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The Pizza Connection; Easy Access to Fort Dix

May 08, 2007 2:30 PM

The_pizza_conne_mn_2 The six men charged with planning an attack to kill several hundred U.S. soldiers at Fort Dix, N.J., thought they would have easy access to the base by pretending to deliver pizzas.

In a criminal complaint filed this morning, an FBI agent writes that "SERDAR TATAR's father owned a restaurant near Fort Dix and made deliveries onto the base."

The father, owner of Super Mario's Restaurant, told ABCNews.com today that his staff often made pizza deliveries on to the base and to the nearby McGuire Air Force Base.

The complaint says Tatar was able to acquire a map of Fort Dix, labeled "Cantonment Area Fort Dix, N.J.," and gave it to the five other men arrested by the FBI.

Officials say the map was used by pizza delivery men to find their way around the base.

According to the complaint, Tatar "described a place at Fort Dix they could target that would cause a power outage and allow for an easier attack on the military personnel there."

"What we are witnessing here is kind of a brand new form of terrorism," said J.P. "Jody" Weis, the special agent in charge of the FBI's Philadelphia field office, at an afternoon press conference.  "They operate under the radar...they strike when they feel it is right whenever that might be."

Video Officials Call Fort Dix Terror Plot 'a Brand New Form of Terrorism'

Tatar's father told ABCNews.com he talked to his son only yesterday, and there was no indication of anything unusual, no indication that his 24-year-old son harbored a deep hatred of the United States.

"There's something wrong here," the father said. "I came here from Turkey in 1992, and this is my country. I love this country."

He said his son had not worked at the restaurant for at least a year, and he believed his son was working at a 7-11 convenience store in Philadelphia.

The criminal complaint tells a much different story, describing Tatar as suspicious of the FBI's undercover operative who infiltrated the group.

Last November, Tatar allegedly contacted a sergeant in the Philadelphia police department to check the name of the undercover informant.

The complaint quotes Tatar as telling the undercover operative, "Whether you are or not (FBI), I'm gonna do it. Know why? It doesn't matter to me, whether I get locked up, arrested or get taken away, it doesn't matter. Or I die, doesn't matter, I'm doing it in the name of Allah."

"Allah Akbar," meaning "God is great," was a phrase the men arrested knew well.  According to the federal complaint, an investigation was launched 17 months ago after a photo shop clerk alerted authorities to a video brought in by one of the suspects with "disturbing" content on it.

The video "depicted 10 young men who appeared to be in their 20s shooting assault-style weapons at a firing range in militia-like style while calling for jihad and shouting in Arabic, 'Allah akbar,'" the federal complaint says.

The investigation, through electronic eavesdropping and the confidential informant who had infiltrated the group, soon determined the men were serious in their intent to attack a military base using automatic weapons.

The plot never reached an operational phase, but the alleged cell members had finished their surveillance and selected Fort Dix as their target.

Tatar, along with Mohamad Ibrahim Shnewer, 22, Eljvir Duka, 23, Dritan Duka, 28, and Shain Duka, 26, is charged with "plotting to kill as many soldiers as possible" in an armed assault on Fort Dix.  The sixth man, Argon Abdullahu, 24, was arrested on related charges of aiding and abetting the possession of illegal firearms.

Shnewer, regarded as the group's ringleader, said he wanted to kill at least 100 soldiers.

"My intent is to hit a heavy concentration of soldiers...This is exactly what we are looking for. You hit four, five or six Humvees and light the whole place [up] and retreat completely without any losses," he was recorded as saying.

Shnewer, who was born in Jordan, is employed as a Philadelphia cab driver. Eljvir, Dritan and Shain Duka are brothers, all of whom were born in the former Yugoslavia and are illegally residing in the U.S. They run a roofing business together. Abdullahu was also born in the former Yugoslavia and is employed at a Shop-Rite Supermarket.

As for Super Mario's Restaurant, its chef, Joseph Hofflinger, 35, quit today after finding out the news that the restaurant's owner was the father of one of the suspected terrorists.

