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Reid, Pelosi Split on Commissions

April 23, 2009 1:48 PM

ABC News' Jonathan Karl reports: Democrats are in disarray on how to deal with the torture issue -- and a commission fever on Capitol Hill has the top Senate Democrat and the House speaker at odds.

Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., told reporters today that he is against the idea of starting a so-called "truth commission" to look into the issue.  He believes that, for now, the Senate Intelligence Committee's investigation into the issue is adequate.  Until we get all the facts, Reid said, people should "relax."  He added:  "Justice should be served, but it should not be retribution."

But Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif., told reporters yesterday that she favors a truth commission.  So does Senate Judiciary Chairman Pat Leahy, D-Vt., and several liberal Democratic Senators, including Russ Feingold, D-Wis., and Sheldon Whitehouse, D-R.I.

Meanwhile, the Senate passed a measure yesterday to create an independent 9-11 style commission to examine the causes of the financial crisis.

Reid favors that commission.

Pelosi, however, is against it, preferring a bi-partisan Congressional commission. 

So, for those keeping score:

Reid:  Wants an independent economic truth commission, not a torture truth commission.

Pelosi:  Wants a torture truth commission, not an independent economic truth commission.

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The Democrats have been in
control of the Congress from 2006.
Aside from having numerous investigations and passing the
pork laden stimulus bill and omnibus
budget which spend trillions of our
tax dollars, what have they
accomplished?
How much did they waste to
investigate steroid use in baseball?
Send them home in 2010 so they can
investigate the Want Ads!

Posted by: reaganfan | Apr 23, 2009 2:07:24 PM

This has the potential to tear apart the party...

http://www.political-buzz.com/

Posted by: matt | Apr 23, 2009 2:14:36 PM

I can't wait to see how ALL the Democrats on the Intelligence Committee were in formed many times of the CIAs plan and how such interrogations were to take place. How will Nancy Pelosi be able to blame someone else for her votes. Politicians should also be held accountable and face prosecution if this whitch hunt continues.

Posted by: James Smith | Apr 23, 2009 2:28:48 PM

There was no actionable intelligence gained from using enhanced interrogation techniques on Abu Zubaydah that wasn’t, or couldn’t have been, gained from regular tactics.
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The above quote is from the FBI agent who was interrogating Zubaydah - he's the one that was waterboarded 83 times.
Torture is wrong, unnecessary, and the fact that the US did it is disgusting. We as a country need to get to the bottom of this and squeeze the pus out of this national boil.
Read Ali Soufan's editorial in yesterdays NYTimes. Democrat, Republican, doesn't matter. Need to get everything out.

Posted by: Steve From NH | Apr 23, 2009 2:53:58 PM

"Politicians should also be held accountable and face prosecution"

Yes they should, and if any Democrats were in on it they too must be held accountable.

Either we let a judge or a commission look into this and let the evidence take us where it leads us or we accept that torture has become part of what America stands for.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | Apr 23, 2009 2:55:43 PM

trickle down Reagonomics is what created this financial mess we're in.

Posted by: reagonRIP | Apr 23, 2009 3:12:45 PM

They seriously must have something better to do!

Don't forget Reaganfan - they have been busy going around the world apologizing for our arrogance. Now that will keep us all safe!

Posted by: jfk767 | Apr 23, 2009 3:12:48 PM

reagonRIP - are you serious? You might want to go back to the Clinton admin when all the pressure was put on the banks to make loans to people that could not afford it.

That is why we are here! If you listen to what Reagan said and I quote for you "Government is not the answer - it is the problem"

I think this applies today.

Posted by: jfk767 | Apr 23, 2009 3:16:03 PM

How about we Put Party aside and Get to the Bottom of this and if Laws were Broken Regardless Democrats or Republicans lets do the right thing!

Posted by: Angie in Pa | Apr 23, 2009 3:17:02 PM

What a JOKE Pelosi is....that dumb B has been the 3rd in line to the presidency for a few years, so she was included in ALL THE Details of our interegation programs. I'm surprised she isn't keeping mum on this subject, but it just goes to show her intelligence. And, of yeah, I don't care how much you tortured those imbeciles, they deserved much worse. Who's questioning the ethics of the other side that beheaded their captives...?????

Posted by: Scott from Quantico | Apr 23, 2009 3:24:45 PM

One liberal posted that there was no actionable intelligence....attributed to someone at the FBI. Funny, I've heard that a second 9/11 (aimed at L.A.) was averted thanks to the information derived from a waterboarding "interview". If you asked any Liberal (off the record and no on tape or camera) which they'd prefer: using techniques that produce information that keeps thousands of Americans safe from a specific attack or not. They'd all want to avoid another 9/11 (God, I pray they would)!

Posted by: S Rose | Apr 23, 2009 3:30:15 PM

I'll tell you what is disgusting.... the enemies of our country the US and how they torture and how they treat americans. No one is thinking about that!! Who will look out for us? Who will defend us? Who will show us mercy? NO ONE - All we have to look forward to is a Shiek, sending electric shocks up our behind and running us over with car while Filming it!!!!

Posted by: Pink | Apr 23, 2009 3:42:39 PM

As if they have not screwed up enough, now let the politicians -- headed by Twiddle Dumb (Harry Reid) and Twiddle Dee
(Nancy Pelosi) -- take on truth commissions! We have the worst recession since since the 1930's; we have a public education system in steep decline; we are involved in two wars with threats rising daily; and these two idiots (along with 'Leaky Leahy') wanting 'truth commissions'! Would someone please remind these clowns that the USA, repeat USA was attacked on 9-11-2001 due in part to the failure of the Clinton administration; and that 3,000 innocent American citizens were killed?? These fools are causing less and less confidence in the US government, and WE DID NOT ELECT THE WEST COAST LIBERALS TO GOVERN THIS COUNTRY!!

Posted by: PappyHappy | Apr 23, 2009 3:59:27 PM

S Rose,
that "someone" at the FBI was probably supervisory special agent Ali Soufan whose objection to the use of torture led to the FBI pulling out of cooperation with the CIA. He has an op-ed in the NY Times today that I think you should read.

And the story about the second 9/11 in LA, plantet by Bush's former speech writer, - that plot was foiled BEFORE the CIA began using torture. Timothy Noah of Slate did a great article on that.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | Apr 23, 2009 4:02:29 PM

Doen't the geneva convention only apply to wars between countries? The last i heard, we aren't fighting a country, but rather terrorists who send children strapped w/ bombs into crowds of civillians. Allowing Terrorists to be protected by the geneva convention is similar to allowing ILLEGAL aliens to file civil suits against farmers for protecting their property.

Posted by: Corey | Apr 23, 2009 4:08:00 PM

Need to get everything out.

So Stevie...You want the Dems like Frank & Dodd under the microscope for their actions?

Posted by: Mike_C | Apr 23, 2009 4:09:26 PM

"Doesn't the geneva convention only apply to wars between countries?"

It is not that simple, but forget about the Geneva Conventions for a moment and take a look at the United Nations Convention Against Torture. The US is bound by that and what went on was a clear violation.

Posted by: El_Pajaro | Apr 23, 2009 4:18:10 PM

Sounds like Pelosi is more interested in protecting Chriss Dodd and Barney Frank and Jihadist Community Organizers than she is protecting the country.

Posted by: Don't waterboard me Bro! | Apr 23, 2009 4:20:49 PM

testing

Posted by: anonimus anonimus | Apr 23, 2009 4:29:39 PM

testing

Posted by: anonimus | Apr 23, 2009 4:30:18 PM

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