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Outcry Over Congressional Pensions for Convicted Members

November 30, 2006 3:23 PM

Pension_foley_cunn_ney3_nr The new Democratic leadership faces pressure to end taxpayer-funded pensions to misbehaving members of Congress.

But even a new law will be too late for former Congressmen Duke "Randall" Cunningham, Bob Ney and Mark Foley, who all left Congress in disgrace this year. They will still get their generous Congressional pensions no matter what. 

Over 20 civic organizations claiming to have millions of members sent a letter to the new Democratic leadership demanding that they immediately pass a law taking away pensions from members of Congress who've been convicted of a felony.

"The typical American is already angry that members of Congress get such generous pensions, two to three times more generous than what a similarly paid executive would get in the private sector," says Pete Sepp, Vice President of the Taxpayer's Union and one of the letter's authors. "Then they hear that lawmakers that have been convicted of serious crimes keep collecting the payments, well, they just blow through the roof."

A bill passed by the House in May took pensions away from members convicted of bribery or corruption.  But it remains stalled in "conference negotiations" and appears unlikely to pass before the end of the session.

Regardless, the current bill is not retroactive so Ney and Cunningham are guaranteed their pensions. Ney will get $29,000 a year after age 60, and Cunningham is already collecting $64,000 a year while in prison. According to Sepp, the amount grows with the cost of living each year.

Even if former Congressman Foley ends up being charged and convicted in connection with his lewd Internet exchanges with minors, he will still get his $32,000-a-year pension, according to Sepp. 

The current proposed law is not retroactive and also stipulates that members be convicted of corruption or bribery, with which Foley is unlikely to be charged.

Sepp is appalled the proposed law is so narrow. "There are a whole horde of crimes that lawmakers commit in office from embezzlement to capital crimes that are very serious and deserve the same kind of treatment," he says.

Some 15 other disgraced former members of Congress are also collecting their pensions. Convicted Illinois Rep. Dan Rotstenkowski still draws over $100,000 a year.

Sepp and others say if the new Democratic leadership is serious about cleaning up congressional corruption, passing legislation halting taxpayer-funded pensions to convicted felons is an easy way to do it. 

"If Nancy Pelosi really wants to clean up the swamp in Washington, if they can't agree on this one point that people who commit crimes shouldn't profit from it at the expense of taxpayers...there will be no ethics reform in Congress," Sepp says.  "Fiscally, it's nothing but chump change, but ethically it means a whole lot to the American people."

A spokesperson for Nancy Pelosi told ABC News that ethics reform in Congress is a top priority for the speaker-elect, but that it wouldn't be part of her first 100 hours agenda because she wants there to be congressional committee hearings on the issue.

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Politicians are crimminals in suits

We the shareholders need a wholesale change in the governmental system that is broken

FIRE the politicians, start over

Posted by: troy V | Dec 2, 2006 12:20:59 PM

I don't believe any political job should pay any retirement. We should not have professional politicians they are the biggest problem that this country has. No one should be allowed to hold a national political office unless they are at least 60 years old and have earned a living in the private sector for at least 30 years. Then the political offices could pay a very livable wage but no benefits and no retirement service should be a service and not a career.

Posted by: Tom webster | Dec 7, 2006 9:00:42 AM

those pigs are already fat from eating at the public trough. even the honest ones are overpaid. they have huge expense/office accounts. familys get lobbyist jobs keep a portion of campain expenses,in addition to never paying for meals travel ent etc. these guys should have to live like everday working stiffs. they cater to rich who contribute to their partys, and the poor who exchange votes for wellfare. the working class pays carrys the load for all these freeloaders.

Posted by: carlos | Dec 7, 2006 4:03:51 PM

agree with tom webster.also with the guy who said press not doing their job. times are right for a 3rd party to represent middle class. they are being screwed by the politicians. if pols are underpaid,why do you see guys spending $2,ooo,ooo to land a job that pays $200,000?

Posted by: carlos | Dec 7, 2006 4:26:18 PM

I bet the politicians are all looking at each other, and hoping this goes away...What about all their speeches to get into office; "I am going to clean up Wahsington!" How the heck does a guy, in prison draw a 64K pension and no one raises the red flag??? A guy fights for his country, medically retired. Ex..vietnam vet...lives out of his car...gets 256 a month...never stole a thing in his life...still loyal to his country and people...maybe we should divert these "thiefs" pensions to the ones who deserve it.