Video See the Chef and Hear in His Own Words Why He Quit

When asked by reporters as to why he quit, Hofflinger said, "Because I won't work for somebody that has any ties or admission to terrorists." He continued, "My son is in the 82nd Airborne.  I won't work for a place that supports terrorism so I'm out."

This post has been updated.

May 8, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (199)

User Comments

Why isn't it mentioned that these were Jihadists???? No mention of radical Islam except for the last sentence linking them to Allah.... THIS is why we don't take our news from ABC. On GMA they were identified as Albanian... FACE the facts. They are jihadists intent on doing harm to US military. THIS should be story number ONE

Posted by: Susan | May 8, 2007 1:21:32 PM

I feel we should not spend the time and money for a lengthy trial. try them and get it over, we don't need to support them for the rest of their life.

Posted by: L. Harris | May 8, 2007 1:24:06 PM

Great reporting, except you conveniently forgot to include weather these terrorist were here illegally or not. Nice!

I think based upon on current social climate it would be beneficial to concerned citizens that you would include this information, don't you think? Unless the editorial climate for your network is more interested in protecting the rights of Illegals then protecting US citizens. Your bias will no longer go unnoticed. Also it should not take a concerned citizen to ask the right questions and get the information that is most beneficial to the public.

Oh yeah just in case you were concerned (which I doubt) 3 of the men were here illegally.

Very disappointed

Posted by: Elliot Rodriguez | May 8, 2007 1:27:42 PM

With all the ignominious acts perpetrated in his name, Allah does not get my vote.

Posted by: Jean-Victor Côté | May 8, 2007 1:30:33 PM

I did my basic training on that base back in the mid 80's. I remember back then getting a pizza delivered only to have the drill sergeant take it from us because it was contraband. But you couldn't get off that base much less get on to it. To think that we have such big holes in our security on our bases is scary. I could only imagine how big of a massacrer this could have been had not an attentive clerk not noticed the video.

I'm sure our soldiers on our various bases will no longer be able to have pizza delivered to them...

Posted by: Mike | May 8, 2007 1:35:22 PM

should have waited at the gate for them and slaughtered em. Why waste time on a trial. Maybe we would have gotten lucky and they would have brought more with em. Sorry allah not this time!!! GOD BLESS THE USA

Posted by: mylili2 | May 8, 2007 1:46:04 PM

Susan..the Islamic connection was not mentioned because it does not the fit the 'Drive By Media' template. The DBM template is that Bush is the cause of all terrorism and the poor terrorists are just victims of US aggression.

Posted by: Tim | May 8, 2007 1:46:28 PM

Sounds like AL-CIADA

Posted by: Skid Plate | May 8, 2007 1:47:28 PM

L. Harris - whether they were here ilegally or not - does it really matter? Stick to the point! The most IMPORTANT thing is they were caught and no attack occurred!!

Posted by: Rob | May 8, 2007 1:47:48 PM

The Ethnic Albanian identity of the Islamic terrorists in this storyis going to be burried very quickly because the US is pushing for these same Islamic radicals to have Independence in Serbia's Kosovo. The US is acting like it is afraid of these people. Something smells VERY bad here. These people are our enemies by their own choosing yet we are acting like they are good. Watch how this gets burried, IMMEDIATELY!

Posted by: Sceptic | May 8, 2007 1:48:47 PM

oops my post should have been directed to Elliot Rodriguez...

Posted by: Rob | May 8, 2007 1:49:08 PM

OK, they believe in their version of Allah. Here in the US, we have Christians who blow up other Americans, in the name of JESUS. The latest school shooting starred a fella who compared himself to JESUS! Should we lock up all the good Christians now? This is about despair and rage, not GOD. Lets address the real problem and stop being ignorant.

Posted by: Andrew | May 8, 2007 1:57:20 PM

The plot failed because too many people were involved and one turned in the others. 9/11 should have also failed because it was an intricate plan with many players, but the authorities were caught totally offguard. One lunatic, like the Va. Tech killer, has a much greater chance of success than a group that has to share their plans with others.

