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Intelligence Report: Pelosi Briefed on Use of Interrogation Tactics in Sept. ’02

May 07, 2009 6:02 PM

Klein_2ABC News’ Rick Klein reports: House Speaker Nancy Pelosi was briefed on the use of “enhanced interrogation techniques” on terrorist suspect Abu Zubaydah in September 2002, according to a report prepared by the Director of National Intelligence’s office and obtained by ABC News.

The report, submitted to the Senate Intelligence Committee and other Capitol Hill officials Wednesday, appears to contradict Pelosi’s statement last month that she was never told about the use of waterboarding or other special interrogation tactics. Instead, she has said, she was told only that the Bush administration had legal opinions that would have supported the use of such techniques.

The report details a Sept. 4, 2002 meeting between intelligence officials and Pelosi, then-House intelligence committee chairman Porter Goss, and two aides. At the time, Pelosi was the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee.

The meeting is described as a “Briefing on EITs including use of EITs on Abu Zubaydah, background on authorities, and a description of particular EITs that had been employed.”

EITs stand for “enhanced interrogation techniques,” a classification of special interrogation tactics that includes waterboarding.

Pelosi, D-Calif., sharply disputed suggestions last month that she had been told about waterboarding having taken place.

“In that or any other briefing . . . we were not, and I repeat, were not told that waterboarding or any of these other enhanced interrogation techniques were used," Pelosi said at a news conference in April. "What they did tell us is that they had some legislative counsel . . . opinions that they could be used, but not that they would." 

Brendan Daly, a Pelosi spokesman, said Pelosi’s recollection of the meeting is different than the way it is described in the report from the DNI’s office.

“The briefers described these techniques, said they were legal, but said that waterboarding had not yet been used,” Daly said.

Daly pointed out that the report backs up Pelosi’s contention that she was briefed only once on “enhanced interrogation techniques.” Her name does not appear elsewhere in the report.

"As this document shows, the speaker was briefed only once, in September 2002," Daly said.

At the briefing, Pelosi did not formally register objections to the interrogation techniques authorized by the Bush administration. President Obama has said he considers such techniques to be "torture."

According to the interrogation memos released last month by the Obama administration, Abu Zubaydah was waterboarded 83 times in August 2002.

UPDATE: The report also details dozens of other meetings with members of Congress -- though not with Pelosi present -- where the use of waterboarding and other interrogation techniques was described.

The Senate intelligence committee’s chairman and ranking member, Bob Graham and Richard Shelby, were given a briefing similar to the one with Pelosi and Goss on Sept. 27, 2002, according to the report.

On Feb. 4, 2003, a briefing on “enhanced interrogation techniques” for Sen. Pat Roberts, R-Kan., and Sen. John D. Rockefeller IV, D-W.Va., revealed that interrogations of Abu Zubaydah and Abd Al-Rahim Al-Nashiri were taped.

In addition, that briefing “described in considerable details” the techniques used, including “how the water board was used.”

A similar briefing the following day included Goss and Rep. Jane Harman, D-Calif., who by that time had become the top Democrat on the House intelligence committee, when Pelosi moved on to become minority leader.

The report is accompanied by a letter from CIA Director Leon Panetta to intelligence committee leaders that describes the way it was compiled: “This letter presents the most thorough information we have on dates, locations, and names of all Members of Congress who were briefed by the CIA on enhanced interrogation techniques. This information, however, is drawn from the past files of the CIA and represents [memorandums for the record] completed at the time and notes that summarized the best recollections of those individuals. In the end, you and the Committee will have to determine whether this information is an accurate summary of what actually happened. We can make the MFRs available at CIA for staff review.”

UPDATE II (5/8/09): Speaker Pelosi's statement Friday went slightly further, covering all interrogation techniques, not just waterboarding.

And the top Republican on the House intelligence committee, Rep. Peter Hoekstra, tells me that the speaker has lost "credibility" on this subject.

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So....either Pelosi lied outright or she has a very bad memory.

Posted by: Crazy Pen | May 7, 2009 6:29:46 PM

Somebody has some explaining to do.

Posted by: Missy M | May 7, 2009 6:31:57 PM

Everyone back then was afraid to cross Bush. Even Pelosi. And newspapers such as the New York Times which reportedly is in dire need of bailout funds it doesn't deserve.

