Surely the liberals understand the "good" people of the world must prevail. Negotiations with these brainwashed thugs is not the answer. Kill them!!!!!!!!

Maybe its time we drop the bomb and show them that we mean business when it comes to terrorism. It ended WW2 and it would either end terrorism or at least make them think of the consequences before they take action. Look at it this way; we should strike first before they use a dirt bomb on us. All the intelligence available will not work and one day we will be hit again. As the 9/11 indicated, it’s inevitable.

Good plan, Joe. It's precisely that type of rational thought that the terrists lack.

Take note that the "The officials say the plots are all connected and track back to al Qaeda commanders in Pakistan who have been recruiting and training British citizens of Pakistan descent." This is the same country that is supposedly a partner in the fight against terrorism. Not only is Pakistan the home base for Terrorism, it is also a country with nukes and a demonstrated willingness to export the technology. Just not enough oil there for it be a concern to the US in the war on terror. Hmmmm.

I live in NYC, breathed the smoke of 9/11, and I'm a lot more afraid of the commenters to this story than I am of any terrorists.

Ok, but here's the rub ... "who" do you propose killing, and "where" do you suggest dropping your bomb? I guess we could invade another random country to "send a message." I think that message is already getting through.

Richard and Joe,
Kill who?
Drop a bomb where?

Ummm...where exactly do you propose to "drop the big one"? Unlike WW2, we are not fighting a nation. We are tilting at terrorist windmills. It's not like you are suggesting that we bomb London to get these guys. Are you?

Ummm, and I suppose England should have nuked Northern Ireland back in the day to prevent more attacks from the IRA?!?! Exactly where would you "drop the bomb", Joe? And a "dirt bomb"? Sounds messy, but I'm sure Tide and All-Temperature Cheer would sell like hotcakes...

Man, with all this craziness happening in Pakistan and Afghanistan, all I can say is thank god we've got 140,000 troops in, um, Iraq.

Why is that again?

Maybe we should wise up one day and realize we are being wickedly manipulated by our own governments. Drop the bomb where exactly?
What would happen to oil transport then? And how would we ever rationalize non-proliferation fter that?
Use your brain for something like rational thinking!

The enemy is within our own gates, and it is our own fault for blindly letting them in, all in the name of the almighty dollar. The Democrats have let us down with their liberal social policies, and the Republicans have let us down with their liberal economic policies. The result of each is the United States has been flooded with millions of people.

Oh yeah... drop the bomb. That'll solve everything. And they'll LOVE us after that.

Where do you plan on dropping the bomb? They live amongst us, worldwide. They live in London and New York and Paris and everywhere else. To bomb them you may find that you are, in fact, bombing yourself or someone you love. Good luck.

Yes, but who do we drop the bomb on?

OK, where would you like to drop this bomb?

Drop it where, Joe? Pakistan, Afghanistan, Iraq, England all have terrorist activity. Even the United States. So where would you like to start with the brutal killing of thousands of innocent people in order to kill a few dozen terrorists?

Christmas cheer.

I am sick to death of the "political correctness" that's putting so many people in danger. So what if it's not "politically correct" to profile? It's one of the most practical ways to begin to get this horrific situation under control. I never thought that I would actively advocate the singling out of religious group for closer scrutiny, but radical Islamics have made it abundantly clear that are absolutely unwilling to give everyone else the religious and secular freedom they want for themselves--and that they will do anything they deem necessary to crush those who oppose them. Enough already...If violent Islamic fundamentalists cannot play well with others, it is time to remove them from the playground altogether.

Re: Drop the bomb.

Where do we drop it? al-Quedastan?

drop it where? London or New York? That's where the terrorists were last time, and most likely to strike again

Dropping the bomb would be a good idea, we have to nip this problem once and for all and I think that should do it.

"Drop the bomb"? Where? The terrorists are not in Iraq, Iran, Pakistan, Afghanistan, etc. They are throughout Europe and the U.S. Waging war in the Middle East is for private, corporate gain and not in the interest of saving the world from terrorism- an effective excuse nontheless, which is apparent from the preceding comments. Resources would be better spent domestically, as our future is being squandered to the benefit of a few.

