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Nixon on Thompson: 'Dumb' but 'Friendly'
October 09, 2007 9:06 AM
Fred Thompson has made much of his role 30 years ago as a young Senate lawyer helping to lead the investigation of the Watergate scandal and President Richard Nixon.
But a much different, less valiant picture of Thompson emerges from listening to the White House audiotapes made at the time, as President Nixon plotted strategy with his aides in the Oval Office.
Thompson's job on the Watergate committee was to lead the Republican side of the investigation. He was appointed by his mentor, Sen. Howard Baker of Tennessee, who is now co-chair of Thompson's 2008 presidential bid.
Photos: Nixon on Tape: Thompson 'Dumb as Hell'
When Nixon's aide H.R. Haldeman told Nixon of Thompson's appointment, Nixon was less than impressed.
"Baker has appointed Fred Thompson as minority counsel," Haldeman is heard saying on one tape.
"Oh sh--, that kid," Nixon responds.
"I guess so," Haldeman replies.
Nixon worried that Thompson's Democratic counterpart, Sam Dash, would outsmart Thompson.
"Well, Dash is too smart for that kid," Nixon says on another tape from March 16, 1973. The existence of the tapes were publicly revealed by a question from Thompson at a Watergate hearing and led to the president's resignation. They are preserved at the National Archives in College Park, Md.
"Sure. Runs circles around him," agrees an aide, John Dean.
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As the investigation picked up speed, Nixon grew increasingly concerned about whether Thompson could stand up to the Democrats.
In this May 1973 recording, he shared his concern with then-chief of staff Alexander Haig.
"He's talking to Fred Thompson. I said you're not --," Haig begins.
"Oh sh--, he's dumb as hell. Fred Thompson," Nixon interjects. "Who is he? He won't say anything."
In another conversation some weeks later, Nixon and his advisers were still describing Thompson as not very smart but at least beginning to play ball.
"Our approach is now, we've got a pretty good rapport with Fred Thompson. He came through fine for us this morning," White House counsel Fred Buzhardt says on a tape from June 6.
"He isn't very smart, is he?" Nixon asks.
"Not extremely so, but --," Buzhardt says, interrupted by the president.
"But he's friendly," Nixon says.
"But he's, he's friendly," Buzhardt echoes.
"Good."
A few days later, White House aides are heard saying Thompson will be even more helpful than his boss, Sen. Baker, and that Thompson agreed to secretly help undercut the credibility of White House whistleblower John Dean.
"They've finally got [Dean] under oath," Buzhardt says on a tape from June 11. "Uh, Thompson will work with us. So, good."
"Does he realize that Dean has some problems?" Nixon asks.
"Oh, yes sir," Buhardt responds. "Quite a few...He is willing to work with us; he is also now willing to work with us on shifting some focus to the Democrats. He's finally made up his mind; he's got to start looking at some of their stuff."
Later in the tape, Buzhardt says, "[Thompson is] willing to go, you know, pretty much the distance now. And he said he realized his responsibility was going to have to be as a Republican increasingly."
In his memoir of the Watergate era, Thompson admits to secretly alerting the White House to key evidence as it was discovered by congressional investigators.
Former Watergate committee investigator Scott Armstrong told ABC News that Thompson's cooperation with the White House undermined the investigation.
"It was the equivalent of two prosecutors knowing about something and one of them going behind the scenes and telling the person being accused what the witnesses were saying about him," Armstrong said.
Two months after Buzhardt's comments, Nixon resigned. Thompson would later take credit for helping to reveal the secret White House taping system that led to Nixon's downfall.
Do you have a tip for Brian Ross and the Investigative Team?
October 9, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (94)
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I guess it boils down to who would you rather have over for dinner -- Nixon or Thompson?
Posted by: KYJurisDoctor | Oct 9, 2007 11:44:57 AM
The good news for Thompson is that being dumb was not an obstacle for the current President.
Posted by: Bushisabozo | Oct 9, 2007 11:50:40 AM
Comments from fourty years ago? Brian, wouldm't it be interesting to have tapes about you at that age? See what people realy thought?
Posted by: Robert Eastham | Oct 9, 2007 11:51:23 AM
You can smell the republican desperation. Projecting their delusions on the empty suit of Thompson the Christian Taliban zealots are DESPERATE and imigaine him to be Reaganesque.
Time to pay the piper. There is a price to pay when you hitch your failing cronyism and anti-american authoritarianism to Bush's wagon.
Good riddance.
Posted by: Your Conscience | Oct 9, 2007 11:58:19 AM
We survived 8 years of Ron and George the second, Thompson should be perfect.The United States now will have proof that the office President is really not necessary, congress can screw things up without any help from the Whitehouse.
Posted by: warenbaker | Oct 9, 2007 12:04:24 PM
Your timeline seems a little off. If the last comments you quote were made by Buzhardt in June 1973 (which is what your story indicates), then it was more than a year before Nixon resigned, which was in August 1974.
