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He's Out, But Some Still Want Rumsfeld to Face War Crimes Charges
November 09, 2006 9:24 AM
Though he has resigned as Secretary of Defense, Donald Rumsfeld is expected to be accused of war crimes in a lawsuit to be filed next week in Germany.
The Center for Constitutional Rights will file the suit on behalf of a group of Iraqi detainees as well as the so-called 20th hijacker, who is currently being held at Guantanamo Bay.
"The former secretary actually authorized a series of interrogation techniques," said Michael Ratner, President of CCR. "They included the use of dogs, stripping, hooding, stressed positions, chaining to the floor, sexual humiliation and those types of activities."
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Those techniques, he says, amount to torture and violate the Geneva Conventions. Ratner will be traveling to Berlin next week and plans to file the suit on Tuesday.
The suit is being brought in Germany because a "universal jurisdiction" law there allows German courts to claim jurisdiction over war crimes even if they were committed outside that country's borders.
CCR filed a similar lawsuit in Germany two years ago. That suit charged that Rumsfeld, former CIA Director George Tenet and other senior officials were responsible for the torturing of Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison. The suit was dismissed, however, because German prosecutors said the case had no connection to German citizens nor to events that took place in Germany.
Department of Defense officials at the time refused to comment on the allegations in the suit, and Rumsfeld himself has called such universal jurisdiction lawsuits "absurd" and "politicized."
Despite the previous dismissals and Rumsfeld's resignation, Ratner says he still thinks the former secretary needs to be held accountable for what Ratner calls "war crimes," and he also wants to put the U.S. interrogation policy on trial.
"I think it's important not just for the personal accountability of Rumsfeld but really to put the United States back into what I consider the letter of law," he said.
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I completely agree with the CCR.
Posted by: John | Nov 9, 2006 9:37:34 AM
I think Donald Rumsfeld will be remembered as the best Defense Secretary since Robert McNamara.
Posted by: Jon Swift | Nov 9, 2006 12:04:15 PM
Yes, Rumsfeld as well as the United States should be held accountable for the war crimes commited under their so-call "save lives" I am a U.S. citizen but no one country should be above the law. Harsh interrogation techniques should be abolish. If we have to stoop to the terrorist level and torture detainees then we have become what we hate and have lost our humanity as well as our freedom.
Posted by: Ben | Nov 9, 2006 12:10:13 PM
Puhleeaze!
I am no fan of the war. But,where were these guys when Saddam was doing worse - a lot worse?
Seems like selective memory to me!
Posted by: Rich Halecki | Nov 9, 2006 12:52:56 PM
Your right Rich, Saddam committed a lot worse crimes than Rumsfeld. He is going to be hanged by the neck till he be dead! Being Rumsfeld committed lesser crimes, he should get a lesser sentence. Just because one criminal is worse dosen't mean the lesser criminal should not be punished!
Posted by: David | Nov 9, 2006 1:11:34 PM
The left won't rest until they draw blood on someone in the current Adminisration. If they choose to go down that road,they might as well kiss "08 elections goodbye, people want to see what "great plan" they are going to implement now,not how may people they will waste time amd money taking down.
Posted by: Cindy | Nov 9, 2006 1:15:24 PM
I keep hearing how the US is as bad as the terrorists......well, I don't know where any American has chopped the head off some prisoner. It's war and $hit happens.
Posted by: David | Nov 9, 2006 1:20:09 PM
The big secret is out the Dems don't have a plan for the war, for the economy, for healthcare. All they are going to do is get revenge for poor old Billy Bob Clinton.
This is for Ben.
If a terrorist was holding you captive and you only had hours to live I'd torture the heck out of him to save your life. And I'd be glad when you were found alive and complaining. Because we torture does not put us on the level of the terrorists. Now if we were sending our women into the Mall of America to set off suicide belts, or saw through the necks of innocent people then yes we would be on their level. Why can't any one see the difference between the evil that are the terrorists, and us trying to stop the spread of that evil.
Posted by: SPO | Nov 9, 2006 1:26:31 PM
I cannot believe how many people actually defend the terroist now. It seems as if we can no longer tell the difference betwween right and wrong. The man has served his country in possibly one of the hardest times.
Posted by: Ruben | Nov 9, 2006 1:38:18 PM
I don't think this guy Michael Ratner, President of CCR knows what he's talking about.
Posted by: Dzung Nguyen | Nov 9, 2006 1:55:14 PM
Even if Rumsfield is charged with war crimes under international law, he won't be arrested unless he leaves the US. Before Rumsfield the US military had a strong tradition of upholding the Geneva Conventions. However it was shocking how easily Rumsfield and Republicans in Congress were willing to abandon that tradition. After all organized terrorism has been with us since around 1800.
Under international law, to which the US has long been a signatory, a person cannot be charged with war crimes until they leave office. There is talk that Bush will be charged when he leaves office.
Posted by: Chris Baker | Nov 9, 2006 3:01:17 PM
Rummy will just hide in Florida like Jeb did to avoid Texas law.
That's correct, fellow Americans!
Seems IL ol' junior Bush committed fraud in the Lone Star state, then escaped to Florida and then ran for governor.
Bush senior gave him Florida.
Posted by: WildBill | Nov 9, 2006 3:13:31 PM
If I were held captive, honestly I would rather die then know that someone else is to be torture and kill just to save my own hide.
Posted by: Ben | Nov 9, 2006 3:14:02 PM
I would be more than happy to hand him over to them for trial.
Posted by: Mike | Nov 9, 2006 3:14:39 PM
Accountability should be the hallmark of a nation that heralds its own democracy. I don't know if Ratner and CCR has a case, as I can't see what is different now from the case that was dismissed. But it astounds me to see so many here appear to endorse and promote the use of torture. In the name of what? What has our nation become?
p.s. I'm no democrat.
Posted by: Nan | Nov 9, 2006 3:15:30 PM
WAY TO GO SPO!!! I couldn't have said it better myself. Just wanted you to know you weren't the only one who thinks that way!
Posted by: Dianne | Nov 9, 2006 3:17:04 PM
Impeach both those two Texas road-kill then charge both for Treason.
Posted by: WildBill | Nov 9, 2006 3:17:42 PM
Ha looks like politics as usual. rather than get going on fixing the problems we're just going to spend time and money getting an eye for an eye. we changed the diaper before the baby was done and it still stinks.
Posted by: Tim | Nov 9, 2006 3:18:28 PM
I concur with a charge for warcrimes. The only question should be how can we get Rumsfeld, Bush and "Shotgun" Cheney to trial and make sure it is as fair as the one Presdent Saddam Hussein has been given.
Posted by: Charles | Nov 9, 2006 3:18:32 PM
If you think you can do a better job - submit your resume - it is always easier to critize than it is to come up with a solution of your own isn't it? What about the civil rights of all the victims of 9/11 or those of Sadam's victims? The fact they are filing in Germany says a lot - they don't want to face the citizens of this country with these outrageous claims.
Posted by: Paula | Nov 9, 2006 3:18:49 PM
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