It's all the work of british intelligence, just like 7/7 in London. Intelligence always conducts "training" exercises for the events they are going to stage the same day. 7/7 there was a training exercise to stop bombs on busses and trains. On 9/11 in the USA there was a training exercise that morning for hijacked planes slamming into buildings. This is how they operate. So if you hear about "terror training drills"...get out of dodge.

We cannot use the bomb against them - it will turn the rest of the world against us, further than they already are.

"Can't we all just get along?"

Rodney King

despite the tough talk of the previoius two comments, there is in fact no "they" to kill or nuke, were you of a mind to do so. the West has very cleverly implemented a policy of embedding all manner of "they" within Western society, without thought as to cultural or political allegience. the threat is all around you, and at least in Britain, likely born there. tis now done, and there is no reversing it. the only effective policies now are either stop meddling in the Middle East, or turn the West into an unbearable police state. obviously that latter is the course which seems to be prevailing. good luck; we will all need it.

What's also sad it that for liberals, everything is political. The only reason they fear an attack is that their insane, high and mighty social-program aspirations will suffer. Now, do you think the liberals care if citizens are killed - as long as we're nice to the detainees at Gitmo ??

Dear Leanne, this really scares me. Jim

Liberals understand a lot, including the fact that the war on terror, like the war on drugs, will never be won by a central administration using force. As long as there is a supply and a demand, market conditions will operate. Bush and the conservatives have much done more to lose a war on terror than a liberal president would have done. In fact, a geranium would have made a better president in the war on terror than Bush. Time to wake up face the facts of world conditions instead of wishing for the laziest, intellectually easiest solution such as a bomb.

Peaceful religion of islam? My a**! We're all fools for thinking dialogue and negotiation will deter anyone set on killing themselves anyway. So, mohammed now is the #1 name ahead of George in England? They'll wish they were fighting Sean again instead of mohammed.

The root of the word terrorism is "terror". If you are afraid, if you desire retribution, if your life is disrupted, the terrorists win. If you start or perpetuate a conflict with the Muslim culture, the terrorists win. The overwhelming majority of Muslims want what you and I want: Happiness, Safety, Home, Family, Peace. They are our best insurance against being attacked; we must treat them with respect if we expect them to assist us with this mutual problem.
"But I tell you not to resist an evil person. But whoever slaps you on your right cheek, turn the other to him also." Matt 5:39

que sera sera

Perhaps it is just a ploy by the governments of the world to keep the "endless war" going. Lets scare the people of the world right when they are celebrating holidays so we can keep this manifested war fresh in the minds of all. Maybe, if the west would stop forcing our way of thinking down everyone's throats then perhaps we may all live in peace. Violence breeds violence and we have increasingly been causing or adding to the violence in the world.

I'd certainly like to see the war on terror succeed or at least move to the next level. But the vexing question is who do we drop the bomb on, Joe? It's not like Al Qaeda has a capital city. Times have changed and this enemy is nearly impossible to fight in a conventional sense.

Trouble with dropping the bomb is, they welcome martyrdom, even on a mass scale. For instance, Iran’s former president Rafsanjani admits Iran could suffer 15 million dead in a nuclear war with Israel ... and says that would be a small price to pay for the destruction of Israel. And Ahmadinejad is advertising in Iranian newspapers for persons to join "a martyrdomseeking
division" for each province in Iran in case of invasion.

Ok, who do we drop the bomb on? The terrorists do not come from one country they are everywhere and embedded in many countries the world over?

And please don't say Iraq...anyone with a brain knows that the War on Terror and the self-imposed War in Iraq are two totally different things.

We could start by taking out the nuclear facilities of Iran. Tactical nucs from a couple subs in the Persian Gulf would put them out of the business for the next century. But the more serious problem are the enemy in our midst, including European and American converts to Islamofascism. For that we need to start shutting down mosques and madrasas.

The problem with the bomb is where would you bomb? They have sleeper cells and active cells all over the world, and if you were to bomb one, or two of the more concentrated places, you would just infuriate the other cells even more and cause more to convert to extremism out of anger. We need to figure out a way to fight a cause that has been veiled as a religious belief.

