well, duh....!

It is about time! Godd work.

Wow..!! What a great idea, a brainstorm. The only guy on the plane in a three-piece suit. I can't believe the ingenuity in this decision, and those in charge deserve a bonus, no matter what the price

One small step for FAM, one giant leap for FAM kind.......
I can ID my dog with an embedded chip for $25 bucks....... you can't tell me the FAM guys can't have a similar ID system to get them past "Check-in" woes with their 'duty equipment' so as not to arouse whistles, buzzers, and bells to go off...

gimmee a break and help these out please..

Seriously guys, it not obvious that this was "overlooked". There is a greater plan in the works here.

You mean to tell me these people didnt think of this. If that is true, and I dont beleive it is, we as Americans are in deep deep caca. Where has the common sense gone. Nowhere....that was diliberate.

Humph, how stupid do you have to be to set restrictions like that in the first place? The whole idea of having them on planes post 911, was to make sure that they could observe and stop the bad guys. They can only do that if the bad guys don't know who they are. Enforcing a dress code and requiring that they show badges and board the plane befoe the passengers is just plain stupid. If this is how we are still thinking, it is no wonder we will lose the war on terror!

I just want to know when the media will stop giving away all the info and changes the US is doing within to help stop the terrorist's from attacking us again. Some things need to be kept hush hush, they do a great job at suprising us because THEY DONT BLAB EVERYTHING. wise up mediocre america TURN OFF THE TV AND READ A BOOK OR PLANT A TREE!

Journalism as a catalyst for change? Imagine that....

Now let's point that power in more important directions, yes? Say, for example, an expose covering how it is in fact our foreign policies in the Middle East that breeds extremism.

Can you give us an update on what happened to Spencer Pickard? I recall in the original broadcast that he said he would probably be fired. If he didn't get fired, did he get reprimanded, commended, etc... Thanks.

All you have to do now is look for the guy setting off all the metal detectors and being waved through every time.

Why not just make the cockpit inaccessible from the cabin?

While the news that these policies has been revamped is indeed good, Brian Ross and is producers should be ashamed of themselves for acting as if they had ANY part to play in this.

In fact, they came LATE TO THE STORY; there was NOTHING ABC "uncovered" that hadn't been reported about YEARS ago.

The claim that "after an ABC News investigation revealed policies which air marshals said compromised their undercover status" is so laughable I can't stand it. Ross et all are falling into the Dan Rather syndrome of trying to make their involvement in this bigger that it is.

Good news for the air marshals; same ol B.S. "we got it first" from ABC News.

Just Google "air marshals" and 'dress codes" and see how many other news organizations had this story LONG before Ross woke up to it.

Isn't it sad that someone had to go to the media with these problems, risking his job, because the goverment managers of the Air Marshall program have the IQ of turnips?

To Dreek:

Are you seriously suggesting that air marshalls be chipped like your dog is?

If you are serious then stop and think about it for several seconds until you spot the flaw in your plan.

Hmmm... It would seem to me that one way to keep in-flight FAMs "undercover" would be to have them pose as "flight attendants." (Or maybe even members of the flight crew?)

Very few passengers/potential terrorists would think TWICE about members of the flight crew. So, why not? HEre's how I see the scenarios would play out.

You have one FAM posing as one of the flight's "cabin attendants." (can't say "stewardesses" anymore. Not "PC" since it doesn't take into account all the male "flight attendants.") Doing so allows him/her to bypass some of the (supposedly more) stringent checks that TSA agents perform "randomly" on passengers at the airport's security points. Or, at least it should cause "less" suspicion among other passengers waiting in the security line when they see flight crew members (in uniform) aren't being "wanded" or searched as carefully and (relatively) breeze right on through.

The attendant/FAM can then pre-board the aircraft easily to check for hidden weapons (as they are suppose to) or move between the boarding gate/aircraft freely -- and without raising suspicion among the flight's other passengers waiting at the gate to board.

Said undercover agent can also be the one that carries ALL the weapons for all the OTHER FAMs who will be on that flight, posing as passengers. Since the FAM/flight attendant is ALREADY ON-BOARD the aircraft BEFORE the passengers board AND since he/she would ALREADY know those other FAMs (by sight AND also by seating chart, which EVERY flight attendant gets in advance anyway!), they can easily distribute the "tools of the trade" to their partners during the boarding/seating process.

