Kinda, sorta sounds like the United States Intelligence Services are not too intelligent!!! The CIA lied, covered up things and filed false reports all through the Vietnam War. Thousands of lives were lost because of faulty intelligence and just plain munipulation of the facts. Are we going down the same road in Iraq?

arrogance > ignornace > incompetence

This is another botched affair of the Bush Administration. The Administration fails to take responsibility for its actions. It is as if, another scape goat has been found to take responsibility. When, where and how will these feeble excuses end. In my opinion, it will end when the Republican administration is removed from office. The sooner they are removed the better it will be for the American public.

President Bush should be impeached because of this.

Pathetic.

moron* and his room full of dopes salivated over anything that would let them bomb Iraq.

Like running blindly into a lions den, they failed to read the very obvious entrance sign, "Caution, certain (political) death!" All the while telling others to follow them to victory!

lies got us to where we are today, lies by this iraqi and lies by our failed administration* over the lies they* created.

Morons, morons, morons.

That's interesting. Any word on what his position was within Iraq? I had suspected that perhaps Ahmed Chalabi was Curveball and fed misleading information straight to the vice president's office. I guess Curveball was a smaller fry?

What would be more interesting is who hired all of these patsies to play their roles in the run up to the Iraq war. They knew this guy was a liar... they just needed a patsy to blame in the event they got caught.

Ohhhh-yeah. Right. Now like I would really believe McLaughlin at this time that he never heard one word against Curveball. This administration has so many liars in its midst, there is no "midst" because, they're ALL liars.

Your headline and first paragraph of this story are misleading. Colin Powell did not lead the US to start the war with Iraq, the Bush administration had a clear cut plan to get to Iraq - with or without Colin Powell.

This is the kind of non-denial denial I'm getting really sick of:
""This man never came into my office, sat down, looked me in the eye and made a case that Curveball was a fabricator. That didn't happen," McLaughlin, now retired, told ABC News."
It sets out that if the meeting didn't happen in his office then the whole encounter is not true.
Could they have met in the hallway or the washroom or the Capitol steps? Maybe but you'd have to ask him that specific question I guess.

yes you did, no i didn't, yes you did...........c'mon you guys better start tellin the truth or your going to bed with out supper!

This cant be true?
The entire formulation of the Iraq campaign was based on the testimony of an an "unstable, immature and unreliable" source, who apparently didnt want to be deported back to Iraq? Is it possible for one to ingest the idea that 1 source who was deemed unrealiable was the entire basis for an ENTIRE COUNTRY to go to WAR?
And The American people Voted the Administration into a second term into office so that good ole Dubya would be able to "defeat the axis of evil" and finish daddies war? Come on! IN highschool Journalism class we learned to never even run a story about the chess team unless we have at least 3 reliable sources who check out against eachother!
Not only that, But, Even this Curveball person never mentioned a word about Nuclear Weapons!

Powell knew full well what lies were going into his speech; and he still went through with it. What they couldn't cherry pick, they made up; like the ‘doggy dossier’. Nothing like plagiarizing a 11 year old document to make one’s day.

Sounds like they Tyler Drumheller and John McLaughlin should come before congress and be asked about what really happened. One of them is telling the truth.

Administration and media are in Blame The Iraqis mode. It won't work.

When is the last 27%-30% of America finally going to realize that anything, and everything, that comes out of the Bush regime's mouth is utterly untrue?

what a shock, afterall we did go there for weapons of mass destruction, hung colin powell out to dry, then when no wmd's were found, hey lets liberte the iraqi people, mission accomplished!!! uh that was almost 4 years ago. well over 3000 american soldiers dead, thousands more maimed for life, or criplled not to mention at least 50,000 dead iraqis. a lot of women and children. yeah we destroyed their country too. what a plan. so yeah its going well, what a joke. dubya should be thrown out of office cuz hes the decider.