"Maybe its time we drop the bomb"

And where would you drop "the bomb" genius? Also - please enlighten me as to how that would help?

They're coming. They're coming. Make no mistake.

And the liberal, appeasing, "can't we all get along" approach has done nothing but made them bolder and more determined.

Joe, I concur completely.

There is no hope in Islam. And for most trapped in that religion, no choice from a cultural perspective. It was started by a man who declared war, and will forever be trapped inside its own narrowsightedness, where elders in the community send their children to blow themselves up...for what? For nothing! For fear!

Jesus Christ came into the world to bring life and light and hope to all. He encourages us when He said, "I have come that you might have abundant life." and "I have come to seek and save that which was lost."

Have a Merry Christmas celebrating His journey to this place in which we cause and endure so much trouble apart from Him.

Muslims planning terrorist attacks - imagine that.

Funny how every single armed conflict currently going on in the world involves Muslims - you know, the great religion of "Peace".

I hope the above posts are being sarcastic. In this day and age, when reading just a little bit of history shows us just how useless war is, people cannot seriously point to using more guns and bombs to fix anything.

Read a book... preferably a history book... one not written by a warmonger.

Smartest move for the US: spend one years worth of your military budget on renewable energy.

"Kill them", "Drop the bomb" Do we honestly think threats of death and nuclear destruction matter to a group of people who believe that dying for their religion is an honor? If anything that's doing them a favor. The only way to eventually solve this problem is years,decades, generations of outreach to muslim youths BEFORE they become brainwashed by their religious zealots.

Odd that BA and London cancelled all outgoing flights for 48 hours. You would almost think they've never experienced fog before.

According to a British newspaper published yesterday, autopsy results on Alexander Litvinenko established that he was poisoned with more than ten times the lethal dose of polonium-210 – a murder that would have cost in excess of $10 million.

I fear Litvinenko was dealing with a dirty bomb.

I'm sorry, but I seem to be missing your point Joe... How exactly will killing people already contemplating suicide (ie- suicide bombers)change anything?

Expect to maybe turn people that may have not been contemplating becoming suicide bombers, into suicide bombers? If those people that were not previously considering becoming suicide bombers, felt that it made no difference what they did or didn't do... They're going to be killed anyway, no matter what they do?

I know that if I felt that no matter what I did or did not do... I was going to be killed... It's possible that I might want to take as many people out with me as a I could. A situation such as the one you're advocating could very easily create terrorists out of people that might have otherwise never considered such actions. If they're going to die senseless deaths for things that have absolutely nothing to do with them... Is it not possible those people might not think, "Hey, if I'm going to die for no reason, I'm taking a hell of a lot of other innocent people with me?"

When will "men" learn Killing only bring on more killing, it would be nice at some point in time for us to us understanding, instead of "Kill Them!"

Apparently, the secret meetings that John Kerry and other Democrats have been having with terrorist leaders around the middle east haven't been working. Perhaps they should say, "We surrender!" a little louder so they understand. Or maybe they already do understand, and this is their response.

As none of the high profile "terrorists" that regularly are arrested in the UK ever have EVER done porridge for being terroistists i think we can assume that this is more hype and properganda - all this sort of thing brings promotions, good tv coverage,bigger police and miltary budgets... all good for Blair' Big Brother Adgenda

No they dont, They don't have a clue. Once they finally realize the gravity of the situation they will screame for the military to do something then blame us for not being prepared.

At this time it appears apprpriate to review the waterboarding issue. Regardless of what some of the squeamish say, it works. What good is it to save one's sensibilites only to loose several hundred lives?

Joe, there is no COUNTRY of terrorism. Terrorism is started by ONE person and spread to others through word of mouth and beliefs. You cannot simply destroy any specific place... that's what makes fighting terrorism so difficult. The only way to cure this problem is to get these people to understand that our way of life is not evil and that we're not evil people. Once they understand the beauty of life and that there are bad people everywhere, they can begin to stop killing us. However, you cannot just blindly bomb any specific country or set of people.

Terrorism is inevitable, for there will always be Timothy McVeighs in the world. Better education and understanding will prevent it on a larger scale.

