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Gitmo Underwear Scandal; Who Smuggled the Speedos?
September 24, 2007 4:09 PM
The discovery that two Guantanamo detainees were wearing unauthorized underwear -- Under Armour briefs and a Speedo bathing suit -- has apparently triggered a full U.S. Navy investigation.
In a letter last month to a lawyer representing the two detainees, a U.S. Navy Commander warned, "We cannot tolerate contraband being surreptitiously brought into the camp" and said, "Such activities threaten the safety" of Guantanamo staff, detainees and visiting lawyers.
The lawyer who received the letter, Clive Stafford-Smith of London, wrote back, "I have never received such an extraordinary letter in my entire career."
"I cannot imagine who would want to give my client Speedos, or why," Stafford-Smith responded about his client, Shake Aamer. He "is hardly in a position to go swimming, since the only available water is the toilet in his cell. I presume that nobody thinks that Mr. Aamer wears Speedos while paddling in his privy."
Aamer, a Saudi Arabian, has been held at Guantanamo for more than five years, according to the Associated Press.
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The U.S. Navy Commander, whose name was redacted from copies of the letters provided to ABCNews.com by Stafford-Smith, said the investigation revealed "the briefs were not issued by JTF-Guantanamo personnel, nor did they enter the camp through regular mail."
Stafford-Smith rejected any implication that he or his colleagues had smuggled in the "contraband" underwear to their clients.
"Does someone seriously suggest," he asked, that he or his colleagues "have been stripping off to deliver underpants to our clients?"
A U.S. military spokesman, Army Lt. Col. Ed Bush, told the Associated Press earlier this month the investigation was no laughing matter.
"There is no room for error when working in a dangerous environment, and constant vigilance is of the utmost importance," Bush told the AP.
Some 340 men are being held at the prison on suspicion of terrorism or links to al Qaeda.
President Bush has indicated he wants the Guantanamo prison shut down, but to date there have been no details on how or when that might happen.
Stephen Grey is a freelance journalist who contributes to ABC News.
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September 24, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (48)
Gitmo Underwear Scandal Oh My God, close the place, let them all go, not an Underwear Scandal........
Posted by: Freddie | Sep 24, 2007 4:34:34 PM
Doesn't the U.S. Navy have better things to do with it's time?
Posted by: James | Sep 24, 2007 4:55:49 PM
Have we really got nothing better to investigate than Gitmo's underwear!!! Please ....... we have other vital issues that need our attention. This is definetly not one of them.
Posted by: Lisa | Sep 24, 2007 5:09:37 PM
Freddie,
While I appreciate your tongue-in-cheek satire, I can understand why the investigation is being pursued with all seriousness. Until they know how these got into a supposedly high security facility, the question nibbling at the back of some minds has to be: "What else has gotten in here that we don't know about?" If my troops were stationed there, not knowing the answer to these questions would be keeping me up at night.
Posted by: Walker Evans | Sep 24, 2007 5:41:47 PM
Who gives a rats %$& about underwear?
Posted by: Bill | Sep 24, 2007 5:45:59 PM
Just as soon as you introduced the waterboarding here comes the fashion statement.
Posted by: daddy | Sep 24, 2007 5:48:25 PM
well soak my drawers! what is this world coming to? it's difficult enough to justify holding these detainees for so long without evidence, without having to explain their taste in briefs. I thought they lived in cages you could see into.
Posted by: TonyFacade | Sep 24, 2007 6:21:40 PM
""The truth? You couldn't handle the truth.......""
Jack
Posted by: TonyFacade | Sep 24, 2007 6:22:50 PM
Why do we care?
Posted by: bobby stickers | Sep 24, 2007 6:25:26 PM
I wonder if the US Govt has questioned the brand and quality of Osama bin Laden's underwear?? Hmmmmm..I wonder if he prefers boxers over the modest Y front jockey shorts?? I can't imagine a man of Osama ever considering Speedos...
Posted by: lakeaustinman | Sep 24, 2007 6:45:50 PM
I think that a responsible journalist would mention the fact that the attorney has not been allowed to see his client in more than a year & could not have possibly recently smuggled him anything, which is included in the letter you quote other parts of.
