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How do you know they are nothing but terrorists anyway, without a fair trial? What if someone kidnapped you off the street and sent you to who knows where to be harshly interrogated, then said: Sorry, we made a mistake...
There are some basic personal rights which should be respected. Remember when the nazis suspended habeas corpus? Those were good reasons to suspent one's rights, no? THERE IS NO GOOD REASON to suspend habeas corpus.

Seems to me some people at the CIA doth protest too much.

We are in a dirty war, against a foe who wrote the book on fighting dirty. There is no good reason to fight them with one hand tied behind our back. Thats how we force our teachers to operate. I'd like this war to turn out better then our kids.
In this country you rarely get "picked up" unless your somewhere you should'nt be, doing something you should'nt be doing. In the third world things are a little more confusing. Thats not the fault of the CIA, or the U.S. goverment (no matter how much you'd like to blame them ), it's the fault of a group of "power mongers" who want to destroy civilization, as we know it. Living side by side, with tolerance, is'nt in their playbook.
The CIA, and FBI, have done a hella' of a job protecting us since 9/11. My most heartfelt thanks go out to both departments.

No wonder so many people are wrongly convicted in this country of due process. Too many people play at being judge, jury and executioner without knowing any actual and sworn to evidence. Just because someone says they have a case doesn't mean they do. Just because someone denies wrongdoing doesn't mean they're innocent.
Guilt or innocence doesn't rest upon a person's likes or dislikes of another. Why do you think there was a tradition in Congress, for a while, not to swear in witnesses or why some had "conversations" as opposed to giving testimony and being, sworn in when speaking to the 9-11 Commission?

Seems like theirs alot of people out there, worried about being "wrongly accused. What are you'all doing in your spare time ?!

You mustn't forget that the ancestors of a great number of Americans believed in 'trial by ordeal'. We had the Salem Witch trials and the McCarthy communist persecutions. You can't convince a large segment of the population that there is such a thing as barbarism when it is practiced against 'Them'. The greatest of Americans believe that noone is protected, if the weakest and most defenseless is not protected. However, there is a howling mob that believes that a lot of the things that we consider crimes when done to us, should be made legal and required to be done by us.

"The Howling Mob" speaks; No war has ever been won, by fighting it in a "civil" and "fair" manner.

I just finished reading George Tenent's At the Center of the Storm. I remember how jaw dropping 9/11 was. And I for one have to say " Let them do what they have to do... to them!" Just don't do it to me!! I think that's how most people feel.
Everyone should read his book, and see SOME of what they live every day. I don't hear anyone debating any of it. They was a media slash when it went sale. Mr. Tenent appeared on a talk show or two, but nothing recently. I'm very patiently waiting, he got to zing alot of those zinger's in D.C.
I did read Woodwards last book, that helped!!!
CIA keep up the good work!
Jay

There should not be prying eyes and special interest groups telling the CIA how to, or how not to interrogate detained suspects. The location of detention facilities should not be public either. The CIA is after critical & sensitive information that just might lead to an important arrest, or leads to a planned major terrorist operation. They don't detain those people just for an opportunity to sit down and eat chicken & dumplins with them.

This Administration has committed one high crime after another and absolutely nothing has been done to check these injustices!

Its will always be difficult to fighting a religion. We know its stated aims and we can arrest operatives, but we still need to stop importing the fifth column, be they refugees or Doctors. We also needed to stop training and charity to our so-called friends as they use the knowledge and the money gained against us. We need to make daily bread more of a challenge, so they can occupy them selves seeking substance. Can you imaging the world if the money spent on the war was spent developing replacements for oil! What would the Middle East become, a desert prison!

