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FBI Terror Watch List 'Out of Control'

June 13, 2007 8:55 AM

Fbi_terror_watc_mn A terrorist watch list compiled by the FBI has apparently swelled to include more than half a million names.

Privacy and civil liberties advocates say the list is growing uncontrollably, threatening its usefulness in the war on terror.

The bureau says the number of names on its terrorist watch list is classified.

A portion of the FBI's unclassified 2008 budget request posted to the Department of Justice Web site, however, refers to "the entire watch list of 509,000 names," which is utilized by its Foreign Terrorist Tracking Task Force.

A spokesman for the interagency National Counterterrorism Center (NCTC), which maintains the government's list of all suspected terrorists with links to international organizations, said they had 465,000 names covering 350,000 individuals. Many names are different versions of the same identity -- "Usama bin Laden" and "Osama bin Laden" for the al Qaeda chief, for example.

In addition to the NCTC list, the FBI keeps a list of U.S. persons who are believed to be domestic terrorists -- abortion clinic bombers, for example, or firebombing environmental extremists, who have no known tie to an international terrorist group.

Combined, the NCTC and FBI compendia comprise the watch list used by federal security screening personnel on the lookout for terrorists.

While the NCTC has made no secret of its terrorist tally, the FBI has consistently declined to tell the public how many names are on its list. Because the number is classified, an FBI spokesman told the Blotter on ABCNews.com, he was unable to comment for this story.

"It grows seemingly without control or limitation," said ACLU senior legislative counsel Tim Sparapani of the terrorism watch list. Sparapani called the 509,000 figure "stunning."

"If we have 509,000 names on that list, the watch list is virtually useless," he told ABC News. "You'll be capturing innocent individuals with no connection to crime or terror."

U.S. lawmakers and their spouses have been detained because their names were on the watch list.
Reporters who have reviewed versions of the list found it included the names of former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein, at the time he was alive but in custody in Iraq; imprisoned al Qaeda plotter Zacarias Moussaoui; and 14 of the 19 Sept. 11, 2001 hijackers, all of whom perished in the attacks.

"There's a reason the FBI has a '10 Most Wanted' list, right? We need to focus the government's efforts on the greatest threats.  When the watch list grows to this level, it's useless as an anti-terror tool," Sparapani said.

Do you have a tip for Brian Ross and the Investigative Team?

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That sitting duck thing had to have been posted by some college student looking for a laugh, right? Let's put everyone on the list and then we will be really safe, right? Nobody is that stupid, not even Bush.

We are only sitting ducks if we sit there quacking like ducks

Posted by: Capt Fogg | Jun 13, 2007 1:52:10 PM

Becca, I feel sorry for you and people like you. Living in fear is no way to live. When all americans are on the watch list, will you feel better and sleep at night?

Posted by: stungib | Jun 13, 2007 2:01:28 PM

These people with "rocks and sticks" easily managed to destroy the two largest buildings in New York City and heavily damage the largest building in Washington D.C.

Some of you are even saying that losing a New Orleans-sized city every few years is an acceptable loss.

We have to rely on our Government to do everything it can to protect us no matter who is in office. Our enemies aren't attacking Bush, neo-cons, or Faux News...they are attacking western civilization in America, Britain, Spain, Russia, etc...

Posted by: zoraker | Jun 13, 2007 2:06:39 PM

On The Closer the other night, an FBI agent (trying to intimidate her, the fool) tells Brenda that the victim whose murder she's investigating was on their watch list. She dismissively says, "Cat Stevens is on the list," and ignores him.

Here's an idea for a TV reality show, "The 509,000 Most Wanted." Think what a long run that could have.

Posted by: Lionel | Jun 13, 2007 2:16:04 PM

Leave Becca alone, she's right, the list does need to be updated, that much is obvious, but for you others, this is just another opportunity to bash the Bush Administration. How many were on the list when the Clinton was in office? Oh, sorry, we didn't complain about that then, we were too busy concerned about his "other" activities.

Posted by: hillary | Jun 13, 2007 2:44:07 PM

DEAR AMERICANS
I READ MOST OF YOUR COMMENTS.THANK GOD YOU MOSTLY ARE SMART/COURAGE TO FIND THE TRUTH AND EXPERSS IT.I HAVE BEEN IN "US" FOR MORE THAN 8 YEARS. WIFE/KIDS MORE THAN 5 YEARS.ACCEPTED AS POLITICAL ASYLEE.
NOW APPARENTLY I'M IN ONE THESES LISTS!!!! BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN HOLDING MY "CHANGE OF STATUES" IN THE DEPT. OF HOMELAND....
DO YOU SEE THE CONTRADICTION!!!
ACCEPTED AS A POLITICAL ASYLEE. NOW I'M IN THE BAD PEOPLE LIST!!!
THE ONLY LOGICAL REASONS COMES TO MY MIND IS :a- I DID NOT CONVERT TO CHRISTIANITY B-MY FACE/RELIGION
NOW ME/FAMILY ARE PAYING FOR NEW DEMOCRACI.
I HAVE HAD THE LEAST CHANCE TO GET A GOOD JOB.
MY WIFE APPLIED SEVERAL TIMES IN DIFFERENT LOCATIONS TO GET A JOB. NO WAY!
MY KIDS AT THE SCHOOL HAD BEEN TEASED AND HARASSED BY SOME KIDS AND SOME STUPID TEACHERS IN SEVERAL OCCASIONS!
NO WAY TO GET CREDIT CARD.
NO WAY TO GET MORTGAGE AND BUY A HOUSE
IF THIS HAPPENS IN SOME OTHER PART OF THE WORLD EVRY BODY CRYS OUT IN HERE BUT WHAT ABOUT HERE!

