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United States, Landmine Producer: In Good Company?
August 07, 2006 12:48 PM
As more and more countries refuse to produce landmine weapons, the United States is currently producing the first of such weapons in over 10 years.
Nicknamed "the spider," this new weapon puts the United States on the same short list of nations that includes Iran, North Korea and Burma, a list of countries producing landmine weapons banned by an international treaty.
Scott Stedjan of the U.S. Campaign to Ban Landmines says continuing to develop these weapons is irresponsible. "A weapon should be detonated by a conscious action of an individual," says Stedjan. "If it's not, children can walk into the minefield and be blown away. Innocent civilians can be blown up."
The Ottawa Mine Ban Treaty, an international treaty to ban landmines, has been signed by 151 countries. The United States has refused to sign it, citing the need for the U.S. military to have flexibility in war operations.
But Stedjan says the U.S. policy sets a bad example and puts the country in dubious company with rogue nations. "Other countries who continue to use mines and have lots of affects in their countries, they hide behind the United States," says Stedjan. "The United States action provides cover for them."
In a statement, the Pentagon told ABC News, " The [Department of Defense] will continue to pursue the development of munitions that fall within the law. Nobody wants to see innocent civilians killed by non-discriminating munitions" and that if the remote control option is taken off during battle, the mine has a "self-destruct timer." The Pentagon, however, wouldn't say how long after a battle the mine would self-destruct.
A bi-partisan Senate bill has now been introduced to halt production of the controversial "spider" mine.
August 7, 2006 | Permalink | User Comments (27)
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What do we plant in the battlefields....."Lolly Pops". They are programmed to self-destruct by a predetermined or remote setting and I'm sure these are engineered with precision quality. Not to worry.
Posted by: FlimFlamMan | Aug 7, 2006 1:09:24 PM
I hear there are some engineers from the Big Dig that are looking for work?
Posted by: Steve | Aug 7, 2006 1:36:55 PM
Wow, such a short mention of the actual specifics of the new land mine. The thing is only active during a battle, it is detonated by remote control, it is easy to locate for removal, and if the remote control receiver is tampered with it will self destruct. I sure wish the reporter would have gone into more details on those features, because it seems like a pretty civilian-safe mine to me. A lot safer than, say, a Jihadist with a bomb strapped to his chest in a crowded plaza, for example.
Posted by: Tom | Aug 7, 2006 1:52:05 PM
Did you make ANY attempt to ask the DOD why they are making them?
Any at all?
Posted by: Rick | Aug 7, 2006 2:56:55 PM
Liberals...
Posted by: Grant Thompson | Aug 7, 2006 3:50:21 PM
Oh My! Bush must be thinking if you can't beat 'em join 'em. The US is in the axis of evil. There must be a change in November.
Posted by: Sandra | Aug 7, 2006 4:15:34 PM
You know I had lunch with some liberals the other day and I showed them some footage of High Tech weaponry taking out the Taliban in Northern Afghanistan. (Predator was relaying Real Time data to adjust artillery fire on fleeing Taliban). My Liberal friends did not want to watch the video because it did not show Americans getting killed either. I feel like People in this country want to see out U.S military fail, and do not want us to have "High Tech Weaponry" because it is unfair to our enemies. mj.
Posted by: Mike jones | Aug 7, 2006 5:42:42 PM
ahhh landmines!! im glad we make these things..... couldnt hurt to set them up alone our southern border now could it ? ?
Posted by: mlodata | Aug 7, 2006 7:42:44 PM
This isn't a liberal issue. I don't believe you had lunch and showed a video, either. The issue is that hundreds of thousands of mines are buried in poor areas of the world and innocent people step on them years after they were buried because the armies that put them there didn't and won't pick them up. If sympathizing with that makes you a liberal, then call me a 'liberal'.
Posted by: Ban mines | Aug 7, 2006 8:31:47 PM
What are these liberals mentally connected to.?? The liberal news media shows scenes of blood and death (at times exaggerated) of civilians in Lebanon, stooping so low as to using doctored photos to promote Israel and the USA as the evil ones. The sick part is that they are accountable to no one. They can say what they want, show what they want and the world is silent. I think the majority of American people have had their fill of this garbage. The November elections will reflect this. As the saying goes "You can fool some of the people some of the time"...etc...etc.