Posted by: paul | Dec 8, 2006 9:36:29 AM

If it's the Law, I see nothing wrong with them collecting their pension. Congress needs to look a the system and chenge it if needed.

Posted by: Larry | Dec 8, 2006 11:51:03 AM

I hope the Democrat lead house and senate also reviews the scores of convicted democrat members receiving bloated pensions too. I think there should term limits of 3 terms so not representative of the people becomes a career politician and has to work pay taxes and wait for that pension.

Posted by: Dan | Dec 8, 2006 2:30:24 PM

A rule of thumb is:
The only difference between Jesse (James) and your average politician is-----Jesse carried a gun!

Posted by: Bill | Dec 8, 2006 4:31:01 PM

What? Support Congressional crooks who get caught and convicted with American taxpayers' money? What an absolute absurdity. Yep, crime does pay when the "government" runs the show.

Not only are we providing their housing, clothing and food while they are in the pen, but pay them rather handsome "pen"shuns to boot!

I would urge those still in Congress to: (1) pass legislation not only scrapping Federal pension benefits to those vultures that betray public trust RETROACTIVELY (back to 1900 or so,} and;(2) I also would put into that law that they would be liable for REPAYMENT of every cent that they were paid while stealing us blind.


Madam Speaker Elect Pelosi we are counting on you. Please do not fail the American people.

Posted by: Alan Langford | Dec 8, 2006 6:00:43 PM

wow, this is enough to make a lawyer jealous.

Posted by: mike | Dec 8, 2006 6:53:39 PM

Why not make the law taking the pensions away from those convicted of crimes? Our Congress always acts like it is a big brotherhood that has vowed to take care of each other financially, no matter what. Only problem, it isn't Congress's money, it is OUR money, and, most of us don't want these criminals rewarded for bad behavior that way. If they break the law, fire them and NO pay like any other job. Washington is beginning to seem like the Mafia machine. Cross THEM and you get the boot, but, cross the people and you get a pat on the back and a fistful of our money every month
of the rest of their lives.

Posted by: Bess Cannon | Dec 9, 2006 11:21:32 AM

It is a shame that in this day and time, in this country unlike any other that we the people are still getting screwed! We do not reward criminals in this country, they are no different!!!!!!!!!!!!

Posted by: MTB | Dec 12, 2006 10:23:30 AM

This situation is a crying shame to all americans. These people in congress should not get a pension if they serve one term or 100 terms. Taxpayers money should be spent elsewhere. Congress payraises should be voted on by the people, if they do a good job then maybe they get a raise. IF they perform poorly then no raise.

Posted by: Jim | Jan 4, 2007 8:54:17 AM

WHAT CAN I DO TO STOP THIS, I AM RETIRED USN AND IF I MESSED UP WHILE IN THE NAVY I COULD HAVE LOST IT ALL. THIS IS NOT RIGHT, WE NEED TO STOP THIS. AGAIN WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE IT HAPPEN

Posted by: Jay | Jan 10, 2007 10:28:57 AM

I still would like to know how rich people can make decisions for non-rich people? Also has anyone figured out what a politician gets for health care and what they pay from their pockets? They have the best our taxes can buy which is why they can't fix the problems most Americans face everyday. If they don't feel it they won't react to it. Thats why they have everything so good. They have taken care of themselves and not the people who elected them. It amazes me how we can waste so much money on war's for nothing and the families and retiries of our nation can't get the assistance they need. But the politicans get what they need and want. We pay the taxes. We obey the laws. Politicians are taken care of. We get screwed. Doesn't sound so great does it.

Posted by: art | Jan 17, 2007 3:11:08 PM

The bible speaks about wickedness in high places, and the positions of congressmen and senators are the highest in the land! It is really a shame the american people allow this to continue!

Posted by: dan | May 18, 2007 9:42:29 AM

I guess crime really does pay. How do I send this to evefybody I know?

Posted by: Bev Green | Aug 5, 2007 2:37:34 PM

The Congressional Record is the official journal of Congress's daily proceedings. Though often a transcript of the debates on the House and Senate floors, like C-SPAN transcripts, the Congressional Record can be significantly modified by Members of Congress after the fact. Entries in the Congressional Record can reflect the edited, prepared versions of statements actually made on the floor, and on very rare occasions can contain seeming entire debates between Members of Congress that never took place.
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Martina

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