One of the things we learned in basic training during the vietnam war was not to expect the enemy to treat us (who were caught) according to the Geneva convention. War is dirty. The enemy is not going to be civil and will not give you pertinent info that might save some of your comrads at arms. The enemy we now fight learned well mixing their religious fanaticism with communist and nazi tactics.. People use your brains, the way we are going caving in to world opinion ..one day you will find that enemy on your doorstep. If you have daughters - may God have mercy on her. Check how they are telling Christians in Lebanon to be taxed specially as a dimmy and to give up their daughters to the terrorist fighters. These people do not know the word mercy.

Pick up whatever holy book you choose to follow, raise your right hand and swear before the Almighty that you approve of torture, murder and the right to condemn another human being without trial; read the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence and the various declarations covering human rights and renounce their intent; visit the countries where some 1200 people have been illegally and secretly snatched up and transported away and tell their govenments and their people that you're going to keep doing it; tell the people of all those countries Americans liberated from torturing tyrants in the past that you yourselves condone torture and murder now. Justify the invasion of Iraq and the death of hundreds of thousands of civilians even though the presidend and there was no Iraqi involvement in 9/11 or WMD's.
Can you do those things, then look up at the Flag, and call yourself an American? Because if you can, then America and all it stands for in the eyes of the world has changed. The invasion of Afganistan was condoned, understood and supported by pretty much the whole world. What's happening now, and the current administration governing U.S. conduct at home and abroad, is responsible for a radical change in world opinion.
All I can add is that at least not everyone is a neocon and its great news knowing that most American are awake now, and the rest will shake the stardust from their eyes as the truth comes to light.

There is a reason the CIA is not allowed to operate in the U.S., they have to do things against others that we as a nation would not allow to be done to us.

There has been a coup d' etat in the American government. The Satanic members of the CFR, Trilateral Commission, Bilderbergers and other secret societies have captured government. Belli Legum Dormit--In War the Law Sleeps. Their goal is to reek havoc on the population in order to establish a World Wide Police State in preparation for the dreaded AntiChrist.
Read Programmed To Kill, by David McGowan. It is definitely time to lock and load ind defense of Liberty.
May God bless our endeavor.

Why are so many ready to believe anything the left leaning (or, more accurately, far left leaning)European folks may say. Who had to rescue then twice in 30 years? And, from dangers of which they were well aware. If the CIA did it, I would hope they will not cease because of a few left wing wimps, who celebrate Stalin, Hugo Chavez, Fidel, Che, etc., etc. Open your eyes before the Islamic hoardes do to the US what they are already doing to the stuipid Europeans. Possibly the French (John Kerry's moral compass) have awakened. 'Till then, the CIA will have to police Europe as well as the US. Remember, not one attack on the US since 9/11!! Keep up the good work, CIA!

what's the hell is a neocon? morons it's not about patriotism it's called survival for a nation...

Good point Brian on the power mongers. The only question I have is were you talking about the ones in the U.S. or some others.?

Sorry Brian I meant Eric the super patriot

What if terrorist groups will do the same tactics; take American troop from Iraq, bring it to Afghanistan and do whatever they want?
Is this how democracy works?

Rashid821:

They do not take them to Afghanistan, they torture them in Iraq and then behead them. That is who we are fighting. By the way, the term "torture" has aquired many meanings to the left. Not providing the food they like is called torture. I am sure that Paris Hilton believes that simply being in jail is torture. I personally believe that waterboarding is not torture, but some disagree. Flying a plane into the World Trade Center and igniting all that avgas forcing innocent people to choose beteen buring to death or leaping to death is torture.

Richard - you nailed it on the head.

Why I even waste my time on these blogs is unknown -- ignorance must truly be bliss! For the rest of the informed masses, our intelligence and vision translates into our burden to defend our nation in spite of our 'brothers and sisters' who simply are blided by the self-hating serum being spooned to them by the media and our educational system... they know not how to do anyting but decry our ways - "those poor terrorists - being interrogated by big, bad US war mongers... here, let me save you..."

