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'Miz Julia' Speaks: Inside D.C.'s Most Notorious Escort Service
May 04, 2007 9:18 AM
Some of the most in-demand women working for the "D.C. Madam" were in their 50s, according to the woman at the center of the scandal.
"There was never an age limit. I hired women well into their 50s," Deborah Jeane Palfrey told ABC News. "They were some of the most popular women on staff."
During its 13 years of operation, women who worked for Palfrey's firm, Pamela Martin and Associates, were generally part-timers, Palfrey said, not professional escorts. "I made sure they either worked or went to school in the daytime," Palfrey told ABC News. Women took around three shifts a week, which ended at 11 p.m. every night, she said. "Everybody had to get up at 6:00 and 7:00 the next morning to go to work."
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Palfrey recruited women by placing ads featuring her telephone number in local alternative newspapers and campus publications, including the University of Maryland school newspaper, according to both Palfrey and federal prosecutors.
The government has charged Palfrey with crimes associated with running a prostitution ring. Palfrey says she ran a legal "sexual fantasy service" and that women who worked for her agreed not to engage in illegal sexual activity with clients, intercourse or oral sex.
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From career professionals to graduate students, most women who came to Palfrey to work did so because they needed money -- to pay off credit card debt, cover school loans or pay tuition fees, according to Palfrey. "I had a gal, for example, who was at Georgetown Medical," she said. At different times Palfrey employed a college professor, a medical researcher, a Navy officer, a legal secretary and a suburban realtor.
When a woman responded to one of her ads, Palfrey said she counseled them to think seriously before signing up. "Many of these girls had never done this kind of work before," Palfrey said, explaining why she encouraged them to "think about it overnight."
If the woman was still interested, Palfrey asked her to send a photograph of herself, a resume and a driver's license to Palfrey in California, where she lives, Palfrey said. Later, she accepted applications via e-mail.
Palfrey said that if she liked what she saw, she sent the woman on an "appointment" to a client known to her. Prosecutors call those men "testers" and say Palfrey required women to have sex with them, in order to "determine the ability of those women to perform the appropriate prostitution activities."
Palfrey says they "were not supposed to have sex."
"I needed somebody to eyeball them," Palfrey said, because "they didn't look exactly the way they portrayed themselves," adding that she also wanted to "make sure they were sincere."
"Many of these girls were a lot of talk and no action -- as most people seem to be from time to time," Palfrey said. Many applicants would initially be very willing, but when they went on their first appointment "they just freeze and they think, 'I don't know if I can do this.'"
If the girls were hired, Palfrey had them sign a contract agreeing not to engage in illegal sexual behavior or drug use or buy alcohol for minors. They were instructed on the basics of the business: how to send Palfrey her cut of each appointment fee (mail a money order to a California P.O. box), how to let her know when you can work (submit a schedule by Sunday evening showing your availability for the following week) and what was expected of them (at least three shifts a week, well-groomed appearance and no complaining about far-flung appointments).
Palfrey generated business for her women by advertising in telephone books and alternative newspapers throughout the Baltimore-Washington area. "The ads were very benign," Palfrey said. "No girlie pictures, no nudie pictures. Nothing salacious."
Calls from prospective clients were routed to her home in California. For seven days a week, 345 days a year, Palfrey answered the calls, arranged 90-minute "appointments," kept schedules, even sent out employee newsletters. The business was routine, interrupted only for snow days and a handful of holidays.
"It was very boring, mostly," Palfrey told ABC News. "Very 'Groundhog Day,' the same thing over and over and over and over, and over. For me, anyway."
For others, it might not seem so routine. For instance, Palfrey and all of her women used "play names." Palfrey was "Miss Julia," while her girls chose their own pseudonyms, including "Jennifer" or "Angela," or "Miss Jennifer" and "Miss Angela," as Palfrey said she addressed them.
Clients were often particular, Palfrey recalled. "The men would ask for a specific girl or a specific type...'I am looking for someone who is 50,' for example. 'I am looking for someone who is petite,' 'I am looking for someone who is like Mary,' if he had seen Mary before.
"And I would say, 'Well, there is no one quite like Mary, of course, because there is only one Mary. But I do have someone who is also very polite and very nice and friendly.'"
For their part, the clients were typically decent to Palfrey's women, she said. "I had many gals tell me that their boyfriends treated them, oh, just purely awful. And they would go to many of these appointments, and the man would have roses waiting for them. And nobody had ever given them roses before."
Although Palfrey abhorred paper records, she says she religiously filed tax returns for herself and the women who worked for her, operating as independent contractors. "I reported every year, 13 years, with H&R Block," Palfrey told ABC News. "The girls received their 1099s [tax forms] in January." Her preparer mailed the forms to the women, Palfrey said.
"I think I ran a very nice operation," Palfrey said of Pamela Martin and Associates, which she closed for good in August 2006, two months before federal agents raided her California home, and the criminal allegations against her surfaced.
"I think I empowered a lot of women. I got a lot of women through graduate school. I think the people that used the service were by and large quite pleased."
May 4, 2007 in D.C. Madam Affair | Permalink | User Comments (181)
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Sounds like an excellent service. Too bad we have so many religious fundamentalists whose only concern is that somewhere someone may be enjoying themselves. Unfortunately, it appears that, as a country, we will never get over our Wahabi and Taliban-like attitudes.
Posted by: an analyst | May 4, 2007 9:44:05 AM
I say if the prosecutors truly feel illegal activity occurred then arrest the johns, the working girls as well as the Madam.
Lets make a circus of this trial for there are plenty of clowns.
Posted by: joe | May 4, 2007 9:46:37 AM
What is the point of a 90-minute appointment if it's not set-up just for sex? Who the hell would want to go on a 90-minute date? What a bunch of crap.