Posted by: Peter Risbergs | May 8, 2007 1:58:05 PM

I enjoyed reading many of the comments in regards to this situation and if these individuals are truly terrorists, then it's a great thing that we stopped them! However, I am quite reserved with radical comments of shooting to kill these people and the advocacy of violating our laws in bypassing the legal process as it is the best safeguard in getting truth to the public and protecting the integrity of our republic. The fact is, we lock up too many people (over 700,000 people arrested for marijuana for simple possession in 2006) and we chould have much more space in jail for real criminals. Our nation has compromised it's values of justice and liberty for chains of security by the patriot act and many other obscure powers that were never intended for the government to behold. We are not being defeated by a small fringe group of terrorists, but rather within by ineffective leadership who sell fear and not empower the people to unite to watch together. Also, my concerns are deep in regards to our federal and local governments because on the federal level, we attack and overthrow a government in Iraq without articles of war which is also another violation of the Constitution and upon the voice of reason. I hope and pray that America wakes up and demands the cowards who run our country to step down. We need new leadership and people of character who will be honest to the people and lead the world by peace than by violent assertions.

Posted by: Allahomahaha | May 8, 2007 1:58:18 PM

This is pure and simple a matter of illegal entry and terrorism. This is what the press and the liberals did not want. Now you have a border being crossed by terrorists and that scares everyone. We all knew it was going to happen. Not if, just when. Now lets see the illegals march in the streets. I don't think there is alot of sympathy anymore.Matter of fact this might just wake up everyone, we are in serious danger.HERE!

Posted by: Mark | May 8, 2007 1:59:09 PM

I hope my fellow Americans know their history. The majority of terrorist acts here in the US, have been caused by Christians and US citizens. Wake up!!!!!! Do a little research.

Posted by: Andrew | May 8, 2007 2:02:14 PM

Sounds like Allahomahaha believes in dialogue. Lets just talk and teach them to like us. Blah, blah and more blah.

Posted by: steve | May 8, 2007 2:02:17 PM

The fact these were Islamists seems to be getting burried and it should be the big fact. Bush says we need an army in Iraq or the islamists will be here. Well, they seem to be here so the Iraq plan isn't working and W is out of excuses.

Posted by: Cassie | May 8, 2007 2:04:46 PM

Here's a wake-up for the poster that said: "9/11 should have also failed because it was an intricate plan with many players, but the authorities were caught totally offguard." -- Moussoui was caught 8/14/01 or a FULL month before 9/11. France, Russia, Isreal, Germany etc. AND our own Minnesota FBI BEGGED to interrogate him, only OUR GOV'T was ON VACATION for ALL of August, taking it easy after 7 months on the job.. THAT's why 9/11 wasn't foiled.

Posted by: Joe N. | May 8, 2007 2:06:27 PM

Ya gonna metion they were islamic radicals? Answer, no. You people are impossible to get the REAL FACTS from. Long live Thr Fox News Channel.

Posted by: Albert Peterson | May 8, 2007 2:08:32 PM

One great American Terrorist, was McVeigh (ex Army sgt.). He killed how many? He also was connected to the "Army of God". His act was payback for Waco, etc , etc , etc. This is not about Islam. Pick up a book and read.

Posted by: Andrew | May 8, 2007 2:08:37 PM

You folks should read the undercover FBI agent's affidavit about this conspiracy and how it was uncovered - It's very detailed and it's on The Smoking Gun. Read it.

Posted by: Lahoma VanZandt | May 8, 2007 2:09:05 PM

Why must the media insist on not reporting the real story...that these people are terrorist...jihadist! American, wake up!

Posted by: Karen | May 8, 2007 2:11:10 PM

The liberal media first reported that Yogoslavian's were arrested for this terrorist plot. I wasn't fooled though- I knew it would be Muslims for sure!

Posted by: Jeff | May 8, 2007 2:11:45 PM

Oh thanks ABC for mentioning in the last paragraph that they are: "doing it in the name of Allah." Surprized you put it in there at all! IT SHOULD BE IN THE HEADLINE!!! Wake up America, we are under attack from radical fundementalist and their cohorts, the liberal media.