Posted by: FlimFlamMan | Aug 7, 2006 9:24:04 PM
what good is a landmine going to do on a modern day battlefield...if an M1 tank can distroy an enemy from 5+ miles away...why do we need landmines....but i do like the southern border idea...very nice
Posted by: ben | Aug 7, 2006 11:33:53 PM
I can't believe the US is still producing landmines. We should not be outsourcing our wars to computers and traps. There should always be a trained discriminating human to decide when to pull the trigger. For every innocent civilian we kill fighting bad guys we just create more bad guys. I don't care how many safety precautions they put on mines some will fail and kill innocent people.
Posted by: Ryan | Aug 8, 2006 9:02:40 AM
FlimFlamMan,
I think the saying you're referring to is an old saying in Tennessee -- I know it's in Texas, probably in Tennessee -- that says, "Fool me once, shame on ... shame on you. Fool me -- can't get fooled again."
Sorry, couldn't resist.
Posted by: Will R | Aug 8, 2006 10:04:26 AM
Well it's not a big deal, considering the Bush administration are already some of history's worst war criminals. What's another set of murderous crimes against humanity? And what "liberal media"? You mean the "liberal media" who fell right in line with the administration's lies? I am amazed at the ignorance posessed by some "Americans". I recently saw a poll that showed that some Americans still think Iraq had WMD. The intelligence organizations of every coalition member in the Iraq campaign has released reports that show this was never the case. The downing street documents along with the on camera testimonies of high level US and british officials prove that this administration "fixed" the intel on Iraq. This is treason. Our soldiers have died over blatant lies. People who support this administration are either: 1. Ignorant of the facts, or 2. Cowards afraid to even exersize their basic rights under the constitution to hold accountable officials who commit such crimes.
Posted by: David | Aug 8, 2006 10:13:27 AM
when about 50% of americans still believe that there are Weapons of Mass Destruction in Iraq; when a good proportion still think there's a connection between Saddam and Bin Laddin, i would have to disagree...i guess you can fool most of the people most of the time..just ask Mr. Bush..
Posted by: areyouforreal | Aug 8, 2006 10:19:47 AM
The US is on the wrong side of this issue just like we're on the wrong side of Kyoto. We choose not to sign treaties the rest of the world recognizes as sane and logical because we don't have to. And I don't care if there are 'safeties' built into this new device, it's still a landmine, and the Army can live without them. Some defense contractor will just have to find another way of blowing someone else up.
Posted by: Chris Evans | Aug 8, 2006 10:28:47 AM
I would have to disagree with FlimFlamMan...since close to 50% of americans still believe that there are Weapons of Mass Distruction in Iraq; when a good proportion of the same still think that there were ties between Saddam and Bin Laden before the invasion of Iraq.. i would have to say..that, apparently, in the USA, you can fool most of the people most of the time! By the way, "Liberal" is not a dirty word. It is pretty sad when you need to filter reality through lens of political ideology. if you're so paranoid about the "liberal media", i suggest you watch foreign newscasts see how the rest of civilization views your actions..
Posted by: is this a joke | Aug 8, 2006 10:31:25 AM
As I recall, it was the Liberal Clinton administration that refused to sign the Ottawa Ban Mine Treaty. They did so as they felt they needed complete flexibility in deterring and repelling a North Korean attack of it's southern neighbour. I consider myself a liberal and a Canadian one at that. You don't need to be a liberal or conservative to see the logic of deploying a weapon capable of gaining precious hours to defend a democratic South Korea (where I currently reside), from one of the cruelest totalitarian regimes the the world has known in modern times.
Posted by: stevinkorea | Aug 8, 2006 12:29:24 PM
Aren't land mines used for perimeter protection? Where / what / and who are we protecting? Oh I know......we're just making 'em for someone else to use on us.
Posted by: dreek | Aug 8, 2006 12:39:17 PM
The folklore saying goes:
(Apparently Abe Lincoln NEVER said one of his most famous quotes:) "You can fool all the people some of the time and some of the people all of the time, but you cannot fool all of the people all of the time." Bingo..
Posted by: FlimFlamMan | Aug 8, 2006 4:20:07 PM
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