Posted by: Hank | May 4, 2007 10:01:58 AM
Taliban-like attitudes, eh? If that were truly the case and this were Saudi Arabia, there would be no prosecution or trial. It would beheadings, honor killings, and stonings of the women involved while the men would be let go. That was a pretty poor analogy you came up with.
Posted by: Erik | May 4, 2007 10:05:05 AM
Why doesn't anybody mention that these activities transmits sexual deseases? It is unhealthy physically and emotionaly on the long run. It always is.
I am glad there are prosecutors seeking out these desease transmitting activities. Staying healthy will save the environment (on the long run)!
Posted by: pedro | May 4, 2007 10:05:25 AM
It just amazes me that "community standards" can determine laws in the US. 50 yrs ago, community standards determined that blacks and whites could not have relationships. Why aren't US laws based on whether or not they actually cause physical harm to someone? As long as this is between two consenting adults, why should the neighbours have a say? Canada has moved away from "community standards". Time for the US to follow-suit.
Posted by: Dan | May 4, 2007 10:06:22 AM
the legal profession run rampant -- again!!
beat Duke case/special prosecutors/lawyers in robes who believe they are sainted....
meanwhile, Harry Reid/Dianne Feinstein steer millions to their personal pockets? When will the voters ever learn?
Posted by: Liberty | May 4, 2007 10:08:08 AM
Just goes to show that there are a lot of lonely people in the world. A little sad, but true.
Posted by: Bill | May 4, 2007 10:10:34 AM
"What a bunch of crap."
Well said.
Posted by: P. Hatie | May 4, 2007 10:10:49 AM
This sounds like another case of a victimless crime, sort of like prohibition in the 1920's
Posted by: Fred | May 4, 2007 10:11:19 AM
This sounds like another case of a victimless crime, sort of like prohibition in the 1920's
Posted by: Fred | May 4, 2007 10:11:53 AM
Hey, if you can chase an intern around your office and have sex with a page, what's the problem with a little "fantasy" sex? Powerful men are always going to be searching for ways to increase their weak egos.
Posted by: Chukkal | May 4, 2007 10:23:44 AM
Some may consider this to be a victimless crime, but it appears that the victims here are the girls themselves. As far as prohibition was concerned, what about the numerous deaths caused while driving under the influence. Let her disclose it all - including the clients names and occupations.
Posted by: RhettsWife | May 4, 2007 10:25:08 AM
WOW! Another media circus to divert attention from more important matters like ending the war! Is Bush behind this one too!
Thank you.
Posted by: Sydney | May 4, 2007 10:27:55 AM
Erik, Thank you for reading my comment. I've lived in Saudi Arabia, as well as Iraq. I will expand upon my comment.
Ideologies hold out the promise that the future will be better than the present. There are two types of ideology: a state-based ideology, which promises a better life while the person is living, and a metaphysical-based ideology, which promises a better life after the person is dead. The following will deal with the metaphysical-based ideology.
Monotheist Believes there is one right path. Since this is completely contained within the individual’s thoughts no one else would even know about it.
Evangelist Spreads word of the path. Sometimes intrusive and irritating; nevertheless is still peaceful and not a physical threat to anyone.
Fundamentalist Insists that public law reflect the path. If thwarted the fundamentalist will introduce violence, for the insistence, citing the desire of a deity, is without restraint.
Posted by: an analyst | May 4, 2007 10:33:47 AM
Has anyone bothered to interview the women who actually worked and asked them if they were expected to perform sax acts?
Posted by: geneonlbk | May 4, 2007 10:38:49 AM
I'm with Stan, "Expose them all"
Posted by: Christine | May 4, 2007 10:46:16 AM
> RhettsWife wrote: Some may consider this to be a victimless crime, but it appears that the victims here are the girls themselves. As far as prohibition was concerned, what about the numerous deaths caused while driving under the influence.
Where in that article was there ANY mention of ANY harm to the women escorts? It sounds to me like they had a lot of latitude about taking the job, and some specific guidelines about on the job duties. If indeed their contract with the 'Madam' specified no sex, then they were nothing more than independant contractors doing a job (john?) on the side. RhettsWife, you don't REALLY support prohibition do you? Lets run with the Chicken Little theme for a moment:
-What about all the car crashes (for whatever reason)? Let's ban cars.
-What about people who eat fast food and get morbidly obese (and cost gazillions in health care costs borne by the rest of us...[self-rightiously] I am the very picture of trim healthyness). Let's ban averything but fruits, nuts, and veggies!
-What about all those motorcyclists killed by car drivers turning left in front of them ("But officer, I didn't see him.")? Let's ban, er, LEFT TURNS!!!
This is really only a fun story because of the sanctimonious behavior of those on her list. We the people demand sainthood of those who clearly aren't, and act outraged when they 'fail'. We're the idiots.
Posted by: CircusGeek | May 4, 2007 10:46:54 AM
Wait! What..no list? Decided not to release any names? What happened? Wasn't that the point? Wasn't this for the "big ratings"? What would make those at ABC change their minds? Hmm. That's the only interesting part of the story. One DC attorney scared you away? Maybe there were no "big fish" to fry? When you reviewed the list, besides the one Republican that was "outed", were you disappointed? Or, were there Dems on the list and you couldn't release Republican names without releasing Dems names? Oh wait, that can't be. That would mean you were engaging in honest journalism.
Posted by: Nicolette | May 4, 2007 10:48:09 AM
It is absurd and immoral that this trial is even taking place. Any sex acts performed for money were voluntary exchanges between consenting adults. The decision on whether to participate is entirely between those parties. The rest of us have a right to disapprove or persuade them to stop, but not to make their decisions for them.
Posted by: Derrick | May 4, 2007 10:49:12 AM
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