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FBI Terror Watch List 'Out of Control'
June 13, 2007 8:55 AM
A terrorist watch list compiled by the FBI has apparently swelled to include more than half a million names.
Privacy and civil liberties advocates say the list is growing uncontrollably, threatening its usefulness in the war on terror.
The bureau says the number of names on its terrorist watch list is classified.
A portion of the FBI's unclassified 2008 budget request posted to the Department of Justice Web site, however, refers to "the entire watch list of 509,000 names," which is utilized by its Foreign Terrorist Tracking Task Force.
A spokesman for the interagency National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), which maintains the government's list of all suspected terrorists with links to international organizations, said they had 465,000 names covering 350,000 individuals. Many names are different versions of the same identity -- "Usama bin Laden" and "Osama bin Laden" for the al Qaeda chief, for example.
In addition to the NCTC list, the FBI keeps a list of U.S. persons who are believed to be domestic terrorists -- abortion clinic bombers, for example, or firebombing environmental extremists, who have no known tie to an international terrorist group.
Combined, the NCTC and FBI compendia comprise the watch list used by federal security screening personnel on the lookout for terrorists.
While the NCTC has made no secret of its terrorist tally, the FBI has consistently declined to tell the public how many names are on its list. Because the number is classified, an FBI spokesman told the Blotter on ABCNews.com, he was unable to comment for this story.
"It grows seemingly without control or limitation," said ACLU senior legislative counsel Tim Sparapani of the terrorism watch list. Sparapani called the 509,000 figure "stunning."
"If we have 509,000 names on that list, the watch list is virtually useless," he told ABC News. "You'll be capturing innocent individuals with no connection to crime or terror."
U.S. lawmakers and their spouses have been detained because their names were on the watch list.
Reporters who have reviewed versions of the list found it included the names of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, at the time he was alive but in custody in Iraq; imprisoned al Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui; and 14 of the 19 Sept. 11, 2001 hijackers, all of whom perished in the attacks.
"There's a reason the FBI has a '10 Most Wanted' list, right? We need to focus the government's efforts on the greatest threats. When the watch list grows to this level, it's useless as an anti-terror tool," Sparapani said.
Do you have a tip for Brian Ross and the Investigative Team?
June 13, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (275)
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Nothing new, just like the airplane purchased to support terrorism, it's being used by Mueller for personal use is even more uncontrollable. His excuse, it's for terrorism speeches, for his security and for the moral of the bureau personnel. Since when????
Posted by: marc | Jun 13, 2007 9:10:47 AM
It's getting a little ridiculous. My husband can no longer check in early for flights to avoid long lines due to his name being similiar to a suspected terrorist. And it's not even "foreign"--it's a very common first and last name.
Posted by: Emily | Jun 13, 2007 12:02:12 PM
You people wanted a police state? Looks like you finally got one.
Posted by: Dave | Jun 13, 2007 12:04:18 PM
Who cares about the inconvenience. I can barely sleep at night as it is. I am not paranoid by any means....I am a normal 31 year old female in DC and I am glad they even have a list no matter how long it is..... I believe the list just needs to evolve with the times and more man power is needed to do it. Its because of these liberals that believe we are sitting pretty and doin just fine shaking our hands with the enemies that this kind of stuff is getting news. Do you care or dont you that we are sitting ducks?
Posted by: becca | Jun 13, 2007 12:08:57 PM
Unfortunately it looks as if we are going to have to start profiling. I don't want to here that that is against persons rights. It is different times we live in and if we are going to survive, then we must do what we must do.
Posted by: Judy | Jun 13, 2007 12:19:21 PM
Jeez becca, quit watching Fox News and all the Bush propaganda and get a grip.
9/11 was caused by a small group of people. Instead of trying to bring those people to justice, our neo-fascist government used this as an excuse to expand their military corporate welfare system. Osama? According to our President, he's irrelevant.
The War on Terror, Afghanistan and Iraq have nothing to do with real threats to Americans. They are a way to expand the neo-fascist corporate/military alliance in this country.
If a criminal you know kills a member of your family, should the police ignore that person and arrest a person they don't like in another part of the country. That is the equivalent of the War on Terror. This crooked administration ignores the perpetrators of the crimes and goes on expensive expeditions to destroy political enemies who won't tow their extremist political line.