The fact that Under Armour briefs are primarily marketed to US military personnel, many of whom have seen the prisoner a lot more recently than his lawyers, might also make it into this story if it were being written by a real journalist for a serious news outlet.
Clearly, as commenter Walker Evans notes above, it is a potentially serious matter that persons deemed so dangerous that all legal rights must be denied them are able to obtain contraband in an ultra-high security military prison; the fact that the US military chooses to approach this serious issue by making clearly frivilous accusations against attorneys who haven't seen the man in over a year, rather than investigating the personnel who see him every day & are highly likely to be Under Armour wearers (it isn't as if he were found wearing wingtips or tasseled loafers, after all) is again the sort of thing that might interest a real journalist working for a serious news outlet.
Posted by: buford | Sep 24, 2007 6:56:02 PM
We don't care about underwear. We DO care about unauthorized stuff getting into prisons - like knives, cyanide pills, etc. Don't tell me you don't get that, people? You don't have to be a fan (or foe) of Gitmo to understand this - it's just common sense. Duh!
Posted by: Mark In Irvine | Sep 24, 2007 8:19:11 PM
Who really cares?? Can you possibly do your job and get to the real news? Wow, underwear, big freaking deal!
Posted by: Getalife | Sep 24, 2007 9:24:49 PM
Given the history of military behavior at "Gitmo" and related sites, I would bet that some military interrogator gave the speedo as a manner of suggestion that the detainee SHOULD go for a swim in the toilet - and that the Under Armour briefs were meant as a threat upon the recipient's private parts. The Commander should have addressed his remarks to himself, to those under his command, and to the "intelligence" service(s) which have had contact with the detainees. I'll bet this letter simply exposes continuing abuse of "detainees" under military control.
Posted by: Jordan | Sep 24, 2007 9:25:06 PM
This investigation is an attempt to find who is ahem "supporting" the terrorists!
Posted by: donkey | Sep 24, 2007 10:29:58 PM
wow, it's amazing that of all the things that the military needs to get done, they choose to investigate the poor criminals' underwear, while on the other hand, they might have people smuggling drugs across the border. are they really that bored?
Posted by: Janet T. | Sep 24, 2007 10:35:21 PM
Well its better than them wearing white thongs, who knows who has worn them. These guys are dirtbags - the worst. The military are not going to bring Mother Teresa to Guantanamo. They are friendly with terrorists to say the least. For all I care they can rot in prison. No doubt some "friendly" visitor brought them in. As many people that want to "hug" these murders they probably have hundreds of suspects who have visited them.
Posted by: Deputy Dog | Sep 24, 2007 11:06:27 PM
Who gives a... I don't
Posted by: Robert R .Pugliese | Sep 24, 2007 11:14:13 PM
LOL, I'm going to take a wild guess here and say that the underwear was brought in by soldiers working there. For what reason, who knows? Maybe a "gift" to try to get someone to spill the beans on something. This really is about as dopey as the time I was called down to the office in Jr.HS, and grilled about why I tossed my lunch into the trash, and went to the restaurant nearby. When they called my mother to let her know I didn't eat the lunch that I brought, she just asked, "Don't you people have better things to do than worry about this kind of "stuff"? Apparently not. Sounds like the people in the Navy need a life too.
Posted by: Defaulty User | Sep 24, 2007 11:18:27 PM
Looks like Dept of Homeland Security will have to conduct a (you guessed it)
PANTY RAID!!!!
Posted by: booman | Sep 25, 2007 12:12:22 AM
This prison is a JOKE...it's more like a COUNTRY CLUB! Those "prisoners" are taken care of A LOT better than most AMERICANS!!!
Posted by: ENDcorruption | Sep 25, 2007 12:13:44 AM
buford,
A serious news outlet?
Ever wonder why they are there? Are they terrorists? Who says so? I know, I know, I support terrorists and all... bull crap. But you're wrong, and here's why: the 350-500 terrorists(?) that the USA has kept from being a free citizen of the earth, have not been proven to be and have not faced trial for terrorism. They are suspects and suspects alone. Being held on suspicion. Based on potential. With that said, where else can this methodology lead us to? How 'bout rape and murder?
Far too many people are being brainwashed into sycophantic behaviors that lead to the rise of tyranny states. History is pleat with examples. America is now one of them.
