Excuse me, but how does a lawsuit against a former priest who disagrees with the Legion "love Christ, serve the people and build the Church"?!

I know Paul Lennon very well and knew him when he was first ordained. A finer,more dedicated and intelligent lover of Christ and His Church would be hard to find, even among those Legionaries who chose to stay in the Legion! Paul's problem, like so many exlegionaries, is that being intelligent and felling the freedom that comes with loving Christ above all things, he started to look at the Legion and her founder with a critical eye. One can't doubt, question or be oneself in the Legion. If you do you are marginalized(sent to the Missions or some other apostolate where you are isolated from you fellow Legionaries).

Note that the lawsuit sues for proprietary materials which were leaked, undermining the mission of the Legion. They never dispute the contents of the documents, which have caused many Catholics to question the group. It's not that the actions of Regain involved slander or detraction (or even copyright infringement), only that revealing the truth hurts the Movement. The Legion now wants the names of those who criticise.

All major and many minor Catholic orders have their constitutions, norms, and all of their founder's writings available even on the internet. Even Mother Teresa's most private thoughts are there for all to see. That is what true saintliness is about. And it is certainly not about cloak and dagger and big money law suits.

"Throw a stick into a pack of dogs, and the one it hits will yelp." Guilt betrays itself: "...be sure your sin will find you out." (Numbers 32:23)

Having Been a Legionary for eight year I can say that I know the workings of this order. My experience was overwhemingly wholsome and positive and definately not sinister. The case for these aligations of sexual misconduct are that, aligations, their word against his word, and in the end they could be false or true. However, if anything can be judged from the self giving of this man, then I am willing to side on his word until further evidence can be produced. Furthermore, if the Legion wishes to keep their documents away from people who can misinterpret, especially from a group like regain that is nothing but misinformation, them that is up to them.

What a hornet's nest! I think this lawsuit represents the beginning of the end of the Legion as we know it. They are making a big mistake if this is their way of dealing with detractors. One of their most popular mottos is: 'Time is the Kingdom of Christ' How many hours and dollars will be thrown into this mission of punishing those who reveal and criticize the doctrine of MM & co.? I predict that things will go very badly for them, and that this recent turn of events will tip the scales for those who have been uncertain about what to believe about the LC/RC. It screams in black and white that loving Christ and serving the Church are secondary to self-preservation, just as a scared and threatened animal would behave.

The Church has become a haven for molestors, thieves, adulators, and idol worshippers! Where is Jesus whipping the temple clean?

Imagine if the Catholic Church hid the contents of the bible. Imagine if the Jesuits kept the spiritual exercises a secret. Imagine if Mother Theresa tried to mask the mission of her hospitals.

Why does the Legion hide and keep secret the contents of their 'spirituality'. Because it can only be 'properly understood' in a brain washing situation where they control how you understand this spirituality. If it's just thrown out there, the common man smells it out for what it is.... wrong!

Is the Legion making a huge mistake in dragging this out in the courts? I think so. They need to think this through instead of being so knee jerk. WHAT ARE THEY HIDING???? WHY ARE THEY SO SECRETIVE???? They do everything possible to be mysterious. I don't understand it. As strong-armed as the Legion appears to be in this battle, I wish they would be as strong in telling the Sellors of Minnesota that they are sorry for the way the whole Familia episode went.

"For no good tree bears bad fruit, nor again does a bad tree bear good fruit; 44 for each tree is known by its own fruit. For figs are not gathered from thorns, nor are grapes picked from a bramble bush."

How many vocations does the Legion get per year?

Just curious.

I have family members associated with LC. Unfortunately they do not see even the possibility that MM is guilty of anything. This act of blindness helps to keep loyal those who cannot/will not think for themselves regarding the appropriateness of certain LC actions. The LC can do no wrong by them. I think they are in for a hard fall back to reality. The LC is going to undergo huge changes in it's personality or just die from the big lie it is nurturing.

Never a Legionary nor a membner of their lay group, Regnum Christi, my knowledge of them came too late for me to counteract their effect on my son and his family.

Too late I learned they had infused themselves into our lives and built an invisible wall between them and the rest of the family.

