where are all the republican defending bloggers when stuff like this goes down- i guess stuff that can be divided partisin they just keep quiet on.

very easy for you to sa tim... and i do believe that this lets shot everything that moves attitude is what got us in trouble over... oh and the fact that this is a war based on lies.... look deep within yourself...

Same incident..
Loren Bradshaw told CTV Newsnet late Thursday that while three of five gunner humvees sped away from the ambush, two of them travelling behind Wheeler's stalled truck stayed and fought. If they hadn't, Bradshaw said he believes all the drivers may have been killed.

FYI the trucks they drive stall it takes 3-5 min for the systems to reset b-4 you can restart the truck....

The way to go is to get the h--- out and let the other countries of the region deal with the crap Bush created. You people who think we are the only ones to solve the world problems have way too big of egos. The world did not fall to communism after we ran out in Viet Nam! Wake up we are spending our childrens money over there for what? WMDs Freedom my hat, it's a joke and so are those who bought the Bush line.

I find it amazing that so many are so "knowledgeable" about this incident just from this one report. The fact is, you don't know all the facts. You don't KNOW that Halliburton or its subsidiaries are "sleazy" or poorly run, or just in it for the money. What I DO know is that we have civilians over there doing a job that most people won't (i.e., YOU all who are here complaining), and they are getting paid extremely well for it. They are told about the hazards, risks, and are giving in-depth training and safety gear, etc. prior to going over. They are there serving our soldiers who are serving YOU who are busy griping and whining. Get off of your high horses people and learn the TRUTH.

I have complete sympathy for anyone
killed or injured in Iraq but US
military should not be put in the position of providing security for
private companies that are lining their pockets at the expense of the
American taxpayers. Their no-bid
contracts should afford them ample
money to provide their own security
and armament on their vehicles.

I was a machine gunner on an Armored Personnel Carrier (APC) during the Vietnam war. My unit escorted convoys near and around the Black Virgin mountain. When ambushed you are to get out of the kill zone as quickly as possible then regroup and go back to rescue or flank the bad guys. The APC in question did no wrong by driving out of the ambush. Though they should have gone back in or done something to extract any survivors. The drivers should have had armed guards in the cab.

Iraq, what a @#%$$^ mess!

MikeVet

How we all like to place blame on others when things don't go the way we want them to. Are any of yall in their position? You think you know so much. Put yourself in there position and then speak.
Our military is fighting for our freedom and Halliburton is a fine company that is working for the good of our country and Iraq. Unless you have been there and have experienced it, speak words of encouragement to all our men and women of the military, and those who are over there trying to make more money so life will be easier for their own families here at home. Our Military joined knowing the risk involved and those who went to work over there to earn extra also know the risk they face over there as well. Stop the blame game and lift up our country and our men and women who are TRYING to do what is right.

First and foremost, my heart goes out to these people who died so tragically.

I am not surprised at the Halliburton. They are in for the money only just like good old Dick Cheney and his “boy” George Bush. As of today there are only 846 days until a new and real President is sworn into office. From what a recall in my Politics class, the definition of “politician” is one what is in office to benefit the citizens. This was never the case since day one when the “good old boys” took office on 1/20/2000. I cannot wait for a real President to take office on 2009. The want OIL, OIL, OIL………

I JUST CAME BACK FROM IRAQ AND I HAVE NEVER HEARD OF A SOLDIER RUNNING FROM THE ENEMY IN AN APC UNDER FIRE. NO I JUST DON'T BELIEVE IT. LOUIS

I have to agree that the soldiers wimped out. They should have at least grabbed the drivers then fled. Haliburton is a company reaping large amounts of cash from the citizens and sending others to their deaths. If I was President they would be fired and banned from doing government business for 15 years.
Steve

Not amazing at all that Americans don't see that this is the logical outcome of driving enemy trucks through neighborhoods.