Posted by: WAKE UP! | May 8, 2007 2:12:51 PM

It's time to get tough with these terrorists and put them in their place... LIBERALS won't stand for it, but they are an ignorant minority so who cares? All people who came from the middle east in the last 15 years need to be checked out closely. If they show they have a hatred for our country then they should go back to the country they came from. We should not be tolerant of people who are hear using our resources and hate us...

Posted by: Gary J. | May 8, 2007 2:12:57 PM

Ofcourse it matters they were here illegally!! Each and every person here in the U.S. who are not legal should be rounded up and SENT HOME!! NO if, and, or buts. If we know how many are here, why is so difficult to get rid of them?
Hope it doesn't take another 9/11 for our government to see this!

Posted by: kareng | May 8, 2007 2:13:08 PM

Right on Lance

Posted by: Darkside | May 8, 2007 2:13:27 PM

I hope there is a wake up call in all of this. If al qaeda were to begin targeting our homeland, we're no where close to being prepared.

The recent mall shooter was a radical islamist from the Balkans.

Too many people in this country, and worse, in our government are in denial.

They're at war with us, it appears we're not at war with them.

We need to change our immigration approach and stop importing our enemy.

It's time for the democrats to stop acting like sleazy politicians and start acting like leaders in war time.

Better yet, we all need to stop voting them in to office and we don't need to worry about whether they change. They can go join the enemy at that point for all I care.

The answer lies in all of us, it's time to start doing the right thing. Support leaders who understand what we face.

Posted by: kirk | May 8, 2007 2:13:48 PM

These guys are NOT terrorists. Terrorists attack civilian targets. These morons are spies, saboteurs, Islamic Militants but not terrorists. When you go to war with someone, you probably should expect them to attack your military.

Posted by: Derek | May 8, 2007 2:13:50 PM

6 men killing hundreds of US military personnel?

seems like ABC are dreaming again.

Posted by: leonthepigfarmer | May 8, 2007 2:17:58 PM

Tell me again about "we're fighting them over there so we don't have to fight them over here"? Looks to me like we're still fighting them "over here" after all, despite what the Republicans tell us about Iraq. Also, it looks like John Kerry was right: fighting terrorism IS a law enforcement issue. Congrats to the brave men and women of LE who - ironically - ended up protecting the lives of our soldiers!

Posted by: tom | May 8, 2007 2:18:34 PM

The way this country is headed in 20 years English will be the 3rd most spoken language after Spanish & Arabic...

Posted by: Jeff | May 8, 2007 2:19:03 PM

CNN has reported that several of the six are ILLEGAL ALIENS. Many of the other media don't want to mention that fact..why? Because our illustrious Senators like Kennedy, Reid, Specter are about to reintroduce an illegal alien AMNESTY bill that would allow virtually all 12-20 million illegal aliens currently present with immediate temporary residency, amnesty from prosecution or deportation and a path to citizenship. Let's not forget that the good Senators also want us to provide them with amnesty for all the identity theft/fraud felonies many have committed in order to work here illegally. Let's not forget they also want to let them have access to social security and even in-state college tuition benefits not universally available to all U.S. citizen students. SECURE THE BORDER, ENFORCE THE LAW, NO AMNESTY, NO TEMPORARY RESIDENCY, NO PATH TO CITIZENSHIP. Enough is enough.

Posted by: legalatina | May 8, 2007 2:20:02 PM

If they wanted to attack us, they would, anytime, anyplace. We are wide open. However, nothing has happened. Wow. Isn't that interesting. Just think how easy it would be. Nothing. Stop beating the war drum and read a book

Posted by: Andrew | May 8, 2007 2:21:17 PM

I see alot of people saying Christians are bad, Bush is bad. What does this have to do with the price of rice in China? I really do not understand the comparison. I am strictly agnostic but don't think my Born Again neighbors are plotting to attack a Base or are taking flying lessons. The most important point is WHAT IF THIS REALLY TOOK PLACE? It would be another mini 9/11 in a US military base, at home. It would be painful and humiliating and cause us to be reactionary.