We the American people are being brain washed avery day by this Administration,When are we gone wake up and realize that Our County will be another FALLING Roman Empire, WE are falling becouse Invading other country's for Oil, just look how much we are getting ripped off at the gas pump,
GOD will judge our administration sooner or later.

I regret to inform you that the pawns and stooges that contributed to the plots and scams of the last 6 years are what will ultimately lead to the truth. Demand to de- classify MS.Sibel Edmonds testimony. It will rock your world.

Tenet and McLaughlin knew what the administration wanted to hear.
The CIA partially went with the administration's pressures on iraqi WMD in order to position themselves better for denying an al qaeda/iraq connection.
The blame lies at the administration's door for not having a sound policy making process. But who needs that when your mind's already made up to make war?

Don't try and figure out who is lying because, most likely, they are all lying. These are politicians and elitist career government people who don't REALLY care about the facts nor about who died first and who will be last to die.

cherry picking intelligence to justify a war is lying...

I wonder what the percentage of democrats and independents versus republicans posted thoughts about this article. Not that it should matter what affiliation one belongs to… The WAR in Iraq was more about removing dictatorship, installing a pseudo democracy to gain some sort of economic stronghold in the region. The truth could hit the world right in the face and we'd never know it. Lies and deception is the name of the political game, has been and will always be...

It's amazing that we went to war on the word of 1 person who defected from Iraq. He was so afraid to get deported that he would have said anything to keep himself in our good graces.

You can also see the lead up to the Iranian war that will be started sometime in April. One of there generals is said to have been kidnapped or defected while visiting Turkey, smells familiar? This guy will be put out there to show the world that Iran is behind everything bad happening in Iraq and the world. Which will give the administration it's reason to attack Iran.

There is 21 months left in GWB term. With two wars going the way of vietnam, he needs a win for his legacy. What will happen is he's looking for any thin reason to attack Iran so he could say that it was in self-defense of the troops. You don't put close to 3 carrier groups out in the gulf unless you are about to use them.

When you combine curveball with screwball (Dick Cheney) and eightball (W Bush)and sleezeball (Karl Rove)you have the perfect formula for a nutball...

Can you say political skapegoat? Does anyone really think we went to war over what one single person said? I can't believe the govt. thinks we're that gullable.. then again knowing the intelligence of the average person, I'll bet lots of people are this gullable... I'm frightened for the future.

...good stuff abc. now, follow with articles CONNECTING motive for these lies WITH the benefiting parties: war-profiteers and GOP strategists. THEN the 29% wake up and we can moven on

...and haliburton moves to dubai...on the other hand as far as the administration is concerned I doubt they are smart enough to form a conspiracy, its more of a miasma of arrogance and stupidity swimming in a dream of milk and honey. This is all Rumsfeld and Cheney's doing, Bush is completely disconnected and fatalistically a dreamer.

I personally find it appauling how the Media somehow manages to associate every problem in this country with the Bush Administration and/or the Republican Party. And the story about "Curveball", what the heck is that? The Media portrayed his story like the Bush Administration couyldn't wait to go to war and this was just the excuse they needed. I dare any one person who thinks that they have a damn good reason to believe that Bush jumped the gun and didn't take any thought to peaceful talks before heading to war to come to my house and argue with me. Shame on you all for thinking that anyone could just run off to war like that. The Media should be ashamed of itself for being one sided like this. The Media acts like a child when it points fingers at the Bush Administration for every problem on the evening news.

I wouldn't be surprised to find out that ABC didn't post this letter. Why? You ask? Because they are one sided and and don't post letters that support Bush because that would make them look bad and then they might lose viewers. WOW! What a shocker! The Media is only posting bad blogs about Bush because they are one sided! Shame on the American Media in general. Shame!

I like abc news, but was it April Fool's Day today! One, you and I both know that Colin Powell was tricked or forced to do the stupid thing he did at the UN. Next, the Curveball-this is an old, old story that makes abc news look goofy, gullible and either searching for news on a slow day or following a memo from the White House.

You could have done us a big favor by doing some investigative reporting on Haliburton's new venture. Will they move their offices to a tax haven and expect the US government to defend them and the people involved?

