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Is it really worth telling them anything? ABC news is infiltrated by the CIA. Heck if you give them anything, they will hunt you down. try alternative news sites they may be helpful.

Powell said it was the CIA that gave him the bad information. And who is it that used to head the CIA and still gets CIA daily briefings? George Herbert Walker Bush, the President's father! Just like Alan Dullas was fired by JFK but ended up on the Warren Commission, these guys who (formerly) head the CIA never seem to leave, and always cause havoc from behind the scenes.

Let's not forget that the Democrat's during the Clinton Admin were saying the same things Powell/Bush were saying to the U.N. Search your facts and you'll find that the liberal love child, Al Gore, condemned Iraq and Saddem during the election season leading up to Clinton going in office.

Endless investigating goes nowhere if there are not consequences due to the results of findings which is a big reason why the Democrats control of congresses approval ratings are so low

Lalalinda: Yes, Gore was condemning Saddam Hussein -- and rightfully so. No Democrat makes the argument that Saddam Hussein wasn't a bad person. He was a terrible person who murdered his own people. But Al Gore did not say that our country should go to war with Iraq because Iraq had weapons of mass destruction and he knew where they were hiding them and that not doing so would be an imminent threat to the security of our country, as Bush & Co. stated. There is a HUGE difference. Leaders worldwide were condemning Saddam Hussein for his human rights violations, and Al Gore was one of them.

Therefore, it is unequivocally untrue that the condemnation of Iraq that came from Clinton/Gore was of the same type as the condemnation that came from Bush/Cheney. The Clinton/Gore condemnation was of the "human rights violation" type. The condemnation from Bush/Cheney was of the "imminent threat, 9/11 connection, weapons of mass destruction" type. Both administrations criticized Saddam Hussein, but the context is totally different.

Hey Martinez. You want us to use an alternate source like say, FOX "news"? Would that be more legitimate for you.

Who gave Powell the bad intel???
You're kidding, right?

Mr. Richards maybe you didn't catch that Ken is a far left nut job why would he tune in to Fox?

It's a shame that Powell's bad information robbed the Republicans of a Presidential canidate that appealed to both conservatives AND Democrats. It seems that GWB has been short-sighted on a great many issues.

So...Farhan...when Clinton said Saddam had WMD's and sought more WMD's he and Al didn't consider that an imminent threat?...ahhh...OK.

According to the Dark Side, a documentary which can be viewed at PBS online, it was SCOOTER LIBBY who wrote the speech Powell gave to the UN. Powell was very concerned about the veracity of the info it contained. He was assured it was the truth.

"The dark side"? There you go Mr. Richards...I think the dark side is more along the lines of the "alternate source" our friend Ken was referring.

Give it a rest.
Clinton didn't go to war based on his personal opinions of the WMDs. BushCo did.

Come on.
Anybody with even room temperature IQ knew he was lying. Hans Blix publically called him on the fabrications a day or so later.

If Powell didn't know it was garbage, he was & is an idiot. I watched the performance. It was embarrassing to even watch.

Now lets pretend nobody knew and find out how that "mistaken intelligence" -if intelligence can be so misused - came to be. This is pathetic.

I get a kick watching repugs still claim justification for the biggest blunder in US history. That's Bush's legacy. Colin Powell now can't get away from this administration fast enough, but it's too late. If he had doubts about the veracity of the intel, he should have spoken up. The facts are, this administration rushed into war based on bad judgement by all involved. I'm sorry, but I don't think Clinton or Gore would have made that blunder, and in fact we know Clinton didn't. Bush did. The debate's over about whether this war is a mistake. The only question now is how we repair the damage done by this administration.

The democrats have nothing better to do than to talk about water under the bridge?

No wonder they accomplish nothing in government.

it's no suprise to read the neo-cons complaining about how the dems don't have anything better to do than go on meaningless "fishing" trips, or conduct political theatre. you neo-cons lost power because there was no oversight! you, like blind sheep, did everything cheney asked for. the reason why dems are doing so much oversight is because there was none the last 6 years! as rep. obey stated, we are cleaning up the mess you left! you neo-cons have lost sight of checks and balances, and you've lost the meaning of integrity and honesty. simply put, you guys are pathetic!

Biggest blunder in U.S. history Jason?
Bigger than say Lincoln assuming the top generals would side with the Union being wrong and leading to 80,000 deaths in the first few months of the civil war? Or FDR misreading of Japans intentions or Kennedy getting us involved in Vietnam. I think, Jason, I could go on listing bigger blunders for the next hour and a half. Maybe you might want to tone the hyperbole down a bit when talking to the adults.

John, do you know what a neo-con is or are you just going on the ad hominem attack due to the lack of a tangible argument?

John...Just to correct, what I see as an error in your blurb; the Democrats are going on endless and meaningless fishing trips in retaliation for the endless and meaningless fishing trips the Republicans went on during the Clinton admin. Obey and others are trying to borrow from the Gingrich playbook of the mid-1990s. It's like the bend and snap, it works every time.