Posted by: Bill | May 8, 2007 2:22:46 PM

Mike Mundy,

All religions are the problem. People are killing each other over ancient books and beliefs which should not survive an elementary school education.

The only difference between fundamentalist islamics and the majority of the christians in this country is that the islamics ACTUALLY BELIEVE what they read in their holy books.

Read the old testament and tell me how peaceful christianity is.

"Christianity preachs total peace and even love of your enemies" - 800 years or so of the inquisitions?

Posted by: Adam | May 8, 2007 2:27:50 PM

Fellow Americans, we have also been attacked by radical US Christian terrorists. What now? Should we arrests all the Christians? The attacks have been growing steadly for 15 years. This is a fact!!!!!!!!!! Ignore it if you want. But please, if you do, just go away. Most likely you'll have nothing to do with the war you help start. Most cowards don't.

Posted by: andrew | May 8, 2007 2:29:28 PM

Sorry - my comments were aimed at Josh, not Mike Mundy. My appologies.

Posted by: Adam | May 8, 2007 2:30:13 PM

Very scary... I live 2 seconds down the street from Fort Dix. Worked on base during 9/11 as well.

When 9/11 happened, the base shut itself down for several days until they could tighten security (before 9/11 you could drive through Fort Dix without being stopped to show ID... you didn't even have to be military to pass through). Prior to 9/11, the base wasn't technically operating... at one point the barracks were being used to house Kosovo refugees. So, it was quite a project for them to upgrade security... it's 1000 times more secure now than it was then. It's just ashame that now they even have to worry about getting food delivered (there are next to no food choices available on base which is why most chose to order off base).

Now Fort Dix is being converted to a Megabase... obviously making it more of a target. Luckily, this plot was able to be halted... but it really makes me wonder if this is just a glance of things to come.

Posted by: Tamara | May 8, 2007 2:30:20 PM

These are the people, Muslim Albanians from Kosovo, that the Bush government wants to give 15% of Serbian land to and these are the people the Clinton government bombed Serbia over.

Posted by: Kosovka | May 8, 2007 2:32:26 PM

3 were here illegally. You accidentially on purpose forgot to report that. It was also be nice to know how they became illegal. By crossing the border illegally or by not going home when they were supposed to. It would be sooooooo nice if ABC would report the truth, the WHOLE truth, and nothing but the truth. What are you afraid of? Afraid of offending someone? Afraid of not being politically correct? Are you afraid of the terrorists? This article is bad reporting, and written by a wimp.

Posted by: Bob Hill | May 8, 2007 2:32:39 PM

As an American soldier it really shames me to read your comments on this story. What a shame that so many of you are ready to toss the constitution and dishonor every soldier out there with you bush rhetoric. The founders would be roll in thier graves tohear the likes of you pretend to be patriots.

Posted by: Harpo J | May 8, 2007 2:33:07 PM

Come on people, just because 95% of all islamists wish we westerners were all dead, that doesn't mean we should judge them ALL harshly. If you want peace, you're going to have to stop fighting them, then they'll be nice to us! Didn't you people learn ANYTHING from Neville Chamberlain?

Posted by: Val | May 8, 2007 2:33:29 PM

the timing of this story and the wealth of information released is amazing.

too amazing.

Posted by: ang | May 8, 2007 2:35:52 PM

I remember reading about another group of people that hated US foreign policy, had suicide pilots, conducted terrorist warfare against our troops, and slaughtered our citizens whenever they had the chance. I recall we vaporized two of their cities and now they are gentle as kittens. Oh, and the world REALLY respected us then.

Posted by: dl1965 | May 8, 2007 2:36:20 PM

Christian terrorists don't exist? Think again.Try the KKK.They say that they are about Christian values but their history of murder and destruction says something totally different.People have been killing people in the "Name of God " for centuries.Stop with the "there is no such thing as a Christian Terrorist".They DO exist.

Posted by: biz | May 8, 2007 2:36:33 PM

Thanks Adam! For a moment there I was like huh? Yeah, you would think this blog would start with your name at the top, then your comments, but it is the other way around. Comments first, then your name.

