This is a farce. This is what this country gets for making deals with the devil. If ever this country was to deal islam a death blow, i would not be surprised if by some wave of the hand that Pakistan and Iran hand over their nuclear weapons to some islamic group to reek havoc on the world.

I can't believe this. This is yet another victory for Al Qaeda and the Taliban and a painful blow for US Forces. Well, perhaps not. It's not like Pakistan was doing anything to help. They've been harboring bin Laden for several years now. Pakistan is pro-jihad, apparently.

Since this region is still a part of Pakistan, this puts Pakistan back into the A-list of nations sponsoring, or at least permitting, terrorism, on their soil, like Syria. The bright spot, as far as I suspect, is that Pakistan has a private deal with the US to let the US grab its nukes if a taliban revolution occurs in that country. But deals can change.

Good well written story. This country did what was best for themselves. The Islam terrorist
will not stop until defeated.
We are just so blessed to have
a real leader in charge.
God bless our President a man
with real courage. A man of history, honor and fortitude.

So what does the Bush administration have to show for now? How can one stay the course? How many more Americans does he need to send to their death before he recognizes his policy is inflexible in dealing with a forever changing enemy?

A day for Democrats to rejoice.

Pakistan is ruled by a military dictator who, post 9/11, gave the United States just enough semblance of assistance in the war on terror to keep us at bay. In reality, the country is our enemy, it is a bastion of Islamofascism and a safe-haven for terrorists bent on the destruction of our nation. If Bush had maintained our strong military presence in Afghanistan and demanded entrance into Pakistan, instead of recklessly and stupidly entering into a protracted war with Iraq, we would have crippled the Taliban and Al Quaida. Instead, Afghanistan threatens to regress under NATO control and Pakistan's government has retreated from engaging the terrorists, creating a defacto terrorist state-within-a-state, not unlike Hezbollah in Lebanon.

It sure looks like we're "Choosing Up Sides" - Better to find out who your Friends are now than in the heat of battle -

Gee,
You would have thought with the magnificent leadership of GW Bush that something like this could never happen.

Militant Islam is winning...

I'll bet you can take a guess at where we're going to sentd our military next. I always figured that this would happen. The biggest reason that things like this happen is because some D.S. from about 60 years ago figured that we were civilized and needed rules of engagement. tThat was the only mistake that was needed to put us in this situation. These people have probably never laid an eyeball on the rules of engagement that a US soldier has to adhere to. They already proved how far they will go to win. Here is a piece of advice that is free to any who will read it and take it to heart. The only way to defeat these fanatics,loonies, or dunderheads is to exterminate any who (no matter who they are man, woman, or child)feels that their way of violent life will be tolerated by a global society that is tired of these fanatics running amok!!

Musharraf is riding a tiger that it is difficult for most of us to imagine - this is not that surprising. Pakistan will be a problematic place for many years to come. The best hope is the rising standard of living there - but the Iraqi insurgents have shown how easy it is to undermine even that.

Pakistan is a country that promotes terrorism. The 'war' they were fighting was just a bluff. NUKE'EM sez I

If the Pakistan military can't stand up to the Taliban and have to resort to ASKING them to be nice, then we certainly could decide to ignore the Pakistan government when they ASK us to stop bombing the heck out of the Taliban strongholds.

This is not at all surprising. Unless US military personnel in tens of thousands go into Pakistan's bordering region with
Afghanistan, US will never be able to root out Taliban and Al Quaida. US must understand that Pakistan is not their ally, Pakistan is the devil in the face
of an ally. 99.9% Pakistani military is sympathetic to Islamic radicalism and extremism. Entire Pakistani intelligence service is sympathetic to Islamic
radicalism and extremism. Entire population of the region bordering Pakistan and Afghanistan is heavily sympathetic to Islamic extremism and radicalism.
Entire population in that region is tremendously hostile to US and western civilizations. US has "outsourced" the job of hunting down Taliban and Al Quaida to Pakistani military, and it's a joke. If US thinks that Pakistani intelligence service and it's military will hunt down Taliban and Al Quaida leadership
which is hiding in Pakistan, then US is day-dreaming. Pakistan's Parvej Musharraf very well knows that until Taliban and Al Quaida is there in Pakistan, he
will continue to get US support, financial and military aid and precisely that's why neither he not his military is serious about hunting down Taliban and Al Quiada leadership which is hiding in Pakistan. To, members of US Administration and US Congress, don't you ever forget that it's been 5 years since 3000 of my
brothers and sisters were brutally murdered at WTC by these Islamic terrorists and their supporters who are stiil in Pakistan, it's time for US to stop day-dreaming and take a very strong stance against Pakistan. It's time for US to tell Pakistan either you root out Taliban and hunt down Al Quaida or we are
coming in.