John,

First, I am an adult, 46 years of age. You're right. This only makes the list of the top four or five blunders in US history, but probably the most egregious of my time. You, like a typical republican, must resort to personal invective because your defense of the indefensible makes you sound like an idiot. And Rick McDaniel talks about water under the bridge and democrats doing nothing. First, it's not water under the bridge. We're still there spending billions of dollars and getting people killed while ruining our reputation around the world. And what would you lke the dems to do? When the president is still a republican, and one who lacks common sense at that, there's only so much they can do. I would like to see them do more also, like end this stupid war and impeach those responsible.

Sorry, my last post was directed at Jay, not John. And Jay, you're use of big words and the derogatory manner in which you address fellow visitors to this post reinforce the perception of republicans as bullies and arrogrant fools. You seem very intelligent and demostrate a knowledge of history that surpasses the complete lack o information most neocons possess. But John's right, as I said, the only question now is how we cleanup the mess the republcians have made. What don't you agree with Jay? Wait, don't answer, just think up an inane slur.

Jason...you are correct. I was derogatory and unkind. I was wrong. I get frustrated with the polarizing rhetoric so pervasive on line and ironically, in my frustration, just add to it. I am not a Republican or a Democrat but your point is well taken.

Maybe the democrats should be focusing on Al Gore's 1992 speech. What a bunch of losers.

Exactly. That is my frustration Andy. It will not matter if 10 years from now there is overwhelming evidence that Iraq moved WMDs to Syria just before the 2003 invasion. Nor will it matter if History records that the U.N. inspectors seized and destroyed all of Saddams WMD's long before the invasion. Either way ABC will still be fabricating, or skewing, stories to bolster their agenda and ad revenues. And...There will be some rich Republican or Democrat either spinning this era in his/her parties favor or down playing it in hopes we all forget. And sadly we will forget. We always do. Excellent point you make Andy. You can view Gore, playing on our fears to get elected. He states, as fact, Saddam had ties to terrorist and WMD's on C-SPAN. This is not a Republican or Democrat issue. It is an us issue. you and me. We consistently let politicians escape their past. Worse we let a biased media dictate our views. Consider it historically: A million dead Americans in the Civil War. Half of a million dead American and a million and a half dead British soldiers between WWI and WWII. 40,000 Americans Dead in Korea, 58,000 U.S. GI's killed in Vietnam. The press says "Miserable Failure" but based on casualty figures could the headlines not be "Low casualty rate defines historically unprecedented victory". We believe what were told; to hell with the ruminations of the past

I don't know the rules I guess. Am I not allowed to post links? When I list the web address to the C-SPAN coverage of Gore telling us how dangerous Saddam and his WMD's were it gets edited out. The maaaannnss holding me down.

Bottom line is the dems had the same intel, and most senior dems in congress and the former admin held the same beliefs about Saddam's WMDs. They're on the record, so for them to blame just Bush's people is merely a hypocritical attempt to shift blame and put all the responsibility on Bush. They share the blame, and you can bet that if things went perfectly in Iraq they'd be standing proudly behind their votes to go in.

I'm all for oversight and I agree there hasn't been nearly enough of it during the Bush years, but these investigations are about politics and nothing more. It's old news and the only point is to bash an admin that's on its way out. What the heck, not like they've anything better to do.

Jason take a deep breath and relax a bit. Our reputation was gone a long time ago.

He got served 'Rice Pudding'..."Elementary,Dr. Watson!"

Sorry gang..Al Gore in a 2002 interview and speech warned the world of Saddam's quest for NBC weapons and hus plans to use them..he was very specific and adamant about it..please do the research before spouting off..thanks..Mike

Since when did everyone worry about what Al Gore was saying about Saddam back in 2002? Republicans by then were telling everyone that Al was "irrelevant". Gore WAS NOT PRESIDENT in 2002 so why the focus on it? It wasn't him with the classified info nor the decision making responsibility. President Cheyney was the one manipulating the intel and getting this war started up. Amazing- people chasing down Gore's comments in 2002 while the Bush Co neo-cons were telling lies faster than you can count.

Does anybody have a shovel? I need it to dig through this field of crap. On ABC and this blog. The fact of the matter is, regardless of how we got in this war, we are here and we need to be figuring a way to get the hell out and as quickly as possibly. All else is irrelevant at this point.

I believe, Jater, it is because people, I assume like you, regurgitate what you hear from people like Gore and others on the far left. Obviously that being the case...in the debate what is or was said by those who define the debate is very relevent.

It seems to me that our Government and our won citizens are hell bent on our own destruction. I beleive in oversite but to go in to these things wringing your hands just hoping you will find that someone in our Governemnt did wrong.....well it just doesnt seem right to me. And as far as what Farhan sais"

"Yes, Gore was condemning Saddam Hussein -- and rightfully so. No Democrat makes the argument that Saddam Hussein wasn't a bad person. He was a terrible person who murdered his own people."

"Leaders worldwide were condemning Saddam Hussein for his human rights violations, and Al Gore was one of them."

Why would we not go after and remove any such leader even without WMD's?

