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New Taliban Leader: More Dangerous Than Bin Laden?
January 09, 2008 1:31 PM
The newly appointed leader of the Taliban in Pakistan is being called more dangerous than Osama bin Laden by analysts there. His movement was created last month when 26 Pakistani militant groups joined forces to fight for an Islamic regime there, tribal sources say.
Baitullah Mehsud, also known as the emir of South Waziristan, is described by Pakistani authorities as a brutal but able leader who commands thousands of followers. Pakistani President Pervez Musharraf blames him for the assassination of former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto, as well as a spate of recent attacks here that have left more than 400 dead. NATO authorities in Afghanistan have offered a $50,000 reward for his capture.
"I think he is now a much bigger threat than bin Laden and al Zawahri in this part of the world," said ABC News consultant Rahimullah Yusufzai.
"He seems to have a large reservoir of suicide bombers, and he is a bigger threat in this region, in Pakistan and certain border provinces of Afghanistan than even the al Qaeda leadership," said Yusufzai.
Like Mullah Omar, who leads the Afghan Taliban, Mehsud refuses to be photographed. He lives on the run, according to Pakistani authorities who are tracking him, and never sleeps in the same bed twice.
"We know he is training suicide bombers. We know he is indoctrinating suicide bombers," Musharraf told foreign journalists last week.
Mehsud was appointed the supreme leader of the newly created Taliban Movement of Pakistan, dedicated to creating an Islamic regime there, according to tribal sources. Delegates from 26 militant groups held a secret meeting last month in the volatile region of South Waziristan where the CIA believes al Qaeda is regrouping. The group's first priority will be to fight the Pakistani Army in the northern Swat Valley and in Waziristan, tribal sources say.
"This group has decided they will collectively respond to any military operation by Pakistani authorities," said Yusufzai. Ultimately, they want to establish an Islamic regime in Pakistan that would emulate the former Taliban government in neighboring Afghanistan.
Western officials in Pakistan are concerned by how sophisticated Pakistan's militants have become in recent months. They have successfully targeted Pakistani army bases, a special forces compound and buses carrying employees of the country's intelligence services. Western diplomats fear that a unified Taliban will present yet another potent threat to the already fragile security situation there.
"It's not just that they are carrying out regular attacks," says a Western official. "It is that they are able to target the Pakistan military so effectively."
Photo courtesy of BBC News.
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January 9, 2008 | Permalink | User Comments (41)
Meshud and his followers are extremely dangerous. they won't stop targeting Pakistan's govt. until the country is split up and they control the Waziristans and tribal areas - hopfully NATO and coaltition forces will be given broader authority to target these high value targets...
Posted by: Alex | Jan 9, 2008 1:51:07 PM
Nobody in this world is more dangerous than BUSH.
Posted by: Joe MUrphy | Jan 9, 2008 1:52:21 PM
Wait a minute. I thought that none of these people are a danger or a threat to anyone! Bill Clinton didn't seem to think so, and Bush couldn't find the bathroom, let alone Bin Laden.
Posted by: Mitch | Jan 9, 2008 4:30:40 PM
Oh, what a tangled web they weave....
Posted by: ToungeTyed | Jan 9, 2008 5:57:01 PM
You can say BUSH is the most dangerous man in the world but he leaves office in a yr and was voted in twice. I always find it funny that BUSH is called stupid yet he is resposible for all the crap as well. So what is he clever and stupid.
Posted by: matthew | Jan 9, 2008 7:47:45 PM
You think Bush is dangerous? How naieve.
Posted by: Jangleling | Jan 9, 2008 10:54:09 PM
Bin Laden does not exist.
Posted by: Brian birchall, rancher | Jan 10, 2008 4:48:14 AM
Bet you a dollar to a doughnut that Binn Laden is in Mecca living the life of a king!I mean--the pope is in Rome, why shouldn't the pope of the terrorist be in Mecca? Non Muslims are not allowed in the city. And another thing, if this is a highly organized network, with world wide control, as they say, you cant tell me that the government doesn't know where the headquarters are! CAVE MY FOOT!!!
Posted by: mike | Jan 10, 2008 9:35:01 AM
MUrphy, you know nothing of this part of the world, obviously, and that's too bad. Next year, when a democrat is in office, the threat of a region-wide fundamentalist theocracy across the "Stans" will still be the big threat that it is right now...and your candidate knows this better than you do...