Incompedence got a new name:
George W Bush and his gang! Come to think of it, incompendence is only part of what we have in the White House. They are vicious, intolerant, above the law, and so revengeful. How could they send Colin Powell to the UN with such lies? How did we elect that lot? They are starting to make Nixon look like a novice!

And to think of all of those men and women, all those sons and daughters, all those parents who lost their precious children!
For what, more political lies, more political gain? The shame is the ones who should be held accountable like any other terrorist criminals will not be! The loss of life and love is irreplaceable,disgusting and its a shame we the people are not even that anymore, we are just numbers in a political game!

Who do you people think you are? Why do you listen to the evening news and then blurt out your opinion? This quote is my example; "Kinda, sorta sounds like the United States Intelligence Services are not too intelligent!!!". Who are you bud? Where did you kinda, sorta hear your news? Oh yeah, ABC!!!
Why don't you do your own homework instead of listening to everything that the news says("Kinda, sorta sounds like...")??!! The Media is just as corrupted as you say the Bush Administration. The Media is here to tell us the facts, and so far, I only hear a lopsided opinion. Shame on the Media!

Wake up America!

If it wouldn't be for the so called liberal media we wouldn't hear anything about this.

While curveball's tales of mobile biological weapons labs may not have been proven true, it is interesting that General Georges Sada, who was an air vice marshal in the Iraqi military, and an advisor to Saddam Hussein has written a book, also about the chemical weapons of mass destruction. After a natural disaster in Syria in 2002, the president of Syria asked for help from Iraq and Jordan. Iraqi commercial airliners, posing as relief supplies, with seats removed, were loaded with chemicals and equipment, and sent to Syria for safekeeping, in a total of 56 sorties, effectively hiding the WMDs.

People will believe what they want to believe. Georgie presented "the facts" to the American people as a matter of fact and the American people wanted to believe this was true (I never onece believed it). Georgie wanted the quick easy "war" that would unite the nation and the business interests in the USA wanted Hussein out of power and a friendly puppet government put in so that they could be the ones to open and exploit the resources. Maybe if things had gone more "their way" maybe you would have seen/saw Halliburton move their headquarters to Baghdad. Never ever underestimate the business interest that 'did not mind' the half truths and fabrications ..."If" those half truths and fabrications served their own busness agendas. The facts of Iraq were pretty well known. You had a desert country of 19 million (very hungry) with no fly zones (British and American planes everyday) in the north and south and you had very porous sanctions in place. "They" (administration) never even bothered to look for a person/persons that could back up the story ( chemical labs)...they believed what they wanted to believe and they went with it and they sold the public on it. This is not the first time and it will not be the last time. Collin Powell..grow up and be a man. Pointing fingers and saying "its not my fault" is the argument of a kid. You are a man of great power and are well respected (by some I guess) and with that power comes responsibility. This "mistake" is partly your fault.

Impeach them. Nancy for Prez in '07.

"Curveball" was a defector proffered up by Ahmed Chalabi of the Iraqi National Congress in 1999 after being asked by members of the CIA if he knew of anyone in Iraq who could provide intelligence regarding Saddam's WMD. Ahmed Chalabi on the CIA payroll receiving roughly $30 million each year was more than willing to help out his buddies in Washington D.C.

Instead of defecting directly to the United States, “Curveball” turned up in Germany, where the BND debriefs him. The Intel “Curveball” provided ends up not just at CIA but also at Rumsfeld's Department of Defense’s, Office of Special Plans (OSP), managed by Mr. William Luti. At OSP, the “Curveball” intelligence is used as slam dunk evidence that Saddam is building chemical weapons in mobile trucks and trains.

