Rick Klein is ABC News' Senior Political Reporter and author of The Note's morning look at the upcoming day in politics. Throughout the day, ABC News' political team contributes to The Note with the very latest news and analysis from the nation's capital.
To email Rick Klein, click here.
RECENT POSTS
- AARP Endorses Cloture Vote, Not Yet Reid's Bill
- McCain Targets Ben Nelson on Health Care Vote
- 'Top Line' -- Ambassador Oprah? Senator Oprah?
- Sen. Brown: Health Care Bill Needs More Subsidies
- GOP Leaders: Obama Has ‘Emboldened Our Enemies' with Afghanistan Deliberations
- Burris Cleared of Legal Wrongdoing -- But With Swipe from Ethics Committee
- Friends, in Need: Obama Faces Backlash on Jobs, Economy
- Doug Hampton: Ensign Knowingly Broke Ethics Rules on Lobbying
- The Note's Must-Reads for Friday, November 20, 2009
- Did Illinois Guv Nod Off at Health Care Debate?
THE NOTE CATEGORIES
- 2010
- Afghanistan
- Bill Clinton
- CIA
- Congress
- Democratic party
- Environment
- Financial Reform
- GOP
- Gov. Mark Sanford
- Gov. Sarah Palin
- Guantanamo
- Health Care
- Hillary Clinton
- Immigration
- Iran
- Iraq
- John McCain
- Mitt Romney
- North Korea
- Obama Agenda
- Politics Live
- President Obama
- Republican Party
- Ronald Reagan
- Sen. John Ensign
- Senate
- Sonia Sotomayor
- Stimulus
- Sunday Shows
- Supreme Court
- Ted Kennedy
- The Note
- The Note Must-Reads
- Top Line
- Vice President Biden
- Virginia
MONTHLY ARCHIVES
« Previous | Main | Next »
Legislature, Not Court, Brings Gay Marriage to Vt.
April 07, 2009 12:18 PM
ABC News' Teddy Davis reports:
Vermont's legislature voted Tuesday to legalize same-sex marriage by overriding the veto of Republican Gov. Jim Douglas. The vote was 23-5 to override in the state Senate and 100-49 to override in the House. Under Vermont law, two-thirds of each legislative body had to vote for the override.
Vermont is not the first state to adopt same-sex marriage. But it is the first state to adopt same-sex marriage through non-judicial means.
While Vermont is more liberal than many other states, Tuesday's vote is significant nationally because of the way in which it changes the contours of the debate.
Up until now, opponents of same-sex marriage have been able to buttress religious- and tradition-based arguments with attacks on judicial over-reaching.
For example, when Iowa's Supreme Court legalized same-sex marriage last week, Tony Perkins, the president of the conservative Family Research Council, issued a statement saying that same-sex marriage "continues to be a movement driven by a liberal judicial elite determined to destroy not only the institution of marriage, but democracy as well."
This sweeping indictment of the "liberal judicial elite" was based, in part, on the fact that the three states which currently recognize same-sex marriage -- Massachusetts, Connecticut, and Iowa -- all got there through court decree.
A fourth state -- California -- also adopted same-sex marriage after a decision of the state's Supreme Court. On two occasions, in 2005 and 2007, California's legislature passed a same-sex marriage bill but the legislation was vetoed by Republican Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger and the bill's proponents did not have the two-thirds vote necessary to override the veto.
In Vermont, same-sex marriage is now law through a vote of the people's representatives.
April 7, 2009 | Permalink | Share | User Comments (169)
You can follow this conversation by subscribing to the comment feed for this post.
This is exactly how a republican naysayer should be treated.
VETO THIS MR GOVERNOR , YOU ARE OVERRULED!
Posted by: TTER | Apr 7, 2009 12:40:29 PM
Too bad that the representives don't listen to the people that put them into power.
Now it is time to take their power away.
Posted by: Dave | Apr 7, 2009 12:40:32 PM
The closest thing to a poll I've seen on this issue in Vermont is the Doyle Poll, and it showed a 53% to 38% majority in favor of same sex marriage in Vermont. They've already had civil unions for almost a decade, so anyone thinking this is going to result in a voter revolt is delusional.
Personally, I think the government should approve same-sex marriage - it's just paperwork and it is good for societal structures overall. I view real marriage as a sacrament recognized by my church, and it is under no threat whatsoever from this.
Posted by: jhw539 | Apr 7, 2009 1:03:29 PM
Does anyone realize or care that these people,gays and the lawmakers that rule in their favor, are going straight to hell.
Posted by: Mac | Apr 7, 2009 1:12:31 PM
"Does anyone realize or care that these people, gays and the lawmakers that rule in their favor, are going straight to hell."
I don't know, but I guess they'll see haters like you there.
Posted by: Alex | Apr 7, 2009 1:18:05 PM
Wrong Alex, I don't hate anyone. I don't agree with that lifestyle. Where did you read "hate" into anything I said?
Posted by: Mac | Apr 7, 2009 1:30:28 PM
It will be interesting to watch and see if the conservatives try anything to override the peoples will. Are they going to use the federal courts to overturn the legislatures? Conservatives usually preach about state rights until those states disagree with conservative views.
Posted by: unshrub | Apr 7, 2009 1:36:25 PM
Mac:
I forgot, I am not scared of going to hell for supporting gay marriages. I would, however, be worried about going to hell if I don't let gays have free will. Anything that happens afterwards will be God's decision because it's not my place to judge who goes to hell.
