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Dead U.S. Soldier in Anti-War Video 'Alive and Well'
January 08, 2007 8:00 AM
An Iraqi insurgent propaganda video, containing what is described as a Christmas message from a U.S. soldier taped just before he was killed, appeared on dozens of Web sites and on the al Jazeera network.
But a lot about the video does not add up, including the fact that ABC News found the supposedly dead soldier is "alive and well" and present for duty, according to a U.S. Army spokesman at Fort Campbell, Ky.
"There are a whole bunch of lies on that tape," said Lt. Col. Ed Loomis at Fort Campbell. "It is nothing but a total fabrication."
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A producer at al Jazeera said it would change its description of the video after learning from ABC News that the soldier was not dead.
The tape begins in dramatic form with the title "Lee's Life for Lies."
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It is supposedly a Christmas greeting from a U.S. soldier, Specialist Lee Kimball Tucker, sent to his family in Florida before he was killed.
First there are scenes of Tucker celebrating his birthday with his buddies.
Then a cut to an attack on a U.S. Army humvee and its aftermath.
An insurgent narrator says the insurgents found a computer flash drive in the wreckage that belonged to Tucker and purports to play it.
A voice says, "Dear Mom and Dad, I'm so glad I could send you my third Christmas greetings letter."
Watch the beginning of the Iraqi Insurgent Video.
Lt. Col. Loomis told ABC News that while the pictures appear to be authentic, it was a case of Tucker's identity being stolen in Iraq.
The voice identified as Tucker says he and his fellow soldiers became violent and reckless searching for insurgents.
"The crimes by our soldiers during break-ins started to merge, such as burglary, harassment, raping and random manslaughter," says the voice. "Why are we even here? The people hate us."
Laura Mansfield, an Arabic language analyst and publisher of a newsletter "Strategic Translations" that tracks jihadi websites, said this is a new trick in the jihadists' propaganda campaign.
"This is part of a very shrewd campaign to reach a U.S. audience, soldiers and voters," she said. "It is in English and forgives most soldiers and Americans, calling on them to help end the war."
Also on the tape is a description, supposedly from Tucker, of how soldiers buy their way out of dangerous night patrols and gun turret duty with cash and drugs.
"The marijuana-rolled cigarettes are the rare currency capable of buying or changing anything. The drugs goes all around here," says the voice.
And it ends with a final denunciation of U.S. leaders and policy.
"What we are doing here is so disgraceful; our acts are shameful," says the voice. He then signs off, "Specialist Lee Kimball Tucker."
Watch the video where the voice professes his anti-war sentiments.
All very powerful from a dead soldier, except for the fact that Lee Kimball Tucker is not dead.
His family says he returned from Iraq in May and was with them over the holidays so he would not have been sending any messages home.
There will be an internal investigation at Fort Campbell to determine how the insurgents got a hold of the home video of the soldiers, and Fort Campbell officials are urging all soldiers to take further precautions against identity theft.
Tucker's mother Pam of Fort Worth, Texas, told ABC News that Tucker is not anti-war and that he could be returning to Iraq later this year.
January 8, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (158)
Nothing that Michael Moore hasn't already done.
Posted by: Charlie | Jan 8, 2007 11:11:40 AM
Are you sure that video wasn't posted by Cindy Sheehan and some of the Democrats?
Posted by: Chris | Jan 8, 2007 11:14:56 AM
Everything on the terrorist network al Jazeera is propaganda! Must Arabs that watch it and read it believe it to be true!!!
Posted by: Tom | Jan 8, 2007 11:19:57 AM
and to think that a liberal minded person would take al-jazeera's word for it before our own military. our enemy knows how to use the liberal mind for their benefit by fabricating things like this but some will still live in denial as to who the enemy really is and how dangerous and desperate they are.
Posted by: keith | Jan 8, 2007 11:19:59 AM
Has anyone noticed that the terrorists and the loony left are saying the same things? I'm not saying they're in cahoots, but honestly, this is ridiculous.
Posted by: Senor Bueno | Jan 8, 2007 11:23:15 AM
I bet the anti-war people are upset, nothing will brighten their day up as a dead soldier; something they can claim as their call, but the reality is they hate the troops as much as they hate the country.
Posted by: Tom | Jan 8, 2007 11:31:22 AM
Now is the time to finesh the job , this is some desperate stuff we must be getting close. They can't beat us unless we quit.
