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Red Tape Fuels Raging Wildfire
September 20, 2006 11:21 AM
Bureaucratic red tape is preventing two planes modified for aerial firefighting from combating the wildfires raging today in California.
A DC-10 and a Boeing-747 "Supertanker," specially equipped with firefighting technology, have been waiting for days for the U.S. Forest Service and FAA to approve them to fight the rapidly spreading wildfires that have already consumed 84,035 acres.
Local residents are furious about the idle equipment that could potentially save their homes. "This is ridiculous. The Lockwood valley is already under a voluntary evacuation order, and there are a lot of elderly people living up there," said one resident who lives near Lockwood Valley, an area threatened by the fires.
The DC-10 was used by the California Department of Forestry with great success to fight a California fire in July on land under the state's jurisdiction, according to Rick Hatton, Managing Partner for 10 Tanker Air Carrier who owns the plane.
But this time the plane is grounded because the fire is on land under federal jurisdiction, and according to a U.S. Forest Service spokeswoman, the agency has not yet had time to give it federal approval.
In Marana, Ariz., the Federal Aviation Administration's paperwork is preventing the Boeing-747 Supertanker from taking action.
In this case, the Forest Service has already approved the plane, and it is ready to fly, according to Bob McAndrew, President of Evergreen, the company that owns the plane.
A spokeswoman for the FAA says the agency is finishing up the last couple of tests and that it hopes the aircraft will be ready to help fight the fires some time next week.
September 20, 2006 | Permalink | User Comments (25)
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I don't know squat about the bureaucratic red tape processes involved in this issue. I do know that 132 square miles (84,035 acres) of charred land involved is one heck of a lot of land to let burn before you render or sign a decision to get appropriate firefighting equipment in place. Let that fire come close to one of the 'i dotters - t crossers' home and watch the ink spread..........
Posted by: dreek | Sep 20, 2006 12:50:43 PM
I'm shocked, SHOCKED, to hear the Bush Administration is not reacting quickly to an emergency.
Posted by: Dave | Sep 20, 2006 3:52:24 PM
O....M....G!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: DAVID | Sep 20, 2006 4:04:30 PM
This is typical United States Forest Service - they behave this way on almost all issues - slow, slow, slow. Most employees are afraid to make decisions - they get nothing done.
Posted by: M Springer | Sep 20, 2006 4:04:44 PM
I retired from federal service so I have a good idea about red tape.
In this case, I blame the two Senators of CA. If I was one of them, I would form a tag team with the other Senator. One go to one Secretary level office and speak to him/her directly in their office. Say that they are putting a hold on their salaries until the planes are in operation and then do it.
You would see the red tape dissapear like magic.
Posted by: Bob Ramos | Sep 20, 2006 4:18:28 PM
Sounds like the Forest Service and FAA are now under FEMA's direction - or lack of it! You can bet your 'posterior' that if that fire were in TEXAS, those planes would have been airborn for days! Refueled and reloaded in the air!!
How many times are we gonna let this administration 'drop the ball' before we 'throw the bums out' as we used to say in Chicago???
Posted by: Barry | Sep 20, 2006 4:21:20 PM
This is ridiculous I guess as long as their house is not in the line of fire they will take their sweet time in the getting the paper done instead of expediting process... Ask me if they care?...
Posted by: Summer | Sep 20, 2006 4:23:54 PM
This is the Katrina of wildfires, so why should the government act any differently?
Posted by: Ann | Sep 20, 2006 4:26:52 PM
One would think that the
Federal Government would have learned something from Katrina.
I am beyond words....
Posted by: William | Sep 20, 2006 4:28:57 PM
A good question to ask is why isn'r the governor, and your state representatives ding something about it at the top level.probaly because they don't care the fire isn't on thier turf so they don't need to worry. This is just a small example of how weak this whole administration is when it come to the welfare of the common person.Katrina, Fires burning thousands of homes, levee's that are predicted to fail,insuficient equiptment for our troops, Thats the Bush Cheney legacy"we'll take it under advisement.
if 20,000 californians who live in the area would get on the phone and call their congress men and senators, and keep on calling until you get some help.Load them with mail and best of pray as we in the resat of the cuntry are doing for all of you in harms way
Posted by: Frank Seeley | Sep 20, 2006 4:36:02 PM
The determination of the airworthiness of the aircraft must be done correctly. The 'i-dotters and t-crossers' aren't doing that to keep busy. This story is intentionally worded to make it sound like a fed mix-up, but it's standard procedure. There are many other tools at the disposal of firefighting crews that also aren't being utilized properly, but it ain't as sexy to the MSM as the government standing in the way of salvation.
Posted by: Haywood Jablowmi | Sep 20, 2006 4:44:55 PM
This is crazy. The U.S Forrest Service is going to sit there while helpless elderly people are caught in the fire. Nice going, American Government.
Posted by: Molly | Sep 20, 2006 4:48:05 PM
Can't the govenor step in and say to hell with the bureaucrats, send in the planes?
Posted by: Duane | Sep 20, 2006 4:59:26 PM
Once more, the Bush admin blows it. How many people must suffer under this man? The fires are burning, everyone can see it on the news, but the planes are not OK'd yet??!! If the fires were in TX, I'll bet we would have 'em flying and fighting the fires 24/7.
Posted by: robco | Sep 20, 2006 5:01:48 PM
If this is indeed a red tape issue compounded by jurisdictional issues, the logical person to be involved is Rep.Elton Gallegly (US House 24th district)It may be in Rep. Galleglys best interest to start working the phone NOW if he has not already. I am a few miles from the fire and dont see any fixed wing aircraft, although there are close to 2300 firefighters from local state and federal agencies working this fire. The area is extremely remote and some areas have not burned in decades. The fire briefly threatened Fillmore, santa Paula and Ojai but has since moved North due to winds away from the main population centers. The fire is at best 20% contained as of Wed AM. Also this fire started labor day weekend...lots of time to get the folks together and bring together resources. Get on the phone to Gallegly's office. He is up for re-election, but faces no real challenge. This is his last stated term, and says he wont run again. He needs to throw his weight behind this issue if the ABC News Brian Ross story is the real deal.
Posted by: SO-CAL | Sep 20, 2006 5:32:21 PM
Hm-m-m-...this seems like a repeat of Katrina where we saw dead bodies floating around while the Bush's government stood around looking at each other...
Posted by: tokalion | Sep 20, 2006 5:41:32 PM
I am eagerly awaiting the docudrama that will tell me how this is all Bill Clinton's fault...
Posted by: Dave J. | Sep 20, 2006 6:00:52 PM
This is so stupid that it is not even a joke! Get rid of these people and put someone in place that that knows what they are doing and do it now.
Posted by: Barry | Sep 20, 2006 6:11:49 PM
This is sad. I just don't have words for my disgust in the "Leaders" of the State of California and the "Leaders" of this Country. Sounds like they want California to just burn.
Posted by: Don | Sep 20, 2006 6:36:10 PM
This is ridiculous. It is now Friday afternoon and smoke and ash are blowing back over Ojai. We need all the resources we can get. Please check out The Ojai Post (http://www.ojaipost.com/) for the most comprehensive Day Fire coverage.
Posted by: Tyler | Sep 22, 2006 7:48:29 PM
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