Posted by: unshrub | Apr 7, 2009 1:39:53 PM
Last time I checked hell was a city in Michigan.
Posted by: bhciapol | Apr 7, 2009 1:40:27 PM
I'm gay and I went to Hell. And when I went it was cold and frozen in some places. Hell is in the north of Poland, and I've been there twice and back! Gays are not asking for special priviledges, they are simply asking to have the same laws and protections applied equally not just to them but to everyone!
Posted by: Ernest van DerDyke | Apr 7, 2009 2:03:06 PM
GO VERMONT! WAY TO GO VERMONT LEGISLATURE!
Posted by: Nancy | Apr 7, 2009 2:28:07 PM
Same sex marriage is not the same as a marriage between a male and a female. It is an abomination and it produces death. It actually ends the human race because it cannot reproduce. Marriage is something that is living and can continue the human race not kill it.
Posted by: lowes4321 | Apr 7, 2009 2:28:29 PM
American marriage is chiefly regulated by the states, not by a church or a specific religious belief. The Supreme Court has held that states are permitted to reasonably regulate the institution of marriage by prescribing WHO is allowed to marry, and how the marriage can be dissolved.
Nowhere is "Marriage" defined in the US Constitution; our laws are not based on the Bible or a specific denomination's interpretation of the Bible.
Two centuries ago marriage was a contract based upon a voluntary private agreement by a man and a woman. Originally, the husband's duty was to provide a safe house and pay for necessities such as food and clothing. It was also presumed a wife's obligations were to maintain the home, have sex with her husband, and to raise the children.
Today the underlying concept that marriage is a legal contract still remains. But the assumptions about "marriage obligations" have changed: Women are in the workforce. Couples share housework and raising children. Vermont is simply adapting to more changes in our society.
Posted by: LetUsLeaf | Apr 7, 2009 2:33:14 PM
good for vermont. as one of those left-coast "breeders," i applaud my wooded friends in VT for taking a stand for basic human rights. gays/lesbians are not asking for special rights. they are asking for, gasp! shock! dismay!, the same rights as everyone else. where i'd like to show respect for those who disagree on religious bounds, their opinion flies in the face of 1. the separation of church and state, 2. the concept that i think makes the US so special, "equal protection under the law." i am no legal authority, but those concepts get at the base of what it means to be free, of free choice and key to life liberty and the pursuit of happiness.
again, my best to all those in VT!
now, if we can only get prop 8 over-turned in CA, my girlfriend and i will be a happy couple indeed!
Posted by: alan | Apr 7, 2009 2:35:13 PM
"Wrong Alex, I don't hate anyone. I don't agree with that lifestyle. Where did you read "hate" into anything I said?"
Oh, I don't know, it might have had something to do with the whole "these people...are going straight to hell" piece. But I could be wrong.
Posted by: Schu | Apr 7, 2009 2:35:13 PM
It's great day for freedom and equality in the USA!
And by the way: Why is there so much hatred being expressed on this issue - when most news sites, TV broadcasts and Internet commentary blanket our senses with "normal" news such as the Palin-Johnston dysfunctional parenthood story.
Enough, let a nice, committed gay couple move in next door!
Posted by: Tom | Apr 7, 2009 2:36:09 PM
lowes4321 that was funny. I say that because I really hope you aren't seriously suggesting that same sex marriage will end the human race. Sure, same sex couples can't reproduce, but there are plenty of us out there having 2,3,4 or more children. That's more enough to make up for them, I think.
Posted by: Brian | Apr 7, 2009 2:36:57 PM
Lowes4321--With record birthrates in this nation and others across the globe, I really don't think you need to worry about the death of the human race.
Posted by: Doug | Apr 7, 2009 2:38:41 PM
Lowes4321--With record birthrates in this nation and others across the globe, I really don't think you need to worry about the death of the human race.
Posted by: Doug | Apr 7, 2009 2:39:55 PM
Posted by: lowes4321 | Apr 7, 2009 2:28:29 PM
How does a married homosexual couple who adopts a child in need of a loving home "produce death"? Where do you find so much fear and hate?
Posted by: Church Lady | Apr 7, 2009 2:40:07 PM
Post a comment
POLITICAL VIDEOS
THE NOTE BLOG ROLL
- ABC News -- George Stephanopoulos
- ABC News -- Jake Tapper
- ABC News Politics
- ABC News -- The Numbers
- ABC News -- The Blotter
- The American Prospect -- TAPPED
- The Atlantic -- Politics Channel
- The Boston Globe -- Political Intelligence
- Center for American Progress -- Think Progress
- Center for Responsive Politics
- The Chicago Sun-Times -- Lynn Sweet
- The Chicago Tribune -- The Swamp
- Drudge Report
- FactCheck.org
- FiveThirtyEight
- Heritage Foundation -- The Foundry
- The Hill -- Briefing Room
- The Hotline
- The Huffington Post
- The Los Angeles Times -- Top of the Ticket
- NPR -- Political Junkie
- National Review -- The Corner
- The New Republic -- The Plank
- The New York Times -- The Caucus
- Newsweek -- The Gaggle
- Political Wire -- Taegan Goddard
- Politico -- Ben Smith
- Politico -- Mike Allen’s Playbook
- PolitiFact
- Real Clear Politics
- Talking Points Memo
- Time -- The Page
- USA Today -- On Politics
- Variety -- Wilshire & Washington
- The Wall Street Journal -- Capital Journal
- The Washington Post -- The Fix
- The Washington Post -- 44