Posted by: Mike Mundy | May 8, 2007 2:36:46 PM

Mankind will end thanks to man made religions

Posted by: Frank | May 8, 2007 2:38:46 PM

Some good points being made. However, sad to say there are obviously some bleeding heart types as well who seem to sympathize with these extremists. It's not hard to see why the U.S. could have problems trying to stop these nut cases when you have individuals siding with them and helping them out in some way or another. I see more than a few "sympathizers" who could be in for a very rude awakening if they are not extremely careful where they place their priorities. These nut cases will use any and all methods at their disposal to meet their goal and that includes eliminating anyone who might have knowledge of what they intend to do.

Posted by: Jack | May 8, 2007 2:43:28 PM

but wait i thought we are in Iraq so terrorists dont attack us here? shouldnt they all be illegally in iraq instead?

looks like some terrorists cells miss the memo?

At least the intelligence community managed to connect enough dots for this one and actually do something before the fact.

Posted by: ang | May 8, 2007 2:44:32 PM

Look folks, the bottom line is this.... You can fool the American people some of the time, but not all of the time. The fact is is that there are nut case Jihadists out there to do us harm. So much so, they will dies themselves in order to kill Americans. So my point is, that unless the Democrats WAKE FREAKIN UP! They will get their ASSES kicked in 2008. This issue will not go away and the safety and protection of the American people in our own backyards will be the dominating issue in the elections. Whenever Hillary or Obama open their mouths, watch their brains fall out. They are too hell bent on destroying Bush and the "War on Terror", that it will defeat them in November '08!
(Run Fred Thompson by the way! The current field sucks!)

Posted by: Mike Mundy | May 8, 2007 2:44:50 PM

Andrew, you're comments are stupid. If you're going to make broad historical statements, at least support them with a relevant example. Simply saying, "fact" does not prove it. Who says you are a credible source? Maybe you should learn a bit about making a historical argument before you start claiming history as a base for your argument.

Posted by: Nick | May 8, 2007 2:46:44 PM

Thanks for having the courage to serve Matt.
Something Andrew woud never consider.
Paul

Posted by: paul | May 8, 2007 2:47:40 PM

4of the suspects are Albanians from the Serbian province of Kosovo and Metohija. Initially the media were reluctant to write their identity and referred to them as "Yugoslav nationals". That's what they do when the perpetrators of a crime are not Serbs. Just to hide the truth from the American people that we bombed the wrong side in 1999, when Clinton, trying to deflect attention from his sex scandals, decided to bomb a friendly Christian nation - Serbs.

Posted by: Kosovo and Metohija | May 8, 2007 2:49:52 PM

Since Al Queda is busy trying to throw us out of Iraq so they can set up shop there much as they did in Afganistan; these idiots are the best they can throw at us. Pull out of Iraq and the smart ones follow us home.

Posted by: ken | May 8, 2007 2:50:05 PM

It sounds like you have it backwards, if our leadership is so ineffective why are thyey so effective at defeating us from within? Which they are not doing by the way, they are trying to preserve our liberty and democracy from the fascists and dope peddlers that you seem so enamored with.

Posted by: Esbiem | May 8, 2007 2:50:33 PM

Albania is an Islamic country, why are we surprised to hear that Jihadist are coming from there?

Posted by: John | May 8, 2007 2:50:45 PM

I bet these guys all voted for the Democrats....and mostly illegally.

Posted by: larry | May 8, 2007 2:51:51 PM

Carol, the only reson we have science and breakthroughs in science is beacuse of secular goverments(the west) - religion and science dont mix

Posted by: Frank | May 8, 2007 2:53:49 PM

Mike Mundy, you are an idiot. When has one democrat ever said anything about not wanting to protect its people from terrorist attacks? Also, I still can't understand how Democrats are getting the bad rap concerning national safety when all of these terrible occurences have been happening on the Republican clock. Strange. I don't understand you people.

Posted by: MM | May 8, 2007 2:57:13 PM

I say any 7-11, taxi cab, movie rental business, liquor store or anything else with a muslim owner we should boycott.

