Fort Dix Six Smile, Wave At Hearing

May 11, 2007 12:05 PM

Vic Walter Reports:

Ft_dix_six_smil_mnThe six men accused in the alleged plot to kill U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, N.J., smiled and waved at family members today as they appeared before a federal magistrate in Camden, N.J.

Appearing as if he didn't have a care in the world, Shain Duka gave an enthusiastic greeting to members of his family, many of whom had been quietly sobbing as the magistrate, Joel Schneider, ordered him held without bail.

Duka and his two brothers are illegal aliens, according to the government.

Only one of the defendants, Mohamad Shnewer, asked to be released on bail.  His lawyer, Rocco Ciperone,  said Schnewer's family had raised $600,000 to post bail.

The magistrate refused to grant bail after government prosecutors said he presented "a danger" to the community, citing the criminal complaint which detailed his alleged involvement in the plot to kill soldiers.

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The men, in green jumpsuits and leg irons, appeared one by one in front of the magistrate under heavy security.

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Smile, you're on Gitmo Camera!

Posted by: kylecoppola | May 11, 2007 1:08:20 PM

Laugh it off, boys. You've been treated to the gentle side of America since you arrived. Hang onto your hats, the other foot is about to drop.We'll see you in about 50 years. Although prisoners at federal "Super-Max" prisons usually go insane or commit suicide long before then. Couldn't happen to nicer people.

Posted by: Doug | May 11, 2007 1:17:36 PM

AMERICA - where EVERYONE is presumed innocent until proven guilty . . . . riiiight!!
Any lawyer who takes that case is a fool. The government threw the lawyers who defended the Sheik in the 1993 WTC bombing in jail for treason as well.

Posted by: rattlebone jones | May 11, 2007 1:22:57 PM

Actually rattlebone, the feds threw Lynne Stewart in jail because she was passing information from the sheik in prison to his buddies in the desert...she was found guilty of all five counts naming her, including conspiracy to defraud the United States, providing and concealing material support, and making false statements.

Posted by: Jazz | May 11, 2007 1:31:12 PM

Why exactly are their parents not under arrest (Aren't they illegal immigrants as well?) This country is going to hell in a handbasket.. DEPORT THEM ALL!

Posted by: Dana | May 11, 2007 1:59:17 PM

Let's all HOPE they're locked up for the rest of their lives.

Posted by: CPMJohin | May 11, 2007 2:04:48 PM

If Michael Moore was President I wonder if these guys would have succeeded in their mission to kill.

Posted by: Ross | May 11, 2007 2:41:41 PM

If Michael Moore were president these guys (and the rest of the world) would have little to no reason to target America anymore.

After the Virginia Tech killings everyone passionately wanted to know what led Cho to go so far, but shouldn't it also be as important to ask why America is currently being targeted i.e. what leads "terrorists" to go so far?

The answer to this question is as simple as going to the local library and checking out a few books on American foreign policy from the 50s on.

Keeping America #1 has a high price tag, with the rest of the world footing the bill. Wouldn't it be ok to be number 3 or 4, but know that you haven't maimed and murdered in the process?

Posted by: Lieutenant | May 11, 2007 5:30:09 PM

Thre is only one way to defeat them -give no quarter.
They want our country-they want to take over all. This still goes back to their desire to rule the world once again

alexander the great said if they want to live with us -we are delighted -if not destroy them.

Posted by: JEFFREY CAMSON | May 11, 2007 5:39:25 PM

According to news reports of the alleged plot, these 6 guys were planning to massacre military personnel on the Fort Dix base. It's been reported that they planned to enter the base using the ruse of being pizza deliverymen. They were going to smuggle their automatic weapons onto the base in pizza boxes.

Here's my question: If I have to empty my pockets, take off my wristwatch, belt and wire rimmed eyeglasses to enter my local librasy; and if I have to take off my shoes, have a 4 oz tube of toothpaste confiscated, and get "wanded" (I have surgical pins in my leg) every time I take a flight...

Is our so-called "Homeland Security" really so pathetic that a military base is less secure than my local library? What the hell have we spent billions and billions of dollars on - supposedly making our country "safer" to live in - when pizza guys can just go wandering onto a military installation??? Are there no MP's at the gate? Or do they just let the pizza guy through in a hurry so the 16-inch Pepperoni Supreme doesn't get cold?