Your response shows that you have the 'we-them' mentality which the media and the neocons in our government promote.
It's in their interest to demonize the country they want to invade and control.

Just google Carlyle Group, Operation Northwoods, Gulf of Tonkin and Project for a New American Century. You may be surprised that the middle eastern nations are not the only 'reekers of havoc.'

Do your homework - and wake up.
The devil is in the details.

Yes you can't buy frends and make a
deal with the devel.Let all nations
know that we are attacked from your
area or country that pert will be a parking lot.We have the means it's time to use it or forget it.that way the local goverments no what,t to come if they don,t control
their country.Or baybe we should of dominated the area and taught them how to follow our rules.

I feel sorry for my US friends. For years your administration has been siding with Pakistan (a religious dictatorship) against India (world's largest democracy).

It looks like you just got the mother of all bitch-slaps. What exactly did you expect? A lot of Indians have sore faces right now from laughing too much today.

GO AHEAD AND KEEP OUTSOURCING JOBS OVER THERE, TOO WHILE YOUR AT IT. THAT'S WHAT I HAVE TO SAY TO OUR GOVERNMENT. FOR ALL WE KNOW, OSAMA IS ONE OF THE CALL TAKERS IN THE CALL CENTER ALONG W/ HIS BUDDIES. MAKES ME REALLY SICK TO MY STOMACH

Different communities handle adverse situations in different ways. How can America expect that a country or people not directly impacted by the effect of the Taliban or Osama would be immune to ongoing and escalating pressure from internal and external sources.

As per the article, once the solution is found to be hollow, Pakistan will again engage the outside regime exerting control and influence.

However, history will again repeat itself, as a majority of the community will not be educated or aware of violations of previous agreements or the grevious activities of Pakistan's infestation of foriegn regimes.

When you lay with dogs don’t be surprised when you get bit by fleas.

bad news but typical of Pakistani Army. Well, it has to be a CIA war from now on. secret, proxy, and even more brutal with plenty of B2 strikes from Kansas and Missouri but without regular soldiers in the fight.

Why should Iraqi children, Afghani women and Pakistani soldiers die because Bush has a cowboy fantasy about Jesus beating the evil Islamists? This "war" is no more about Islam than Timothy McVeigh was about Christianity--it is a way to sell a product (an endless and profitable war) to Americans. Pakistan is already paying a heavy price for helping the U.S. stir this nest of criminal terrorists. It needs to become sovereign again.

This is yet another pin in the USA voodoo doll. Sistani backs away in Iraq...Blair is about to get booted out of office....now Pakistan is no longer assisting the US in tracking down bin Laden.

Sounds like it's not just the American voter losng confidence in the Busheviks.

By the way, it's "wreak" havoc....not "reek" havoc.

Okay! Okay! I promise we'll be good citizens now, yes? Oh, okay! Great! Talk to you later!

Did anybody expect anything else? We had our chance at Osama bin Laden and his leadership at the caves of Tora Bora. We let politics rule the day and he slipped away. His destruction at Tora Bora would have sent an unforgetable message. Instead we have Iraq and the extremists grow stronger.

This is why the U.S. needs to get out of the 'World Police Dept.' business. All those american lives lost, and for what? Absolutely nothing, it would seem. C'mon, dubya! Wake up and smell the coffee. You'd have better luck trying to vacuum up all the sand off the beach!

When you don't have a strategy, when you don't have the resources or the men or the money to carry out a mission successfully, you get bad results. Fighting in the mountains is strategically advantageous for al-qaeda, not for the US or Pakistan.

The idiots at the White House and the Pentagon did not evaluate the situation wisely and planned a very poor war.