Pressure on Iran dry up the weapons and money aid to the bad guys in Bagdad.
Cut the supply line into Iraq. Hammer Iran, Syria etc .....
Posted by: Steve in South Carolina | Jan 8, 2007 11:36:37 AM
So much BS! The Pentagon Propaganda campaigns on the US Home Audience are so stupid, but Americans believe it. UBL who?
Posted by: Brian Fejer | Jan 8, 2007 11:37:14 AM
More propaganda from the insane lives of the anit-war crowd.
Posted by: Sandy | Jan 8, 2007 11:44:27 AM
We need to fight fire with fire. We have to beef up our response to this type of propaganda. And the most dangerous problem right now is the fith estate.
Posted by: Zig Grutza | Jan 8, 2007 11:44:33 AM
Strange
This Al Qaeda tape although total BS sounds a lot like american news footage from Iraq on any given night.
Posted by: mike loughman | Jan 8, 2007 11:46:45 AM
The voice sounded an awful lot like Dick Durbin.
Posted by: coolcad | Jan 8, 2007 11:48:55 AM
Interesting tactic... Unfortunately Iraqi insergents appear to be getting much more media savy then we might of expected.
Too bad Al Jazeera seems to broadcast anything, without checking any facts.
Posted by: Andrew | Jan 8, 2007 11:49:28 AM
How interesting it is that there are no comments on this artical. If this was a true event, and our soldiers were proven to be murderers, rapiest and the rest, you would see this on every left wing blog in the world. Thank God this soldier is alive. I pray this story didn't cause his family or friends any distress. This should magnify what dispicable people are fighting against us. They will go to any lenghts to defame our fine young men and women in the Armed Services.
Posted by: Windyjo | Jan 8, 2007 11:52:47 AM
Imagine that, the insurgents and Arab press lie. This should shake the ground in the newsrooms of Western news outlets who have given so much credit to terrorist videos and propaganda.
Posted by: Brian Marshall | Jan 8, 2007 11:59:47 AM
...what I find most interesting about this story is that there is fundamentally no difference between propoganda from an "insurgent" aka follower of the radical Islamic cult & their agenda and what we see every day from the liberal mass media & their agenda. Both camps are desperate for U.S. failure in Iraq & know that a campaign to demoralize Americans against the effort represents the most critical field of battle.
Posted by: dogsoul | Jan 8, 2007 12:18:36 PM
It seems that AlQueda not only copies Hitlers deadth squads, they are also becoming proficient at Propraganda that Hitler was very good at turning out outright lies, that those who do not think for themselves will believe hook line and sinker. Ben Laden had very bad kidneys and had to have dialysis daily. That is why he is dead. there haas been no video of him, and the taped messages are put together to make us believe that he is alive. I bet that Ben Laden has been enjoying the 72 virgins waiting for Saddam to join him with ALLA. The truth is the U.S. probably hit him when he was trying to escape from Afghanistan.
Posted by: Thomas RCoffman | Jan 8, 2007 12:23:46 PM
No way....you mean that al-Jazeera isn't telling the truth? Holy Crap...that's where out media sources most of their information.
Strange how our public here is ready to believe a network that does this type of thing before they believe the word of their own country.
Posted by: The Stout Republican | Jan 8, 2007 12:24:08 PM
YouTube has the video, and the person that posted them provides this link to the site that created this video.
Posted by: Adam | Jan 8, 2007 12:27:09 PM
With the widespread availability of computerized editing software, people should not be surprised by the concept that psychological warfare is no longer the sole proprietary of funded government militaries.
What is surprising however is that I do not this film was designed to recruit internally for insurgency but is quite obviously aimed at the populace of the West. However, I think a language and cultural barriers have made for a less than authentic propaganda piece. Who would say “The marijuana-rolled cigarettes” for instance?
People learn from their mistakes and it’s scary to think that we will probably only see slicker productions of this nature in the future.
Posted by: ian | Jan 8, 2007 12:28:51 PM
Last time I checked, propaganda videos released by the insurgency don't constitute "anti-war videos." The title of this article is misleading.
Posted by: Christopher | Jan 8, 2007 12:44:00 PM
What's the difference between this and CBS 60-Minute story on Pres Bush's reserve service? Looks the terrorists learned well form CBS and all the other 'news' sorurces in the US.