The FAM's gun/holster/other tools can be hidden in special pillow/blanket packages and passed from the "attendant" and appropriate "passenger" discretely and without rousing other passengers' suspicions. (Think about it... How unusual is it for a passenger to ask for a pillow/blanket?)

If the passenger sitting next to the undercover FAM does become suspicious -- say during a mid-day flight that isn't very long (or long enough for a "nap") -- the FAM just tucks pillow/blanket behind them at the small of their back and say "I hate these coach class seats.. they're bad for my lumbar." And that's that. (Added benefit -- since they don't have to worry about concealing the gun on them, undercover passenger FAMs can dress any way they want! Short sleeves & shorts, without a jacket, or even in tight-fitting outfits. (Hey, gotta think of the FEMALE FAMs!!) And of course, that all HELPS to keep their cover from being blown.

Of course, I'm sure there are downsides to this idea... Things like airline union rules that probably won't allow FAMs to pose as "attendants" (since it will take away slots and "jobs" from their union members).

But I think those "power that be" will poo-poo the idea mainly because it sounds like the plot device out of a cheesy spy book or Hollywood action flick. (Hell, it might have even already been used in some mindless work of fantasy!)

But if anything, you gotta admit.... We (the "good guys") HAVE TO HAVE TO start thinking this way -- the simple things that might be easy (and COST EFFECTIVE) to do in order to protect ourselves.

After all, the IDEA of Bad Guys FLYING fully-loaded passenger planes into buildings seemed silly, outrageous, and dumb. Hell, it was EVEN used in a mass-market fictional work. (Read the end of Tom Clancy's "Debt of Honor.")

Yeah, so no need to try SIMPLE things... not when we can spend BILLIONS of dollars and create hundreds of programs, departments, and security "gadgets" that DON'T seem to make a LICK of difference. (But, by god, we're sure "doing something" about security!)

This makes you wonder what type of idiots are "running" the FAM program. The whole upper management plus Dana need to be fired ASOP.

Oh ho!!...Now we, as well as the rest of the world know what Federal Air Marshall Spencer Pickard looks like...thank you ABC News. Another media award for the war on terror.

If I were an air marshall I would hope I would have the common sense to board inconspiciously no matter what the damn dress code. I know these guys don't wear clown suits and don't have to obviously flash badges at the check in counter.

This is overconcern for sure.

Yeah, Mike, it's the media's fault. How dare they report on things that lead to changes in stupid policies like this one. How dare they hold the government up to scrutiny. How. Dare. They.

Rediculous! That extremism has been in existance for at least 1500 years before the US was even dreamed of.

I'll bet the Israeli's figured this one out years ago. I'd also bet that any ten year old could too. How could we be so stupid for so long.

Mr. White-

Apparently you have not followed this story because 20/20 showed FAMs obviously flashing their badges at the check in counter and boarding in front of everybody as the policy requires them too! There are many more changes necessary!

Jeff-

Nothing changed until ABC and 7 News (Tony Kovaleski) in Dever aired their stories!

LAS FAM,

Give me a break. Kovalooski and Ross are just spewing junk on the airwaves. This story was "broken" years ago. The only thing that saved us was a NEW DIRECTOR. Glad we have some common sense at the top now. Yeah, I am drinking the kool-aid, cause it actaully tastes good for a change...

DEN FAM

Mr. Green,

Apparently you have not followed this story because 20/20 showed FAMs obviously flashing their badges at the check in counter and boarding in front of everybody as the policy requires them too! There are many more changes necessary!

- Frank

Nothing changed until ABC and 7 News (Tony Kovaleski) in Dever aired their stories!

Thank Norm Mineta for this nonsense. He should have been fired the first day of the admin.

DEN FAM-

We'll see if the New Director continues this process and makes FAMs undcover we have a long way to go! These changes could have been made in FEB when the New Director took the job if he really wanted to make them! He only made these changes due to the negative MEDIA attention!!! The REAL FAMs know this...

By the way many of the FAMs involved in the media for these stories since 20/20 were the same the "broke this story" years ago!

What have you done other than what they told you for the last 4 years?

Easy to talk on this blotter but where were you years ago!!!

Oh yeah, this is probably Frank Terreri. You can take credit for it all, the real whisleblowers don't need to take credit. Everybody knows you don't get a meeting with your beloved NEW DIRECTOR without 20/20! OR that new job your getting...