A staff member at OSP, Lt. Col. Karen Kwiatkowski (USAF, Retired), details the data manipulation in her article "The Next Pentagon Papers" how this crowd at OSP inflated the “Curveball” and other intelligence to justify the war. By 2002, not only the CIA Director George Tenet but the folks at OSP were aware from the German BND and the CIA Chief of Operations in Europe, Tyler Drumheller that “Curveball” was a phony and the Intelligence he provided was phony. Director Tenet suppressed the CIA analyst memo’s and emails reporting this problem with “Curveball.” and informed State Department Head Colin Powell that the Intel was good. To this day, Tenet and his deputy deny the sworn testimony of analysts and Drumheller that they knew “Curveball” was a phony and his Intel was inflated.

I believe that there were CIA analysts who agreed and disagreed with the WMD factory theory like every other theory; most likely, the majority disagreed--except for Paul, Dick, Karl, Donald, George (CIA), and George.

The issue here is "cherry-picking" data and "yes- men".

Another explanation? -Fear factor. Remember "Rummy's" threat DoD staff: "Loose lips sink ships!" As, he made his top general a sitting duck and played "father-knows-best" with most of the pentagon down to one-stars. What hypocracy!

Or, consider "Scooter's" silver-bullet story. Or, Alberto's (what's his code-name?) "Yes, some mistakes were made" story. When covert CIA operatives are endangered and federal prosecutors are fired to prevent justice, it is high time for Americans to stop crying foul & vote more courageous Americans in office.

Curveball made the UN, the French, the Israelis and all other intel agencies say Saddam had WMD?

Did he provide the satellite photos of moved WMD components at Iraqi facilities?

Did he provide the audio intercepts of Iraqi officers talking about special weapons?

Or maybe he's the one who made Bill Clinton and his entire administration call Saddam's WMD's a threat.

No, it must have been the yet to be fully explained WMD's that Saddam had and were accounted for by the UN during the 90's that must have been "destroyed" or buried somewhere.

Lies that led to war...try your liberal BS somewhere else. Your auidence isn't as dumb as you'd like.

An Embedded reporter identified a truck similar to Secretary of State
Powell's description in a group of 43 abandoned trucks. It was the only one that was scrubbed down with Clorox. The vehicle was discounted as a mobile lab by "experts" and MSM. Clorox is a decontamination agent used for neutralizing biological and chemical agents. Why did the Iraqi forces take the time to scrub that truck? A similar truck was also found in a group of 45 trucks scrubbed down in Clorox.

This is Old News. For ABC to call this exclusive is unconscionable. After cheelrading the war all the way, they now have a critical report on a lame duck administration. Frontline talked about this months ago. Most people have known this was BS for several years and we have wasted so many American lives because of thie stuff.

I guess that's why I'm a non-partisan voter. The lies go right on into the Bush administration from the Clinton bunch of henchmen.
Of course the Clintons, being lawyers, have perfected the lies and Bubba Billy even reinvented one-syllable words.

Anyone who thinks that Iraq's government was overthrown because of Saddam, is naive. Anyone who thinks that Afghanistan was a major center of terror, is equally naive. What lies between Afghanistan and Iraq, is Iran. The bookended attacks on Iran's neighbors then leading to attack Iran. "Curveball" is yet another distraction.

Tell us about Nicolo Pollari's visit to Stephen Hadley, bypassing the CIA to deliver documents that the CIA in Europe had already discredited.

The intel services don't work if you don't use them. Can't say a car broke down if you didn't put the key in, turn the ignition, fill the tank, air up the tires etc.

Wake up america, they are screwing and lying to you.

All those who attribute the actions of the CIA to the Bush Administration need to recognize the CIA is not a cabinet post. Those who serve in the CIA are Democrat and well as Republican

To all those who have forgotten the Bush Administration and the CIA had been charged by whistleblowers and the press shortly after 9-11 of ignoring shaky intelligence and/or not connecting the dots. Think this was even a subject of Brian Ross Investigates at the time. The byword at the time "we cannot afford to not act on any thread of intelligence"

As to Mr. Drumheller's claim he tried to stop the madness. How convenient for him and his book ($) to step forward way after the fact and make this claim. Yes how convenient for him, Brian Ross investigates believes him above all the other CIA members.