Posted by: schowtab | Jan 8, 2007 12:46:57 PM
My comment? I am highly impressed that there are, to my knowledge, seven more sane and knowledge Americans. Now if there were only more of us in the traditional media. I was surprised when Dan Rather moved to some sort of Hi-Def news channel. Won't that show more clearly how genuinely wrong he really is?
Posted by: David | Jan 8, 2007 12:58:44 PM
It's amusing to see people making a false analogy argument that since insurgents release anti-war videos and "librals" [sic.] also have some anti-war opinions, ergo liberals are in some ways analogous to the terrorists.
Apparently it is now true that if you say anything against the war or US policy you are "just like the terrorists".
Posted by: John | Jan 8, 2007 12:59:17 PM
One would have to question as to whether or not this is an Iraqi insurgent propaganda video, or our very own governments handy work. Another troubling aspect; Spc.Lee Kimball Tucker appears to "not" be speaking out, nor is he making any statements, or public appearances. Nowhere, do we see that 'anyone' has physically seen, or personally spoken with Spc.Tucker. I must agree with Ian, verbiage in this message is interesting to say the very least and raises more questions. Kit
Posted by: Kit Atkins | Jan 8, 2007 1:01:15 PM
The arab world is full of misleading lies, to conform its sheep like people to follow thier insane leaders. This just shows how bias and motive driven the al Jazeere network is. Although the suppressed people of the arab world live under these false-hoods, with out question.
Posted by: Jim | Jan 8, 2007 1:02:41 PM
One would have to question as to whether or not this is an Iraqi insurgent propaganda video, or our very own governments handy work. Another troubling aspect; Spc.Lee Kimball Tucker appears to "not" be speaking out, nor is he making any statements, or public appearances. Nowhere, do we see that 'anyone' has physically seen, or personally spoken with Spc.Tucker. I must agree with Ian, verbiage in this message is interesting to say the very least and raises more questions. Kit
Posted by: Kit Atkins | Jan 8, 2007 1:04:59 PM
How interesting indeed! Some good news for a change copming out of Iraq and what's the first message on this particular thread?
"If this was a true event, and our soldiers were proven to be murderers, rapiest and the rest, you would see this on every left wing blog in the world...."
Conservatives whine and moan about the "MSM" only concentrating on the bad stories, then say they make up stories and people out of whole cloth, as was the case with Michelle Malkin and Iraqi Police Captiain Jamil Hussein and then when it turns out the person is real, they refuse to apologize for their absurdity, and then whine some more whine good news comes out.
Well, at least conservatives are consistent in their selective outrages.
Posted by: Phillybits | Jan 8, 2007 1:05:23 PM
Let's see how much play this gets on other US news outlets. It oughta be the lead story. I agree with the other poster, we need to combat this type of Islamic propaganda and quickly. I'm sure the exposure of this story as a fraud disappointed Nancy Pelosi and her ilk.
Posted by: Ed Stanowicz | Jan 8, 2007 1:06:21 PM
Al-Jazeera??? That little film ended with a voice-over: "This B.S. paid for by friends of Pelosi"!!!
Posted by: Philip | Jan 8, 2007 1:06:41 PM
Shocking as it is that the MSM has decided to pick this story up - kudos to ABCnews.com - I'm feeling like the real motive, rather than an effort to report truth, is an effort to say to Al Jazeera, "Stay off our turf - we're in charge of anti-US propaganda in english!"
Posted by: tfhr | Jan 8, 2007 1:09:24 PM
Huh, John, not all who claim to express a voice of dissent over the war are terrorists but those who do are aiding the enemy. It is exactly what the Islamo Fascist enemy is hoping for. Divide and conquer. This enemy has learned well from the Communists in Vietnam. We cannot allow them to succeed again. 3000 dead Americans in NYC!! Isn't that enough to convince you the states are too high to lose?????
Posted by: Ed Stanowicz | Jan 8, 2007 1:10:07 PM
So, ummm, dead or alive, did the soldier actually make those accusations against the military and description of the situation in Iraq, or was the alleged video/voice false?
If he actually made the statements, then there is at least some truth to the so-called propaganda.
Also, are we now putting the anti-war crowd in the same crowd as Iraqi insurgents? Oversight or malicious demonization of people who are simply against the bombing of foreign countries and civilians so that the vast military industry can make billions?