Why not issue Uzis, Bandoliers and grenades to all Flight Attendants?

As a former flight attendant, I can tell you that mixing in FAMs with flight crewmembers via same uniforms, etc, is a bad and unworkable idea, which would result in crew coordination problems and compromise safety of the flight.

What did the blond flight attendant say when 2 F-16's came along side the hi-jacked plane?
"It's Ok, we're safe, help has finally arrived."

Nice one humor. Flight attendants are often just washed up waitresses. With numbered seats, drink orders are easier to take for the slow ones.

Mike - You stand corrected as you do not understand the issues here and the realities lived by FAMs who work for morons.

Now some of the fraud, waste and abuse needs to be exposed in this program. Mis-management is rampant by the ex-US Secret Service employees and their buddies.

Thank you ABC for helping the real whistleblowers do their duty to our nation. Sometimes good people have to make hard decisions and stand up for what is right. The real whistleblowers do not want any recognition. They simply want changes to help them protect the public. Real heroes are quiet and do not brag.

Thank you Spencer and the other sixteen. You have served your nation well. Now standby as the powers that be try to retaliate!

Semper fi!

Nice start Dana, now fire some of the scum bags calling themselves management in the FAMS.

Way to go 17! You did us proud and caused some real changes to be made.

This sounds like someone is doing some good there. I read a lot about the last boss of the Sky Marshals and he seemed like a crook. The new one makes sense.

Wendy

Hey Frank Terreri,

Ronald Reagan had a sign on his desk that read:

"It is amazing what can be accomplished if you don't take care who takes the credit"

Maybe you could learn a lesson from that. The 17 air marshals who went on national TV in disguise didn't care about getting any recognition... they only cared about change. They succeeded.

You on the other hand, just embarrassed yourself for trying to take all the credit.

Thank you Dana. You are starting to win us over a little.

The Denver Fam above has to be a current or soon to be member of management. Few in Denver actually drink the Kool-Aid. Ask the five who stood up bravely on Channel 7 wanting nothing more than something to change before another 9/11 occurs. Thanks Terreri, your leadership is noted - but didn't cause the change in the end. The flying Fams stood up without a desire to be recognized. They wanted to do their duty.

It's not a relaxed dress code as being address, it should be "Why have them on the plane in the first place?"

Who wants some nut with a gun shooting at some other nut in an airplane at 35,000 feet in the air?

Then again, the only shooting I ever read about is some air marshall shooting a fellow in the back after the guy got out of the plane and was running away on the airport's tarmack!

Gimme a break folks! Or do you agree with Bush's announcement of the Katrina's boss, "Good job Brownie!"

Why do we have planes flying anymore? They can be used as weapons. They even crash if they use the wrong runway.

There is the real issue. Why don't we just head back to low speed covered wagons for all of our transportation? They almost never kill people. The horses are great too. Fertilizer all over our streets to make our flowers grow better.

Please folks. Bush screwed up in Katrina and now he will let people get hurt in planes, trains and automobiles. Stop the madness.

Way to go Dave. You are really silly.

Thank you Dana Brown. You really are changing it for the better and giving reason for hope.

FAMs,

Terreri isn't saying anything to us, so I will say it. Let's give Brown a chance and keep quiet. We do not need to tell everyone our policy changes. Everyone includes the tangos too.

I don't sip the Kool-Aid, but the changes look good!

Be smart and fly safe brothers!

Now if the FAMS gets rid of the incompetant management - we are headed in the right direction for once.

Let's do our job and all just try to get along. The bosses can continue to scam and hustle and the guys in the trenches (plane seats) will continue to suck it up and drive on.

Thanks for your help,

The Management

Incompetant Management? Just look next door to the neighbor that is a government administrator or forestry ranger. Just look across the street at an IRS Field Agent or a retired air force pilot. The government is us. They do their best with the resources given - as I would, and hopefully you would.

This is a needed change and a good change in tactics. Dave... a navy diver named Steatham (sp) was beat to death by terrorists back on a TWA flight in the 80's and dumped on the tarmac - the next time it will be the terrorists bodies dumped on the tarmac. Go Marshalls.

The management one is not funny. It is sad though because it's so true.

If you don't like it FAMs, quit.

Thanks Brent. We hope to make you proud if that day comes.

