DNC Targets Democratic Senators on Health Care

brought to you from the same people who promised unemployment would never go above 8.5% if we passed the stimulus package. How many people are traveling to Canada or the UK for medical care? NONE!! This is a disaster in the making.

We can only pray that Washington will come to its senses and not vote for this disastrous bill. We will certainly wish they haden't when we can't find a doctor to treat us and we are told that the procedure we need will have to wait!

Democrat or Republican, Liberial or Conservitive - Take Note. If you vote for this or Cap and Trade, you can kiss you job goodby in 2010. We have had enought.

Signed,

The Silent Majority

'We will certainly wish they haden't when we can't find a doctor to treat us and we are told that the procedure we need will have to wait!"

THI8S IS A REPUBLICAN FANTACY, THEY ARE MAKING ALL THIS UP - SCARE TACTIC THAT WON'T WORK. THE RICH JUST WANT YOU TO CUT THEIT TAXES SO THEY CAN PAD PERSONAL SAVING ACCOUNTS AND HORDE JOBS

I want to apply for the 'stimulus czar' opening. Opps, guess not. I didn't vote for Obama.

"How many people are traveling to Canada or the UK for medical care?"
that's a dumb question...if people can't afford healthcare how are they going to afford to travel to obtain healthcare? And it's not like Canada or the UK are going to treat noncitizens for free....one has to work there for a year in order to qualify.
That argument simply doesn't work any better than others in regards to how other countries HELP their citizens obtain healthcare.

"We will certainly wish they haden't when we can't find a doctor to treat us and we are told that the procedure we need will have to wait!"
poor you - that happens NOW to people w/out coverage. And it'll get harder and harder to get seen in an ER as people w/out coverage seek care in ERs and hold up the works. Hospitals aren't getting paid so are having to lay off key workers. And the list will continue until the country can adequately solve this healthcare crisis and people accept the fact that there needs to be some type of solvency in ensuring EVERYONE GETS EQUALITY IN REGARDS TO HEALTHCARE. Those of us who do work and also put back into this failing system yet don't have access to healthcare deserve medical care as much as those of you who are fortunate enough to have a healthcare plan at your place of work or be able to afford a private health plan. I put into the system too....why should I not have access to medical care because I work for someone who won't offer healthcare insurance and I can't afford a private plan?

and I don't expect anyone to pay my coverage...I simply want to be able to afford some form of coverage whether it be through my payroll taxes or some form of regulation on insurance companies to even the playing field. I'm paying for state/federal/municipal workers along with SS, medicare/medicaid/those on disability via my payroll taxes yet I HAVE ACCESS TO NOTHING.
We already have socialized healthcare in this country...just depends on who one works for and/or what form of government assistance they are receiving. Problem is we pay for it but have no access to it. I don't want a free ride - I simply want an even playing firle.d

This is to Mary, If you say that you want to pay for health care thru payroll taxes. Why do you not just pay for a plan out of your pocket. If you think that it will be cheaper your wrong. A plan either way is going to take 20% out of your check. probally 30 if it is unclesam. And you will not get a good of covereage or any system of regress if they do not pay.

Mary,
If you want health care change jobs and work for someone who offers a health plan. As a small business owner I actaully put into the system as you say, plus 10% of my revenue goes toward medical coverage for my 8 employees, AND NOW you and your liberal president want me to pay for your coverage too. Of course I would like someone else to pay for my coverage but that isn't how the free enterprise system remains free.

Mary can you explain what system you are putting into? I doubt besides federal taxes and medicare/medicade you are putting anything more into the system that everyone else is also putting into - in addition to having to pay their own health care directly or indirectly through their place of employment. Consider talking to your employer and offer to take a smaller pay check home in exchange for health benefits. That way you can pay for your own as you claim a willingness to do.

Mary, i agree with you. I worked for a small business for 9 years, being symphathetic and loyal to my employer promising coverage every year while he covered indigent relatives.
We put into the system & pockets every time we pay for overblown setvices and drugs, long waits using ER for general work. And yes I paid every bill.
A public option will keep all providers honest. Why do you think the Wealth insurance lobbyists are paying over one million a day to fight this?

I guess you can ask how many people travel from all over the world to come to America for certain operations and procedures that their "socialized healthcare" doesn't provide??

Over 300 million Americans,; 250 + million have health care and we're rewriting everything for the 40-50 million who don't have it??? You want healthcare?? Get a job that offers it and don't ask those people that have it to pay for yours!!!!!!!!!!!

EVERYONE GETS EQUALITY IN REGARDS TO HEALTHCARE.
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As long as your ready for the govt to dictate how you eat, exercise ...etc.

There is no Equality in insurance. Insurance is fundamentally risk factor assesment and control.

If you have multiple speeding tickets, or have a history of DWI...etc...then your auto insurance gets very expensive!

By saying you will not allow pre-exisiting conditions to prevent one from obtaining insurance is one thing, BUT will the gov't plan charge more for those who have pre-exisitng conditions?

Should a life-time smoker get the same premium and coverage as a non-smoker in execellent health?

We know the probability of that smoker getting cancer and needing very expensive care and procedures is very high. Should not he be required to pay more for his life choices if we are going to move to a universal plan?

"And it's not like Canada or the UK are going to treat noncitizens for free....one has to work there for a year in order to qualify."

An inadvertent logical home run! Since the biggest single expense in U.S. health care is treating "noncitizens," why don't we start by telling noncitizens living here illegally that we won't pay for theirs?

just rust them...8% unemployment, a lying speaker of the house, a surgeon general who is overweight by 100 lbs.i saw a rally in my california town yesterday protesting budget cut. funny how most of the people were significantly overweight. my brother and sister aree laid off and dont want to screw up their unemployment and golf game while i work and employ countless people....i guess i didnt learn anything from grduate school.

Wow! so much fear mongering...so many GOP talking points that is just not true...

Wendell Potter, former head of communications for CIGNA interviewed with Bill Moyer...
“They are trying to make you worry,” says the former Cigna executive, “and fear a government bureaucrat between you and your doctor. What you have now is a corporate bureaucrat between you and your doctor.”
and that is not all but, it seems to mimics many of the fear based comments on this board...

More from Wendell Potter, former insurance exec.
Potter’s argument is simple: Insurance companies have been spending less and less of their customers’ money on paying for medical care and pocketing more and more of it. According to PricewaterhouseCoopers, for the seven largest insurers, the medical loss ratio—how much of a premium dollar is used to pay medical claims—fell from 85.3 percent in 1998 to 81.6 percent in 2008. The result, says Potter, amounts to several billion of dollars for those insurance companies and a plunge in stock value for those companies that fail to continually cut their medical costs.

The soaring profits have been achieved by pushing unprofitable patients off the rolls, denying coverage, jacking up premiums and selling plans that provide little coverage.

Small business have been particularly hard hit by the premium hikes. According to the National Small Business Association, the percentage of small businesses offering coverage declined from 61 percent in 1993 to 38 percent today.
Sorry about the copy and paste but,this opinion carries more weight than my own as this person that actually worked for a big insurance agency...