I dunno spunky. "Taking" a city would thrill the terrorists.

I doubt you can terrorize the terrorists into submission, Israel has not had good luck doing that.

I am seeing such ridiculous posts I am starting to think I've landed in a nest of trolls.

"A missle to Tehran"?!

Wow.

The Iranians can knock out shipping in the Gulf with a minimal amount of weaponary.

I am astounded by this aggressive talk when we have LOST in Iraq, and Iran is 3x bigger and much more capable.

Don't forget we DID fight Iran thru an Iraq Proxy, and lil' old Iran fought Iraq to a standstill even with all our help.

Wise up people.

Can we all just agree that the USA is not "nuking" or "carpet bombing" Iranian cities O.K. This isn't 8th grade lunch room where you think the USA can simply flex and countries will feign in fright. This is reality where our generals and mighty military are being routed, humiliated, and beaten by pseudo-militias and crazed terrorists and simple improvised explosive devices and car bombs.

Northen Ireland has taken over four decades to stabalize, Iraq will take four centuries. Getting into a war with Iran is not in the cards right now, the US has zero hand.

So what exactly from this picture says this device was made in, or originated in Iran?? Anything at all? Or is this more Bush admin Intel?

Eric, I can tell that Oliver Stone movies appeal to you, but such conspiracy theory nonsense flies in the face of all good sense. Why would our military or our government "want" to get into another war, when we don't have the manpower to finish the ones we're in? Why would we set up conditions just to give ourselves an excuse to start another one? We don't NEED any excuses mister; if we want to go, we just go. Period.

As for those other things, you just don't get it do you. You're saying we knew IN ADVANCE that we would find nothing in Iraq, but went in anyway. Is that correct? Where is your evidence? Because by my recollection, we weren't sure WHAT we would find and we didn't really trust ANY of the info we had. In the American system of justice, if you make an accusation then the burden of proof is on you. So out with it.

Where, besides anti-government conspiracy blogs, is all this evidence that proves we already knew what Saddam did or didn't have? Keep in mind that if we DID know we would find nothing, we would also know that the truth would eventually come out, and people would know they had been duped. If that's the case, why was the inspection process we instituted once we were in there so open and public? If what you say is true, don't you think we would employ the same secrecy and stalling tactics that Saddam had used, to prevent the real facts about the WMD's from ever coming to light?

Yes, Iran needs to be punished! But Bush and his cronies have screwed us up - we are in the wrong war with our forces stretched too thin.

Couple of other points - these experts we have, didn't they say Iraq has WMD? Why should I believe them now?

We (the US) have provided arms and training to many nations/groups in the past that we were in agreement with. These arms have caused much damage and deaths to our opponents. What makes this different from what is happening now? We can do this these tactics while other countries cannot? Not sure I agree with this double-standard.

Should be - everybody out of other people's business. This includes the US out of Iraq!

All of you have the flaws that are making the U.S. degrade. You People: "No, I dont want to do this because this political party says or has done this wrong. I follow , whether they're both blind or controlling."

You people are all lemmings. Enjoy walking off that cliff arguing this party's views against the other party's views when you hit the ground.

I have no doubt that IRAN is behind the most recent devastating bombings against our troops. We had better put a stop to IRAN or we will pay a bigger price down the road. Personally I don't want to see the war on Terror fought on US soil. Hit the ones responsible.

This is nothing more than Iraq done over again, for the ultra stupid.

This technology, for those who are ignorant, is decades old and has proliferated throughout the world. Insurgency groups worldwide have access to this form of simple formed projectiles. It was inadvertantly leaked long time ago by the brits to the IRA as part of a sting gone bad. IRA has shared it with their friends and they shared it with their friends...

If the administration can explain and demonstrate that these simple devices that can be made in any machine shop are made in Iran and are deliverd into Iraq with the knowledge of the Iranian government, then lets see it. The "trust me" bit has worn thin as of late.

My guess is they don't have any evidence and it is highly unlikely that Iran is arming Sunnis who are killing the Iranian backed Iraqi shia.

But don't worry. There is enough fools out there who will foam at the mouth and demand an immediate attack on Iran anyway. And reporters who can't really distinguish anything they are writing about will be part of that proccess.