Posted by: Jazz | Jan 10, 2008 10:16:45 AM
Unfortunately, Pakistan is only reaping what it sowed between 1977 and 1988, when instead of LEARNING from the split-off of Bangladesh, the military (headed by a 1971 war-criminal) decided to turn to ultra-religiosity and seeded militant cadres.
Posted by: Sadhasiv | Jan 10, 2008 10:23:01 AM
Bush's ability to dismantle America depends on the existence of his "great religion of peace". Keeping the idiot population focused on Bin Laden takes their mind away from Bush's assault on our Constitution.
Posted by: Richard | Jan 10, 2008 10:54:44 AM
The one thing the internet/media does is tout these people with phrases such as 'more dangerous than bin laden.. this is honey to their egos - instead of saying things like this, they should say: is trying to overthrow bin laden. get a good thing going to possibly eliminate BOTH of them. don't stroke their egos in national media - use a different method. who knows, it might work...
Posted by: frostyredbird | Jan 10, 2008 11:52:14 AM
Joe MUrphy,
Nobody is more dangerous than Bush? Not likely,
Posted by: Jim | Jan 10, 2008 12:18:03 PM
Osama is dead and buried. He lives only in theory.
Posted by: Nick | Jan 10, 2008 12:48:55 PM
Do NOT forget about Mullah Omar.
It is said that he donned the (actual) Cloak of (the false prophet) Mohammed.
The significance of this is lost on most who are not familiar with the mind-set of the East, but what it means is that he is seen by many (including bin Laden) as "legitimately" taking over the mantle of leadership/authority from Mohammed.
Omar is considered by many to be the pre-eminent leader of authority in the reforming Caliphate. In fact, bin Laden calls him "the Emir of the faithful". Emir is today translated as "General" or "Commander" or "Prince" or "Chieftain"~ alluding to militaristic command.
DRS
Posted by: DRS | Jan 10, 2008 12:56:51 PM
So if this guy is the new Leader, What happed to Mr Bin-ladin. Is Mr. Bin-Ladin finally and hopefully dead. As we can see this evil doer has reved up the attacks on Pakistan. Pakistan should at this time permit or allow outside forces into the country for security and terrorism control. any short of this will only lead too further Terror and dismay. Without outside intervention, I fear this country is headed a very disatrous events. example look what happed today 01/10/2008. Mr Musharrif Please Wake up and smell the coffee., and yes Bush #2 is the worst thing too happen to America, Bush has failed to apprehend mr. Bin-ladin and his henchmen. Bush gets an F from me.
Posted by: AdeebN | Jan 10, 2008 12:57:33 PM
The Egyptian media reported Bin Laden's obituary in 2001, and in her final TV interview Benazir Bhutto named the man who killed him. Nobody with half a brain should forget that there would be no Taliban and 'Al-Qaeda' (Arabic slang for going to the toilet - 'ana raicha al-qaida) if it wasn't for Reagan's arming and funding them in the 1980s against the Soviets.
Posted by: A. Magnus | Jan 10, 2008 1:14:38 PM
I think the "Blame it on Bush" folks have swallowed way to much koolaid. I wonder what they would do to counter the threat from Radical Islam. Bush has stuck to his principles and policies in dealing with these State sponsored Jihadist. Bush haters should just move on and get a life. Your boring jabs and extremely low intelligence of global political complexities is just to much for you to comprehend. We need to unify this country, not divide it. Respect goes a long way, even when fighting your enemy. Know one wants war, yet when we were attacked, as on 9/11, Bush went out and kicked some butt, while all you koolaid drinkers got your war protest signs out and yelled your rights were being hijacked. Your have the right of free speech but you lack the ##### to fight for it. Thank are great Armed Forces ...they do have what it takes.
Posted by: Dalton PRIDDY | Jan 10, 2008 3:51:54 PM
Mike is not wrong. Possibly, Bin Laden enjoying in Mecca or Medina, but I am not surprised if somebody finds him in India. Indian Congress party and allies are the sympathizer of Islamic terrorism in India.
Posted by: KMR | Jan 10, 2008 4:33:19 PM
Speaking of OBL, here we are over six years later and the FBI's 10 most wanted list doesn't even mention 9/11 as reason he is wanted. Am I the only one that finds that odd?