Posted by: Tom Reid | Jan 8, 2007 1:11:02 PM
Huh, John, not all who claim to express a voice of dissent over the war are terrorists but those who do are aiding the enemy. It is exactly what the Islamo Fascist enemy is hoping for. Divide and conquer. This enemy has learned well from the Communists in Vietnam. We cannot allow them to succeed again. 3000 dead Americans in NYC!! Isn't that enough to convince you the states are too high to lose?????
Posted by: Ed Stanowicz | Jan 8, 2007 1:11:26 PM
Speaking of propaganda....
Shills.
Posted by: John T. | Jan 8, 2007 1:12:54 PM
There are so many gullible people in the United States who believe this. However, I do no fault the igorant 13th century murderers the US is fighting, I blame Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, Dick Durbin, Nancy Pelosi, Hillary Clinton, Bill Clinton, Russ Feingold and all the other assorted anti-American liberals rooting for the enemy. Their words have power as we have seen repeatedly.
Posted by: Donna | Jan 8, 2007 1:16:01 PM
"our soldiers during break-ins started to merge, such as burglary, harassment, raping and random manslaughter,"
Sound like John Kerry's 1972 testimony and 2005 seneat speach.
He should have copy written it.
Posted by: Charles | Jan 8, 2007 1:18:16 PM
What about all the lies the US Governement has been telling us all about this WAR? What about their propoganda. What about the "clear and present danger of WMD" that was all BS too, how different than this?
Posted by: Anon | Jan 8, 2007 1:23:38 PM
Interesting how Mr. Reid will not tolerate the demonization of anti-war activists while he characterizes our response to the murder of thousands of innocent civillians as "the bombing of foreign countries and civilians so that the vast military industry can make billions." Only liberals may name-call, haters!
Posted by: Cheryl | Jan 8, 2007 1:28:40 PM
Propaganda by the left wing media? Why don't you people get off your high horse and try watching something other than Fox News for a change. Everyone knows that that channel is a joke. Liberals may be against the war, but anyone who believes that liberals WANT us to lose, clearly is mis-informed and shouldn't be making any comments whatsoever. The fact is folks, the white house is trying to paint this cheery picture that everything is going swell over there but the reality is that this is Vietnam all over again. In fact, Military Times (try using the "liberal media bias" bull on this one) did a poll and found that only 1/3 of troops actually support Bush. WAKE UP YOU SHEEP!
Posted by: jon | Jan 8, 2007 1:32:02 PM
How is this different then the Pentagon paying Arab news media to write fake articles? It's the same. We all lie!
Posted by: DM | Jan 8, 2007 1:32:12 PM
This just goes to show how desperate the jihadists and insurgents are to get us to pull out of Iraq. Anybody who thinks our presence there has been some kind of boon for them, or otherwise welcomed, should read this and think again.
We need to keep our nerves about us and see this thing through to success. I think it's closer to our grasp than most people realize.
Posted by: IM Snooping | Jan 8, 2007 1:33:51 PM
This doesn't sound like a very convincing fake. Maybe good enough to fool Al-Jazeera but it's no lonelygirl15. Even if it were real or a totally convincing fake, it's a little late in the game to be changing anyone's mind who hasn't already come to the conclusion that the war is a mistake. Abu Ghraib was real, Haditha was real, but reading some of the comments above, obviously some people think they were fabrications of the "liberal media." If second-rate propaganda is how Al-Qaida is spending its time these days, it's better than car-bombing mosques and police stations.
Posted by: eggman | Jan 8, 2007 1:38:22 PM
Just wait.... I'm sure they'll start running the Clinton 08 adds soon.
Posted by: CB | Jan 8, 2007 1:39:53 PM
A couple of posters hit the point that every time someone disagrees with the Neocons they get dumped on as terroist sympathizors. Behavor most unAmerican if you aske me. You neocons look more like the radical Islamics than we do. We try to talk and resolve our differences. You just want to demonize everyone that doesn't subscribe to your opinion and silence us however you can. If the Secret Service started locking the desentors in GITMO you'd all start cheering. Oh and for the record - I don't like Nancy Pelosi and gang either! It seems that congress and company is only out for themselves and not for the betterment of the country.
