was no imminent threat to our county. Yes, I thank the military for serving our country. HOwever, the current chicken hawk administration seems to have little regard for your safety. It was us liberals who didn't want you in harms way. We want you fitted with the best armor. We didn't want you to fight a superflous war. Yes it was right to go into afghanistan. Why are we in Iraq? We are depleting our military for what? We want you home and safe, not fighting a war for oil.
Posted by: margot | Jul 12, 2006 9:56:29 AM
To Renee - Jewish people don't spell out the word "G-D" because it is our belief that we show respect and awe by not being forward enough to assume that we can address Him. It is a sign of humility and respect. I, personally, am especially opposed to dropping bombs on people while shouting G-D's name.
Posted by: margot | Jul 12, 2006 10:02:07 AM
A quote from Hermann Goring at the Nuremberg trials:
"Of couse the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine policy, and it's always a simple matter drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a facist dictatorship, or a parliment or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
Posted by: margot | Jul 12, 2006 10:33:13 AM
Thanks Margot.
"Of couse the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine policy..."
Or as it was recently put another way...
"I'm the decider!"
GW Bush
(That's how arrogantly brazen it's become just 60 years after that infamous speech at Nuremburg.)
Posted by: zach | Jul 13, 2006 1:25:32 AM
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