Anonymous FAM

The man shot in Miami was not on tarmac. He was facing the Sky Marshals and not running away. He was also not shot in the back. He was on the jetway near the door of the aircraft full of people and fuel. He also continually said he had a bomb in his backpack. They yelled for him to keep his hands in the air in Spanish AND English. Those Sky Marshals did what they had to do and neutralized him fast. Thank God there was no bomb.

Read the investigative report. You have no idea what you are speaking about.

Christopher

I just heard Terreri's interview on NPR. He sounds like he copied Pickard's sound bites verbatim, only slower.

Where was Terreri when the 17 stuck their necks out for what is right with no hope for anything in return personally?

Some of these posts are funny. Some are just sad.

Finally they will not stand out like Men in Black.

Dana Brown is making good changes, but what about Byers, Novak and the rest of the sworn, true-blue buddies of Thomas Dewey Quinn? They are still there beside Brown saying the changes are good too. Do you remember them being a big part of the reason the changes are needed in the first place? They stood next to Quinn and smiled and said yes, yes, yes, ooooohhhh, yes boss, screw those pea-brain amateurs, yes.

Did the Israelis let all the other Nazis go and forgive them just because Hitler offed himself in a bunker? Hitler did not do it alone and neither did Tom Quinn. You cannot steal and mismanage on such a scale without some help.

Pray no new job or life change comes around for Dana Brown. If he leaves, we are screwed. There are stories of SACs in western and eastern offices who had anxiety/anger attacks as soon as they read the Brown policy email. It is burning them up to see the flying FAM vindicated and understood. Kind of funny, one said he was only mad because the chain of command was jumped and he was not allowed to tell his guys himself. The chain of command does not work that way from the top down --- dork.

We need to see Brown fire some of the dead weight and others holding him back from really leading us effectively.

I can still pick out the FAMs.

They are the passengers with the 1000 yard stare of deep regret they took the job in the first place.

Help them out Dana. Make it a good place to work.

Gee, Only, what , five years after 9/11 is the government finally getting a brain when it concerns Air Marshalls nd how they can act. Either we're over reacting about the terrorism threat or the terrorist are completely retarded for not taking advantage us having inept officials making air safety rules like this.

It's about time! Air Marshalls should dress according to the destination of the flight.

If I'm on a flight to Cancun and see someone in a suit and shiny black shoes, I know that is the air marshall. He should be dressed in casual, beach-type clothing, as is the rest of the flight. Good move!

Dave - I would rather have our nut shooting than a terrorist nut shooting.

I kind of like our nuts! They're civil servants who are doing a tough job without much thanks.

It's people like you, Dave, who make it even more difficult for them. Give it a break. I'm glad we have the FAM program. Given time, the kinks will be worked out. How many things have you ever done, Dave, that you did perfectly the first time out?

Might as well give it up guys. Asst. Directors in Denver today told us the best way to get ahead/promote was to transfer to HQs and get a bunch of face time in front of the Director and his Deputies. Become buddies with the upper management and your career is set. Disgusting.

It was all about favoritism, BS and who liked you under the last Director. Under Brown it looks like the same thing. Suck up - get ahead. Great leaders we will get. I cannot believe they said it out loud to a whole group of us.

They also told us our prior histories and work and education mean nothing in our promotion process. It is only what you do in the FAMS. Great. They hired a ton of ex-Secret Service morons solely for their affiliation with the SS. Many of them have no degree and questionable backgrounds/internal affairs pasts. They are hired solely on their past, but we are judged only on the amount of *** we do in our short time here.

This is why the American heroes we hired from U.S. commando forces and other federal agencies are leaving as soon as they can get together an exit strategy. This disrespect and wasting of human resources by lesser ones is such a sad commentary on the government service.

Since the Secret service managers took over the FAM service we have gone from an elite force who turned away thousands of commandos to a service who is struggling to convince airport screeners to apply.

Talk about sad!

About six months ago management finally realized that nobody in law enforcement wanted to become a Federal Air Marshal.

So instead of improving the officer safety, quality of life, and arbitrary disciplinary actions, they decided to hide the problem.

They conspired with upper management in the Tranportation Security Agency (TSA)to find warm bodies to fill the slots of all the seasoned law enforcement officers that are bailing out of the FAM service.