Posted by: Steve | May 8, 2007 2:58:52 PM

Can anyone name me a peaceful muslim nation that isn't constantly at war with their neighbors or non-muslims?

Posted by: steve | May 8, 2007 3:01:31 PM

This article is pretty light on facts. All they really reported is hearsay from an FBI agent. If they're really planning an attack, get a warrant and find some hard evidence.

All the other so-called "facts" are meaningless. Pizza drivers had MAPS??!! Call the President!!! A man suspected an FBI spy of being... an FBI spy??!!! He's a terrorist, kill him!!!

Sheesh.

Posted by: Jeff | May 8, 2007 3:04:17 PM

How sad. Missing fact are the reason I normally ignore your news. Better luck next time

Posted by: Donna | May 8, 2007 3:06:31 PM

OK. Are you for America or not? I am SICK of all this tip-toeing around the truth. TELL IT LIKE IT IS MEDIA!! These are terrorists! What's more important, your politically correct reporting or the safety of our country. Remember...the majority Americans want the truth. So STOP YOUR SUGAR-COATING of it!!!!! COWARDS!!!!!!

Posted by: Gordon | May 8, 2007 3:06:41 PM

RON PAUL RON PAUL RON PAUL FOR PRESIDENT

Posted by: patriot | May 8, 2007 3:07:57 PM

Nicely stated Bill Clinton!!

Posted by: Mike Mundy | May 8, 2007 3:10:00 PM

this is just another of many scary stories concocted to keep us all cowering in our fallout shelters. considering all the indignant comments posted for this bit of rabble rousing,it did get the rabble aroused. the right wing comments prove that ABC is itself right wing and not even remotely liberal. peter jennings must be spinning in his grave.

Posted by: rowdy | May 8, 2007 3:10:01 PM


" If we pull out of Iraq, then the enemy follow us home", that what neo-cons tell us. Guess what, the enemy is already here and the most amazing thing is that US actually brought them here. Remember when NATO was bombing Yugoslavia for 3 months protecting Albanians and then brought many of them here. I always knew that one day they will "pay us back"
I wish that I were wrong, but the reality is that now we are paying for our mistake.

Posted by: Tatiana | May 8, 2007 3:12:42 PM

well, after millions of wiretaps the feds discover a new terrorist plot after a copyguy turns them in. I'm proud to see our new policies are working! Of course the fact that a few illegal muslim immigrants are roaming around Jersey didn't get anyone's attention is a bit disconcerting, but Go FEDS!

Posted by: jack_q | May 8, 2007 3:17:53 PM

Tatiana, Why do you supose they wanted to kill soldiers here and not in Iraq?

Posted by: dl1965 | May 8, 2007 3:18:03 PM

Illegal immigration isn't a problem? Pull your heads out of the sand. If this happens once, it is to many times. When are we going to stop illegal immigration? When soldiers die here or when families die in shopping malls? Good catch FEDS!

Posted by: Fred | May 8, 2007 3:24:03 PM

re:Tatiana, Why do you supose they wanted to kill soldiers here and not in Iraq?


We let the Genie Out of the Bottle in 1999, bombing Yugoslavia for the wrong reason and bringing Genie here.
It's convenient to plot anything in US as there are a lot of people like those who got just arrested.

Posted by: Tatiana | May 8, 2007 3:27:52 PM

Tatiana, Didn't they say they wanted to kill soldiers headed to Iraq (among other targets considered)? Ft. Dix is a stopover for many troops heading out. How many soldiers from Ft Dix were involved with the Nato bombing? Didn't the father of one say they had been in the US before the Kosovo war? Wasn't it the phase "Allah Akbar" that led to the tip? Whatever it is you do, I don't believe it is detective work.

Posted by: dl1965 | May 8, 2007 3:38:24 PM

I read the compliant which was published in somking gun. These guys were islamic radicals. They have been under surveliance for over a year. Three of the men were here illegally. Seems I can do a better job of gathering the facts from my desk then ABC can with all thier resources!