Posted by: Charles | May 11, 2007 10:43:49 PM

If you are wondering why are the parents not being deported, it is because these boys and their parents have been in this country for 25 years. The brothers went to public elementary and high school in NY. The parents are legal residents. The brothers were over the age limit when their parents can filed their applications for extentions. The oldest is married to an Italian-American and also has five kids with her. They married in their teens.

Posted by: didi | May 12, 2007 1:43:20 AM

"Lieutenant": After the Virginia Tech killings everyone passionately wanted to know what led Cho to go so far, but shouldn't it also be as important to ask why America is currently being targeted i.e. what leads "terrorists" to go so far? The answer to this question is as simple as going to the local library and checking out a few books on American foreign policy from the 50s on."

Of course, why didn't I see it earlier? It's OUR fault that there are utterly immoral sociopathic mass murderers who are willing to kill innocent men, women and babies for their moronic 'cause'. There are lots of things I despise about many countries foreign policy. But mass murder will not change anybodies policy. Your (completely wrong) take on these guys give them comfort and is taken by them as license for their continued mass murder. You may not mean it that way but, believe me, when you're searching for some moral justification even the flimsiest excuse will do. In this respect, blaming US foreign policy makes you an unwitting co-conspirator.

Posted by: Doug | May 12, 2007 7:02:32 AM

Yes, and the parents should be arrested for harboring someone who is making plans to commit a crime. The reason they are all laughing is that they will WALK . . . and they know it. They will come up with all kinds of reasons like "you are a racist", "you are against my religion", "my mother dropped me on my head when I was small, and now I am insane", "insane people should have a right to kill", "catch me if you can". . . . . . . . . . . .! The US Government is a bunch of WUSSIES, who will stand there and let someone kill all of us and DO NOTHING! FREEKS, ALL!

Posted by: artist0122 | May 12, 2007 3:27:03 PM

I do not know all the details about this incident. Think that these 6 have been under "surveillance" for over a year? Had been visiting and shooting weapons at a range frequented by police, FBI and other agencies? Don't think they owned weapons but used range weapons. They were supposedly infiltrated by FBI undercover operatives and one offered to sell them AK-47's and AR-15's and that was what they were arrested for, attempting to buy the weapons. Hmmmm? Could this whole thing be thrown out of court as a "sting" gone awry. Was the idea put forth by the FBI agent? Did these bumbling idiots really plan to attack Ft. Dix? Sounds like a bunch of young guys shooting their mouths off, talking tough and got entrapped by the FBI! Time will tell!

Posted by: Dan | May 12, 2007 10:28:21 PM

Dan says: "Sounds like a bunch of young guys shooting their mouths off, talking tough and got entrapped by the FBI! Time will tell!"

Everybody's a lawyer these days. "Entrapment", my ass. I'm always surprised at just how naive some Americans are. The FBI has dozens of Islamic "cells" under subserviences at any one time and only acts when there is evidence that will hold up in court. Should the FBI wait until they've actually murdered some soldiers? Or do you think that there are no terrorists in the US? When will the ostrich-like left realize that there are people who just don't hate America, they hate western civilization as a whole and are determined to bring it to an end. If they ever do, it will be because of people who refused to admit that we are under attack. Thank God that somebody is watching out for the country. The FBI is to be congratulated.

Posted by: Doug | May 13, 2007 11:55:19 AM

In the last post "subserviences" should actually read "surveillance". Spellcheck mistake. Should read:

"The FBI has dozens of Islamic "cells" under surveillance at any one time and only acts when there is evidence that will hold up in court."

Posted by: Doug | May 13, 2007 12:00:40 PM

Doug.... You dont get it. The US has itself slaughtered innocent women and children to serve the ends of its own selfish foreign policy. So yes. YOU, as an American are responsible for their actions. You might notice they are not screaming "Death to Finland" or "Death to Japan". So ask yourself, Why is it that your country is the one chosen??
Terror is not an Islamic monopoly.
As for Jeffrey Camson. Alexander the Great said that as he was taking over the known world, So its hard to tell if your talking about US foreign policy over the last 50 years, or "Islamofascists".
Pointing out the reasons for their hatred of the US is not giving them excuses for their actions, There is NO moral justification for taking another life, But thats a lesson lost on both terrorists and most US administrations.