They decided to no longer use the term "baggage screeners" for the people who screen bags. They conspired to rename these screeners Transportation Security OFFICERS. TSO's

This was done in order for the failing Secret Service managers to claim to Congress that they are still attracting "officers" to the program and there is no recruitment problem.
In reality as the real commandos leave they are being replaced by baggage screeners.

As long as this charade is allowed to continue, the FAM service will continue to fail to attract people who we need in the air.

I always here in the rhetoric that the terrorists only have to be right once and we have to be right 100% of the time.

If this is true, why aren't we doing everything we can to attract and keep seasoned law enforcement and commandos on those planes.

Five years ago we were an all-pro team turning other all-pros away. Today we are begging the high school water boys to suit up.

Dana Brown needs to focus on retaining the few all-pros that are left and begin to attract starters.

The key to doing this is to bring back an attractive scheduling matrix. This would began by bringing back the 4 on 3 off schedule.

Many would reconsider staying a FAM if this was considered. If we can cover just as many flights (and we can) it should be the number one priority of DANa Brown.

Hello Everyone ...I am an outsider never having been a TSA/FAM employee. I have been reading various forums and this site for quite some time now regarding the Federal Air Marshal Service. There is a saying that goes, "Only so many people can tell the same lie". In other words, all this negative press there has got to be truth to it.

Although, I understand that having a law enforcement background is "desirable". I do not think it is ABSOLUTELY, POSITIVELY, DIE-HARD necessary. I will say, I am a former FAM applicant and have a strong security background with degrees, in excellent physical condition, and speak a critical foreign language.

Now the FAM Service is pretty screwed I agree because I have heard, along with my own experiences, is that without or without these experiences = some people get hired and some don't. It's like a matter of luck.

If you look on the actual job announcement, do you see anywhere on there that states you absolutely, positively, need any particular type experience? Nope!!!

So in essence, FAM don't know what the HELL they want.

To anonymousfx,

I am currently a FAM who is looking for another job.

I speak fluent Russian and some Arabic and I have never been called to use my language skills. Despite the fact that I speak a critical language, I am just a warm body to fill a flight quota.

I have a masters degree in international relations and I am prior military. I also have four years as a Federal agent with another agency.

Mangaement sees this type of resume as a threat not as an asset.

The Secret Service managers have madew it quite clear that they want people who do not think for themselves but only comply with the "good ol boy " system. If you are a critical thinker who can formulate opinions based on experience and knowledge, you are seen as a threat to their ignorance.

Before you make your final decision on whether or not to apply, ask agents from other federal agencies what if they would ever consider transferring to the Federal AZir Marshal program. I can guarentee you the answer would be a resounding . Never!!!!!

Schedules are based on an outdated computer system that does not calculate routes based on risk but rather 10 hour days.

That 5 ten hour days of flying!
When I was hired we were promised 4 days of flying and 3 days off.

When the retired Secret service managers came in and took over the upper management positions, they changed our schedule to 5 days on and only twop off. Then implemented a dangerous dress code and an lare an equally dangerouds hotel policy.

Thankfully, the dress code and the hotel policy were revoked on Septemeber 1st of this year but their is no sign of the schedule ever going back to a 4 on 3 off.

The 4/3 is the one policy that would offer the greatest incentive to stay a FAM and likewise be the best recruiting tool. (as it was after 9/11.)

And yes you DO want some type of law enforcement experience when you have to arrest or eliminate a team of terrorists at 30,000 ft with no backup.

Do you want your family memger to have open heart surgery with a Doctor who is performing his first operation?

Now multiply that by 200+ people on that plane and countless others on the ground who count on you to make the right split second decisions that often come only with experience.

As a sidenote, I work with many FAMs who would do everything to save a plane but we are treated with such disdain by management that it is a disgrace to work under the policies of the retired Secret Service agents. Most of us who remain must bite our tongues and give up some dignity to even go to work on flights that we know are under no threat. While at the same time there are other flights that pose a threat and go uncovered because it doesn't fit neatly into their ten hour day quota.

(God forbid a flying FAM only work an 8 hour day on a risk flight, when their is a 10 hour route to nowhere and back available)

I hope this gives you a clearer picture of what is going on. If you get to the interview, remember you are attempting to get a job where you are nothing but a warm body filling flight route that an outdated computer system has chosen for you based on a 10 hour day.

We are all looking for other jobs. Save yourself a step and go directly to another job.