Now, with the mess in Iraq, they want to tackle Iran and N. Korea? Give me a break!

Afganistan has increased it's poppy cultification for heroin a significant amount this past season, They will undermind the United States just by making a drug available that kills and takes away our values.

TALIBANISTAN

A gift from g. w.'s closest parnter in his war. A safe haven for Bin Laden.
Thanks a gain another great choice
first atomic scerets sold to Korea. Biilions in aid and arms
that could used against us or sold to those who will.You sure can pick them.

Seems like things are going backwards. We invaded Iraq because of a "threat" but not one terrorist to hit America or Britain or Spain is Iraqi. Pakistans and Afghans are terrorists, but we have cordial relations with their governments. What's wrong with this picture?

it a sad commentary when a nation make a deal with murderers. I've learned that taking the easy road out is not always the best road in the end. We still today have not identified nor understand the mentality of the enemy that threatens the free world. God help us!

We need to cut a deal with India. Thay attack Pakistan and keep on fighting west. We land on the beaches of Saudi Arabia (from the Red Sea) and keep on fighting east. We'll meet up with the Indian Army somewhere in the middle (like in the middle of Iran). Whatever ground India takes, they can have. Whatever ground the US takes, we keep. But bottom line requirement is that none of the islamic nut-cases in between get away. Scorched earth.

Who started all of this ... and WHO has profited with these strategies? Well, it certainly isn't the little fellow, who gets nothing except more heartache and death. If Bush thinks the world is winning after his selection in 2000 and in 2004, then I have some land I would like to sell you after his scorched earth policies ... that benefits no one. InTel just announced the loss of 10,500 jobs in America ... that's nothing in comparison to a bigger war that he would very much like to see against anyone he deems against democracy.

Meh... just adds one more to Axis of Evil... Syria, Iran, North Korea and Pakistan.

I am very sick of every country that we help with foreign aid, military protection, jobs etc...turning their back when the going gets tough. On the same note why do we keep giving to countries that are this way. Lets let Pakistan be Pakistan and France be France and let them drown in their own problems! The bottom line is no matter what we do "they" will not like us. We can be giving, they won't like us, we can be iron fisted, and they won't like us. So why try. Let’s be the USA and enjoy our good fortunes and let the other wallow in their own pools!!

are you kidding me!! osama is hiding in those mountains laughing at us! pakistan is harboring terrorists, but the administration seems to look the other way. same goes for saudi arabia, but instead of pressuring it and pakistan we dive headfirst into iraq!? this makes no sense to me.

again the truth comes out. a deal is struck, more alliances are changed...that which was descibed as "an all out effort on our countries' part" by the so called president of pakistan to "root out the agents of evil" becomes another heartbreaking farce...
clearly we cannot place any stock in what any "elected" official in the "birthplace of civilization" has to say... the most encouraging news of the day is that we have discovered another pocket of oil in the gulf of mexico...with alternative energy and new oil...do we really want to??

This just underscores once again why there needs to be a fundamental change in our U.S. foreign policy that has for decades relied on intervention -- it just isn't practical and won't work. We need to stop sticking our nose in other people's business.The people of the Middle East don't want us there. The "war on terrorism" is bogus -- it is not our war. If we withdrew our military completely from the region and had a more balanced policy on the Arab-Israeli issue we wouldn't have to worry whatsoever from the Islamic radicals. Guaranteed buddy.

Under Rove, Rumsfeld, Cheney, Rice, and Bush and their so-called "War on Terror" has been a complete failure. TIME FOR CHANGE IN OCTOBER, RIGHT? Vote Democrat!

again the truth comes out. a deal is struck, more alliances are changed...that which was descibed as "an all out effort on our countries' part" by the so called president of pakistan to "root out the agents of evil" becomes another muslim farce...
clearly we cannot place any stock in what any "elected" official in the "birthplace of civilization" has to say... the most encouraging news of the day is that we have discovered another pocket of oil in the gulf of mexico...with alternative energy and new oil...do we really want to??

These wars are waged against working and middle class Americans in the form of trillions in national debt. Where do you think that money went?

This region is just a waste of time and a way to get rich using-up military supplies and producing new ones. WHo do you think profits?