Posted by: AspenFreePress | May 7, 2009 6:33:40 PM

Waterboard Pelosi. I am sure she will remember then.

Posted by: james at 37 | May 7, 2009 6:36:36 PM

I guess since the republicans controlled the house, senate, the court, and the oval office she should have protested.

Posted by: rightbhind | May 7, 2009 6:37:33 PM

Pelosi should resign, immediately. It's what the Dem's would have any Repub do if the tables were turned. No free pass, Nan. Buh bye!

Posted by: BetsyRoss | May 7, 2009 6:39:54 PM

"I guess since the republicans controlled the house, senate, the court, and the oval office she should have protested." - rightbhind. Where have you been since 2006, rightbhnd? Congress has been in Democrat hands for the past 2-1/2 years!

Posted by: Publius | May 7, 2009 6:41:44 PM

The Democrats were afraid to cross Bush? I guess I was reading news from another planet.

Face it, Pelosi and a host of others just plain lied about what they knew. Does that surprise anybody?

Posted by: TucsonWilly | May 7, 2009 6:42:35 PM

look at the dems making excuses for Pelosi. Hypocrites! and she is the biggest of all.

Posted by: notanobamafan | May 7, 2009 6:43:46 PM

Didn't we already know this?

Posted by: ellsbells930 | May 7, 2009 6:43:47 PM

I voted Obama and I can tell you without a doubt that Pelosi and others are just flat out liars. Their memory is just fine but they think the Americans they represent are a bunch of stupid sheep. Might be right since we just keep voting them back in office. That's why I have said several times, as much as I like Obama he needs to clean his parties house and not just everyone else's. Pelosi is the bottom of the pit in my opinion.

Posted by: CAW | May 7, 2009 6:44:47 PM

Pelosi is just like most of the Democrats and Republicans! They will lie and do anything before owning up to their failures. Keeping their office and power is the only agenda they have! Observing and protecting the constitution of this nation is not in their realm of thinking or doing! Money and power is their only motive! The new world order of the Democrats is just as bad as the new world order of Republicans. My family does not trust or believe in any of them. Pelosi is at the top of list for liars and theives!

Posted by: stoltz61 | May 7, 2009 6:47:26 PM

Hmmm...I wonder where all the liberals are on this blog ? Seems like they all go in to hiding when one fo their own is caught in a bald faced lie but are the first to scream the loudest when a conservative is only accused of something wrong. Pelosi needs to resign as speaker. She is a total joke.

Posted by: Ladnarc | May 7, 2009 6:47:33 PM

I'd love it if Pelosi resigned over this. She is part of the problem and needs to go. I'm an Obama voter.

Posted by: trevortb | May 7, 2009 6:48:20 PM

"Their memory is just fine but they think the Americans they represent are a bunch of stupid sheep." That's the entire rationale behind socialism and every other totalitarian form of government, CAW. People are too stupid to make the right decision, so the role of government is to tell them.

Posted by: Publius | May 7, 2009 6:48:46 PM

Now you see the truth and the hypocrisy of some of the Democrats. They yelled and yelled and manipulated the American public and the majority of people bought it. How sad the American public was duped.

Posted by: Ace | May 7, 2009 6:48:52 PM

look at the dems making excuses for Pelosi. Hypocrites! and she is the biggest of all.

Posted by: notanobamafan --------------Cant be talking about this Dem. I cant stand the lying witch.

Posted by: CAW | May 7, 2009 6:49:02 PM

Pelosi is a liar.!!!

Posted by: CW | May 7, 2009 6:49:44 PM

"Everyone back then was afraid to cross Bush. Even Pelosi" - Posted by: AspenFreePress

Sorry but that tired old "Bush made me do it" excuse doesn't cut it here. Perhaps Pelosi was afraid to speak out in 2002, when she first became aware of the torture, but that doesn't explain why she lied about what she knew and when she knew it in 2009, after Bush has been gone since January.

Pelosi, just like everyone else in this world, needs to take responsibility for her own actions. When Bush lied, we were outraged. We should be equally outraged that Pelosi lied.

Posted by: About Us | May 7, 2009 6:52:48 PM

We need term limits NOW !!!

Posted by: Ladnarc | May 7, 2009 6:53:14 PM

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