Posted by: mardtanha | Jun 13, 2007 2:46:07 PM

@zoraker

In the 9/11 hijackings, the 'weapons' used to take over the plains were of all things, BOXCUTTERS. These people have virtually no sophistication. As a result, hundreds of thousands of terror plots were foiled before 9/11 occured. The problem is that people vastly overrate the threat. The fact that this country's security has been greatly improved is certainly a wonderful thing, but make no mistake, the blunders that actually led to 9/11 occuring are a once in a lifetime event. It is such a shame that this administration drives everyone to be so paranoid.

Posted by: Soggy | Jun 13, 2007 3:00:09 PM

My sister who is a quaker, is on the no fly list, seemingly because she is a quaker. She has never even demonstrated against the liars in government. I haven't tried to fly recently but for all I know I am on it too, for the same reason. The FBI cannot keep track of 500,000 people what the fools running the organization need to do is decide who is really a threat and deal with them intensively, watch them. But deciding people should be on the list, seemingly because.... without a reason is stupid beyond belief. When our fearful president says I don't think about Bin Laden much anymore I know he is not keeping an eye on the threats. He is just a talker. All hat and no cattle. I don't understand how faux actually manages to sell him as anything but asnake oil salesman.

Posted by: angela | Jun 13, 2007 3:14:01 PM

509,000??? That too funny!

Recently they couldn't stop one guy that flew all over the place and re entered from Canada after talking to border security (loosely translated term). I'm afraid to ask just how stupid can it get. I don't want to know.

Posted by: Tar and Feathers | Jun 13, 2007 3:28:19 PM

Making a list and not checking it twice even Santa Claus does that. Controling the population is a big job.

Posted by: sandra l | Jun 13, 2007 3:43:13 PM

Hey...does anyone know what happened to that airliner that up and vanished a year or two ago? Wern't we concerned terrorists could have gotten ahold of it?

Posted by: Ryan D | Jun 13, 2007 4:00:21 PM

What's the problem?? Everyone has voted for the Patriot Act. Everything in this article is in line with the Patriot Act which has been accepted by everyone!! Again, what seems to be the problem?? Get a life you all!!

Posted by: truthseeker | Jun 13, 2007 4:41:34 PM

Has everyone forgotten the infamous 'felon' list employed by Jeb Bush in the 2000 election? That was just about 100,000 names long, and this federal list is only 4x longer.

The terrorists hate us for our freedoms, so Bush is doing us a great service by removing all of them. Pre-emptive strike on the Constitution, and all that.

Posted by: Archie | Jun 13, 2007 4:45:33 PM

The terrorists hate us for our freedoms, so Bush is doing us a great service by removing all of them. Pre-emptive strike on the Constitution, and all that - indeed, the US should go further and chip and barcode all americans - imagine without the scan no one will be allowed to go anywhere, the terrorists won't go anywhere cause they won't be chipped! hey presto - america is safe
BUT - IS THE WORLD SAFE FROM AMERICA?

Posted by: Mike Bassey | Jun 13, 2007 5:08:12 PM

Is Ted Kennedy still on the no-fly list?

These lists are a sick joke.

Posted by: Tom3 | Jun 13, 2007 5:13:15 PM

It is scary that some people in here are actually supporting this fascist takeover of our rights.

You people make me sick.

Posted by: Tom3 | Jun 13, 2007 5:17:27 PM

Hey NewLeft,

By the way, everyone voted for the Patriot Act except for B. Boxer & T. Kennedy. Do a little math and you will realize that that's 2 out of 100.

Posted by: truthseeker | Jun 13, 2007 5:24:56 PM

That's it. After a decade in the US, I am outta here before they try to stop us leaving. And I taking ALL my cash and assetts with me. America is not the same country I knew.

Posted by: Frank | Jun 13, 2007 5:26:10 PM

Hey tom3,

We make you sick?????
Why don't you answer these questions:

- Did we pass the Patriot Act in '01?
- YES.

- Did anyone raise a word against the war in Iraq in '03?
- NO.

- Did we re-elect George W. Bush in '04?
- YES.

Again, I have only one question. Considering the answers to the questions above, WHAT SEEMS TO BE THE PROBLEM NOW??

Posted by: truthseeker | Jun 13, 2007 5:33:28 PM

That's quite an impressive list of dissidents and subversives. Not a bad start. Should have everyone on there in a few years!!

BTW, to those who've said they want to leave the US before it's too late ... I hope you already have your passports. You won't be able to leave without one. And if you're on the list already, it wouldn't help anyway.

Posted by: Stephen B Coulson | Jun 13, 2007 5:37:48 PM

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