My question. Why was this story a "Brian Ross Investigates." Just exactly what did Brian investigate. A more apt name would be "Mr. Drunheller Unsubstantiated Claims"

It is common knowledge that the Cheney Administration, with Dubya the Dummy on Cheney's knee, plotted to invade Iraq from the beginning. They twisted intelligence and lied to sell the invasion to the public with the help of the news media.
I wish ABC would tell it like it is instead of blamming faulty intelligence for our unjustified invasion of Iraq.

It amazing me the way the press gives certain individuals a free pass & bashes others. Powell, the Clintons, etc can say they we duped by the CIA. Colin Powell a career army office & former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff got "duped". I thought Bush was suppose to be the dummy. France & Great Britian's intell services were "sing the same song" about Saddam. Bush didn't need an excuse to bomb Iraq. Heck, we were doing that under Clinton. Was our intelligent faulty when we went into Kosavo? Nobody questions that intell. How about when we went into Mogadishu?

ABC news spends thousands of dollars and hundreds of manhours, finding some guy who claims to be the Iraqi defector whose "lies led to the war in Iraq". ABC news will not likely cast any doubt on their story. If fact, that's what it is, a story.

Yet ABC news ignores even covers up stories of the THOUSANDS of positive tasks and successes that our country's brave soldiers are doing in Iraq.

ABC news repeats footage of a bombing over and over and over.

Iraq is a very dangerous place because Islamic terrorists WANT Iraq. That's where our fight is, where THEY are.

I think its quite obvious who post on this site and like Van go I fear for the future. Can anyone here come up with one thing positive to say about our president? Do you not remember the good ole days of Clinton Lies and scandel after scandel.

I always thought Kadir Hamsa would be revealed as Curveball--

Has anybody noticed? CIA said no mobile bio labs; Iraqi said yes bio labs. W accepted Iraqi info. CIA said Saddam and sons at Al-Sa'ah Restaurant on 4/7/03 when bombs dropped on him; Iraqi said they got away. W accepted Iraqi info. CIA had nothing to do with discovery of Spider Hole Saddam; Iraqi led US Army to him and Iraqis (under Chalabi) said DNA matched. W accepted Iraqi info. CIA had nothing to do with alleged hanging of Saddam; Iraqis said they hung Saddam. W accepted Iraqi info. Got a clue what Bremer did with the missing $13 billion? Maybe bought a whole lot of cooked intel from Iraqis? Lord knows the CIA wasn't telling W what he wanted to hear. You say 'but W wanted to kill Saddam!' Yes, he did, but ordering Saddam's assassination was a violation of Executive Order 12333 because it was not in self-defense. He needed it to look like Iraqis killed him.

Terry, The old news and Front Line never answered the question why those two trucks were scrubbed down in Clorox. The question stands. The nerve agents found in WWI artillery sells are still lethal and still cause casualties in Europe. The nerve agents in 503 155mm artillery shells are liquid and persistent. Although the nerve agents may be degraded, like the WWI munitions, they are still lethal, and if the contents of one of these shells were properly released at an ill fated time, then tens of thousands would die in a city like New York. The buried components of Sadam's clandestine NBC programs dug up across Iraq speaks for it self.

Thanks for shining the spotlight on Curveball. I can't believe the US government would take our country to war based on lies from a guy they never even spoke to. Bush & Cheney were hell bent on bombing Iraq and they used lies and fear mongering to get the job done. When Will these criminals in the White House be held accountable for their crimes? It's just like the mafia has taken over our country. IMPEACH BUSH & CHENEY. Return democracy to America and throw these criminals out of office.

1) The whole curveball thing is very old news - no idea why it's rehashed here or what's new about it (is it that he turned up in Germany?) - No idea why the rehashing of the rest of it is drawing all the fresh outrage.