Story comes to mind... person sees a poisonous snake dying - coaxes it back to health - snake bites the person and as the person lay dying asks "Snake, why did you bite me, I brought you back to life, I saved you..?" ... Snake replied "dumbass, you knew I was a Snake!"... some of us don't need to be bitten to know the dangers of snakes and how to prevent snake bites...

... and then some of use, like sleepwalkingonplanetearth think they're helping -- we're not neocons (new era conservatives) we're reasonable people clearly burdened by our lucid awareness that we are the only ones standing up in defense of freedom, the rest, like you, talk a good game but cower and shy away from difficult tasks... now run off and play with your toys while real men sort out things of concern to men... like maintaining our way of life!

I just remembered... Gee how much longer will they try to be right no matter how wrong they are?

You never make peace through conquest. Do all you right wingers believe god is on your side? "My god says kill them brown skinned terrorists, look at him with his turban, he's gotta be out to kill me," Yet I seem to recall that Iraq had nothing to do with 911. So why the confusion? "Well a goddamn Arab is an Arab", seems to be reason enough for a good majority of Americans. "Saddam was evil", that must be why you helped him to power and armed him,same with Osama whats his name, whom you seem to have forgotten, because why? Cause he's a real terrorist of course. " I hear Iran has A-rabs that needs a good bombing" Dear lord, please wake these people up!

This enemy will try to defeat us (combatants and non-combatants alike) by any means necessary. They will target you, your spouse, your children with not remorse. You and I are nothing to them or their belief system—you are a kafir- an infidel who can be and ‘should be’ destroyed. This enemy does not honor our way of life, or our lives. They will use any and all tactics to overcome us.
In WWII how many Nazi POWs were given a trial before they were placed under lock and key? These are enemy combatants (in uniforms or not) and this war is not a traditional war, so in turn we develop new strategies and tactics to overcome, out-do, and commandeer the enemy and its leadership. The CIA is doing just that--- doing what needs to be done. I hope they keep doing what they are doing so that the battle does not spread to our cities and streets.
Here is a quote from War Fighting The U.S. Marine Corps Book of Strategy so as to contemplate just what these CIA protestors and the leftwing-leadership are doing: “Positions are seldom lost because they have been destroyed, but almost invariably because the leader has decided in his own mind that the position cannot be held.” (A.A. Vandegrift)

What comes around ,goes around. What laws? what due proccess? geneiva convention? If we are attacked again, hope secret prisons only hold those that failed the American people. Without a trial, for ever.

So all this, beleive it or not based on a war that Bush says we are in.( Really serious isin`t he) Show me a decloration! Show me the borders are closed, Show me, that the current LAWS are being enforced. Show me the face of the terorrist, that my fellow Americans are dying for! Truth hurts, and because the Politicians, (government) has not done what the people of this country have demanded them to do, they will feel the wrath, with no mercy, if we are attacked here in the US again.
May God help them.

I don't understand how we, Americans, can all of a sudden become hardened to human rights abuses. We have now become the abusers. When Ben Franklin said that to give up liberty and freedoms in order to feel safe, then we don't deserve either of them. How do we really know that all these measures that this administration has done "for our safety" have really done anything to keep us safe? How do we really know they have stopped terrorist's plots? All we have is this administrations word for it, and that hasn't been very reliable, has it? They have lied and lied over and over again. I personally don't believe that the terrorists have needed to do anything else to us. All they had to do was 9/11 and then sit back and watch what we did to ourselves out of fear. This administration has used fear to promote it's agenda. And it's the fear factor that is the real terrorist.

lucid awareness that we are the only ones standing up in defense of freedom,

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Do you wingnuts STILL think that our freedoms are in danger? Or ever were? You see, us left-leaning folks are definately interested in protecting our freedoms, such as in ww2. The problem here, is our freedom or civilization was never in any danger. That is the lie.

I just remembered... Gee how much longer will they try to be right no matter how wrong they are?

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you mean the wingnuts? Who knows, there is about a 22% holdout going on now..