Once you become an FAM it is actually harder to get another job than if you never were a FAM \

(some agencies have blackballed FAMs).

Ok Anonymous ...Thank you and I respect your input. I love to hear directly from the grunts that have actually "been there and done the job". I believe you because there is constant negative press about the FAM Service.

Oh well. Today is September 11 and it is a very special day for all of us to "NEVER FORGET".

Anonymousfx,

I agree with everything that was said to you by anonymous. They are only leaving out law enforcement/military special operations desireable from the job announcement because they know it would result in no applicants. The only ones applying are those that either do not know better or are totally unqualified to go anywhere else.

Do yourself a favor and go to another agency first. You will be very happy you did.

Anonymous 2

The press is not always negative about the FAM Svc. The FAM Svc. releases propaganda on a regular basis saying FAMs are all just thrilled with their jobs and managers. After reading the hundreds and hundreds of posts here and on other forums, what do you think?

Don Strange was classy as usual last night on Glen Beck. Maybe someone will wake up and appoint him the Director job of this agency. He is someone 99% of flying FAMs fully support.

I know why they won't bring him on; he would fire about 90% of the current management. He does not seem to have much patience for stupidity, ignorance and arrogance.

well after reading a few hundred blogs about how bad things are over at the FAMS I would like to tell you all it is nothing compared to what’s going on at the TSA, we have the same idiots (retired SS) running the show over here, you'd think we would run out of them at some point, I mean there can only be so many right? well I tell ya, about the third or forth guy hired by TSA(when there was only one or two) was a retired SS, he called all his other incompetent retired SS buddies and wala, now there are FSD's making 100+k more than their worth.( what, there are some 480 FSD’s)
TSA management does not have one person that knows the first thing out security, or the difference between law enforcement and security, and that’s the real problem. TSA does not provide security to the public, it’s a big “dog and pony show” any security expert will tell you if you don’t have control of the principle you can’t have security and TSA screeners don’t and cant have control of the aircraft. There are a hundred doors into any airport and screeners don’t control any of them, when they get done screening baggage for IED’s it goes right back out to a couple hundred bag handlers that like I said don’t go through screening. Anyway, just wanted to vent. And if all you fams want to make fun of the TSA remember, just like your agency its not the workers it’s the management

Jeff,

You make a lot of valid points, but many more screeners were once Walmart greeters. Most FAMs have years and years of substantive experience. The worst FAMs are still relatively sharp people. It makes things much worse when all of our management is about continuing the scam and hustle of tax dollars. We are part of the same organization. The FAMS is back in TSA after ICE did not want anything to do with the bull in our management.

Why can't we just get some real leaders hired in some form of competitive manner? The waivers for ex-SS managers is a sick joke. They should be shown the door immediately.

What is the status of FAM Pickard? I hope they have not fired him. We need more government employees ready to speak out for what is correct.

I agree. Way to stand up Spencer.

Wilson,

Yes your right, on the one hand we do have our “prior service” walmart greeters, soccer moms and alike without a high speed-low drag TS background, but than again our job is simply providing a search. And where it used to be taking dangerous items like scissors and knitting needles, now we take WMD’s like WATER and HAIR GEL…OMG!!! ( I can’t believe I’m not a GS 15 for doing this kind of work).
On the other hand there are a few of us that do know what’s going on, and with the same background as some of you FAMS. I’ve got 20 military years, 15 with special ops.
I hope you guys keep fighting to get rid of all the SS in your management, don’t stop just because they gave in on the dress code thing (don’t give in to the dark side). The SS is the only real problem with both our agencies.

Well, here's the deal. The New York Field Office (Ira's team) issued a memo to FAMs saying that they would NOT be allowed to wear jeans, and other items he listed, but it was up to the FAM to excercise judgement of what they can wear. ????. I don't get it either. In the meantime team 9's ATSAC told the team to be prepared to put in writing why they were'nt wearing dress pants and shoes. I guess what the director says doesn't matter. Also in NYFO, the SAC had the new hires sign a paper stating that they would immediately notify their supervisor of any FAM that speaks negatively of the New York Office. This stuff sounds like a joke, but it is true and just scratching the surface. I guess they all went out for cheese (rats) after the meetings. Oh, yeah. A bunch of those new guys (9) will be fired soon from their actions at the academy.

Horrible, but probably true.