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The Man Who Killed 31 GIs

August 31, 2006 12:02 PM

Iraq_sniper_nrABC News has obtained exclusive photographs of two alleged Iraqi snipers and a vehicle modified as a "mobile shooting platform."

The two insurgents and their car were seized in Iraq last week by Iraqi forces and are now in U.S. military custody.

The vehicle had been retooled to conceal a compartment for a high powered sniper rifle under a back seat and two portals for the rifle scope and muzzle next to the left rear lights. The sniper car was reminiscent of the vehicle used by the two spree killers who killed ten people and terrorized Washington, D.C., in October 2002.

One of the alleged Iraqi snipers, Abdul Ali Abdul Rathman (pictured above), told interrogators that he had killed 31 American soldiers.

Click here to see the exclusive photos of the alleged Iraqi snipers and their car.

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If he truly is a jihadist, let's allow him to meet Allah. The sooner, the better. After all, that's what he and all jihadists want. Post haste!

Posted by: Dave | Aug 31, 2006 2:27:59 PM

I read through the comments, and they are great. I think we as the American public are finally waking up to see these people for who they are. They are evil. There purpose is to destroy all of us, weather you are christina, jewish, hindu, buddist, etc. Anyone who is not muslim. And they pretend to like us, but will never like us until we are dead or convert. I think we should unleash Israel on them and fight a war like its suppose to be fought and tell all the human rights groups to go jump in a lake. I don't see any of them on the ground with our troops. I agree with Napolean's comment. This is what you have to do. We should kill and burn their bodies cause according to their religion you have to be buried whole to get your 70 whores in heven. So lets show them that they won't get them and psychologically pummel them into the ground. I don't think we should be using our tax money to keep them in jail for life and feed them and let them pray and enjoy life cause they are taking all of ours.

Posted by: thinkaboutit | Aug 31, 2006 2:35:23 PM

You can't have it both ways: President Bush says that the United States is at war. So that means that the Geneva Convention apply. Whether or not this man has killed 31 Americans does not mean that you may kill him. He is a POW, and the United States cannot kill POWs.

And if the United States is not at war (which, by the way, Congress has to declare, not the President), then the "wartime powers" that President Bush has so often used to justify his actions, are nothing more than illegal.

I believe that the invasion of Iraq is just as illegal as the Iraqi invasion of Kuwait in 1990. The intent does not matter. Soverign nations are not allowed to invade one another without first being attacked. And as horrific as 9/11 was, it was not an attack by Iraq.

Posted by: Craig | Aug 31, 2006 2:38:47 PM

Before we leave from there we should sterilize there women so they don't breed more "children of hate".

Posted by: thinkaboutit | Aug 31, 2006 2:40:55 PM

When you train as a sniper it is in your best interest to construct a well concealed 'Hide'. In other words, improvising something like a car isnt something peculiar to terrorists.

In other words, technically, for a sniper it fits the mission profile.

Posted by: Napolean | Aug 31, 2006 2:45:06 PM

It is clear that this slime ball would be here in the USA shooting innocent women and children in the back, head, etc.. If they want to die killing americans (or any other innocent muslim man/woman/child), it is time to take away their ticket to heaven and start using pig fat lubricated bullets, rockets, mortars and bombs in our weapons.

Once the fear of going directly to hell takes hold, the islamic terrorists will stop. I wonder what the effect lard has on a M-16 gun barrel?

God bless our troops,
tmblweed

Posted by: tmblweed | Aug 31, 2006 2:45:34 PM

You can't fight an "ALL OUT" war anywhere and have to worry about the civil rights of your enemy or civil rights groups that insist on having a humane war...war is inhumane and unfair by nature. Our enemies sure don't worry about our civil rights.

They fight with an "everything and anything is fair in war" attitude. So should we... for the sake of our own troops.

The most you can do for the civilian population is to warn them to get out, to not associate with the enemy or violently confront authorities in any way otherwise they suffer the consequences.

You most certainly cannot fight an insurgency if you need probable cause to detaine a suspect and cannot charge his supporting family and friends with conspiracy in the involement of the crime committed by the insurgent. They also need to pay the consequences otherwise they will keep supporting another family member or friend and know they will not have to face justice.

