Commit a heinous crime... lose your freedom. Its actually rather simple.

i really think that Al Queda should not have done this to the american soldiers. i feel really bad for the american soldiers because they have to go through a lot of torture.

Hah! You call that torture? What the hell do you think is happening in some of these African and middle eastern countries. U.S. torture techniques are on the scale of boy scouts and sibling brothers.

hey y'all/......I did over 100 combat patrols in the sunni triangle....and what do you know....they liked me.....kind of weird....I just treated them like I would want to be treated.....gave the kids a great Xmas.....they loved it.....I would do it aghain.....

just as I thought...no guts.....who is runnig this show anyway???!!! ....some wanabe loser.....go post what I said....or enlist....oh....I also know somebody that was in the
Batan death march.....and he still marches every day......so post it.....

Dan: Yes, that is pretty much how it's supposed to work. That's what prisons are for. But in this case, it's more like "Be accused of a hideous crime or just look like someone who might do one, loose your freedom, be tortured, and never see the light of day or even a courtroom again."

LaRift: That's like saying that someone with multiple broken bones shouldn't be in pain because he wasn't boiled in acid instead. Yes, there are degrees of fear and pain, but it doesn't matter how the point of 'more than a person can take' is reached, it feels the same _at the time_. Trust me... I've had my own 'worst pain imaginable' value go up several times until a 48 hour natural childbirth has now been demoted to 'eh, no big deal' and gets only a 7 on my 1-10 pain scale. But at the time it happened, I would have done absolutely anything to make it stop. Which brings to mind the other important point -- when someone is in pain they will say _whatever_ the people causing the pain want to hear, whether or not it's the truth. They'll say they're guilty, that their mother is a terrorist, that they personally witnessed any name you want to mention sitting down to a breakfast of deep-fried babies... whatever you want them to. Which rather makes the 'information' obtained via torture completely unreliable.

As to the "bad guys do it, so why shouldn't we?" argument, there's a simple answer: Because we're not _supposed_ to be the bad guys, damn it. If we're not better than them, then why the hell are they the enemy?

You Americans are sickening.

I am a conservative. I am sick and tired of you liberal, pansy, white flag idiots who would surrender if given the chance. Let's just have another civil war and be done with it. We know who would win, because we have all the guns.

Torture is wrong.

The weak minded president who was asleep at the wheel & totally ignored the threat from Osama has taken a proud nation who did not need to torture and were ruled by the constitution and bill of rights and given into terrorists. He and his conversatives have given the terrorists EXACTLY what they wanted. He has made us change into a nation that routinely tortures and cannot keep our word regarding the Geneva Convention.

Why is Bush and his conservatives so weak? Every other president has been able to handle any other threat or foe who came our way. But not Bush and his weaklings. They have to hand the terrorists a tremendous victory.

We are less safe now and we are clearly losing bush's supposed "war on terror". The conversatives we sold a bill of goods by a weak man because they are also weak.

His legacy will be one of making our country less safe.

This is simple. All of you that do not like US policy you have two choices: 1) Get rid of your leaders through voting...and that means your local idiots because they virtually voted unanimously for the war (for good reasons at the time)OR GET THE HELL OUT...seriously, I am sick of each and every one of you whining your asses off about everything going on...DO SOMETHING!! Put up or shut up. This is not a Bush thing or a Cheney thing...this is a YOU thing. What you believe is only important if you do something about it and your choiced are above...SHUT UP.

When the United States turns to torture of prisoners we have already turned ourselves to the countries and people we have come to despise and hate. Personally I do not condone such action even if it may lead to my own death!

You may have the guns but your afraid to use them! Chaney, Draft Dodger, Bush, AWOL from National Guard so he could drink and dope out! Republican Congress has less than 15% that have served in the military! What are you going to do with the guns?

oh, boo hoo, my freedoms are gone...pleeease don't pour water on the terrorists...lol...

why is getting intel from a terrorist by kicking him such a big deal? Anyone? Please don't tell me that America has turned into a big bunch of wimps...

Being in the military, I find it disheartening to see a small percentage of the American public and our political leaders attempting to place a "blanket ban" on all torture methods. What we're dealing with is not conventional warfare. We are facing an enemy that is willing to sacrifice their own lives to see our imminent destruction. They don't abide by the laws of war outlined in the Geneva Convention and have no regards to the innocent lives of their own citizens. At what point are we, as America, going to develop a spine and come to the realization that when dealing with such a radical group, radical measures are needed to better improve the safety of myself and other soldiers serving our country overseas ensuring the safety of Americans on the homefront. By openly rejecting any proposed plan of effective interrogation, you have willingly doomed the lives of American soldiers, our allies serving alongside us, and innocent Iraqi civilians that could have otherwise been saved with the information gathered from these interrogations. I thank all of you who have rejected these interrogation plans. You have compromised my safety, and ultimately my life and the lives of everyone I serve with, for the sake of a terrorist's life. The next time you even contemplate about referring to yourself as an American, let alone a Patriot, please, do us all a favor and spare us the lie.

Nicely put Jacob. I for one would like to thank you for your service to OUR country, and appreciate your (and your family's sacrifice). It makes me shudder to think how weak some in this nation our...can you imagine the NY Times of now reporting on D-Day...it would have been a disaster...or Iwo Jima....my God FDR would have been hung that very afternoon.
War causes sacrifice and clearly the left in this country has no stomach for what it takes to keep them "safe and comfortable".
I'm at least grateful for having a President that at least has some idea of the enemy we are up against...Clinton just closed his eyes as we were attacked numberous times during his tenure.
For those that wish to close their eyes to that then do so but what is amazing his he didn't even see the war was upon us after the USS Cole was attacked. Excuse me but a attack on a warship is by definietion a act of war. I believe Pearl Harbor would be a good example.
Thank you for your service...some here do appreciate it.

Any way you read the Geneva Conventions, We are breaking them and deserve to be tried for War Crimes.
an example of this very thing when a Japanese officer, Yukio Asano, was tried in 1947 for carrying out a form of waterboarding on a U.S. civilian during World War II, and was sentenced to 15 years of hard labor.

So this is going to be a different point of view, since I am not Americian. Americian cirtizens need to sit back for a moment and see what the rest of the world thinks of them. Americians people for the most part are great people. Just like any other person, however they are given a bad name because of the powers that lead the country. Americians, as a nation are hated by many many many people. It's because of your big bully attitude and lack of education about the rest of the world. Americians are nothing but sheep that are led around and tought to beleive whatever stuff they are told.

idiots, we don't descend to their level, just because the 'terrorists' are breaching conventions doesn't mean we have to as well.

Thank you for your service Jacob. You are a great American. Unfortunately the biggest threat to your safety right now is the blind hatred that some people have of our President. They silently smirk when one of our brave troops is harmed, killed, or captured because they know it hurts the President politically.

The depths to which they will sink to ensure that terrorists succeed (inluding lobbying for a ban on successful interrogation techniques) sickens me. I'm glad that we are winning the war on terror despite the obstacles liberals put in the way.

I'm saddened and frightened that journalists at ABC would rather see me dead than allow us to do our job.