Posted by: Patrick Olsen | Oct 9, 2007 12:06:23 PM
Nixon never had any dealings with GWB. If so, he would have thought Fred Thompson was a genius!
Posted by: Ron | Oct 9, 2007 12:41:44 PM
the guy's the perfect choice
Posted by: swede | Oct 9, 2007 12:43:40 PM
To say that Thompson is "dumb as hell" in no way distinguishes him from the current commander-in-chief and also suggests he would make a good nominee for the party.
Posted by: Tim | Oct 9, 2007 12:44:33 PM
Yes, Nixon would have found most of us dumb, even the dumb ones.
Posted by: jasper | Oct 9, 2007 12:45:12 PM
It seems the press is doing everything it can to shoe string Senator Thompson's presidential campaign. It is surprising the press would use Nixon quotes for charactor reference. In the 70's most people thought Nixon was like a used car salesman with posters saying "would you buy a used car from this man?"
Posted by: ken | Oct 9, 2007 12:52:23 PM
I'm glad to see someone is onto this story. But, you missed a VERY important part of this story. Thompson has for years gotten away with claiming the mantle of the one who exposed the taping system when he asked the question about it in open session when in actuality he was busy WARNING the Nixon White House ABOUT the discovery of the taping system behind the back of the committee. As you have pointed out in your story, Thompson violated the confidentiality of the committee investigation and acted as a mole for the White House.
Ironically, he was given the honor by his mentor, Sen. Howard Baker, of asking the question about the tape system - discovered during private session by one of the investigators on the team - in open hearing. He and Baker both realized that it would reflect well on Thompson and the minority if he asked this question.
It's simply mind boggling that he now gets away with the claim that it was he, Thompson, that was responsible for revealing the taping system when in actuallity he was the one who tipped the White House off about it. And, it's equally mind boggling that you have missed what is an even more important aspect of this story - not only did Thompson violate the confidentiallity of the investigation but he has lied for years that he was the one responsible for nailing Nixon by revealing the taping system.
Here, let me make this easy for you. Imagine that Al Gore has just mentioned in an interview that he was instruemental in passing legislation that helped launch the internet. Now, imagine making that into a front page story about Gore making a dishonest claimi to have invented the internet. Only in the case of Thompson, there IS a false claim and there IS a lie that should be a front page story.
Sorry I don't have time to give you some links for research but it should be easy to find the documentation for this.
Posted by: Johnbo | Oct 9, 2007 12:52:50 PM
People need to remember who Nixon was. I viewed him as arrogant, condescending, and bigoted. I don't think that it's surprising that he had a low opinion of everyone else around him.
Posted by: Getalife | Oct 9, 2007 1:03:36 PM
Typical Liberal Media, put down the Republican candidates and prop up the Democratics (especially Queen Hillary). Where is the "real" news article about the investigation into Henry Shu and when did/where Hillary turn that dirty money back into? What would Nixon call Hillary Clinton?
Posted by: Ray | Oct 9, 2007 1:04:37 PM
Isn't this story several months old?
Posted by: squeenter squillo | Oct 9, 2007 1:09:34 PM
Only bad actors (reagan) make good presidents. Good actors (thompson-law and order/hunt for red october) make bad presidents.
Posted by: sonya | Oct 9, 2007 1:12:48 PM
You are always attacking those who are not liberal. Those who are liberal and live in liberal ways that are of your persuasion seem to be spared the dug up bull that quickly shoots them down as you report. There are many who are getting their news elsewhere because you cannot willingly simply report the news.
Yes you buy your ink by the train car load and that is your advanage, but the public can sure let the flim flam you write go unheard of. It is sad that we the public can't rely on honest news. But when you put a figure up on your screen to tell the public what has happened, if he is not liberal you have to report on him or her then put him down so as to discredit. Why? Why can't you be balanced in your reporting? I don't expect an answer but that is how I feel about ABC reporting.
Posted by: Ed Seegmiller | Oct 9, 2007 1:25:25 PM
Baker isn't a dumb Senator, he just plays one on t.v. and 'da movees.' say what you will about Tricky Dick -- he makes the entire field of current GrOPers seem like the petulant corporate whore boyz they iz -- too dumb to count even a hanging chad. thank you, the Ghost of Dick Nixon. at least you know a pack of ghouls when you see 'em! ;)
Posted by: Damned Liberal | Oct 9, 2007 1:29:52 PM
Thompson was a US Senator in 2002, we were at war in Afghanistan, getting ready to start another war with Iraq, and Thompson thought the best use of his time was to quit the Senate to follow his minimalist acting career on Law & Order? Why should we believe he is really interested in public affairs now?
Posted by: D | Oct 9, 2007 1:42:55 PM
"And he said he realized his responsibility was going to have to be as a Republican increasingly."
Says it all, doesn't it?
Posted by: Kyle Johnson | Oct 9, 2007 1:51:35 PM
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