Posted by: skidog | Jan 8, 2007 1:40:27 PM
How disgusting it is that the Democrat leaders and the media embrace this propoganda for their own agenda and ambition. It works because many Americans are far too easily manipulated, and never even know it.
Posted by: Jaque Bauer | Jan 8, 2007 1:40:58 PM
Is the narrator related to Borat?
Posted by: Wally | Jan 8, 2007 1:41:15 PM
Leave it to ABC to start fires and then throw gas on it. Does anybody wonder about ABC now and then?
Posted by: frodaddy | Jan 8, 2007 1:44:46 PM
I'm not surprised at this story one bit. We get them all the time right here in our on Country. If we complain that it's not true and balanced then we are whining. I see the word whine three times in one Liberal Post. The new talking word, well I want the truth told to me.I'd rather be a whiner than an out and out liar. Chris Matthews made the remark our troops would go door to door shooting people in their homes. It is time to insist on the truth being reported.
Posted by: Carole | Jan 8, 2007 1:52:00 PM
Well skidog, when liberals insist on calling Islamo-fascists "freedom fighters", the victims of the 911 attacks "little Eichmanns who deserved it" and America "the Great Satan' - what the hell are we supposed to think about where your loyalties lie?
Posted by: Cheryl | Jan 8, 2007 1:52:46 PM
Skidog,
First -- who's "silencing" anybody? This is an open forum. You can post your thoughts as freely as anybody else.
Second -- before you start accusing others of comparing folks of a particular persuasion to our enemies, you should probably stop doing it yourself.
Third -- I think most people can make the distinction between being a "sympathizer" for our enemies and being what was referred to in the Cold War as a "useful idiot."
A useful idiot is no traitor. They're as well-meaning and patriotic as anybody else. They simply don't realize that their words and actions further the agenda of our enemies. It's completely innocent and inadvertent.
Read this story again. The radicals wants us out of there, badly. They want us to leave behind an Iraq that has no chance of survival.
Are you denying that there are Americans who, without any intention of aiding our enemies or giving them what they want, pine for the same thing (leave, now, regardless the cost)?
Posted by: IM Snooping | Jan 8, 2007 1:55:48 PM
What a remarkable amount of ignorance here. Equating opposition to this war with "rooting for the enemy" is pathetic. So, now 70% of America are "rooting for the enemy?"
Wow, the enemy makes propoganda -- that's not news. They screwed up. That's not news either, but it is interesting; and nice that this soldier's family isn't suffering the loss that more than 3,000 other families have since we went into Iraq with a passel full of lies.
Our gov't has tried the same thing from time to time too. The Lynch rescue was overstated from the beginning, and the family of Pat Tillman are still seeking answers as to why the story of his death was fictionalized by the Def. department. It's all, sadly, to be expected.
But what I never expected was how some people can still look at a war that we were told would take "weeks, not months" (Cheney) thanks to a "slam dunk" pile of evidence (Tenant) that would end fears of "mushroom clouds" as smoking guns (Rice) -- yet three years later, we have nukes in North Korea and Iran, all the evidence was wrong and the war is still going on.
Posted by: Eric | Jan 8, 2007 1:56:13 PM
Sounds like the video was produced by Michael Moore.
Posted by: Vince Medina | Jan 8, 2007 2:02:40 PM
It's amazing that we in "the west" seem to fall for this kind of terrorist propaganda so readily.
Posted by: Sven | Jan 8, 2007 2:05:40 PM
Al Jazeera does not always tell the truth? Say it isnt so?
Posted by: Mike Jones | Jan 8, 2007 2:05:58 PM
This was not an "anti-ear video." This was made by terrorists. There is not one Democrat cited for this story. It did not run in the American media.
And, you right-wingers can say all you want. Terrorist are just like the Dorito commercial - "We'll make more." We might have won this war had Colin Powell been at the helm instead of Rumsfeld. If they had actually realized that there was an insurgency taking place in late 2003 instead of denying it for over a year.
Right now, we will just be sending another 20,000 troops into harms way.
Posted by: Bill Callahan | Jan 8, 2007 2:05:58 PM
This sounds like more Centcom propaganda. How sad it is to see all the trained sheep bleating about anyone who challenges Bush and his personal Jihad as "left" (although opposing him is right wing if you use the classical definition) or "liberal." America was founded by liberals on liberal principles. The people who founded it would be considered "leftist" according to the perverse Orwellian language that the Bush/RNC cult use.