Surely Richard in the above posted comment will acknowledge that if we had gone after Osama Bin Laden like we meant it instead of Dubya indulging his little whim of getting back at Iraq, maybe we would all be having a more secure Xmas and fewer worries about terrorists

Time for Britain to stop letting these people in as immigrants in the first place.

What would "dropping a bomb" do to people brainwashed into thinking that suicide is honorable? It will only enrage them more. We don't need need more martyrs, but we do need some proper diplomacy, and we need people better suited for such discussions.
If the whole world thinks one thing, and a few pig-headed people (ie: Republicans,) with their hands in each other's pockets desperately try to convince us that they are right through slogans that ruin perfectly good phrases (I shall never use the term "the way foward" again without an acrid taste forming in my mouth,) the rest of the world should create a STRONGER United Nations, or even a new world government and put an end to this squabbling over land that won't be worth anything once we use up the resources that we are supposedly not after.
Ride a bicycle, people. You'll save on the gym fees, too.

We who support the War on Terror are now called fear mongers by liberal members of the media and congress. Alan Colmes, Harry Reid, even Bill Clinton are three such types I can name from memory.

Do these Americans really think that the Bush Administration was complicit in the 9/11 attacks? What about the Subway bombing in London or the commuter train carnage in Madrid? Folks, you are suicidally insane if you think sponsors of terrorism like Iran can be reasoned with in dialog. The moment the good, civilized world begins negotiations with evil, barbaric regimes is when Evil has won and Good has been diminished - forever! The Iraq Study Group report is thankfully DOA.

Joe:

I'm all for the fight on terrorism but what would committing genocide by dropping a nuke accomplish except making us look like ruthless killers? There are good people in these countries that want to feed their families. We are going to be hit again... and again.... and again. We just need to continue to be vigilant and not let the actions of a few outweigh the many good.

Perhaps it is time that the British rethink their open borders/multiculturism regarding Islam. This is going to get much worse before it gets better.

I think this calls for another study group...after all, Pakistan was not included as one of the countries to try to talk to. Maybe they are feeling left out and not as important as Syria and Iran. I'm with Joe and Richard-QUIT FOOLING AROUND BEFORE IT'S TOO LATE!!!

I agree. Where should we bomb first?

God forbid an attack actually occurs, I predict a nanosecond of delay in the world press before American foreign policy and Israel are trumpeted as its cause.

Surely if we took the time to ubderstand their feelings....

That's the spirit! Kill 'em all, right? Nothing says "We're bringing you democracy" like bombing the hell out of the afflicted country.

"As the 9-11 indicated..."

Is this president Bush secretly posting as Joe?

Will the USA have to save Europe AGAIN??? Didn't anyone learn ANYTHING from WW1 and WW2?

To Joe:

So where do we drop this bomb to cure everything?

By now it should be clear to everyone that the west is at war with radical Islam, a war that we did not start. They simply despise us because of our beliefs and are hell bent on converting or killing us all. There will be many innocent deaths on both sides of this war and it will last many years. It will only stop when "good Muslims" rout out the evil ones and demand that they stop! Unfortunately the end is not in sight. Happy Hana-rama-kwans-mass.

We will, soon, awaken. When we do, Allah will sit with many martyrs.

Well, "Joe", where do you suggest we drop the Bomb? Is there any place in particular that dropping a nuke on would make the terrorists stop what they're doing? Maybe Mecca? Yeah, that's it! We'll destroy Mecca, and then the terrorists will stop, because they'll worry that we'll... uhm... bomb Mecca again.

I think there will be an attack, but not by Jan. 1. It will be when we least expect it. In any case, you should stock up on the following items: Food, Water, Slim Jims (AKA Slim Lamonts), Beer (for Steve), and Bottle Rockets. If anyone comes into my yard, you'll get hit with a bottle rocket. Peace Out Yo.

the liberals are attacking the christians,,, just wait till the moslems attack the liberals.. its just a matter of time...
wakeup liberals.. you should be helping the christians.

Drop the bomb where, Joe? On London? I think folks would take that kind of actoin if all the bad guys were in one place and we knew where that was.