Let's Leave NOW

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So how much did we spend to develop the armour of the Abrams? Now we find out that simple shaped charges (invented in the 1920s) can cut thru them like butter??
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Umm, the M-1 Abrams tank design is 30 years old folks. They started to entered service in 1980 and were designed in the late 1970's.

The first weapons ever designed that were able to defeat the armor on the 30 year old beasts did not come into service until the late 1990's. The US suffered 0 losses in Gulf War I, but we saw the loss of several in Iraq.

These aren't 'simple shaped charges' that are being employed. These are sophisticated weapons utilizing the latest in explosive technologies to create a metal plasma that can burn through the top-secret Chobham amour system of an M-1. They can only be built by nation-states with sophisticated industrial capacity - such as Iran, the US, Russia, France, etc.

Iran has always been the target, Iraq was just a means to get there and a potential supply dump and staging site.
With Iran being the second largest oil producer in the middle east who but the largest, Saudi Arabia, has the most to gain by having that country invaded, occupied and dismantled a la Iraq in yet another war by proxy??
And c'mon, a little following the Bush money over the years will show you that the Saudis have gone to great lengths to buy not one, but two US presidents over the last few decades.
Is securing all the oil rights in the middle east and eliminating their one possible threat too much for them to ask for their hard spent investment?

It is surprising to see so many comments showing that the American people have learned nothing - nothing at all after four years in Iraq. The only sensible comment I saw was:

"How about we bring the troops out of Iraq so Iranian made IED's can't harm them? That's really the only way."
Posted by: Mike D

What are you blood thirsty people thinking?!

As long as the World needs OIL the Middle East will be a mess.

Let's be serious about investing in new energy sources.

You guys that want to drag Iran into this.... well... be forewarned...

1. You will inspire every extremist muslim to do more damage than in 9/11

2. You will turn a MODERATE Iranian people AGAINST US.. 65% of Iranians are unders 30 and are pro-west and are turning against their president,

3. Be prepared to unleash economic chaos into the world

4. Get ready to bring back the draft

U.S. Out of IRAQ NOW... This is abominable...
Nothing good can come out of an invasion built on a falsehood.

From an American who does think his country is the best place to live, and in fact lives in the northeast, is college educated, and working on a masters...

We're talking about the underside of an Abrams tank, people. Considering that it was considered unstoppable for its entire service life up until now, and eviscerated the Iraqi armored forces twice in less than 15 years, I'd say it's been worth its weight in gold. We will adapt. Look at the Humvees now, some of them look like battleships on wheels.

Please...before you make simple and snide comments like:

"Why don't the war mongering idiots build Abrams tanks that can actually withstand shrapnel"

and

"So how much did we spend to develop the armour of the Abrams? Now we find out that simple shaped charges (invented in the 1920s) can cut thru them like butter??"

Do some research first, and think before talking (or typing, in this case).

Wow! Essentially we are talking about being a terrorist nation to stop another terrorist nation. Don't you think people in the middle-east think of us as terrorists? Does anyone wanna stop and think about what terrorism means?
Gandhi said: Violence begets violence
A gun in your hand doesn't mean you have to shoot it at everyone.

Hey folks its about the money! So far 500 billion dollars. Do you think they (washington crowd) are going to let this war stop when they are making that kind of money. No way! If they can, they will expand the conflict into Iran so that they can make billions of dollars more! Only one thing will stop these leaches and that is to impeach Bush and then prosecute the rest of the gang of money vampires.

copper will not go thru armor plate, that is BS, again, the media, trying to be experts on everything

Build a wall/land mine the Iraq/Iran border similar to how Israel built a wall accross Lebanon. INSTANTLY stopping the Terrorists from Homicide Bombing School Buses. Oh by the way last I recall didn't EVERY country beleive that IRAQ had WMD's not just the US yet the US is the ONLY country given a hard time for doing something about it? Iraq was a Secular country. Iran is not there is a difference. Last I heard Afghanistan's mullah's are living in caves in Pakistan not blowing up Hindu Ancient Antiquities so I think we are doing something. As for leaving Iraq why we have not reached the level of ONE battle in WW2 of casualties we ARE AT WAR not just fooling around. I would still rather have Marines in Iraq armed and ready for battle versus National Guard troops in LA and San Diego hoping they dont get killed by terrorists here.