2) Those who say Powell shouldn't have been duped based on his experience - I guess based on his account that he spent 4 days at the CIA getting assurances, not counting whatever else his staff had done - that seems like due diligence to me. If he was duped or drew the wrong conclusions, I don't think it was for lack of effort by a seasoned professional.

3) Regardless of how much "Curveball's" evidence led us into war, I still never saw anything that said, "if these WMDs exist, they are a direct threat to us because Saddam and Al Qaeda have a weapons deal." It was always posed as, "they could give them to al Qaeda." Even the "terrorists" that Saddam was funding (in terms of reimbursing the families of Palestinian suicide bombers) were not getting weapons, let alone WMD, from Iraq. They were getting small cash payouts.

What worries me is now they have an Iranian General who supposedly defected and is giving up Iran's secrets. Is this guy more reliable then Curveball? Probably. Has he always been a CIA assest? Probably. Will he give info that will justify the Administration's bombing of Iran? Probably. Can you say WWIII? I knew you could

Here's the question, the only one that matters:

Mr. Drumheller redacted any mention of Curveball out of Powell's presentation. But Drumheller's redaction was itself redacted, and the Curveball references stayed. So...who kept Curveball in the presentation? Who overrode Drumheller's redactions?*

*If the surnames Cheney, Abrams, Feith or Libby pop into your head, you win a prize.

You're four years too late with this story.

Where was this when we were running up to the war? Why didn't anyone from this agency or any other ask the CIA where the Bush Administration got the information from, and if it was accurate?

I'm sure they were anxious to tell people that the information came from a known fabricator.

Where were you when the Office of Special Plans was established to cherrypick intelligence for the purpose of invading Iraq? Where was the coverage?

No matter how horrifying the revelations, how obvious the lies and the charades, there will still be plenty of die-hard Jack Bauer-type believers/stormtroopers who will stand by their man and keep the wars going, the rest of us be damned. Such is the tragedy of human history.

I'm sure this is a waste of time, but I'll post it anyway. If you people think the Democrats are any more honest than the Republicans, you're all fools. Look at Bill Clinton for example. He was a womanizer before you elected him, continued to be one in office, and lied to you about it. We could all come up with examples from both sides of the aisle of dishonest politicians. However we got here, what this really boils down to now is defense of our country. If we don't help the Iraqis take control of their country, Iran and Al Qaeda will. Plain and simple. Do you want a free and democratic Iraq, or another Afghanistan where they can set up and train to attack us again?

This is a very old story. Not only did Frontline on PBS discuss this, Seymour Hersh wrote about it in the New Yorker magazine in '04 & '05. One of his articles was entitled "Stovepiping". It told the intelligence cherry-picking story; how John Bolton, Doug Feith, Stephen Hadley et al fed the bogus intel up the pipe to Cheney's office. I am not sure if impeachment is enough. How about a public flogging in every major U.S. city, followed by hard time in a maximum security prision. But hurry, before Cheney flees to Dubai to run Halliburton, outside the reach of U.S. justice.

I'm sure you can find any example of everyone you know, lying at some point. (Guess that rescues me from being a "fool" in John's eyes!) There's quite a difference in lying about womanizing and distorting information to justify putting our military into an armed conflict (while we are under attack by another party, no less).

Bush used the same logic ("what's important now is preventing Al Qaeda from setting up base in Iraq") - I agree that is important, but it's a situation he created. It's not up to him to declare the debate on his decision as no longer important, especially while Americans and Iraqis are still dying and our original attackers remain at large.

The French and German governments were in complete agreement with the British, Israeli and US about Iraq's WMD programs before the invasion. If the US fell for a line of lies, so did the others. It wasn't Bush, Cheney and any others you now want to tar with the accusation of bad intel leading to a bad war. Many of the loudest foes of the war in Iraq from the Democratic Congressional membership read much of the same intel as Bush, Cheney, et al, and agreed before the war that the danger was there. EXTREMELY RARELY does a government get intel that is completely accurate, and even more rarely does a government, Republican, Democratic or whatever, find out later that everything that was believed, planned, said and done was 100% accurate.

