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Mrs. Ashcroft and the Hospital 'Tongue' Lashing

September 07, 2007 1:29 PM

Mrsashcroftan_mn The wife of former Attorney General John Ashcroft stuck her tongue out at two Bush administration officials as they left the hospital room of her seriously ill husband, according to a new account by the man who triggered that now infamous nighttime visit, former Assistant Attorney General Jack Goldsmith.

At age 41, the former University of Chicago law professor Goldsmith joined the Justice Department in the fall of 2003 as the head of the Office of Legal Counsel, a little-known but extremely powerful position as the chief advisor to the president and attorney general on the legality of their policies.

During his first weeks on the job, Goldsmith says he found the legal basis for the country's most important counterterrorism policies, including those for the CIA's interrogation techniques, to be deeply flawed and sloppily reasoned. Goldsmith says he inherited a legal mess from his predecessor.

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"My first reaction was I should quit because if I go down this path, it's going to cause enormous disruption to the administration's most important counterterrorism policies," Goldsmith said in an interview with ABC News' Brian Ross.

But Goldsmith stayed on, enduring several bitter disputes with the White House.

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"In these critical national security areas, I bent over backwards to try to find ways to allow the president to do what he wants to do, but I couldn't always do so," he told ABC News, saying he was considered "a pain" by some in the administration.

His biggest critic, Goldsmith says, was Vice President Dick Cheney's former lawyer and now chief of staff, David Addington, who, from behind the scenes, "designed all of the administration’s counterterrorism policies."

"He was angry at me once for a decision of mine, and he told me that if I ruled that way, 'the blood of the 100,000 people who die in the next attack would be on my hands,'" he said.

Goldsmith revealed to ABC News for the first time how many key opinions the Bush administration relied on had to be withdrawn or redone.

"More than two and less than 10. A lot of them are classified," Goldsmith revealed. "Basically every single opinion that I modified, the only reason I modified it was because I thought it was so far off the mark."

It was one of those decisions regarding the controversial Terrorism Surveillance Plan that led to that nighttime meeting in then-Attorney General Ashcroft's hospital room. Then-White House counsel Alberto Gonzales and chief of staff Andrew Card had rushed to the bedside of Ashcroft in an attempt to get him to overrule Goldsmith's decision, which had been supported by the Acting Attorney General James Comey.

"It was the most extraordinary thing," Goldsmith recounted. "The attorney general, he looked terrible. He kind of lifted himself off the bed, and he lifted his chest up and kind of looked into his face, and he basically explained to them in a very clear and articulate way. He said he didn't appreciate the visit under these circumstances. And then he said, that, in any event, Jim Comey was the acting attorney general. And then he collapsed back into the bed."

But it was of course Ashcroft's wife Janet who put the visitors from the White House in their place, Goldsmith said, and got in the last word, with her "tongue" lashing.

Goldsmith echoed her sentiments. "I certainly did not think it was appropriate for them to be there under the circumstances. He was obviously incapacitated and they knew it," he said.

"The hospital scene really encapsulates the twin pressures that the administration was under: this enormous pressure to stop another attack and this enormous fear about violating criminal laws as they were pushing and being aggressive to stop another attack," Goldsmith explained.

Nine months and several bitter disputes with the White House later, Goldsmith resigned.

"It was the fights with the White House that, that I believe were unprecedented," Goldsmith said. "I did not want to say in the government."

Goldsmith now teaches at Harvard Law School. His new book, "The Terror Presidency," will be released this week.

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September 7, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (13)

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Typo?: "I did not want to s[t]ay in the government."

I wonder how many Bush staffers are contemplating their role in an unethical and sleezy administration.

Posted by: Norm! | Sep 7, 2007 2:17:24 PM

Is John Ashcroft seriously ill? I had not heard this. Thank you.

Posted by: Michael Royce | Sep 7, 2007 3:34:00 PM

Thank you Goldsmith; for your service to all Americans, and for standup for the principal of the rule of law.

Posted by: chris | Sep 8, 2007 12:17:52 AM

Time to WAKE UP and SMELL the COFFEE AMERICA! This states it ALL!

Posted by: Adams684 | Sep 8, 2007 2:07:31 PM

Like we care about the enormous pressure to stop another attack when the enormouse pressure comes from the ruse these losers created to use fear to keep you in line for their infinite war. Pay up chumps...

Posted by: daddy | Sep 10, 2007 10:23:44 AM

Republicans are a sick breed.

Posted by: bobby stickers | Sep 10, 2007 10:33:39 AM

Mr. Goldsmith, after relentless opposition from the Vice President's senior aide, Mr. Addington, resigned and said nothing for two years. All the details-- of spying without judicial oversight, of advocating interrogation methods that the rest of the world calls torture, of doing an end run around an acting Attorney General by going to the intensive care bed of the Attorney General-- were known well before Mr. Goldsmith appeared, his book promotion in hand. If Mr. Goldsmith had so fervently believed in a national conversation about matters of justice and personal liberties and security, it is too bad that he could not have summoned courage to talk to journalists at the time when something could be done to remedy the wrongs that Addington, Woo, Gonzales and others were inflicting on our society. To come now, on a book tour, to say how deeply he felt about these matters strikes me as simply self-serving.

Posted by: Tom Hester | Sep 11, 2007 12:22:50 AM

Better than the Clintons, they just murder there opponents!

Posted by: Matt | Sep 11, 2007 7:58:11 AM

To TOM HESTER, Pouring truth into a dumbed down society of bush cheeny sycophants is dangerous but uplifting work and I commend you on it. Given that the MAINSCREAM press got taken and will not admit it, the military got shimmed and can't believe it, the republicans got snookered and have pursed lips and furtive glances to admonish you with, all I can say is I think I might see you someday in that FENCED PEN IN KANSAS that the underground executive branch has already built just waiting for Bush to call you a terror suspect...Case Closed...NEXT

Posted by: daddy | Sep 11, 2007 9:43:09 AM

Between the bush child and Mrs.Ashcroft, this tongue sticking out thing is getting very creepy in light of the toe tapping republicans we see emerging. Personally, I am frightened of them and would warn you to watch where your child plays.

Posted by: daddyblue | Sep 12, 2007 12:39:34 PM

Response to Bobby Stickers...
Agreed, and well put! But hey, remember the Dixie Chicks have also received mass accolades as of late including industry awards for their "I told you so" song on the war. If you remember back several years they recanted and apologized for their statements when it really mattered. (Obviously there fan club doesn’t look to kindly upon freedom of thought or religion for that matter). To retract and then gloat... even worse in my book. But whatever gets the message out there is o.k. with me.

Posted by: Brewer Douglas II | Sep 17, 2007 11:33:00 AM

I meant tom not Bobby above... sorry

Posted by: Brewer Douglas II | Sep 17, 2007 11:34:36 AM

Kudos Jack Goldsmith. Having been thru pressure of upper levels telling one to drop the subject or go along with what is clear and against the law. Your courage under fire is admirable. We are a nation of laws. But to run like chicken little screaming the sky is falling. When it may have to some extent. freedom and the laws are who we are. Thank you for doing the right thing ..

Posted by: Ana | Sep 20, 2007 12:04:11 AM

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