Unless you live somewhere (on the Paki-Afghan border for example), you don't rule the land, you're a target. No one knows this better than the US soldiers and agents that will go home - some alive some cripled, some dead or planted with the seeds of cancer from costly depleted uranium rounds they fire down range. The coffers of the politicians and their corporate buddies are re-stuffed until the next war POTUS is bought and paid-for.

We're all gonna die!! Ahhhhhhh!!!!!!!

We should be surprised? Given the number of terrorist that have been spawned in Pakistan - we should have expected this all along. At this point in time we should hope that the Iraqui Government can be left on their own in the near future, and we can bring our troops home - to re-equip and re-train, and then put the word out that ANY attack on American interest here or abroad will be grounds for an all out air campaign - we don't have to bomb them in submission - but we could set them back 20 or 30 years economically. This applies to every one - pull all foriegn aid or re-evaluate who recieves aid - cancel all commitments to the UN - the most ineffect body in the world - the time has come for us to quit trying to help further our own gains by wanting to promote world wide democracy - it obviousily isn't working - there will be no peace until the people living under the control of these terroist states decided they have had enough - we can hope for them but change has to come within - the time has come for the US to get out of the peace business.

First of all, Islamofascism is something that the President made up and it makes no sense. Truth of the matter is Islamic extremist, which are the individuals that perform many of the suicide bombings and terrorist acts, do this because of a strong belief that the white man is evil, wants to invade their land, and destroy their way of life. It seems as though that is exactly what is happening. So, can you really blame someone for trying to protect their families, children, and way of life; In order to protect and defend what they believe in and consider sacred. Some would call them heroes and many call them terrorist.

bush is an idiot

Jan. 20, 1981, Iran agreed to accept $8 billion in frozen assets and a promise by the United States to lift trade sanctions in exchange for the release of the hostages.

After 444 days in captivity, the 52 hostages flew out of Tehran to the Wiesbaden Air Force Base in West Germany. The announcement was made minutes after President Reagan was sworn in.

Should have Nuked them when you had the chance

This is a good move, Pakistanis were fighting Pakistanis based on misunderstanding and emotion. A complete waste of time and effort. Americans are getting the help they need in "War on terror" but Americans are so frightened that nothing is ever enough. Good move by Pakistan.

Some on this board infer our President threw in the towel. Go back and read the headline ya dolts! I only read "Pakistan" did!
And just something to ponder...ya think maybe it could be a ploy to get the Taliban to stretch their legs from hiding...just to be able to cut off their legs when they do come out/

with allies like this and an anti-war liberalist religion on the home front in 1945-- we would never have de-nazified europe.

This takes the world one step closer to PEACE and tolerance at last!!

As for the dumb racists plugged to the matrix and dreaming for wars, wake up and watch Syriana. If not, keep snoring...

This email was difficult to read. My son as done two tours in Afghanistan (Airborne) and lost his best friend and a teammate to these cross border raids. I feel as though we have failed.

Patience, one thing al queda and the taliban don't lack is hubris.Nothing in the memo said we were withdrawing our drones and spy satellites. If these insurgents feel a false sense of security and begin to move about there "area" more freely, America may just get it's wish. If it gets the rabbit out of the hole I'm all for it.

heck of a job bush

Score it and the foul! Nice. Remember when bush said we would smoke'em out? That was awesome. Looks like we're O for 2 in this war on terrorism. Hopefully other countries wont start poppin off now too -oh wait they are. Doh!

We need to make it much harder for A president, and politicians to go to war, or use violence in any form, rather than diplomacy to settle, and manage disputes, and misconduct by other Nations. We need a political paradigm shift. So that presidents, and politicians know that the surest way to not get reelected is to fail so miserably at foreign policy as to allow your country to be trapped in a costly war. That kills thousands of America’s finest, and tens of thousands of innocent civilians.

As the worlds ONCE great super power. America should have been the world example of the restrained careful use of force. Befitting a true super power. As things stand now, we Americans just look like stupid, out of control bullies. Who can be tricked into acting against our own best interest for the elusion of personal power, political position, and status. We look Like CHUMPS. Or should I say Chimps.

1) Musharaf has never completely controled ISI. He and ISI contest over the Military continuously.

