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The Toll: Tragedy freezes politics -- and starts new debates

November 06, 2009 8:05 AM

Klein_3ABC News’ Rick Klein reports:

We're back to discussions of war and peace. And the toll of war comes into sharper focus.

The awful news out of Fort Hood, Texas, is a story that will consume all the political oxygen for a while.

It will replace it with -- depending on the circumstances that develop -- fresh discussions about the physical and mental costs of war, of race and religion in the armed services, and of the nature of the sacrifices the nation asks of its troops.

It comes as President Obama ponders some of the biggest foreign-policy challenges of his time in office. Troop levels have been and will continue to be a major part of that discussion.

And now the nation wants to know as much as it can learn about what that means for those on the receiving end of presidential orders.

Coming Friday, per ABC's Jake Tapper: "White House officials tell ABC News that President Obama will visit with wounded soldiers tomorrow at Walter Reed Army Medical Center. The trip was scheduled before the incident today at Fort Hood, officials said."

Politico's Carol E. Lee: "It is Obama's first visit to Walter Reed as president. It comes as the president is weighing a decision on a new strategy in Afghanistan that could involve committing tens of thousands of more troops to the conflict."

As for the suspected shooter: "He was mortified by the idea of having to deploy," Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan's cousin, Nader Hasan tells The New York Times. "He had people telling him on a daily basis the horrors they saw over there."

"Apparently he became very disgruntled with the mission in Iraq and Afghanistan, voiced that to one of his colleagues," Rep. Michael McCaul, R-Texas, told Brian Ross on ABC's "Good Morning America" Friday.

Said President Obama, late Thursday afternoon: "It's difficult enough when we lose these brave Americans in battles overseas. It is horrifying that they should come under fire at an army base on American soil."

Army Chief of Staff Gen. George Casey and Army Secretary John McHugh will be at Fort Hood Friday.

As we learn more about what happened on the base: "Fort Hood, the Texas military base that was the scene of a mass shooting Thursday, has been hard hit by the growing strain on the Army from multiple combat deployments -- with its personnel suffering the highest number of suicides among Army installations since the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in 2003," Ann Scott Tyson reports in The Washington Post. "After many years of lengthy war zone rotations in Iraq and Afghanistan, Army personnel are experiencing record rates of suicide, post-traumatic stress disorder, depression and other mental health problems, as well as worsening alcohol and drug abuse."  

Health care takes a back seat, for the day: The president's visit with the Democratic caucus has been pushed back from Friday to Saturday, the day of the House vote.

When it's health care time again, remember that the Democrats picked up two key allies: the AARP, and the American Medical Association. (Endorsements may not matter too much, but if either or both of these groups lined up on the others side, what would we be saying about the bill's prospects?)

Another endorsement coming, this one directly from the White House: "The White House will today issue a Statement of Administration Policy today endorsing the health care reform legislation from House Democrats," ABC's Jake Tapper reports. "It will not be a signal that the president favors the House bill over the one from Senate Democrats, officials say."

In getting the votes, the buttons they've got to push will be on the other side of lukewarm: "House Democratic leaders were struggling Thursday to contain uprisings on the hot-button issues of abortion and immigration that have left them little margin for error as they attempt to push through a massive health-care reform bill this weekend," Shailagh Murray and Lori Montgomery write in The Washington Post.

The deciders? "The fate of the bill itself rests on the shoulders of a new generation of Democrats whose young careers will be defined, in part, by the votes they cast Saturday -- votes sure to be used against many of them in 2010," Politico's Patrick O'Connor reports.

"When asked if she had the 218-vote House majority needed to pass the bill, [House Speaker Nancy] Pelosi responded, ‘We will,' " per the San Francisco Chronicle.

"Democratic vote counters, working as thousands of conservative protesters chanted ‘kill the bill' outside the Capitol and later swarmed through Congressional office buildings, said they did not yet have the necessary 218 confirmed supporters," Carl Hulse and David M. Herszenhorn write in The New York Times. "Democratic leaders said they expected to face a series of unusually difficult procedural votes before the vote on the bill itself. Party leaders said they were trying to shape a preliminary vote to allay concerns of anti-abortion Democrats demanding that public money not be used to pay for abortions or go to insurance plans that cover abortions."

What the endorsements mean: "The endorsement by the AARP was prized because the seniors lobby is an electoral powerhouse and it has been skeptical of the Democrats' proposals to reduce spending on Medicare. The AMA's support was a marked turnaround for a group that played a leading role in stymieing past efforts to change the health care system," Janet Hook and Noam N. Levey report, in the Chicago Tribune.