Posted by: FoonTheElder | Jun 13, 2007 12:25:15 PM
One can guess that the FBI Terrorist Watch List, like the Homeland Security list, includes such "terrorists" as gays, anti-Bush demonstrators, and anybody else that doesn't fit the acceptable right-wing NEOCON, evangelical profile. George Orwell's 1984 has DickNBush pegged right - it was just a bit ahead of its time.
Posted by: ImpeachmentNOW | Jun 13, 2007 12:25:28 PM
It's a sad day when people can justify ratial profiling and the removal of freedom because of their own paranoid fears, which are in large part supported by our government. This country needs to wake up and realize that small bands of middle-easterners armed with a little more than rocks and sticks pose no threat to our way of life. It is the fear that cripples us, not these pathitically weak individuals.
Posted by: Soggy | Jun 13, 2007 12:33:36 PM
becca said, "Its because of these liberals that believe we are sitting pretty and doin just fine shaking our hands with the enemies that this kind of stuff is getting news."
You mean there's 509,000 'enemies' right now waiting to kill us all? And they're all on that 'list', eh? Wow, thanks for the update. I hope I don't accidentally meet, and then 'shake hands' with, one of the 509,000 people on the list. Because, who wants to shake hands with the 'enemy'? Are you on the list becca? Have you even checked yet? There are bound to be a few dozen 'beccas' on there. Please find out if you have been deemed 'the enemy', and if so, kindly report back to us.
Posted by: Eric | Jun 13, 2007 12:40:05 PM
Becca:
Get a grip.
The terrorists have done nothing to this country compared to what this government has done. You are fearing the wrong people- turn off Faux News.
Posted by: tom | Jun 13, 2007 12:44:55 PM
A friend of mine got put on this list because she is associated with a peace group. There's something ironic about that. And not the funny kind of irony. I want my country back.
Posted by: John | Jun 13, 2007 12:56:41 PM
I am still awaiting the extradition of the organisers of Noraid who provided weapons and money to the IRA. Who then went on to murder just as many British civilians as those who died on 9/11.
Oh wait a minute that was good terrorism wasn't it?
Posted by: Chris | Jun 13, 2007 12:58:00 PM
This is the Dawn of the American Gulag...
First it starts with a 'list' that rapidly gets larger and larger with no controls...and the original purpose of the list becomes muted and then fades away as the true design becomes clear: as a tool for identifying and repressing potential dissidents to the increasingly authoritarian rule...America is, right now, not anything close to a democracy, nor a representative republic, it is a modern feudalistic state, fueled by corruption on virtually every side, and a drunk with power out-of-control vice-president and a stupid, stubborn, ignorant man who believes he has the Divine Right of Kings as president.
Posted by: Roger | Jun 13, 2007 1:00:07 PM
Who actually said it was only for terrorists? More likely the list also includes those persons who are thought to be a threat to the government.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | Jun 13, 2007 1:01:33 PM
The THREAT of an attack on "The Homeland" (how fascist does that sound) is causing far more damage to our country than an actual attack could.
We lost most of an entire city recently and life went on.
Posted by: Himself | Jun 13, 2007 1:03:19 PM
One thing to consider is: if our nation is truly in danger from foreign terrorists, why would our so called President want to allow more than 12 million illegal aliens some of which could be terrorists to remain here? If the danger truly existed our border would be closed so tight a mosquito couldn't get through.
Posted by: Patriot 2007 | Jun 13, 2007 1:11:43 PM
Remember that for every name on the list there are at least 10 other people with the same or similar name. Also, there is no office set up to review the list and delete the names of those who are killed, captured or cleared. The list can only grow until it chokes its own usefulness.
Posted by: Ted Bean | Jun 13, 2007 1:28:01 PM
Reminds me that FL CPS put a couple on the child abuser list, because of "kidding around" about their child.....who happened to actually be a pet racoon.
No amount of persuasion could get FL to take their names off the list.
Government seems to always find a way to demonstrate their stupidity.
Posted by: Rick McDaniel | Jun 13, 2007 1:31:24 PM
Half a million? Half? Hell, we had twice that many 40 years ago. They must mean that they got half a million snitches, I mean neighbors, watching you to make sure you're not a witch, or a terrorist.
Posted by: Nixon's Ghost | Jun 13, 2007 1:36:37 PM
This list is nothing more than such dangerous folks as vegans, Quakers, Democrats, Green party, anyone who ever signed a petition disagreeing with the RNC/Bush/Cheney, or who were picked by security screeners to get their bonus for each name contributed. Note to those afraid of terrorists: They're running the government. Duh!
Posted by: anon | Jun 13, 2007 1:41:04 PM
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