Iraq was a failure from the absolute beginning.
Posted by: ol Pete | Jan 8, 2007 2:06:25 PM
the full film can be seen on youtube look
Posted by: ali | Jan 8, 2007 2:07:41 PM
Hey jon....you posted this: "In fact, Military Times (try using the "liberal media bias" bull on this one) did a poll and found that only 1/3 of troops actually support Bush. WAKE UP YOU SHEEP!"
I have news for you...the Military Times is not owned by the military, it is owned by Gannett Publishing, who also owns USA Today. The newspaper is in no way affiliated with the US military and has nothing to do with the military.
Posted by: Jodi | Jan 8, 2007 2:08:48 PM
I think Al Jazeera's reporter on this story was Dan Rather. He does such exceptional work these days.
Posted by: BrianBroughton | Jan 8, 2007 2:09:46 PM
Come up with something new, anon. Unless you want to call all your buddies that saw the same intel liars, too. Once the words Viet Nam got thrown out there, they've done everything they could to make this a self-fulfilling prophecy. Our military men and women and their commanders are doing a great job. This war will not be lost by our military, but by the weak knees interested only in furthering their own agenda at ANY cost. You don't stick you hand in the cage with a rabid dog and you don't negotiate with terrorists.
Posted by: victoryvsexit | Jan 8, 2007 2:09:57 PM
Jaque, it is actually "Democratic leaders", not Democrat. I have not seen where the "media" has embraced this propoganda, let alone for its own agenda and ambition. Maybe you could give some specific illustrations of your accusations. It would be much more sensible if everyone actually took the time and energy to get real news, from true news sources. Reading an occasional newspaper, news magazine, watching PBS etc would give one a more realistic view of what is really happening in the world today. Propaganda is a pretty common tool used during war time by all involved. It is up to the reader to find out what it truth and what is not. That principle should also apply to our everyday practice of learning about what is going on in our own country, and not allowing someone, (ie political party) or a media machine to brainwash us into believing what they want us to believe to fulfill their own agenda.
Posted by: sunny | Jan 8, 2007 2:20:14 PM
Insert predictable anti-left wing comments here.
Insert predictable anti-media comments here.
Use predictable comments to justify continuing war effort.
Pat self on back.
Posted by: NoName | Jan 8, 2007 2:21:27 PM
Our military men and women are doing a great job. It's their commanders who are failing. No matter how much you want to blame the media -- and boy, you all sure seem to want to -- the war is a disaster. It should have taken weeks, Cheney said, but it's been years. They are killing more than 3,000 Americans with bombs that use munitions gained when we didn't secure the ammo dumps. The government there is controlled by the man (Sadr) who waged war upon and killed dozens of Americans in 2004. You can claim we are winning, but there is no objective voice in the world that would agree. Forget whether the war was just, the fact is, the war planners are failing you.
Those of us against this from the beginning aren't rooting for our troops to lose. We want them to win, we want them to live. We want terror fought -- but know that Iraq wasn't the place to do it. And look -- Afghanistan is getting worse by the day, UBL is still on the loose, and the Iraq war still seems without end, without a specific definition of victory, without even proof that the vague strategy we hear of (stand down when they stand up, free democratic iraq, etc.) is working.
Why the 30% folks still blindly attack war opponants instead of being the ones LOUDLY demanding better tactics and a clear victory is beyond me. You should be angry. The rest of us, we're just tired of being proven right.
Posted by: lettuce | Jan 8, 2007 2:25:11 PM
WHOA, ....Screech to a HALT here on recriminations! I was a staunch, and proud Repubilcan for DECADES! But that DOESN'T mean that I was stupid!
It meant that I was committed to the principals espoused by the Republican Party. I STILL AM, like a balanced budget, freedom from governmental interference in our lives; REDUCED "earmarks" (i.e pork barrel spending) Constitutional guaranties of "FREEDOM" from an oppresive and out ot control government; etc. --- READ the 6th. and 7th. Ammendment!
I will NEVER trust someone who claims to be GOD'S emmisary on earth, unless they/he/she FIRST produce at least one tiny miracle... let's go with changing water into wine in a public forum. Nothing major like raising the dead, but that would be Ok too.