What is this story about? Does the U.S. now want Curveball dead? What is Curveball willing to say of his involvement?

did everybody forget Saddam kicked out the UN weapons inspectors in 98? you dont want the cops in your house if your making meth...

I believe that while we are talking about curveball we are really being thrown a slider. As we can see there are no teeth in this which end's with a he said she said. What we should be talking about and investigating are the Downing street memo's, if I remember correct WMD's were really not a factor in those discussion's

This story reminds me of many historical events.
It appears the decision to invade Iraq has been made. The C.I.A. was told to provide any evidence that "support" that decision.
Have we forgotten the fabricated excuse Japanese used to invade Chinese Manchuria, the Marco Polo Bridge Incident ?
Have we forgotten the assasination of an Austrian duke was used as an excuse to invade another country, starting World War ?
Have we forgotten about the Gulf of Tonkin incident?

Whether Curveball is lying is irrelevant, because someone has already decided to invade Iraq. Study your history.

so the President of Iraq die for a

just a lie

How can this one person be the only responsible party? What about the “Yellow Cake” lie about the Iraqi Nuke program? What about the Al Qaeda lie about the terrorist connection?

The group of persons who conspired together to present false evidence to the Congress of the United States, and to the Citizens of the United States committed the most grievous Crime Against Humanity that has been committed in my lifetime. Where is the investigation? Where are the arrests? Where are the trials? Where are the mass murders brought before Justice and convicted?

I am so NOT proud to be American.

Colin Powell spend 4 days at CIA headquarters... There is only one reason he would do such a thing. The Bush administration had already decided they were going to sell this pile of horse pucky to the rest of the world. Powell went to the CIA to prepare the crockpot of crap for public consumption.

It's not that the USA only went with Curveball and Chalabi...they also used a British thesis by some undergraduate student. Fits a pattern, remember Clinton bombing that Somali factory? Bottomline, I have the impression that they don't have a clue as to what/where/when/who in the Middle East.

All government official have an obligation to resign and tell the truth to the press when they realize themselves in such a situation.

The US is the hope of the world and Bush and his cronies have jepordized our future.

There is no evidence whatsoever that 'Curveball' lied. Where do you get off reporting that Curveball in fact had lied?? Saddam had more tha 500 scientists in his employ. Here's where you get to ask yourself.. 'why?'

And has 'anyone' asked what Curveball had to gain by lying? He was ALREADY out of Iraq. He didn't have to lie about anything to gain freedom. He was ALREADY free.

And to this day know one knows for sure whether or not Saddam destroyed ALL his WMD's before we invaded. There is no credible witness that says he did. Not even the UN. Given his evasions and defiance of the UN, do you really think a character like Saddam got rid of everything...on his own? DUH??

Leftist media = Saddam's Public Relations Committee.

HELP! I'm stuck in the 60's
and can't grow up!!

'From a mile away.
JF.

Clearly, this goes back to the American public electing (and then re-electing) an "unstable, immature and unreliable" President.

Curveball was just one piece of the Administrations gambling for glory that was based on lies, ignorance, and arrogance. What really happened was the Neocons, e.g. Wolfowitz, Cheney, etc wanted to do this invasion back in 1991 after the first gulf war. Bush Sr. said no, "we would be an American Christian Army invading a Muslim nation, it would be a disaster". This plan to remake the middle east in one fell swoop (which assumed that religious hatreds a thousand years old would suddenly disappear) lay in the bottom drawer with Clinton, but with Bush, the neo-cons got this non-thinking idiot president, imbued with his own mad religious sense that he was some sort of prophet. He was suckered into the Iraq war by these neo-cons. Mix in the Cronyism of the Bush administration, where right wing loyalty rather then deep thinking prevailed, and you got his Buddy Bremer who totally screwed up the opportunity, if there actually was any, to gain police and political control of Iraq with a legitimate Iraqi government after knocking over the Iraqi Army. So that is a large part of how we got into the catastrophe Bush gave us, with the unne