2) Having spent time in Baltistan I can point out that the distance from there to Islamabad tends to mean that the Rule of the Government becomes tenuous at best. While there are MAJOR military bases in places like Skardu, once one gets to the end of the road in Askoli, the government is a LONG way away. And the effect of the Government is VERy muted.

This treaty, while sad is no surprise.

The left has reared its ugly head again, all of you "let's negotiate" idiots have more egg on your faces just ahead of the elections, all men, women,children, goats and horses over there are jihadists and should have been destroyed a generation ago, but no, they are multiplying and thriving because of the bleeding hearts over here. I am sure al-quada will show great restraint when they get a hold of some nukes, just like the "good citizens" that they are.

"Patience, one thing al queda and the taliban don't lack is hubris.Nothing in the memo said we were withdrawing our drones and spy satellites. If these insurgents feel a false sense of security and begin to move about there "area" more freely, America may just get it's wish. If it gets the rabbit out of the hole I'm all for it."

You think death from above, that costs millions and billions to maintain, can stop an endless flow of insurgent cells, with a few hundred bucks worth AK rifles and rounds, a few washing machine timers at $15 a pop and $50 worth of explosives?

Hubris indeed.

I wish the USA had a magic bullet, but the people of this region, as long as they live will never stop doing what they do.

No, I honestly don't feel any safer at this point.

If the USA wants to find Osama bin Laden and other top al Qaeda Operatives before Future Terrorist Attacks on America with WMD or Worse,America should use its Weaponery & Technology to Force the Surrender of Osma bin Laden. How?
Tell the Population "Hiding"/" Protecting" Osama bin Laden and his Band of Terrorist Thugs that America will make a 20 Mile Square Area uninhabitable for 200 Years-if Osma bin Laden does not "Surrender"[ or his Body shows Up] within 72 Hourse-Cruel? Uncivilizied? What is the Proper and Civilizied Response to Terrorism?-There is None.

Hey John B., ya "dolt," read this:

http://www.mercurynews.com/mld/mercurynews
/news/world/15419933.htm

"The Pakistani regime of Gen. Pervez Musharraf has been negotiating truces - with the Bush administration's encouragement - with Islamic separatists in North Waziristan and South Waziristan, mountainous tribal areas along the Afghan border where U.S. officials think bin Laden may be hiding.

In return, Pakistani officials are promising to restrict the country's troops in the area to major bases and towns and to pour huge amounts of aid - much of it from the United States and other nations - into the destitute region, according to American officials.

But as the truces take hold, separatists have been crossing into Afghanistan to fight alongside Taliban and al-Qaida fighters, according to Western and Afghan officials."

Did you read that? Now, look at it really closely:

WITH THE BUSH ADMINISTRATION'S ENCOURAGEMENT.

They are just tired of never-ending warfare and want to try something many keyboard warriors here hate so much:PEACE.
How much "revenge" or blood can you get before it is enough?There are people in Waziristan who want to herd their goats ,tend their fields and live a normal life.
Leave them alone!

The only amazing thing Bush has done, is hoodwink middle American lower socio-economical individuals into supporting him...and that ain't that hard to do I reckon.

Once again, Pakistan surrenders in war, and this time to the terrorists they were 'fighting against'

This development will not only bolster the regrouping of the Taleban in Afghanistan, but will increase the level of attacks against our Servicemen and women in Afghanistan as well as the Afghan and Indian people

Shouldn't a story about Pakistan ending the hunt for Bin Laden and signing a treaty with tribal leaders who protect him make front page news? (oh wait croc hunter and katie couric have that) Bush talks today about how we are winning the war on terrorism, this sounds like a set back to me, but that is ok, the Bush adminstration stopped looking for Bin Laden some time ago, the Pakis might as well do the same.

And then somebody puts this down. "We are just so blessed to have a real leader in charge. God bless our President a man with real courage. A man of history, honor and fortitude."

A man with the courage to send 3000 kids to die in a bs war that had nothing to do with terrorism. What history, the worst presidency in us history? Blessed? I can't imagine what a curse would be like?

Thanks democratic party for all you and the media's treason. No wonder our allies are bailing on us they know if Piglosi and murdertha get in power we are going to run like a week knee'd little mommas boy! All of the america haters will shout with joy, declair victory and expand their war on us. How many more americans here in the us and in the military must die, before you scumbags realize we are at war with an enemy who is willing to give the last drop of their blood to destroy the west, its culture and way of life?