What they don't mean: "The endorsements did nothing to ease the concerns of House Republicans or conservative protesters who descended on the Capitol grounds Thursday to denounce the nearly 2,000-page bill," Jennifer Haberkorn writes for the Washington Times. "Thousands carried posters reading ‘Don't Tread on Me' amid accusations by some in the crowd that Democrats are promoting a health care system that would resemble that of Nazi Germany."

"Dozens of buses, organized by the conservative group Americans for Prosperity carried grassroots activists and concerned citizens from Pennsylvania, New Jersey, Maryland and North Carolina. Organizers said activists became energized after Republican victories in Virginia and New Jersey Tuesday," ABC's Devin Dwyer reports.

In the Senate, the power of 60 as the power of one: "As Democratic leaders enter the intensive phase of their drive to pass health legislation, they must satisfy 60 Mary Landrieus in the Senate -- every Democrat and the two Democratic-friendly independents, each with individual priorities -- as they try to hold together a fragile coalition with no room for error," The Wall Street Journal's Naftali Bendavid writes. "And that has only become more complicated as Democrats from conservative states puzzle over what to make of Republican victories Tuesday in governor's races in Virginia and New Jersey."

Adjusting to that power: "In the wake of Tuesday's vote Democrats have made hay of a GOP civil war, but all is not well on their side either. Move-On and Democracy of America are putting up $3.5 million to fund primary challenges against any Democratic Senator who blocks an up or down vote on the public option," ABC's George Stephanopoulos reports. "Liberal democrats have been at war with centrist democrats throughout the health care debate."

Consequences: "Republican victories in the New Jersey and Virginia gubernatorial races may make some congressional Democrats more leery of backing key elements of President Barack Obama's agenda because of the political price they could pay," Bloomberg's Jonathan Salant writes.

Kim Strassel, in her Wall Street Journal column: "A lot of Democrats are getting a sneaky suspicion Mrs. Pelosi is willing to sacrifice their seats on the altar of liberal government health care. Combined with the election results and Mr. Obama's falling poll numbers, this is no recipe for loyalty. Hello, tipping point. Hello, even crazier Washington."

Peggy Noonan: "What happened Tuesday isn't a death knell, but it is a fire alarm: Something's wrong, fix it, change course. Show humility. Bow to the public."

And if the alarm isn't heard? "If the president -- opposed by a majority of Americans, with almost no support from the other party -- imposes an ideologically divisive health reform, it will smack of radicalism, reinforce polarization, and may cede the ideological center to Republicans for years to come," Michael Gerson writes in his Washington Post column.

Picking up Tuesday's pieces: "Faced with the choice of running as an unapologetic Democrat in a state trending toward his party or keeping his distance from Washington in the fashion of a generation of Southern Democrats, Creigh Deeds tried to do both," Politico's Jonathan Martin reports. "The result: the worst drubbing a Virginia gubernatorial candidate has received since 1961. As Democrats try to glean lessons from Tuesday's election losses, Deeds's case offers a vivid example of the difficulties that their candidates from Republican-leaning or swing states will face heading into the midterm elections."

Iowa time -- already: "Minnesota Governor Tim Pawlenty will make his first Iowa trip as a potential presidential candidate tomorrow to deliver a speech, fueling speculation he is preparing to run," per Bloomberg's John McCormick. "Former Arkansas Governor Mike Huckabee is in the state that holds the nation's first presidential caucus a day later, while former New York Governor George Pataki is scheduled to stop there on Nov. 10. Sarah Palin, the former Alaska governor and 2008 vice presidential nominee, also is considering an Iowa visit."

So we've got our split Democrats -- what about the Republicans?

The big tent -- shrinking. RNC Chairman Michael Steele, on Republicans who run in 2010 supporting the president on health care or stimulus spending: "Candidates who live in moderate to slightly liberal districts have got to walk a little bit carefully here, because you do not want to put yourself in a position where you're crossing that line on conservative principles, fiscal principles, because we'll come after you," Steele said on ABCNews.com's "Top Line" Thursday.

He couldn't have been talking about ... "Florida Gov. Charlie Crist's (R) embrace of President Obama's economic stimulus package is continuing to dog the moderate Republican's bid for the U.S. Senate," per ABC's Teddy Davis. "[Wednesday], Crist told CNN that he never endorsed the stimulus and that he was simply trying to get the best deal for Florida given that the stimulus was headed for passage in Washington. Now the anti-tax Club for Growth is launching a television ad in Florida aiming to ‘set the record straight.' "

A tough course correction: "Facing a primary challenge from the conservative wing of the Republican Party, Crist appears to be trying to rewrite history," Aaron Sharockman reports in the St. Petersburg Times. "But there are mountains of evidence that he not only supported the stimulus, but sang its praises."

"Ever since the Republican's support of the Democratic plan outraged conservatives, Crist has tried to steer a middle course over his stance on the federal spending bill -- but now his explanations are becoming extremely nuanced as his Republican U.S. Senate opponent, Marco Rubio, has hammered him as being a President Obama lackey," The Miami Herald's Marc Caputo writes.

