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Harsh Treatment for Marines Caught Using Illicit Drugs
November 30, 2007 9:53 AM
Editor's Note from Brian Ross: In the third year of a joint project with the nonprofit Carnegie Corporation, six leading graduate school journalism students were again selected to spend the summer working with the ABC News investigative unit.
This year's project involved an examination of whether, as happened in the wake of the Vietnam War, Iraqi war veterans were turning to drugs as a result of the trauma and pain of war.
The U.S. military maintains the percentage of soldiers abusing drugs is extremely small and has not increased as a result of Iraq.
The students' assignment was to get the unofficial side of the story from soldiers, young men of their own generation.
Today's report is the fifth in a series of five reports.
U.S. Marines caught using illegal drugs often face harsh punishment from the military, according to counselors, veterans' advocates and military defense attorneys. Marines have been kicked out of the service with loss of benefits, or even thrown in jail despite their claim that they turned to drugs to cope with their battlefield experiences in Iraq.
While the Marine Corps does provide substance abuse and counseling, experts say rehabilitation often loses out to punishment and discipline.
November 30, 2007 | Permalink | User Comments (12)
Why don't they just legalize drugs and then there wouldn't be a problem?
Posted by: kenny | Dec 3, 2007 8:48:59 PM
Uhhhhhh.....why don't they just illegalize stupidity in the military then the problem would be addressed.
Posted by: GirlOnTheRun | Dec 4, 2007 12:36:14 PM
Kenny, would you want a pilot or a jet fighter mechanic stoned on the job. Can you say "wreck". Can you say "injury or death". Yes, I knew you could. That is why Mr. Rogers says that military members smoking drugs is bad.
Posted by: Smarter than Kenny | Dec 4, 2007 1:00:49 PM
Knee jerk reaction number 17..
((would you want a pilot or a jet fighter mechanic stoned on the job. Can you say "wreck".))
Why does it follow that they would be stoned on the job?
they all go to the pub in the evening after work and have a few drinks.. doesn't affect their performance the next day. Neither would marijuana.
Posted by: froggy | Dec 4, 2007 6:12:43 PM
why are you people so mean i mean the soldiers are going through alot they have to find a way to entertain themselves i know its not a good idea but we all have to support them hell know what they are going through for us so before you judge get to know one of them
Posted by: brenda | Dec 4, 2007 6:37:44 PM
the soldiers should not use drugs as they are illegal to use in the military but then again I can see why they might turn to them if they've been in combat and are all messed up mentally. I wouldn't judge them as I've never been in their place, thank God! I've been in the military and in a war-zone but not in combat.
Posted by: Seabee | Dec 5, 2007 7:57:41 PM
Drugs are a choice. Suicide is a choice. Neither are condoned in the Marines. They're bad for the Marine, bad for the unit, bad for their families... There is NO good side. Entertainment? Recreation? Most go to the gym, play sports, go on long weekend trips with their families or friends. Even the ones who are hurting. Depressed? Nightmares? Get help. Do it! Do it BEFORE the substance abuse and/or misconduct only make it worse. You'd want your Marines/buddies/family members to do it. Not saying it's that easy to do, but it's just that important. Semper Fi.
Posted by: Marine | Dec 5, 2007 9:52:18 PM
I'm a x Marine from the early 70's and they were always very strict about drug use. My buddy got 1 year in the brig for possesion of a joint! So it is nothing new at all
Posted by: Joe | Dec 5, 2007 11:20:38 PM
Drugs has been the way of this country for years..through VietNam they allowed the taking of morphine to survive..they allowed liquor and cigarettes..just talk more to the VietNam vets..my husband spent three tours in VietNam and still he made it home only to be killed later..ask questions and see what happens when you ask to many...The lie is..drugs do not solve the issue and hand but offers existance to live within..the military knows this..age makes a big differance in the acceptance or non-acceptance..My kids tell me this is the world..and the adults are the suppliers throough kids..So as a parent when I listen to this, it just intensifies the fact that the drugs ae money making profit in this nation and will continue if it pays more than a decent living...The fight is non-ending, for these men and women..What's the score on women vs men taking drugs to maintain..it is an intollerable act but it is becoming more prevalent in society so why not the military..look what they are facing..and the extremes to which the government has placed them..the weak will inevitably suffer and the stronger ones will prosper..what is fair or just in this situation for these men..Why are we so negligent as we were in VietNam..does someone's coat get dirty..for I know of know humane being above God..unless the men upstairs feel they are without sin then cast these men to the stakes and burn them..Because, what they do is not right but there are steps to help them..we are so intelligent..then put the mouth into prevention and intervention..take that $62 billion dollars to fight meth and help our Kids! We owe them that..or is it easier for our government to not let them come back!!!!!? Apachecheynne
Posted by: Apachecheynne | Dec 7, 2007 4:49:02 PM
Military service is supposed to be a very honorable profession and many people join with honorable intentions. Some of those people may now unjustly feel a great deal of guilt due to the dishonorable acts they are forced to commit daily by their supreme commander G.W. Bush. According to the story, some Marines get kicked out for drug use. I would wager that some would be willing to accept a loss of benefits and possibly some jail time as preferable to spending years in Iraq hell. I have heard of military research into drugs that will enable soldiers to go days without sleeping, presumably so they can work, fight, and/or stand watch for longer periods of time. If the military themselves are willing to give soldiers drugs that they don't truly need that will quite possibly have harmful side effects for them, who are they to say the soldiers shouldn't do unnecessary drugs for their own relief?
Posted by: Ponder This | Dec 9, 2007 1:22:49 PM
I'm not condoning drug use in the military, but I do understand why soldiers would turn to it and that current military policies are creating the feelings of stress and desperation that lead to drug use. Here's why: As part of a college course assignment I once interviewed an army recruiter and asked him "What's the best advice you can give to potential recruit?" I expected to hear something about of staying in shape, becoming a leader, or going to college. His answer? "Stay out of jail and don't do drugs." That's common sense. Since then, the military has lowered their standards and allowed people with criminal histories to join. How stressed would you feel sleeping at night with armed criminals?
Posted by: Ponder This | Dec 9, 2007 1:23:03 PM
i think that it is ok for them to do drugs but i think that they should keep it to when they are not out controling machinery. as long as they do it on there down time i dont know what the problem is
Posted by: heather | Dec 10, 2007 12:52:10 PM
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