This is not only a blow to our US Forces but an insult to our soldiers who have died trying to bring justice to the World's #1 Terrorist such as Honorable Patrick Tillman.. remember the NFL Player who gave his blood for our freedom? Whether friendly fire or not, he left his family and friends to fight for those who died on September 11, 2001. Remember this when you cast your ballot in November.. will you vote for the troops like Pat or the ones who want to give up the fight like the Pakistani thus thousands die in vain.. Rest in Peace Pat..

Pakistan does what Pakistan has to do. The U.S. isn't losing hundreds of soldiers in a small area of Afghanistan,the Pakistanis are. If Bush honestly had wanted to eliminate Bin Laden and his supporters - those who had attacked us - he would have done so and not started the worthless war in Iraq.

Pakistan is and always has been a terrorist state. USA has always supported for the last 50 years.

Pakistan is the real problem facing the world today. The Paki's have no clue what the world expects of them. Until Pakistan is invaded, terrorists will roam free in that country. It should never have been Iraq, it should always have been Pakistan after Afghanistan.

Now Paki's are busy screwing Afghans and American troops. Terrorism is the only export industry Pakistan has.

I feel so much safer now that the strong leadership of the Bush administration is winning this war on terra.

Pakistan IS the epicenter of terrorism, I am surprised that Americans are so dense to back a lame horse, or so vile to sleep with the enemy.

I like the post by: d on Sep 5, 2006 at 4:28:19 PM. Except Indians are not so dense to let the end result of such an action be the addition of filth (Islamic fundamentalism) to their population.

The Pakistan Intelligence service has been behind the growth of the Taliban since the 1970's. Just like George Bush not being able to clean out traitors from the CIA Pakistan can't clean out their people. With Pakistani A bomb the operatives seem to believe that no one will challenge them. After all Pakistan is ten time the size of Iraq. An exchange of WMD may be inevitable.

hey len cortigiano let me remind you something. Our soldiers are over there fighting maybe even dying because that way women and children dont die here when a bomb explodes here.(Maybe even when a plane hits a building). It really sucks that you have forgotten that! Its real simple: you either go over there and get them or they get us here. choose. remember all these people live for is to kill.

Musharaf and the Pakistani rulers have finaly showed their true face. To any one who knows the region never trusted their so called joining the war on terror. All they did was for their own gain. This is another game they are playing to get more money/arms from west. I am sure finally the would follow what Bush and the west wants them to do.

From the tone of some of the responses to the delima we are in, it would appear that the democrats think that they know how to deal with this. HA! HA! If Gore was in office, I wonder what the US would be doing now? We probably would we be fighting the battles on our own soil by now and Congress would be making laws to conserve trees or other things while
our enemies slowly bombed us out.

Isn't it amazing that "Men of faith" are the ones starting wars? Bin-ladin, Bush, Olmert, hezbollah's leaders......Maybe the problem is religion. Maybe religion is really just a collection of myths and like the myths of the 5th BC Greeks they will be recognized as stories trying to detail earthly events......I believe the world would be better off if everyone kept there religion to themselves instead of trying to ram it down everyone's throat.

The US set up the Taliban and AlQueda to 'defeat' the Russians - they organzied and brought 'freedom fighters' on the Border of Pakistan and Afghanistan - the Russians were beaten and now those very same people are killing Americans with American made weapons. It would seem to me that nothing is every learned from past mistakes - Iraq, Iran, and many more countries that have suffered under misguided polices of one president after another that never is about safety or about helping disenfranchised people but is about the almighty $$. In God we Trust - not likely.

If Musharaf and the Pakistani rulers had their way they would be an enlightened Islamic state like Turkey.

For example: A large proportion of the everyday people he struggles to govern are so primitive and ignorant they believe gang raping a woman is a proper and holy punishment approved by Allah.

They see Musharaf as evil for opposing such sadistic sexual barbarism and other equally sickening behaviors practiced in the name of Allah.

He's kinda stuck in the middle.

We may have to go into the new state of Talibanistan.

If he keeps trying he'll have a fundamentalist revolt from his own secret police and soldiers.