The main purpose of declaring a "state of war" should be to "facilitate" the curbing of civil rights and imposing a "marshall law" status to identify and sieze or eliminate those that would kill us or anyone without any second thought.

You can't have it both ways and expect a short term resolution.

Tony Santos

Posted by: Antonio Santos | Aug 31, 2006 2:45:35 PM

I agree with Napoleon and Andy. We should make it clear, militarily, we will not jeopardize the lives of our dearly loved and respected men and women, who we believe are honorable and well intentioned, in order to placate some nebulous and ill conceived global politic's (United Nations)notions of political correctness. Certainly diplomacy must and should go on to resolve this quagmire, but always from a position of undeniable capacity to use overwhelming and deadly force to protect the legitimate purposes and lives of our armed forces' personnel.

Posted by: Ronnie | Aug 31, 2006 2:58:19 PM

In reference to Napolean comment...AMEN brother. You hit the nail on the head!

In order to win a war decisivily you have to bring your enemy do its knees and that has not been done since WWII. I know our soldiers are following orders and God Bless Them, but going door to door is not the answer. Any country that we are at war with has to be brought down with no mercy.

Posted by: Ben | Aug 31, 2006 2:58:38 PM

Remember, we are at war. Therefore, the sniper feels it is his duty to take-out the enemy. Just as our snipers feel about taking out an eligible target. This is combat!!!!!! Pure and simple.

Posted by: Harry S. | Aug 31, 2006 3:23:36 PM

That guy in the photo can't be the sniper. He's too fat to fit in the trunk. Nice black eye though.

Posted by: greggo | Aug 31, 2006 3:42:33 PM

From the picture, there isnt a food shortage in Iraq. Get our troops out of there.

Posted by: alan | Aug 31, 2006 3:42:37 PM

Re: the suggestions that every crime against our soldiers warrants carpet-bombing:

Here is what is known about much of the population of Iraq--it is oriented towards family tribes and religious sects, and sees vengeance upon those who murder those within their family/religion not as a matter of courage but a matter of course. Here is what is unknown directly to us Americans--living in a hellish warzone created at least in part by outside forces, facing death in the form of an American bomb or bullet, insurgent attacks, and religious death squads.

Given what these murderers in Iraq are doing to our brave young men and women, I can fully appreciate the anger and desire for revenge on our parts. Given, however these knowns and unknowns, for the life of me I cannot understand how bombing an entire town or a public execution of someone's father/brother/son, especially in a country like Iraq, would do anything other than bring more Iraqis into the anti-American fold. Nor do I understand how it would scare the bad guys or future bad guys into submission, given that the few times our troops did go overboard served as recruitment tools for the insurgents and motivation to kill for grieving family members.

I am certainly not saying that we need to "cut and run; I am simply curious about the logic behind vengeance-fuled fire fighting vengeance-fueled fire.

Posted by: Chris | Aug 31, 2006 3:43:51 PM

Thats a lot of talk. Just because the guys says he shot 31 Americans doesn't mean he did - and it doesn't mean they all died. Maybe this guy is like the Pedophile, claiming things he really didn't do to aggrandize himself in the eyes of others. War is a dirty business, no doubt about it - but if these fights aren't fought now they will be later - and who is to say our losses wouldn't be greater later? If Roosevelt had come into WW2 on the side of the British when it first broke out (Sept 1939) and not wiated until just after Pearl Harbor (Dec 1941) how many millions of people might not have died? How many hundreds of thousands of Americans might not have died?

While its stupid to be a monday morning quarterback or just to follow the pro-war or anti-war sides blindly, sometimes action is better than inaction. History shows us that inaction is always worse than action and leads to more death.

Has 60% of our country forgot what John Kennedy said? " Let every nation know, whether it wishes us well or ill, that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe to assure the survival and the success of liberty." If President Bush repeated those same words today democrats like John Kerry and Nancy Pelosi, Cindy Sheehan, and SLC Mayor Rocky Anderson would mock and deride him as an idiot, pushing an idiotic policy of agression.

There is an old saying "Those who forget history are bound to repeat it."