Posted by: Topsey Krett | Jan 10, 2008 4:39:39 PM
How about a new "Tactic"? Take no prisoners - !
Posted by: Dan | Jan 10, 2008 5:34:35 PM
Dangerous? Why, because he'll kill unarmed women and kids too? I've noticed that they aren't quite so "dangerous" when they're facing armed US marines, unless you happen to be in the way of their retreat. We will not solve the terrorism problem until we declare to the world our position that the minute you become a terrorist you forfeit your dues to the human race and all of your rights along with it. There must be such a steep price for embracing terrorism, anything less than this will be a waste of time and just cost more lives of decent law abiding citizens.
Posted by: Mark | Jan 10, 2008 8:42:09 PM
It does matter who is in charge of these Islamic terrorist. How many of you know the meaning of Islam? Not very many ... it means to submit, as in the entire world. It seems that everyone is way too eager to blame some one, as in our President. I, for one who is a vet twice over, am sick and tired of those who NEVER put a uniform on whine and blame whoever is in charge.
You all forget first, some one has to have the guts to stand for what is right, and second a congress and senate to work together.
We are are in a fight for our survival, and until this country as whole understands that, we are doomed. The terrorisrts are laughing at us. A house divided will surely fall.
Hence, it doesn't matter who is in charge of these terrorist, since we are destroying ourselves from within.
Those who continue to critize our president, are nothing more than cowards.
P.S. You can always go to Canada or Mexico, if yur that unhappy here.
Posted by: Jerry Johnstone | Jan 10, 2008 10:40:26 PM
Get people high and addicted on opium and they will do anything. Life is cheap in that part of the world, they just don't care that much about it. It will take generations for them to change that attitude
Posted by: Superman | Jan 10, 2008 11:44:30 PM
What wrong with u guys?
bin laden is Actor
Release video in Hollywood
Al Qaeda is bush fiction
War is real, war is terrorism
so, bush is king of terror
Why, it is difficult to understand
War is just for oil
money, gold, there s no WMD ??
Why is difficult to understand???
Posted by: panglima | Jan 11, 2008 1:12:28 AM
Without Bush interfering in other country's affairs, the Mideast would be more peaceful and the whole world would be more harmonious. The world is the world shared by all the countries in the world instead of the world only belonging to the United States of America.
Posted by: Jimmy | Jan 11, 2008 2:41:02 AM
Without Bush interfering in other country's affairs, the Mideast would be more peaceful and the whole world would be more harmonious. The world is the world shared by all the countries in the world instead of the world only belonging to the United States of America.
Posted by: Jimmy | Jan 11, 2008 2:41:59 AM
Do you follow blindly or are you just running life with blinders on. with you comment about leaving, if Benjamin Frank, or Thomas Jefferson thought like you, We would be under British rules. Thank God, we don't have you running this country, People like you can lead us to a world war III. If I don't speak my mind then what are the freedoms we fought the British for. I love my country but I hate people like you and the President. I am American. I think for my self I believe in myself. I don't follow I lead. I am an American.
Posted by: AdeebN | Jan 11, 2008 4:28:57 PM
musharraf is letting his army get deafeated he knows they have iranian ties in the tribal area thats why butto is dead and he will not let the us come in under no reason because he is part of it and its only a matter of time before iran gets the nuks they always wanted right in pakistian its scary
Posted by: ebgebees | Jan 12, 2008 12:08:23 AM
This guy, Taliban leader dangerous? He's hiding his face. How brave, ruthless and dangerous is that?
Posted by: Midnight | Jan 12, 2008 2:35:10 AM
Bill Clinton is more dangerous than Bin Laden. The interns need to be careful.
Posted by: Rose Lawfirm | Jan 12, 2008 6:20:38 PM
Bin Laden is a made up character to instill fear by our Government to control the American People. More crap to follow I'm sure.
Posted by: terrie | Jan 13, 2008 6:26:58 AM
I can't stand Bush either but don't be naive. These lunatics need to be taken out. This is where the real war on muslim extremism should be fought. Iraq is just an oil and money grab by a corrupt US administration. As a Canadian I support our thousands of troops in Afghanistan.