Why are Republicans, my former collegues, so adamant that killing people is such a noble endeavor?
Posted by: Kent | Jan 8, 2007 2:34:02 PM
How do you equate identity theft with Jessica Lynch? That says a lot about your mind-set. You're willing to make the Jihadists morally equivalent to the Pentagon. You probably don't really want us to lose, you just don't care if we win. After all, what's the difference between the Pentagon being run by Donald Rumsfeld or by Mullah Omar? They are both 'bad' people.
The real problem with your thinking is that you believe we can sit down and talk people into wanting peace, that don't. I prefer not to negotiate with someone who insists on calling for my destruction and has punched me in the nose once already.
In my opinion, our policy should be simple, if you insist on threats and have the means to carry them out, we will take you out first. That goes for Ahmadinejad and Chavez as well.
Posted by: Aaron | Jan 8, 2007 2:35:10 PM
There you "DITTO HEADS go with the liberal, crap again. I and others that I know happen tolove this country as much as you idiots. How could wanting a soldier, marine or airman to get out of harms way be showing hate and a lack of support. You guys have really got your fill on the Bush, Rumsfeld coolaid. Even Rummy seemed to be coming to his senses in the end. Thats why he got fired.
Posted by: Don | Jan 8, 2007 2:36:07 PM
I'm sure Dingy Harry and Nancy Pelosi created the video.
Posted by: Jeff O. | Jan 8, 2007 2:36:31 PM
Hey Pete,
Our founders were not Liberals if they were we would be bowing to the queen still since Liberals dont believe or stand for anything(besides high taxes and other entitlements).
My opinion is that 911 worked they just didnt want to kill people they wanted to break our resolve and they did. Al Qaida has thanked us for voting in their preferred party (Democrats), so now they can negotiate.
Maybe Pelosi will give them thier own country again or better yet maybe slice out part of America for them, so it makes them happy.
I dont wanna hear well Al Qaida isnt Iraq cause Bush could have thrown a dart over there since every country over there needs to be attacked eventually (unofrtunately).
I also find it funny when Liberals say well why arent we doing something about Iran or North Korea? lol
Could you imagine if Bush called them on the carpet on that and said we are leaving Iraq to go and attack North Korea, these same idiots would be protesting in the streets or whining about that.
And say " we dont want to attack them we just want to let them keep extorting and blackmailing us like they did our here Bill Clinton"
Posted by: Dave F | Jan 8, 2007 2:48:54 PM
so, why provide links to the video? doesn't that help propagate the lies?
Posted by: Mark | Jan 8, 2007 2:51:13 PM
It sounds like the video is real, but the soldier is alive.
If you haven't seen the polls about 70% of the soldiers in Iraq believe its being poorly handled & generally feel we should leave.
Of course the soldier has to deny everything, he said damning stuff that could get him & others in deep you know what.
I've watched the GI & Insurgent videos on YouTube & Google Video & I suggest everyone else do to. It will certainly give you a lot more information than the main stream media.
Lewis
Posted by: Lewis Goode | Jan 8, 2007 2:51:39 PM
Mike Jones
Our founding fathers were not liberals as defined by todays standards. They believed in low taxation, freedom, freedom of desent. They also believed in the right of property and laws, something todays liberals do not understand. Welfare, social security, medicaid and all other social programs are products of liberals and do not in any way conform to what our founding fathers had in mind when they wrote the Declaration of independance and bill of rights.
Posted by: Rob | Jan 8, 2007 2:55:45 PM
Phillybits,
You obviously don't read. The right wing blogosphere is falling over itself (including Michele) to apologize on two counts: The Kerry reporter conference photo & yes, for the Jamil Hussein story.
Posted by: Marcus Aurelius | Jan 8, 2007 2:56:43 PM
Cindy Sheehan's group needs to rethink what they are doing. If they really care about the soldiers, How about sending the soldiers body armour or care packages, or add on armour for the Humvees? You cannot protest the war and support the soldier, didn't she learn anything from Vietnam?
needs to be prosecuted for
Posted by: 1Lt | Jan 8, 2007 2:57:33 PM
If you read the story on Al Jazeera English, they do nothing but say that this video was posted to the internet, and then report on the video, not its claims. Why in the world you would look to ABC News to find out about al-Jazeera is beyond me.