Posted by: Max-1 | Sep 25, 2007 2:07:06 AM
This is news? And how much of our tax paying dollars are being spent on this ridiculous investigation? These idgits have way better living conditions than my husband does in Iraq. This isn't news, this is garbarge.
Posted by: TamSam | Sep 25, 2007 2:17:00 AM
Jordan, you cannot be serious. These prisoners have it pretty darn good compared to some of our troops.
Posted by: TamSam | Sep 25, 2007 2:19:44 AM
Gee, the internets are great. They give people a chance to talk about underwear. Here's a career opportunity: sponsor an underwear blog. Glad you guys don't have anything important to do. Glad I don't either.
Posted by: frank H. Logan | Sep 25, 2007 4:14:52 AM
I spent 6 years in the U.S.Navy and I was investigated several times in those years for stupid things like disrespect and "tone" but "underwear" this is pure Navy, I was never issued speedos!
Posted by: jack | Sep 25, 2007 7:21:14 AM
Watch "Road to Guantanamo"
Posted by: Robert | Sep 25, 2007 7:54:10 AM
I do find it ironic that they are blaming the lawyer. An attorney friend of mine who worked with prisoner's on a regular basis told me that it was generally the guards who were the primary source for contraband.
What's true for the civilian prisons, is most likely true for Gitmo.
Posted by: NHS | Sep 25, 2007 9:16:51 AM
This item drew all too many comments by the would be comic "know nothings."
A few got the point, if any contraband got in, then perhaps other contraband got in and may still be getting in. Maybe if one of the terrorists blew up a few of his buddies with C2, the dummy comic commentators would understand. Actually they would not, they would say that "Bush did it."
Posted by: TheOldTrooper | Sep 25, 2007 11:08:32 AM
For those of you who have not fully read the letter, please do. Mr Stafford-Smith's, tongue in cheek response is quite amusing.
Otherwise, I agree with Buford's comments. A little more depth in reporting would be hugely appreciated. If I want a simple visceral response to shallow reporting, I can watch the TV news. Please do your job.
Posted by: BooMan | Sep 25, 2007 11:27:26 AM
I'm sure the person responsible here is the same person who ate Captain Queegs strawberries, and it deserves the same amount of attention as that earlier nefarious act. I belive that we should shut down all military operations until we find out who took those strawberries, and gave those militants Speedos.
Posted by: Bob | Sep 25, 2007 11:29:20 AM
I have a daughter and several nephews on active duty in the military. They have all done their stint in the Middle East. As a mother and aunt of those in harms way, I sure as hell want to know how contraband of any sort gets by the system. Yes, today it's only unauthorized underwear but tomorrow it could be explosives. It's the security system that's under scrutiny and, personally, I see the importance of that.
Posted by: aNavyMom | Sep 25, 2007 2:17:36 PM
Unauthorized underwear! What a scandal! We need a full investigation into the unauthorized underwear or else the terrorist win!
Posted by: Snarky Brat | Sep 25, 2007 3:58:55 PM
I wonder how many of the jokers who've replied here have any military or corrections experience? I don't like Guantanamo, but as long as it's operating,it's our duty to assure safety for jailers and prisoners alike. It's this simple:
A. Something got through the system–a major red flag. No system is unbreakable but this incident shows a weakness has been detected and exploited.
B. Any contraband entering a prison–even a penny or a nickel–assumes a value out of all proportion to the outside world. It may be hard for you people to understand, but people have been killed for a lot LESS than a pair of Speedos.
Got it now? 'Nuf said.
Posted by: Everyone's an Expert | Sep 25, 2007 6:17:06 PM
Wow.....How dumb are the Gitmo commanders? Smuggling underwear? Are they serious? THE GUARDS GAVE IT TO THEM! Geez louise we have to spell it out for these morons.
Posted by: Elias | Sep 25, 2007 6:41:52 PM
I guess if they've been getting special underwear, they're not as abused as others are claiming them to be, huh??