Posted by: Greatwhite | Jan 13, 2008 6:10:00 PM
For one thing, the guy's last name is Mehsud, not Meshud.
Abdullah Mehsud (mentioned as a brother is some articles, and unrelated in others) was another tribal leader who had spent time in Guantanamo Bay. Upon release he had returned to Pakistan, to be killed in 2005. You might remember him considering he was well known for having just one leg.
Previous to his death, he was one of the tribal leaders who declined a share of the $540,000 from the Pakistan government, supposed to be used by the 4 tribal leaders accepting payment to re-pay part of their massive debts to al-Qaeda.
The payment was reported on Feb. 10, 2005, buried in the World in Brief section of the supposed liberal N.Y. Times and supposed conservative Tribune Review.
Just how many explosives can you buy in the Middle East for a little over a 1/2 a mil? And does the fact that it was a supposed ally making the payments justify overlooking the fact that it was probably U.S. taxpayer monies being used to make a payment to al-Qaeda, whether or not it was through Taleban middlemen?
And exactly who had condoned a former Taleban spokesman being allowed into the U.S., in order to attend Yale?
Those believing that people are traitors for questioning this government are so blind to the fact that we support terrorism when convenient.
Use your minds people. Go back well before 9/11 and read about the Taleban and Unocal. Watch former Gitmo prosecutor Lt. Col. Morris Davis (c-span) hedge about whether 9/11 was planned in Afghanistan (40 minutes or so into his Case Law School appearance). Follow the news and put the pieces together.
Our country's future depends on it.
Posted by: dba | Jan 13, 2008 8:04:31 PM
Good one, dba...
Wether BinLaden is dead or alive should make no difference.
It is the idea that someone is keeping alive, as evidence from the news reports, that someone else has taken control of Al Qaeda.
There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person could believe in them.
George Orwell
Posted by: ToungeTyed | Jan 14, 2008 10:05:54 AM
We got ourselves a new boogey man.
Posted by: | Jan 14, 2008 1:57:35 PM
I allways love coming to the board and reading the leftist comments. They seem to support Islamic clause, even though, it would mean the end to all things the left loves. What a weird bunch.
Posted by: Jack | Jan 16, 2008 9:10:22 AM
Jerry Johnstone,
Keep them inline...
Jack,
And you are an expert on the Left? How about the Right? or even the Center?
Glad you enjoy the board.
Weird Is US. US is Weird.
Get used to it - it will not go away.
Posted by: wEiRdO | Jan 16, 2008 5:21:00 PM
well say what you may but bush ste[p up to the plate which is more than the rest of you cowarding little sniffs could of done.
Posted by: stud american | Jan 18, 2008 8:08:21 AM
I allways love coming to the board and reading the leftist comments. They seem to support Islamic clause, even though, it would mean the end to all things the left loves. What a weird bunch.
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I get a kick out of the twisted statements like that, barked up by ditto-heads that have no clue about what anyone on the left believes; Jack must be infected with Coulter's Disease or something. I am on the "left" in many issues (notable exception; 2nd amendment). I don't support any Islamic cause, especially those of the vicious terrorist creeps. I would shoot OBL on sight, and at the same time, I see Bush as trampling on the constitution that he swore to uphold. Bush is ruining our country, whether or not his "war on terror" is making any headway.
We lefties believe in the rights that the constitution guarantees to US citizens, even if Bush doesn't.
Posted by: MountainMan | Mar 19, 2008 10:47:47 PM
Actually, Bush is an idiot but a faithful puppet to the guys that bought his election with 300 millin $ to sprad lies. Lies about vastly better men, like Kerry and McCain. The money was spent to preserve the billions of more $$$ they are stealing from Iraq and from the American treasure. But as far as the policy of what to do with the 30,000 some terrorists that have been captured in the oil war. Dan has it right either take no prisoners (since Bush ignores the Geneva conventions regarding prisoners) or hang 10 for 1 every time any of their terroirst buddies murders someone. That is deterence. You cannot beat people that do not fear death unless you teach them to fear first. Bush never had the ****s or the intention to do that. Who,is scarier? Bush violated the constitution, his oath of office and lastly, rights of millions of Americans. OBL and the crazies only wish they could cause that much harm. .
Posted by: Eugene Elliott | Mar 30, 2008 9:58:49 PM
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