Posted by: Brent | Aug 31, 2006 3:47:00 PM

I must agree with the gentleman that says we should be fighting a war and not playing patty cake. We are losing our soldiers just like we did in Vietnam when we have the ability to make this a war that the enemy wouldn't ever forget or soon wish to enter another one. Politicians should stay with their area of expertise and let our Generals do what they have to do to win this war and bring our soldiers home. At what point did the US become the worlds keeper. We have plenty of opportunities here in the United States to help people achieve freedom. I am not opposed to helping our global community as long as we are taking care of our country first. Of course this is just my two cents.

Posted by: JR | Aug 31, 2006 3:50:08 PM

Before we get to offended by these snipers, let's remember that if another foreign country had come to the US and overthrown our "oppressive" government to give us "freedom", there would be a bunch of us out there shooting their soldiers.

Bottom line. Our soldiers are being asked to ask a mediators and enforcers for a sectarian civil war that began hundreds of years ago. It is a no win situation, as long as our military is hand-cuffed on executing the mission. The people of Iraq would love the gift of freedom that we are offering but the religious factions (guided by Saudi Arabia and Irans) in Iraq are to concerned with revenge and hatred to accept the opportunity.

My tactical approach would be to remove all western reporters from the country, Implement a prohibition on all motor vehicle activity, confiscate all weapons (only US and British military may have weapons), failure to surrender all weapons is an admission that you are a combatent covered by the Geneva convention (surrender and be treated fairly or die), No building religious or governmental may be leveled if hostile fire is received. Take the handcuffs off and let our boys win the fight or get them the hell out of harms way.

Posted by: Boo Man | Aug 31, 2006 3:59:54 PM

Daily as the violence is increased each day, as the right wing rhetoric continues, I wonder how can our government allow our children and innocent Iraqi'a suffer death and destruction ever increasing each day? The answer is clear: Greed, selfishness, and a desire to control the world as the money rolls in, For Halloburten and other buddies of our administration!
They have brazenly opened up the Gates of H--L to annother VietNam!
The lives of Americans and Iraqi's have been invaded by a group of organized hoodlums which have no campassion for those of a different color, race, or social level as them. They have STOLEN TWO MAJOR ELECTIONS and if the Democrats to not get control of the House and Senate soon we very well may end up in World War 3!
To connect the War in Iraq to the devastation at the World Trade Center is a slap in the face to our country and the World that mourned with us. I have always wondered why after the 1st plane slammed into Tower One, why the airspace was not evading the 2nd plane to slam into Tower 2. I was home with pnemonia at the time and watched this all unfold.I have been asking, WHY AFTER THE FIRST HIT WE MADE NO MOVE OR ACTION TO SHOOT DOWN OR AT LEAST TRY AND INTERCEPT THE 2ND, 3RD, & 4TH DISASTERS? I am begging to think that our President either decided to allow this to unfold w/o any action taken, or more sinister, had some part in this. What a cooincidence Senior Bush was with a Bin Laden member at the time.What an evil web they weave.The Bin Ladens were politely whisked away to safety at our expense. "I HEAR THE VOICES" and I say, let's really evaluate what future we want.I will vote and I hope that others do also to GET THIS ADMINISTRATION OUT!!

Posted by: Ilene | Aug 31, 2006 4:02:39 PM

Tie each of these two snipers to a pig, then shoot off their hands and feet, and finally hang them to die!

Posted by: edwards | Aug 31, 2006 4:04:58 PM

Is the point of war to kill anyone and everyone who either intends to do us harm or might want to at some point in the future? If it is, then in the case of Iraq would it mean the United States simply bombing the whole nation into oblivion? Given the ethnic and religious ties and revenge-driven blood lust that is inherent to that culture, literally destroying the country of Iraq seems like the only true fulfillment of the full-blast military theory

Posted by: Chris | Aug 31, 2006 4:09:05 PM

Me, I'd interrogate him so hard he passed out and stick an rfid chip in his ear (or a convienent location) to track him. Then put him in a condition to escape and track him to the real killers. The supposed spiritual leaders who dupe these poorly educated fools into fanatisism.

Posted by: Redvette | Aug 31, 2006 4:13:37 PM

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