Seems to me that President Bush was just the first one with the guts enough to do it.

Dont get me wrong I am po'd at W right now and no I would not vite for him again. But its definately not his War plans that have me this way. I think he has done a good job at killing people who wish to kill us.

IMIGRATION!!!!!
STEM CELLS!!!!!

I believe the essence of the partisan problem here in th States is demonstrated quite accurately on this blog. Sadly, it seems that people find themselves incapable of siftingthrough the political rhetoric and propaganda and wind up believeing anything that the media wishes to say.

Over the past few years, this has come to mean that the President and intelligence gathering is infalliable, and cannot possibly be misinformed, but rather lie. Fox News has been discredited due to its more right leaning slant, while the more left stations such as CNN somehow contain all of their credibility.

The very problem with the oversight comittee, and I have watched a plethora of the hearings that Chairman Waxman has presided over, is that everything to Mr. Waxman and his band of insufferable lefties is merely black or white. The President and his administration are to blame for any problem with the Iraq war because they lied. It could not have been truly faulty intelligence, or perhaps common thought, that the Iraqis had WMDs. In fact, however, it was. This is evidenced by Clinton's forgotten lobbing of cruise missiles at Iraq, the numerous sanctions against the ocuntry, the barring of the UN weapons inspectors, and the vote in congress that gave overwhelming support to the war.

But oh no, this is Mr. Bush's war, as Hillary Clinton said so ignorantly at the last Democratic debate. How very wrong she is. The war is the nation's. The representatives that the people voted into office voted for the war in Iraq. The idea of a nuclear capable state possibly supporting terrorism was an unfathomable liability. The United States needed to act, and act rapidly in order to destablizie a possible threat to International Security.

People, however, seem to portray the United States government as the wrong doers. When a troop dies in Iraq, it is practically reported that he was executed by George W. Bush, not by insurgents who are sprouting up in a country to which we gave democracy. The American public seems to view soldiers as not having to fight, as if they are to get trained and do their excerises every month and then merely get their check in the mail. This is not so. A soldier is to put his life on the line in the name of freedom, somethign that we seem to enjoy to liberally in our nation. Noone recognizes that Islamist terrorists are determined to bring the whole world under Islamic law. Not all muslims, only the extremists who would seek to supplant freedom by inciting chaos and instability in the world through their terrible acts.

It is sad to see that the memory of the Twin Towers in the New York skyline has so quickly faded from the memories of those who domestically wish to supplant support of the administration. Regardless of what Waxman "discovers" through the course of his investigation into the causes of the War in Iraq, the country was a possible proliferater of nuclear technologies, and the nation had been known to be a state sponsor of terrorism, much like its neighbor Iran.

Protesting is the essence of patriotism, don't get me wrong. But when someone protests something out of absolute ignorance, much like the "Impeach Bush" group that plagues the eyes of Port Orange residents weekly, it is merely showing that the destabilization of the country has already begun. People who say that Bush has overseen the biggest blunder in the nation's history, or perhaps their own 46 year long life, I'd like you to recognize that Jimmy Carter failed to accomplish anything substantial in his presidential career; it was Lyndon B. Johnson that got us knee deep in Vietnam; and Bill Clinton, while yes he got a budget surplus, absolutely gutted military and military expenditures, thus accounting for our large deficit now. The death toll in the current conflict in Iraq, with coalition casualties only at 3,772 and Americans at 3,466, is not even near the casualty figures of Vietnam, Korea, or the two World Wars.

I wish that Americans would put down the partisan pitchforks and instead would look at the true facts, not those facts that are derived from Political Parties or either side of the partisan media.

outlaw both parties and start over

rebel

"According to the Dark Side, a documentary which can be viewed at PBS online, it was SCOOTER LIBBY who wrote the speech Powell gave to the UN." - ROTTEN

And we all know that Scooter Libby would never lie for his boss, and he would never be a fall guy for his boss, his reputation for telling the truth is impeccable, similar to the 9/11 Commission.

I am sorry there is no punchline for this joke.

I watched Powell's speech to the U.N. on C-SPAN, and after hearing him present his case, I lost any respect for the man. I can't believe he actually believed his own B.S. Moreover, I can't believe anybody else bought it.

I wanted to believe Powell was a man of integrity, but that one speech blew it for me.

Powell sold us out-he knew it and most of us knew it when he gave his presentation at the UN, with the other stooges sitting behind him. Defending GWB and the rest of the crowd over Iraq is like saying Wilhelm Keitel wasn't a yes-man. We have several imitations of him still staggering around our government.

The REAL CURVEBALL = = = .........Alan Greenspan : "Iraq War - was Really for Oil".....

America's elder statesman of Finance, Alan Greenspan, has shaken the : White House - By declaring that the Prime Motive for the War in Iraq was Oil ........

Nazi Bush ...... (Former head of the CIA) ........Fabricated Reports - Intentionally Delivered to the American people....In order to- Falsely and Fraudulently - Advocate a War

If they really need to get information from Condi Rice, may I suggest waterboarding.