Posted by: Mark | May 8, 2007 3:45:13 PM

Ethnic Albanians are invariably Muslim, as was the youthful terrorist who shot up the mall in Utah recently. Didn't know he was Muslim? They buried that information quickly didn't they? That is because the US was duped into "saving" the ethnic Albanian Muslims and their Al Qaeda cohorts in Bosnia/Serbia. With US help most of the Christian Serbs have been ethnically cleansed from Bosnia, the historic churches are systematically being desecrated and destroyed and more jihadist fighters are being trained and infiltrated into Iraq to murder our troops and even other Muslims. Our government went in on the wrong side in Bosnia. The post WW 2 Nuremberg Trials lasted 9 months, the trial of Milosevic went on for 4 years and still failed to prove Serbian genocide of the ethnic Albanians. We have sown to the wind and are reaping the whirlwind.

Posted by: Gramma | May 8, 2007 3:47:42 PM

It is time for fathers to take a wider role in their childrens life. In other words, fathers who come here from other countries with moslem faith should be aware that the Jihade or terrorist are looking for the young men and brain washing them to do their dirty work. Mothers need to unite, we mothers need to unite all over the world. Demand peace, demand dialogue. We are many, men are few and mothers are stronger willed not easy to fool, men are. This kind of ignorance is seen even in our own American culture. "Oh no, not my son" "Oh, I don't understand?", well wake up fathers because this is a new world order and the order for today is to kill. Moslums unite, change the attitute while you can. Fathers must take a wider role in knowing what their young sons are doing. check in just like we ask our kids to check in. Its getting to the point where Service personnel will be targeted no matter where they are at. Its time to change the way we do business in those areas. But it is also time for mothers to march for peace. To change what has not changed. Mothers all over the world, unite, peace walk, march together against the hatred in which men are showing. Even here in our own country. We must show love and compassion but also insist and put our foot down, enough is enough. Mothers everywhere, go on strike, walk, march for peace where ever you are. Linda Corrigan, Oxnard CA

Posted by: Linda Corrigan | May 8, 2007 3:51:00 PM


One says:

"Or I die, doesn't matter, I'm doing it in the name of Allah."

Give them what they want, death.

Posted by: Frank | May 8, 2007 3:51:15 PM

To all those who keep comparing Islam and Christianity go do some reading. Before you defend Islam, read the Koran. Only in a book as sacred as the Koran will you find specific instructions on the proper size of a stone to be used to stone an individual (see stoning of women/honour stonings). All religions do indeed have extremists. Islam just seems to have a ton more. One Muslim going into a university in Baghdad and shooting 30 students would be buried on page 2. Another difference: the Christians committing these acts are extreme nutjobs; the Muslims in Iraq who blow themselves up on a daily basis are not insane at all; they are merely following the guidance of Islam, the religion of peace. "Islam" means submission. The Koran says peace will not be achieved until the installation of the caliphate/Sharia law and the world submits to Islam. So stand by and defend them, enjoy your stoning.

Posted by: James | May 8, 2007 3:53:15 PM

Tom: I didn't say that re: Communism, jeema did. I'm on your side.

Posted by: dave | May 8, 2007 3:55:51 PM

bonko: You misunderstood me to some degree.

And, yes, that might be a good idea until the undesirable elements are gone.

As to your question - like I said, a public delaration of allegiance(s). It could be done democratically. And should be.

Posted by: dave | May 8, 2007 3:59:52 PM

FRANCE has been liberated!!!

I hated France once, now I'm cool!!

We now have a new friend in the war on terrorism with President-Elect Sarkozy!!

Congrats to our French cousins!

Posted by: Mike Mundy | May 8, 2007 4:02:48 PM

By the way, why make such a deal about New Jersey? Let 'em have it.

It's mostly just guys in '84 Camaros and Big Pharma company headquarters.

Pave it over when done; we need the parking in NYC anyhow.

Posted by: dave | May 8, 2007 4:12:50 PM

I live around the corner from 3 of these suspects in Cherry Hill, NJ. My family along with other neighbors have had suspicions about this house for a long time. Shocking to see the results.

Posted by: Sara | May 8, 2007 4: