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History’s Call: Snowe vote gives Dem moderates cover -- but left gets next move
October 14, 2009 8:24 AM
ABC News’ Rick Klein reports:
One vote made the wait worthwhile for Democrats: Sen. Olympia Snowe's decision to support the Finance Committee health care bill gives the White House its Republican (and very possibly its only Republican) to tout a bipartisan process with.
Perhaps more importantly, this keeps open the front legislative door, since it makes 60 votes a real possibility again. Centrist Democrats in both the House and the Senate have the cover they need to support a bill (and can you imagine a Nelson or a Lieberman joining Republicans to filibuster health care now?).
Snowe, R-Maine, may be the only Republican who casts a vote for health care reform this year -- but she may also be the only vote Democrats need.
And don't miss Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton's fascinating interview with ABC's Cynthia McFadden, in Russia. Clinton tells McFadden she's ruling out running for both president and governor of New York: "I am neither frustrated nor planning anything other than being the best secretary of state I could be."
On the Big Question: "I have absolutely no interest in running for president again. None. None. I mean, I know that's hard for some people to believe, but, you know, I just -- I just don't -- I feel like that was a great experience -- you know, I gave it all I had, I'm giving this job all I have. I try to live in the present, so it just seems, you know, that -- that's not in my future."
(Plus this for your parsing pleasure: "If I had called him, I would have wanted him to say yes." And: "I am shocked at how much time I spend in the White House." More highlights, on Afghanistan and Iran, below -- and more to come on Wednesday's "World News," with the full interview to follow on "Nightline.")
Back to health care -- a big day, in symbols and substance, coming just less than a month after Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., stood alone at that press conference to announce the long-delayed Finance Committee bill:
"The signal is unmistakable. It's not just possible that health reform will pass. It now seems likely," The New Republic's Jonathan Cohn writes.
"The chances that something will pass has dramatically increased," ABC's George Stephanopoulos reported on "Good Morning America" Wednesday.
And yet -- the bill still looks very likely to shift leftward from here, and support could (and will) shift with it.
Keep in mind that Team Obama has had less control of the health care debate the farther it strays from the legislative process. That's one reason this period -- post-committee, pre-floor -- is critical.
Just a few tweaks before it reaches the Senate floor (don't you envy Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid?):
"Liberal Democrats, like Senator John D. Rockefeller IV of West Virginia, said they would push for a public insurance plan. Senators Ron Wyden of Oregon and Robert Menendez of New Jersey, both Democrats, said they would seek changes to make insurance more affordable to middle-income families. And Senator John Kerry of Massachusetts said he wanted to require employers to provide insurance to their employees," Robert Pear and David M. Herszenhorn report in The New York Times.
White House Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel will be on the Hill Wednesday for private talks, ABC's Jonathan Karl reports.
"Health care talks slip back behind closed doors Wednesday as Senate leaders start trying to merge two very different bills into a new version that can get the 60 votes needed to guarantee its passage," the AP's Ricardo Alonso-Zaldivar reports.
"Reid plans to meet today with Baucus and Sen. Christopher J. Dodd (D-Conn.), the lead champion of the health committee bill. The majority leader has said he hopes to have combined legislation on the Senate floor for debate by the end of the month," the Los Angeles Times' Noam N. Levey and James Oliphant report.
"Snowe's vote yesterday, while an important victory for Democrats eager to show some sign of bipartisan support, underscored how fragile the coalition is for comprehensive healthcare overhaul," Susan Milligan and Lisa Wangsness report in The Boston Globe.
Snowe knows what her vote means (and doesn't mean). Asked by ABC's Charlie Gibson whether one Republican vote means "true bipartisanship," she said: "Well, obviously not sufficient. We need to have more. We need to have support of the Democratic senators for example, who also can play a very pivotal role in this regard."
And room for compromise on a public option -- with a state opt-out? "I have concerns about that, because that could be another way of opting in to have a public option all across the country," Snowe told ABC's Robin Roberts on "GMA." (She still wants a trigger.)
Why her vote really matters: "Democrats, who already have 60 votes in the Senate, theoretically don't need her support. But in practice, they do -- to persuade their own wavering moderates to support the legislation," The Washington Post's Dana Milbank writes.
You thought there were a lot of ads before? "The insurance industry is now on the air in [six] states attacking Democratic health reform proposals as bad for seniors, according to an independent ad tracker," ABC's Teddy Davis reports. "The ad does not focus on yesterday's methodologically questionable report by PriceWaterhouseCoopers. Instead, it focuses on the impact to seniors of proposed cuts to Medicare Advantage."
Firing back: "The insurance industry has decided to lead the charge against health reform, and everyone recognizes their motives: profits," White House deputy communications director Dan Pfeiffer tells The Washington Post's Ceci Connolly. "We are going to make sure they can't sink this effort at the last minute."
Will the army march this time? Organizing for America "is asking the president's supporters to fight back against the health insurance industry by signing a petition and sending a message to Congress to ignore the insurance lobby's ‘scare tactics,' " per ABC's Teddy Davis.
Over on the left: "They've done their part as a bit player in this drama," Rep. Anthony Weiner, D-N.Y., a strong backer of the public option, said of the Senate action, per the New York Daily News' Michael McAuliff. "The only question is how this gets mediated at the eleventh hour by President Obama."
"Those of us who support a public option are waiting for President Obama to come in out of the bullpen to seal the deal," Weiner told ABC's Jonathan Karl on "GMA" Wednesday.
(Rep. Raul Grijalva, D-Ariz., the co-chairman of the House Progressive Caucus, will be on ABCNews.com's "Top Line" live at noon ET. Watch HERE.)
Labor lobs one: "A public health insurance plan option is essential to reform," reads the print ad running in The Washington Post and some three dozen other publications Wednesday, from a labor coalition led by the AFL-CIO. "Unless the bill that goes to the floor of the U.S. Senate makes substantial progress to address the concerns of working men and women, we will oppose it."
Did AHIP misplay its hand? "Health insurance stocks took a dive Tuesday, with the S&P Health Care Sector index becoming the worst-performing segment of the S&P 500, largely because of health insurance companies," ABC's Jake Tapper reports. "[That] followed a public declaration of war by the health insurance industry's lobbying arm against the White House's health care reform efforts."
Reid, D-Nev., on the firing line, with Rep. Alan Grayson joining with liberal groups: "With Majority Leader Harry Reid becoming the Senate's new central decision-maker on health care, the Progressive Change Campaign Committee and Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) will deliver Reid nearly 90,000 petition signatures today – telling Reid to lay down the law with conservative Democratic senators so that strong reform can be passed quickly."
"The notion that anyone is now actually in control of this process is an illusion. But to the extent that anyone's hand is on the tiller, it is Reid's," Time's Jay Newton-Small writes.
Can the left out-Obama Obama? A call to action from artists, from Public Option Please: "Arianna Huffington, Jesse Dylan, Marshall Ganz, Arlene Holt Baker, and Aaron Rose have signed on as judges as POP – Public Option Please, today launched the first ever visual arts contest to promote the Public Option. Inspired by artists behind the successful ‘Manifest Hope' project, the effort is designed to cut through the DC ‘insider' clutter and provide a vehicle for artists to make the moral case for health care reform and take part in the debate currently raging in Congress."
Also not sold: "We would like to see more people covered, and maybe most importantly we think [the bill] falls short on the cost containment issues -- both the short-term cost containment issues, but more importantly, long-term cost containment," Ralph G. Neas, CEO of the National Coalition on Health Care, said on ABCNews.com's "Top Line" Tuesday.
The National Republican Senatorial Committee hits transparency in a new Web ad -- a big topic online in recent weeks. "Demand Senate Democrats commit to a public review of the health bill before the final vote (and commit to reading the bill themselves)," the video says.
On Afghanistan -- with more presidential national-security-team huddling Wednesday -- the high-end troop number is even higher than everyone thought.
ABC's Martha Raddatz: "Although the debate is really about the middle option, there is a much higher number included in the McChrystal options. Other sources who have seen the request say the high number of troops requested is 80,000. These sources also say that they believe McChrystal's bottom option has no ‘combat' troops but 10,000 that could be enablers or trainers. This is also considered the ‘high risk option.'"
Is the debate shifting inside the White House? The New York Times' Peter Baker: "From the moment they took office, Mr. Biden has been Mr. Obama's in-house pessimist on Afghanistan, the strongest voice against further escalation of American forces there and the leading doubter of the president's strategy. It was a role that may have been lonely at first, but has attracted more company inside the White House as Mr. Obama rethinks the strategy he unveiled just seven months ago."
Secretary Clinton said she's still mulling what the new strategy should be: "I am still, you know, considering all the different aspects of making this decision. And I will, you know, be prepared to offer the president my best advice when he asks for it." (But she added that she "probably" knows what she'd say if he asked her opinion tomorrow.)
On Iran -- Secretary Clinton is working on Russia: "I believe if sanctions become necessary, we will have support from Russia," she told Cynthia McFadden.
"But we all want to test this diplomatic engagement. So we don't want to look as though we're not serious about it. Because we are serious about it," Clinton said. "The fact that Iran has said they will open itself to nuclear inspections, that it will ship out low-enriched uranium, let's see if they do it."
Key maneuvering on the Hill: Senate Appropriations Committee Chairman Daniel Inouye, D-Hawaii: "I believe Gen. McChrystal's assessment of the current situation and his conclusions, including his assessment that coalition forces must have more daily contact with the people of Afghanistan, is correct," Inouye said, per Politico's David Rogers, "and is what is needed if we are to achieve security and stability in Afghanistan."
Does this impact the debate? "The U.S. military Tuesday reported the biggest surge in recruits since the end of the draft -- an increase that likely will relieve pressure on troops serving in Iraq and Afghanistan by allowing them to spend more time at home between overseas deployments," per the Washington Times' Eli Lake.
On the Senate floor Wednesday, per a GOP aide: "Senate Republicans will be making the case that military courts are the best venue for prosecuting the terrorist co-conspirators behind the 9/11 attacks. We'll argue that trying them in civilian courts is neither appropriate nor safe. Debate on the issue precedes a vote on a key amendment to the CJS appropriations bill, that would prevent the Department of Justice from using funds to try terrorists in civilian courts. The amendment, authored by Sen. Lindsey Graham, could get a vote as early as today."
A stimulating day. Per the White House, at 2:05 pm ET, "the President and Transportation Secretary Ray LaHood will tour the Fairfax County Parkway Extension project, the largest Recovery Act project in Virginia. . . . After the tour, the President will deliver remarks on the economic benefits of the Recovery Act."
New jobs campaign from the Chamber Wednesday: "The U.S. Chamber of Commerce's new multimillion-dollar, multiyear campaign to promote free enterprise begins as the complexity of some public policy issues is making it difficult for trade groups to find consensus among their members," The Hill's Jim Snyder and Kevin Bogardus reports. "Chamber officials say the new campaign, which will use polling and research, advertising and grassroots campaigning, will tackle the biggest issue facing the country: how to create 20 million new jobs to revitalize the economy and keep pace with population growth."
Labor fires back -- AFL-CIO spokesman Eddie Vale: "This 'jobs' campaign is nothing more than a blatant attempt to kill any new financial regulations. The Chamber simply wants to keep the status quo that got us into this recession; it's a level of dishonesty that would certainly make AHIP proud."
Making financial regulatory reform more interesting: "Some of Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner's closest aides, none of whom faced Senate confirmation, earned millions of dollars a year working for Goldman Sachs Group Inc., Citigroup Inc. and other Wall Street firms, according to financial disclosure forms," Bloomberg's Robert Schmidt reports. "The advisers include Gene Sperling, who last year took in $887,727 from Goldman Sachs and $158,000 for speeches mostly to financial companies, including the firm run by accused Ponzi scheme mastermind R. Allen Stanford. Another top aide, Lee Sachs, reported more than $3 million in salary and partnership income from Mariner Investment Group, a New York hedge fund."
Making it even more interesting: "Major U.S. banks and securities firms are on pace to pay their employees about $140 billion this year -- a record high that shows compensation is rebounding despite regulatory scrutiny of Wall Street's pay culture," The Wall Street Journal's Aaron Lucchetti and Stephen Grocer report. "Workers at 23 top investment banks, hedge funds, asset managers and stock and commodities exchanges can expect to earn even more than they did the peak year of 2007, according to an analysis of securities filings for the first half of 2009 and revenue estimates through year-end by The Wall Street Journal."
Intriguing timing from Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn., filling out the resume: "In a push to tamp down health care costs in Minnesota, Gov. Tim Pawlenty Tuesday proposed changes that would allow Minnesotans to purchase out-of-state health policies and let for-profit insurers into the Minnesota market," Bob van Sternberg and Warren Wolfe report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. "The plan would also use co-pays and higher deductibles to steer lower-income people on Medical Assistance and MinnesotaCare toward state-approved clinics -- a move Pawlenty said could trim state costs by $100 million a year."
Transitions: "[Rep.] Robert Wexler of Boca Raton, a self-described ‘fire-breathing liberal,' defender of Israel and friend of both President Barack Obama and Gov. Charlie Crist, is quitting Congress to head a think tank seeking peace in the Middle East," The Miami Herald's Beth Reinhard reports. "In a conference call Tuesday night with Democratic leaders, Wexler said he will become director of the Washington-based Center for Middle East Peace and Economic Cooperation. Wexler, 48, is expected to make a public statement about his plans at a 10 a.m. Wednesday press conference at his Boca Raton office."
The Kicker:
"I didn't do very much. But I had to do some of it, for my country." -- Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton, to ABC's Cynthia McFadden, on doing vodka shots at a diplomatic luncheon in Moscow.
"We simply disagree that he has done nothing. . . . He got the prize for what he has done." Nobel committee chairman Thorbjorn Jagland, to the AP.
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comunism as to be taken out of my country, I'am an ameriacan I'am proud of my country. goverment should stay out of my life...........and my pocket.
Posted by: Alan | Oct 14, 2009 9:27:59 AM
Did anyone think this loser want to be dem.......would vote any other way? Ok, folks time to vote her out of office!
Posted by: Gayle | Oct 14, 2009 9:38:43 AM
When will these socialists realize that America has spoken and we DON'T want the gov't running our healthcare. The left is full of anti-American, anti-capitalist idiots who don't understand that gov't intervention is why we had a mortgage meltdown, and also why we have skyrocketing medical costs. Force the insurance companies to compete across state lines (which is currently not allowed under the law) and make poor people take responsibility for their own actions, instead of FORCING the banks to make loans to people who could never pay them back.
Posted by: Dave | Oct 14, 2009 9:46:07 AM
Funny the people on here bashing Goverment run healthcare. well if your a senior or a veteran guess what YOU GET GOVERMENT RUN HEALTHCARE! And for those of you wanting Goverment out of your life did you bash Bush with the PATRIOT ACT? Biggest Goverment program ever, as well as Homeland Security! and by the way the Senators and Govenors and anyone else in the Politcal spectrum GET GOVERMENT HEALTHCARE PUBLIC OPTION THAT YOU THE TAX PAYER PAYS FOR!
Posted by: Angie in PA | Oct 14, 2009 9:54:01 AM
“When will these socialists realize that America has spoken and we DON'T want the gov't running our healthcare.”
America spoke last November. Americans are still speaking today in support of a public option in healthcare reform:
October Polls
Support/Oppose
62%/31% CBS News
61%/34% Quinnipiac
55%/38% Pew
53%/42% Ipsos/McClatchy*
46%/37% Rasmussen**
*Tied with CNN for most accurate pollster in the 2008 election results
**Choice pollster of conservatives
Posted by: Numeros | Oct 14, 2009 10:32:28 AM
The Left has bankrupted America and will not see another term in Office. So says America, Dems. Clean out your desks and find real work. You've killed the country that gave you birth. The Right is holding you accountable for Her death.
Posted by: WhatChange? | Oct 14, 2009 10:40:17 AM
The healthcare bill is a fraud! If you read the baucus bill you would see that it has a windfall tax on insurance co. like they did to the oil co. and like the oil companies that will be passed on to the insurees in higher premiums for everyone. On top of that there is a fine for anyone without insurance which in legal terms is a tax no matter what you make. it is also a fraud to say that you can keep the insurance you have when the employers are going to dump you into the public option because the fine to them is less than insuring their employees. It goes to their bottom line and in business that's what counts. As far as the senate's and congresses insurance it isn't govt run it is a list of private companies that they have to choose from that give them the cadillac premiums at a fraction of the cost we would pay! That's why they will never take the insurance they are shoving down our throats! If you want to read the bill as it stands right now go to www.finance.senate.gov./ there you will find the link but understand that now it is out of the finance committee it goes to reid, dodd, baucus and the rest of the progressive liberals to turn it back into a far left piece of crap that will cover public option, abortion and illegals just to name a few of the progressive lefts wants! So hold onto your hat because this isn't over!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: lovingpolitics | Oct 14, 2009 10:49:10 AM
What change
You have your guns has anyone taken them away? funny guns are a right in the rights eyes. but Healthcare is not no wonder the Republicans approval ratings are in the 20s care more about guns then people sad and what a shame!
Posted by: Angie in PA | Oct 14, 2009 11:10:22 AM
SAMMY
google it its that easy!
Posted by: Angie in PA | Oct 14, 2009 11:11:28 AM
Government causes a problem by over-regulating health insurance and penalizing insurance companies for doing what they'll soon be doing (rationing care), and then government comes along claiming it's the colution to the problem it created.
Why isn't insurance portable across state lines, raising the price and causing difficulties in patient choice?
Government regulation.
Why are malpractice premiums so high and hence the cost of care higher?
Government regulation.
Why is Medicare bankrupt?
Government incompetence and inefficiency.
Why is the Post Office, Social Security, public sector government, public education and everything else the government runs bankrupt?
Government corruption, incompetence and inefficiency.
Why does EVERY government plan lowball it's costs of administration before implementation and go well beyond projected costs once it's implemented?
Government inefficiency, corruption and incompetence.
NOW - Given the history of government "running things," you'd have to be a blithering fool to think that this massive, naked attempt at nationalization of 1/6 of the US economy will be "personal choice-neutral," "deficit neutral," "raise the quality of care," and "decrease costs."
Or you could just be an O-bot. But I repeat myself.
Posted by: Good Lt. | Oct 14, 2009 11:12:27 AM
Senator Blanche Lincoln voted for the bill yesterday, and she WILL be up for re election next year. BYE BYE Blanche!
Posted by: Alex | Oct 14, 2009 11:14:35 AM
****Intriguing timing from Gov. Tim Pawlenty, R-Minn., filling out the resume: "In a push to tamp down health care costs in Minnesota, Gov. Tim Pawlenty Tuesday proposed changes that would allow Minnesotans to purchase out-of-state health policies and let for-profit insurers into the Minnesota market," Bob van Sternberg and Warren Wolfe report in the Minneapolis Star-Tribune. "The plan would also use co-pays and higher deductibles to steer lower-income people on Medical Assistance and MinnesotaCare toward state-approved clinics -- a move Pawlenty said could trim state costs by $100 million a year." ****
The future of real healthcare reform prehaps? States making reforms based on what their citizenry needs...sounds promising.
Posted by: bobtherepublican | Oct 14, 2009 11:22:16 AM
Angie in PA - You said “Senators and Governors and anyone else in the Political spectrum GET GOVERMENT HEALTHCARE PUBLIC OPTION THAT YOU THE TAX PAYER PAYS FOR!”
You are 100% wrong and need to get your facts together. Contrary to what many believe Congressmen do not have FREE health insurance. Their employer is the federal government and like many employers, it provides him with an insurance plan from a private insurance company (AETNA, Blue Cross, Health Net, Kaiser, etc). Congressmen have been required to get their health insurance in this manner since passage of the Civil Service Reform Act of 1983. In this case the federal government utilizes the Federal Employees Health Benefits (FEHB) plan to provide a choice of different private insurance plans to choose from, the federal government as the employer (like many private employers) pays a portion (approximately 66%) of the monthly premium and the Congressman as the employee pays the remainder. The Congressman is responsible for any co-pays or deductable payments when service is provided by a healthcare provider. The Congressman is also susceptible to the limits within the plan he chooses, none of the plans cover 100% of the costs the insured eventually reaches a point where he has to dig into his own pockets. The governments only other involvement with the FEHB is to negotiate rates and benefits for each plan once a year. If you want to view the plans and their limits, deductibles, and co-pays just Google “FEHB” and go to the site and see what the different plans are.