I discovered ReGain and, only after, discovered the horrid truth of what had happened. Four years later, the Legionaries of Christ's want to know who I am as well as others who have posted anonymously and are williing to sue to get the information.

Sexual accusations, while serious, have nothing to do with their effect on me and people like me. It is the "capture" of members of my family to which I object and the lies they tell to sustain their hold on them.

Having stolen nothing, I have read the comments of others like myself as well as others who have managed to survive the ordeal of being asoociated with the legion. I have shared my story with others and my feelings about Regnum Christi and the Legionaries of Christ which, to them, I have no right to do.

The spirituality is kept secret until you are a member of the congregation. The reason for this (according to the LC) is that you need to be taught how to understand the correct "spirit" of the spirituality (Constitutions, Letter of the Founder etc).

So when you join the novitiate you really are in the dark about what you are signing up to.
Even novices are not trusted with all of the spirituality of the Legion, and as you progress in years of formation more is revealed to you.

But the presentation of the spirituality on the internet by nonlegionaries must be affecting the Legion's vocational drive. I'm sure it is putting a lot of people off joining - but at least they are making an informed choice.

This lawsuit has really blackened the copybook of the Legion of Christ. It does not square with the charity espoused by the Legion which I was taught when a member. The witholding of information about what being in the legion involves for prospective members by denying publication of the founder's letters and the constitutions, [which I was denied full access to even as a member]needs to be exposed for the manipulation that it represents. The lawsuit is not according to the heart & mind of Christ cf. Lk. 6 various verses
"...If someone takes your coat, let them have your shirt as well....Love your enemies and do good to them; lend and expect nothing back....when someone takes what is yours, do not ask for it back. ....Be merciful, just as God is merciful." It sickens me to think of the donations by poor people to the Legion being used for a cause like this. If the letters are quoted out of context exercise a right of reply, not the heavy hand of the law against a family member [as I was taught, all that have been in the Legion are supposed to be treated as still part of the Legion family by the Legion].

And isn't this another example of how the legion is a paralel church? - Their spirituality belongs to the greater patrimony of the catholic church, if the legion proudly flaunts its association with the catholic church (approved by the pope, we are a vatican organisation etc) then it must toe the line and stop being secretive.

Or just maybe the approved spirituality of the Legion is different from the spirituality they actually use?

I mean why would you keep it so secret? Just to prevent misinterpretation? I'm sure many of the vatican documents are misinterpreted, but they are still not secret.

It sounds a bit sinister to me.

The Legion is revealing their true colors with this Scientology approach of harassing and suing those who dare to speak out against them. Like the bullies that they are, they prefer lawsuits to public debate. They have to hide their weird cult rules and norms, or no one with half a brain would join or support them in any way.

Two years ago, I found the Regain website by accident in an internet search. One of our own had gotten himself into the LC outfit; we were confused. Nine years later, the Legion spat him out and he's still recovering from the cult-like effects. The information on Regain may look like "misinformation," as Kurtis claims, but we found it spot-on and significantly helpful. No wonder the Legion wants to shut down the site.

The catholics have enough to worry about when seen as the willing sycophants to the baptist republican revolution. They had to pay for their sexual abuse problems with money and they will pay for their misguided support for republicans as well. I am glad these people are so religious because when God smites them(or did he smote them already), then they will have a familiar reference point to recognize said retribution upon them. Who is to say that the 911 collapse of the Twin Towers was not the modern act of "kicking over the money changers tables" as Jesus might have done...

They are really contradicting themselves with this lawsuit. Did they not claim to be taking this as Christ did in silence. I would be willing to bet that 99% of their members do not have a clue that this is going on. The wrongly believe that the "saint" is offering this attack up in silence and patience. They would be confused to say the least if they really knew what was going on.

I and many of my family members have had dealings with the LC. I have a nephew who is to be ordained an LC priest in Rome this December. I have totally disassociated myself from this order due to its secretive and manipulative ways. I fear my family will suffer greatly when forced to accept the realization about MM. Many of my family members, including my parents, and brothers and sisters, are still in denial about the questionable methods of the LC. The spiritual blindness within this organization is monstrous, and it's power to corrupt is massive. I believe for the LC order to survive it must totally denounce MM and then restructure, or the order itself will dissolve, and the good people and priests within it will be absorbed into other religious orders.