House Dems Unveil Health Care Plan

Why do I have that familiar feeling that when ever I read something like this I'm about to get screwed?

The whole problem with the health care INDUSTRY is insurance companies. We don't need more types of insurance, we need plain and simple health care. We shouldn't have insurance companies deciding on our health care. They are in it for a profit ! They are not in it to provide health care, but to deny health care and make money !

fuzzy; Agreed, but that's the problem isn't it; the congress and the insurance industry are pardners in the fleecing of the public. I'm convinced of it.

Well, if a "bipartisan" bill meant they couldn't do what they said they were going to do, why should they listen? I doubt the Democrats were materially consulted on matters such as the invasion of Iraq etc.

That said, it's just good manners to hear the other guys' ideas, but most of these guys have been saying the same thing for months.

T, "I doubt the Democrats were materially consulted on matters such as the invasion of Iraq etc." Huh! They also voted to go to Iraq. Check out the vote. The left side of the isle just wants people to forget about that.

I don't know who's to blame, the medical community or the insurance community but, I recently had a major operation, 1 day in intensive care and 4 days in hospital, the bill was over $274,000. Now, let's repeat that a few tens of thousands of times per year and you know what, it gets to be REAL money for someone.

Just 20 years overdue. This will save a lot of families with insurance from bankruptcy.

"They also voted to go to Iraq. Check out the vote. The left side of the isle just wants people to forget about that."

And the right side want you to forget that they lied to get that approval.

This is the problem here , they want to sell it for a trillion dollars which is an abomination. The truth is that it will cost more. It will have poor oversight because the Gov has never been managed properly, too much bureocracy and too many "scratch my back and I scratch yours". People will flock and overload the system, the chances to get good healthcare will be diminish.And more important, nobody has taken the appropiate time to examine the pros and cons. Just like the bail out this bill is going to be shovel down the taxpayers throat without proper consent of the people.

I'd like the members of congress opposed to this bill to give up their "poorly run" government provided health care and sign up for a private, profit based policy that the rest of americans are stuck with. Profiting off sick people such as accepting credit cards at the hospital is a tell of health care's primary focus: corporate profits.

25 cents of every dollar spent on healthcare goes to process the billing to settle claims between hospitals and insurance companies. A true single payer plan would reduce costs 25% by ending this practice. - ITWARZ

"I doubt the Democrats were materially consulted on matters such as the invasion of Iraq etc. '

Well, they VOTED for it -- so I guess that means they were "materially consulted". You libs all seem to conveniently forget that vote back in Oct. 2002.

I know a lot of House Dems and a few Senate Dems who support a single payer plan have compromised to support this plan and get it passed. What have the Repubs compromised on in order to get reform through? Nothing - because they seem to care more for political posturing than addressing America's healthcare crisis. I am not a Dem and I am sure there are some Repubs who care about more than sloganeering, but so far I have not heard from them.

I read this article a few days ago....."WASHINGTON (AP) — The wife of a senator playing a lead role on a national health care overhaul sits on the boards of four health care companies, one of several examples of lawmakers with ties to the medical industry. Jackie Clegg Dodd, wife of Sen. Chris Dodd, serves on the boards of Javelin Pharmaceuticals Inc., Cardiome Pharma Corp., Brookdale Senior Living, and Pear Tree Pharmaceuticals, a financial disclosure report the senator released Friday shows."

Government ran healthcare? One only needs to look at the way Medicare, Medicaid and the VA is ran to know that Washington doesn't have a clue. As a former VA employee, I KNOW that the employees that work for the VA are paid A LOT more than the private sector. Why? The unionization of federal employees would be my best guess.

force the drug companies to charge us no more than they charge Canadians.

Give us equal health benefits that congress has. Lets see our congress say we are not equal to them.

Does the Rep. party want some cheese to go with their whine? The American people want health care!! They need to get onboard and quit being the party of NO!!

"25 cents of every dollar spent on healthcare goes to process the billing to settle claims between hospitals and insurance companies. A true single payer plan would reduce costs 25% by ending this practice. - ITWARZ"

LOL....ONLY IN A WORLD WHERE THAT SINGLE PAYER DECIDES WHAT THE COST STRUCTURES & COVERAGES WILL BE. You actually think there will be complete agreement and acceptance of a govt mandated cost & coverage plan?

Our govt, who cant write a bill and then explain how the language of it changed and how everone vote don it but didnt catch it!

Our govt, whose Treasury dept cant even READ the LAW where it pertains to the IG in charge of TARP oversight!

Our govt ...that cant control the fraud in Medicare, Medicaid, & SS.

Our govt, who get blasted left & right for mistakes and holes in the medical coverages we give our Vets!

Take a REAL look at the actual implemeantations in the systems already in use in the world. NOT the fantasy stories, but the real workings. The real costs. Many here have touted the Swiss system.

Funny thing though, they never mention the Swiss system has pre-existing condition clauses. The govt only pays 25% of the costs and therefore for a family of four, the cost per month for reasonable coverage is still over a $1000 US dollars! AND they only have a population of about 7.5 Million people, a far cry from our estimated 340-350 million!

There is no thought given to incrementally fixing the system, which is the only serious way to approach the problem. This would allow for course corrections on parts of programs that aren't working as advertised. We are being told that everything is a disaster, everything an emergency, and if we don't sign on blindly to all of it now the world will end. Pretty much what we were told about the bailouts and stimulus bills. Guthrie said it best "Some will rob you with a six gun and some with a fountain pen."

The USA is not 1st in anything-health care-education-business-etc-get over it-43 million people without health care-who do you think picks up the tab for this?
Health care costs will go up 9% this yerar-did you get a 9% raise?