The FEHB health plans are either nationwide (plan available anywhere within the country) or regional (plan available only in one state or a portion of a state) FEHB allows the Congressman to change between plans once a year during what is referred to as an open season and he can switch with no lapse in coverage due to pre-existing conditions and if he changes jobs within the Federal Government he can take his current plan with him if the plan is available (he moved from one region to another) at his new position, if not he can switch with no problems. If the government were to allow a pool of similar plans to the public the monthly premiums for a family plan would roughly be between $425.00 and $1300.00, for an individual the monthly premium would roughly be between $177.00 and $550.00 and then everyone could have the same health care as our Congressmen. One of the differences in the plan costs is the level of benefits provided and the amount the patient pays (co-pays or deductable) when receiving healthcare.
Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | Oct 14, 2009 11:46:39 AM
Angie in PA - You seem to think that health care is a right to be provided to you by the government, that is not stated anywhere in the Constitution or listed as one of the 17 enumerated powers given to the federal government by the Constitution. To use your logic then every one has the right to a house to be provided by the government, everyone has the right to food to be provided by the government, everyone has the right to a job and the right to a car to be provided by the government.
What happened to people being responsible with their decisions in life? Spend money on your health care before you go get that big screen TV and the complete cable package for it.
Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | Oct 14, 2009 11:58:23 AM
"...symbols and substance, coming just less than a month after Chairman Max Baucus, D-Mont., stood alone at that press conference to announce the long-delayed Finance Committee bill..."
He didn't "stand alone". The black-haired woman standing behind him to his left is a former VP of Wellpoint. What's she doing on Baucus' staff? Making sure he'll say things like, "I can't get 60 votes with a public option."
Welcome to great coverage, and a great change from the current fact that 52% of all bankruptcies are due to medical costs. But insurance and prescriptions are still going to greatly outpace inflation until the economy faces serious collapse and people demand a Japanese type solution: graduate more doctors, private non-profit insurance, private medicine, ONE national network with costs set by a government-insurance company board - half our costs with NO waits, even for specialists, and where the average patient gets twice as many MRI's as Americans.
Posted by: The_Mick | Oct 14, 2009 12:18:41 PM
Want a public option? The only one which will work is one that is managed by the government but ALL costs including the cost of the government employees will be paid for from premiums. There will be NO government subsidy of the program resulting in ZERO cost to the taxpayer. The government can then ensure that there is zero profit in the program and the program will sustain itself from the premiums it charges those partaking of the program. This would also have the government operating on a level (or nearly level) playing field with the private sector.
Posted by: Sandcrab1612 | Oct 14, 2009 12:41:19 PM
The problem in America is not America it is you conservatives who want this to be a heartless every man for himself country.
I can only say Thank God for Obama and the Dem majority who will reform America into an empathetic nation that doesn't leave people behind and doesn't let people go bankrupt simply because the person got sick!
Republican are nearly useless and wrong about just about everything!
Posted by: David | Oct 14, 2009 1:26:00 PM
The insurance companies are going to raise premiums regardless if there healthcare reform or not. Why do the insurance companies do not follow the natural supply and demand of the market?
The healthcare insurance industry will benefit in the longer view by supporting healthcare reform by increasing their market share. When insurance companies are cornering the healthcare market with fixed increases this is called a monopoly. Say Antitrust investigations...
With the four bills in Congress it is not comprehensible to pass a reasonable and effective bill to put the country on the right healthcare track but there more work to do.
Americans must do their share by eliminating poor health choices such as; smoking, over consumption of alcohol, fatty, sugar, sodium diet intakes and lack of exercise. The insurance companies should begin penalizing those Americans who cannot pass a health-check test with higher premiums instead of passing the cost of treating their symptoms to the rest of the insured population.
Posted by: threeriverscrossing | Oct 14, 2009 1:44:13 PM
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