These are small battles won in the course of a lost war. American and Brittish moral decay are bringing on God's judgement. If you read the most accurate history book in the world, aka The Holy Bible, you will find story after story of the Israelites declining faithfulness to God's commands, and God consequently raising up a foe to bring judgement on his unfaithful people. If we do not know history we are doomed to repeat it.

I agree with Joe.

In WW2 we fought fanatics that were not afraid of death (Japan). Only when the cause they were fighting for (country and emperor) faced imminent destruction did they surrender.

This is no different, but the cause is Islam, and an Islamic super-state. The only solution I can see is a nuclear weapon on one of Islam’s holiest sites, and a promise to finish the job including Mecca and Medina.

Are you guys out of your mind?

A nuclear attack? On what? Who?

We'd love to kill the terrorists if we knew who they were.

These are small battles won in the course of a lost war. American and Brittish moral decay are bringing on God's judgement. If you read the most accurate history book in the world, aka The Holy Bible, you will find story after story of the Israelites declining faithfulness to God's commands, and God consequently raising up a foe to bring judgement on his unfaithful people. If we do not know history we are doomed to repeat it.

With a bag over our heads, we march happily into the future unable to see further than our noses.

Until the press/mass media wakes up and sees the common threat we all face as being very real and imminent, we shall continue to be essnetially defenseless against an implacable, vicous enemy driven by a hateful ideology ... and we shall accordingly remain in grave peril.

One must ask why there is no clarion-call to the agressive, unified self-defense our innocent and blameless citizenry.

Our internal politcal differences and a perverse self-hatred have renedered us mostly helplessly ineffective in our own defense.

Our enemies see this a religious war and they will give no-quarter; while we ignore that reality and blame ourselves for their hatred. It's PREPOSTEROUS!!!

Or, we could get ourselves off of mideast oil and get our troops out of there. Oh wait, that would require responsibility on our part. We're mad consumers, so there's no way that's going to happen, or is there?

And ANWR provides a maximum of 18 months of oil, according to the Alaska oil lobby. So we can't drill our way out of this mess.

Alternative energy, anyone? Impeachment, anyone?

You can not "fight" terror with rule of law. You cannot fear killing "innocents" when in fact there are none. You must simply defeat them completely and entirely by eliminating the threat altogether. And all the better if in scale and terms that will dissuade any survivors. Do you think if they had the bomb on 9-11 they would not have used it? They demonstrated that they will use any means possible to achieve as much damage as possible. When (not if, we are past that)they have atomic means, they will most assuredly use it.

Maybe its time we drop the bomb and show them that we mean business when it comes to terrorism.

There's nothing like dropping to the level of terrorists by nuking their civilian populations. That will make all the remaining Middle Eastern populations love us all the more.

A rational change in policies in the world in general and the Mid-East in particular, combined with multilateral intelligence sharing and law enforcement operations would do more to keep us all safe than any 10 nuclear weapons. And with recent scientific studies showing that even a "small" nuclear exchange would precipitate significant, world-wide climate change, it would be much better for the whole world.

Joe, the problem is that this is a very different war... first off, using nuclear weapons would not end the terrorist threat. Terrorists have a low density in any population... even in a known stronghold, killing a few terrorists with WMD would kill hundreds of thousands of neutrals or even friendlies. The brutality of such an act would prove what terrorists say about us, and many more would join ranks with them. From that stand-point only, I'm astonished you seriously consider that.
Not to mention the moral and ethical questions of using nuclear weapons, which you seem to be just fine breaking.

Ok, have to ask, WHERE do you drop the bomb? On london? Me thinks that might be a bit stupid. How about on Iraq. Um, no.... a nuke would only hurt our forces and ci vilians more then anyone else. So maybe afghanistan. Nope, again our forces and civilians. Bombs are not the answer for terrorism. Did England bomb Ireland? (well, ok, england did do a lot of very bad things to Ireland, but they never droped a nuke...)

sadly there's no easy solution. Which means americans will be forced to think up new responses then just, KILL them.

Course if we americans had stayed in afghanistan instead of diverting our troops to iraq this would not be such a big problem. But hey, we're cowboys, we don't like to stay and clean up, get in get out, mission acomplished and all that.

*sigh*

I like the drop the bomb idea. Just to be fair though, I would give people 72 hours to clear out of Western Pakistan and Ea