Abortion Deal Clears Way for Health Care Vote

Great!

R.I.P. America

Why is Hawaii being exempt from having to have this health care bill pushed down their throats? Why does Hawaii only have 8% of their residents uninsured? All they did was mandate all employers must provide coverage to all full time employees. Why dont all the states adopt this law? This would solve the problem without having some crazy 1.4 trillion dollar debt. Pretty simple but affective and if congress does not like this idea it is obvious they want to take over our medical system. Why aren't we demanding that they demonstrate they are even capable of cutting 500 billion dollars in waste from the Medicare program.

ON THE ISSUE OF ABORTION IF IT'S YOUR CHOICE WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!!
If the American Government is for the people I would like to know which people? that is!

How nice. Our lawmakers are writing legislation that doesn't include consideration for the health of the woman. In other words - I guess even if she's going to die this is out. Even if she's pregnant with a child that can't survive birth she's not covered. If she's raped she's not covered. I have been transported back to the old days.

This is an idea whose time has come. Thank you Mr President.

Eileen-fire2lite wrote: "ON THE ISSUE OF ABORTION IF IT'S YOUR CHOICE WHY DO WE HAVE TO PAY!!!!!!!!!!!
If the American Government is for the people I would like to know which people? that is!"
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You DON'T have to pay. Since the bill "would bar funds going toward abortion under both the public option and any private plans" can't you tell the answer to your own question?

Enjoy the house victory, cause it will never pass the senate with a public option.

Ahhh! Amerika! Where the law of the land is a paper democracy! The (vocal) minority always rules!

OK. I'm pro-choice, however, I can agree with not covering abortion. After all, how many abortions do you need? I would hope you would only need one in your lifetime.

I'm for this as long as birth control is covered. I'm tired of women getting the short end of the stick when it comes to healthcare. Mammograms, pap smears and birth control should be covered just like men are covered for penile disfunction and other male reporductive illnesses/diseases.

Although I consider myself a liberal in most circumstances I do support the amendment that would not cover elective abortion. The Pro-Choice is spouting off about the health of the mother. In cases of the health of the mother abortion is allowed by the amendment (threat to the mother's health, rape and incest). Most abortions are elective and unnecessary. Why should American tax payers pay for elective abortions for individuals who don't practice birth control? Healthy women who are pregnant and find that fact inconvenient can pay for their own abortions. Organizations like Planned Parenthood can raise funds from their supporters to help defray the full costs of pregnancy termination.

I'm very confused. I have no problem with taxpayers not paying for elective abortions even though I'm basically pro-choice. But I thought that the law ALREADY didn't cover that procedure unless the mother's life was in danger, the other was a rape/incest victim, etc. So I can't figure out what this new amendment means. Does it mean the government stop paying for those termination now?
Does anyone really understand this?

I'm also with *secondlook*. There is no way I want to pay for some old geezer to get "performance pills"!!! I'd FAR rather pay for an abortion for a rape victim.

Abortion deal clears way?
Wait a minute!
Section 222. Essential Benefits Package Defined.
Page 109, line 7-line 8, (e) Abortion Coverage Prohibited As Part Of Minimum Benefits Package.
Hmmm, Minimum Benefits Package, gee, could that mean that it will not be part of the government insurance since the 'Public Option' would be considered a minimum benefits package. Just what part of "Abortion Coverage Prohibited as part of minimum Benefits Package" do Republicans and Tea Party enthusiats 'Don't Understand?'

What about the baby's choice?

Sorry Paul, I see you agreed to that.

I have anger issues on this topic. I'll own it.

I apologize.

So what? Either a court challenge will overturn that part of the legislation, activists will force the government to provided Federal funds through some other government mechanism to compensate, or some rider on another 2000-page piece of pork-filled legislation that no one has time to read will reinstate it. Nothing in Washington changes - it's the same tired political sleight-of hand with a new set of smoke, mirrors, and illusionists.

The people in Congress are so entrenched in the game, they have lost all perspective. I cannot believe grown people act so stupidly and selfishly as to create such hardships for the people in this country, with absolutely no thought to any ramifications. Except of course, they voted themselves exempt from participating in any health care overhaul. I hate them all and wish them all great hardships in their lives.

I don't understand why it wouldnt be covered. WE ALL make mistakes and if something was to happen to a woman one day and she was raped and couldnt afford to get an abortion then what she has to remember what happened to her for the rest of her life by looking at that child. You guys dont understand. AND MOST PEOPLE WHO HAVE HAD AN ABORTION DO USE BIRTH CONTROL....ignorant idiots.

On the issue of illegal immigration? Have you heard anything?