Imagine we've been invaded by another country, China for instance, and you see chinese big rigs coming down your alley....you waving them by or shooting them?

The use of "these guys" and murderers is more proof that Americans can't handle the reality of their assault on Iraq. It wouldn't be the same song if it were on YOUR territory would it?

The contractors' lives are as valuable as anyone's, but they shouldn't be there trying to rake in money while walking on the blood trails of this failed war.

Don't want to get shot? Don't put yourself in a position to get shot.

We needs laws in place that even a security person from Halliburton or anyone else in the company at any level that even suggests destroying video or anything of this nature serves jail time if it is proven.
These people need to have some serious fear ingrained into them and not assume there is not a price to be paid. Heck with fines, hard prison time.

We don't know what kind of force they were up against. Had they just turned around and shot everything that moved there could have been a lot more dead soldiers and civilians. This is why essential military functions should not be done by private companies.

The U.S. military is a far cry from what it use to be. In Nam, they wouldn't have left those men to die. The soldiers there were cowards, the likes of which I've never seen. What have you learned, Dorothy?

I am a soldier in Iraq and I have never read about this incident. If the Striker in the front of the convoy took off it was because of SOP. There is a rally point or regroup point. They get out of danger and call in for air support. Once they have confirmation of support from QRF or air support they will go back in to engage the enemy. This is how it is done. If you just stay there then you could get blown up by an IED or RPG fire and what would that prove. Two or three civilians were killed what do you expect it’s a war zone, but the rest of the convoy was saved. Compared to other wars our country has been involved in we have done an outstanding job in keeping the death toll to a minimum. Either civilian or military personal. Compare this to WWI, WWII, Vietnam, or the Korean wars. In these conflicts tens of thousands of soldiers and civilians lost their lives. Lets keep this war in perspective. This war has made history in warfare and combat controlled fighting.
As for KBR. When I first read about the company before I was deployed I also had serious questions on how this company operated. Now I have first had experience of KBR and their operations. If we did not have KBR here our quality of life would be hell. Complete hell... This company does everything for us so we can concentrate on the job at hand. Keeping the country of Iraq safe. This is not an easy task. Guerrilla warfare is the hardest type of warfare to fight against. The enemy looks like the local people and we have a very difficult time in separating the two.
God bless our troops and our country.

I was in Iraq for 11 months as a Infantry soilder, conduction many missions wich included convoy escorts. My Company never left a civilian alone, especially during an ambush. It is unfair to judge the soilders when none of you people were there. I'm not defending what the soilders did because if they did leave the civilians to die, shame on their comander, not the soilders.

Further more all civilian contractors know they could be killed at any moment. Wether it be by friendly fire or the enemy. I personally think they need to be carring some form of weapons and vests.

ONCE AGAIN I POST THIS FROM ANOTEHR INTERVIEW WITH A CANADIAN CONTRACTOR THERE...

Loren Bradshaw told CTV Newsnet late Thursday that while three of five gunner humvees sped away from the ambush, two of them travelling behind Wheeler's stalled truck stayed and fought. If they hadn't, Bradshaw said he believes all the drivers may have been killed.

THEY DID NOT ALL LEAVE..2 MILITARY VEHICLES STAYED TO FIGHT!

I have never seen anything so cowardly in my life. Trained soldiers leaving defenceless men to die. This is not a war, this is a farce, ran by a bunch of incompetent has been's. Is there ever going come a time when our boys are going to fight and die but taking the heart along they need to win!! And as for Haliburton firing the truck driver, go figure, Cheney, you and your wanna be's are the disease allowing good people to die for what? Just to loose again! What ever happened to heart, courage, and the belief in what you were putting your life on the line for, had purpose! Because they simply don't believe in what they are doing! If they did, the ememy would be afraid to fight. Our good men would kick ass. Instead, once again, another Vietnam! Never learned a thing from that farse! And the citizens of the countries fighting over there should feel safe in your hands. What a joke!