Posted by: runningdog | May 14, 2007 3:04:06 AM

This country is going to hell so fast that its amazing. We let these people in here from everywhere you can imagine an all they do is take advantage of our system

Posted by: dirtdevil | May 14, 2007 2:34:14 PM

If terror isn't an Islamic monopoly, they sure like to corner the market. Religion of peace? please.

Posted by: saltydog | May 14, 2007 3:07:50 PM

Runningdog, you don't understand!

The Islamic Fundamentalists believe that murder is morally required and the only guaranteed way to get to heaven. This is not an eye-for-an-eye situation, it is the wholesale slaugher of any man, woman, or child who does not believe what they believe, or not of their own clan.

That is why the massive use of suicide bombers to kill other Muslims in Iraq. Suicide bombers are standing in line to get their bomb belts and direction. "Be the first on your block to..."

We found that Saddam kept the 'peace' by slaughtering all opposition. With some daily death totals running as high as 2,000 a day, Sadam's ways explain a lot.

Beheadings in Islam were a common occurance, with Mohammed taking time to teach others how to behead a person properly in one stroke of the sword.

The current threat to the USA has absolutely everything to do with our religious freedom, freedom of our press, democracy and our legal system--we are a threat to their power and greed. Nothing more, nothing less.

My wish is that the majority of Muslims take back their hijacked religion and drive out the militants. I cannot believe, or trust, a God of hatred and murder vs. a God of love, forgivness and peace.

God bless our troops!

Posted by: tmblweed | May 14, 2007 4:28:53 PM

Depot their whole family.They all had evil blood in their heart.Presidetn bush should bring law before he finish his term that terrorist should not have a right to higher any lawer. Once they suspect for terrorism either give them death or depot them for ever.

Posted by: Rita Patel | May 15, 2007 8:45:01 AM

Funny, ain't it boys? Make sure you shave your legs in prison. Will you still be laughing & waving?

Posted by: Dave | May 15, 2007 5:17:07 PM

Christians as well as muslims are quilty of murder and worse thoughout history. Religion is not the issue. The issue is who is sleep and who is awoke. We all well know that terrorism is truly a two way street. Words are powerfull, but we have to separate the facts from the stories and keep our eyes wide open. I personally am more afraid of christians and jews, and I am a follwer of Christ and all american.

Posted by: Carolyn | May 16, 2007 1:31:37 PM

Dear Carolyn: What????

Posted by: Manna | May 16, 2007 3:38:22 PM

I want to remind everyone that we're all immigrants here. No one is originally from Ameica except for the Native Americans. Tmblweed, the fanatics are too heardheaded to listen to the rest of the muslims. Majority of muslims do not condone any of their actions. They're nothing but a cult. Not only do they not accept other religions, but they also reject other musims.

Posted by: Didi | May 18, 2007 1:26:05 AM

"I want to remind everyone that we're all immigrants here. No one is originally from Ameica except for the Native Americans"

This is a truly absurd point of view. If we based things on this point of view I would be able to lay claim to large parts of Europe. Besides which, the most current evidence seems to show that what you call "Native Americans" were NOT the original inhabitors of North America. In fact, the tribes just lost a 10 year legal battle over "Kennewick man" - a 9000 year old European body unearthed near Kennewick, Washington. The tribes wanted no scientific research done on the body because it seems to prove that some kind of European people were here thousands of years before so-called "native" Americans. Its all stupid - I am a native American. So is every other person born here. Historical claims are absurd, unenforcable, unprovable, and the cause of the worlds worst hatreds as in the middle east. As for the majority of Muslims not condoning terrorism, that would seem to be untrue. One NEVER hears a Muslim publicly condemning terrorists, but you frequently hear and read of Muslims excusing their murderous actions. Stop seeing things the way you WISH they were and start seeing them as they ARE.

Posted by: Doug | Jun 2, 2007 3:37:10 AM

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