In 2004 Rumsfeld called Al Jazeera the mouthpiece of the terrorists. Within three days a video was broadcast of former insurgent leader Zarkawi (he was replaced long before he was killed), apparently recorded before Rumsfeld's comments were made, calling al-Jazeera the mouthpiece of the Americans.
I guess we shouldn't compare commentary by you folks, as well as the leaders whose commentary you swallow without questions, to Fascist ideas that came out of Italy.
But go ahead and believe your government, or any government for that matter. That got the Germans real far.
Posted by: Skeptical of ALL | Jan 8, 2007 2:58:02 PM
wow- did nobody tell the cons that they and their war-mongering have been rejected by the American people?
The only losers still espouting the virtues of this war are the same "angry white men" who think everyone on welfare is a fraud and that slavery had no impact whatsoever on modern America, ie DITTOHEADS. Shakespear couldn't come up with this funny stuff- the US is filled with uneducated idiots who listen to an uneducated radio entertainer and claim it is news!! YOU"VE BEEN CONNED!
Posted by: Wilbur | Jan 8, 2007 2:58:14 PM
You liberals are amazing. You trust everyone but honorable people. You want to kill unborn babies, but let criminals go free. You hate the military because you don't want anybody making money from war. Yet, you screw americans everyday giving our money away to lazy people who you feel sorry for but don't want to give them your own money. If you honestly don't think we should be helping the people of Iraq who have and are still being brutalized over there then you are nothing more than a low life hipocrite. Disagree, then put your address on here and I will find someone who will come to your house, rape your wife, kill your family and take your money, with no reprisals. And, of course, you won't call the police because they might get hurt. It's not any of their business anyway, right?
16000 people were murdered in the streets of America last year. Are you calling for the withdrawl of police from the cities? Better get em out, or they might get hurt. Aren't you afraid the drug dealers and criminals might get mad if we don't, and start killing more people?
45000 people died on the roads of America last year due to drunk drivers. Do you want to ban alcohol? Heck no, then you wouldn't be able to get blasted on the weekends at your orgy.
You people are immoral, unless it benefits you personally to be honorable.
Do everyone a favor, if you don't like the war, great. You can not like it all you want. But unless you want your kids school blown up by these madmen in the next 20 years, sit down shut up, and let real men do what has to be done. Your words embolden the ENEMY. You are helping to kill americans, stupid!
You people live in the world of the bizzaros. Just shut up and be the cowards that you are, and be glad you have any rights at all. If you said and did the things you do while living in the middle east, you'd be dead in a month. Let us fight these idiots over there.....
Now that I've got that off my chest, go and have a nice day 8-).
Posted by: John L. | Jan 8, 2007 2:58:32 PM
whoa,
Here is the Liberal agenda and has been since Vietnam your cause celebre:
1. for us to lose so the Liberals can obtain and hopefully keep power. In other words your hate for the President overrides the hate for the Islamic Fascits who you support btw weather it be directly or indirectly.
2. Your main goal is to see Capitalism, Christianity and the American way of life crumble so you can have your dream Communist country.
btw Al Zarwahiri thanks you and you cohorts for voting for their preferred party (Democrats).
I dont care if we pull out troops out of Iraq at this point I say we pull our troops out of all foreign countries now and put them on are boarders and stop all immigration today.
Posted by: Dave F | Jan 8, 2007 3:00:07 PM
We can't win so long as we continue to beat ourselves. Democrats have no plan and the Republicans have no guts. Sure wish Collin Powell was the Commander in Chief. We need a leader with credentials in these times.
Posted by: Carlos | Jan 8, 2007 3:01:36 PM
Who is the AMERICAN TRAITOR who provided the voice-over for this terrorist propaganda video?
Posted by: XYZ | Jan 8, 2007 3:01:43 PM
WHoAWHatBULL-
Definition time first: Democrat Party Agenda~ n. A plan, usually one with an ulterior motive.
Those who have fought do so in order for you to have the right to make an ass of yourself on lefty blogs like this.
A simple thanks would suffice.
Every time any uniformed serviceman walks into a restaurant or bar in the USA, there is a Republican fighting through the crowd to pay for his meal or drinks, not necessary, but a much nicer gesture than being spit on by the scum from the other side of aisle.
Posted by: Freddy Fender | Jan 8, 2007 3:06:16 PM