Posted by: How abused is this?? | Sep 25, 2007 7:21:25 PM
You people just know how to talk big about yourselves and the rest of the world is an experiment ground for you, these are humans who are caged in guantanamo, atleast i know for sure they did not commit rape, and child abuses of prisoners like Omer Khadr a 15 year old canadian warrior, if the western ways fits us then their ways must be right for them as well, we are the ones always poking our nose in other countries policies and their crap, we sent a barrage of cruise misseles in afghanistan while clinton was in charge and then we saw the retaliation in the shape of tanzania embassey bombings and the destruction of uss cole, and there is no limit for retaliation for humans, if you slap me i can break your teeth for it, its not necessary that i can only slap you to avenge what you did to me.
enemy combatant or whatever you might call them, in the english dictionary terrorist is someone who creates havoc and chaos to achieve personal goals not the goal of a whole nation (muslim), these people fight for a cause and believe, fight fair and results will be fair.
Posted by: Nordic Winter | Sep 25, 2007 8:31:19 PM
How about a chaplin, a Muslim chaplin? Where are allegiances? What other Muslims are in the area? Who gaines here? Propaganda? Brotherhood? It continues to be a chess match, at all levels. The bond transcends ALL other honor codes!
Posted by: Tom | Sep 25, 2007 9:18:54 PM
It wasen't suprise me if it was a lawyer, I am a Corrections Officer and we have caught more than one lawyer bringing in contraband.....including drugs!
Posted by: Bob | Sep 25, 2007 10:21:05 PM
Just when you think a joke can't get anymore tasteless, reality strikes again.
A prison guard concerned about the speedos of a prisoner is a gay porn film I have seen a dozen times.
Sounds like someone is making their fantasy come true.
jack
Posted by: jack jett | Sep 26, 2007 12:44:33 AM
Ok, it's obvious that someone broke the rules but who? It also means the prisoners might be able to get razor blades and other more dangerous items.
It just goes to show that GITMO prisons are also lax. People can can say anything they like but Speedos are big items to get past security.
Posted by: Ted Lee | Sep 28, 2007 10:39:17 PM
khadr and his clan are the first family of Al Qaeda! His dad started the terrorist group! and the whole clan has taken family holidays with Bin Laden.
Simply google "khadr terrorist family" and you'll see exactly what the vile islamoNazis khadr and others of his ilk are up to
Posted by: teri | Sep 29, 2007 2:54:23 PM
The real issue is: If this underwear is getting in, what about weapons? Could someone conceivably be shipping knifes to the prisoners at Gitmo?
Posted by: Dhamon | Oct 1, 2007 10:41:12 AM
if speedo's got in what else has?
Posted by: jeanie | Oct 1, 2007 6:05:02 PM
Some of the responses to this story only highlight why public opinion should have NOTHING to do with military policy. You're right...who cares what underwear they are wearing? But what about the weapon that may have come with it? What about the safety of our men and women? Will those of you who mock the military's concerns be mocking if/when one of our own is killed with that weapon? No, I'm sure that would somehow be the president's fault...sarcasm intended. It is very easy to sit in our comfy homes and pass judgement. Responsiblity for lives does not sit squarely on your shoulders.
Posted by: Renee | Oct 5, 2007 10:11:40 AM
SOME OF YOU ARE NOT THINKING
If ANYTHING got in then there is a problem.
A secure facility means nothing in, nothing out.
If you can smuggle in clothes you can smuggle in guns, drugs, cellphones, anything. You can also smuggle out anything
Think before you make idiotic comments about 'Oh my Lord, smuggled underwear'.
Posted by: CMM | Oct 5, 2007 11:01:17 AM
Well, seems to me that the problem lies
with bringing "contraband" into GITMO
in a "surreptitious" manner.
Hey, you want your friends to hjave speedos and swim trunks while in GITMO?
Don't want to run afoul of regulations?
Easy!!! Don't be "surreptitious" about it. Bring in the items in an above board way; tell them at the gate that you have "contraband" but you're telling them about it and therefore it won't be "surreptitious," ergo it isn't really "contraband," but rather declared item(s), making it/them perfectly ok!!
Posted by: George Salner | Oct 5, 2007 11:19:39 AM
Does not amaze me in the least that there are so many morons out there that cannot see what is so important here. How did they get in there? It is VERY important. Some of those people would like to kill a guard just for the heck of it. SO they can get twenty one virgins and as many pairs of Speedo as they want.
Posted by: soopergloo | Oct 9, 2007 10:55:10 AM
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