On the air, in New York State: "The opening line of a new television ad by New York Gov. David Paterson (D) is ‘some say I shouldn't be running for governor,' " per ABC's Teddy Davis. "Left unsaid is that the someone is President Obama."

Coming up on "This Week with George Stephanopoulos" Sunday: RNC Chairman Michael Steele and DNC Chairman Tim Kaine join Stephanopoulos in studio at the Newseum. The roundtable: George Will, Sam Donaldson, Cokie Roberts, Donna Brazile, and Frank Luntz.


The Kicker:

"I see this package as a pragmatic, commonsense opportunity to move forward." -- Gov. Charlie Crist, R-Fla., on the stimulus package, in February.

"I didn't endorse it." -- Crist, on the stimulus package, in November.



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Time for you to stop being wishy-washy Obama. Make a decision on the war, and live with the consequences, good or bad. That's part of being a commander in chief, or hasn't Pelosi briefed you on that yet?

Posted by: Machod | Nov 6, 2009 8:28:22 AM

If the so called health care bill passes in congress will Obama not sign it as he promised it is above that 900 billion $ amount that he said he would not sign on to, or is this another chance to break a promise and lie again.

Posted by: earl | Nov 6, 2009 8:42:25 AM

Time to CUT AND RUN WHEN AMERICANS starting to getting murdered miles from their homes and a war with no defined goal ,people who will kill any one with a sucide bomber how can you win in asovereign state ,TIME TO CUT RUN.

Posted by: marvinknight | Nov 6, 2009 9:14:03 AM

Muslims should not be allowed in the Military for this reason. Religious ideology is more important than national security. Wasn't the last attack on a US base by a muslim too in the army.
Im not in favor of internment camps but military service is out of the question it is like having nazis in the army during ww2

Posted by: Kiall | Nov 6, 2009 9:34:37 AM

A horrific incident occurred at Ft Wood yesterday.

But inline with rightwing Obama Derangement Sysndrome (ODS), expect President Obama to be blamed in 3...2...1....

Posted by: New Wave | Nov 6, 2009 9:35:07 AM

Unstable people will go on rampages and kill people, it's happened numerous times in the U.S. and elsewhere, at post offices, malls, religious centers, shools and universities.

If Hasan didn't lose it at Fort Hood, who is to say he wouldn't have lost it at another workplace, or in response to a divorce or other personal dispute?

This doesn't need to be turned into a political discussion, there are already issues with what our involvement in Afghanistan should be.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | Nov 6, 2009 9:36:15 AM

"...accusations by some in the crowd that Democrats are promoting a health care system that would resemble that of Nazi Germany."

Right, because everyone knows that Hitler was all about providing universal access to health care...

Seriously, how can you have any kind of debate with these people? Facts and reality don't matter.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 9:43:04 AM

"In other words, he was your typical liberal."
Dave | Nov 6, 2009 9:37:17 AM

What was it - about 12 hours for you to turn the murders of our troops into a crass political talking point? Stay classy Republicans.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 9:44:14 AM

This is a very unfortunate event in my home state of Texas. This guy obviously was on the fence between his loyalties to America and his fellow Muslims on the receiving end of our bombs overseas. It will be interesting to see what his real motivations were assuming he survives. To me this is a consequence of war, especially illegal ones that are preemptive. The sense of morality for such events is lacking especially to ones that identify with the attacked party.

Posted by: Huh | Nov 6, 2009 10:00:47 AM

Unarmed soldiers? Why is this the case? These guys know how to handle weapons. Why are they not carrying some sort of pistol. As in most of these mass shootings, an armed populace would have put a quick end to this mess.

Posted by: Huh | Nov 6, 2009 10:06:23 AM

Chill, Dave. My posts sometimes disappear too. It's not a liberal/rightwing issue, it's about taste. We all cross the line periodically, that's why there is a moderator.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | Nov 6, 2009 10:20:45 AM

jhw539
My post said:

Actually, Hitler was a HUGE advocate of universal healthcare- look it up. He was a SOCIALIST (NAZI= National Socialist German Workers Party)...

All of the "revolutionary reformers" turned dictators in the last 100 years have always run on the platform of universal healthcare- mao, stalin/lenin, pol pot, hitler, castro, chavez.
But what the left always seems to forget is that after these governements have obtained total control of their citizens, 250,000,000 people have been MURDERED by these socialist/communist regimes.

Posted by: Dave | Nov 6, 2009 10:32:48 AM

Let's see if Emperor O'Babble has something to say about the shooter being a Muslim; a member of the "religion of peace".

Posted by: Ron | Nov 6, 2009 10:38:20 AM

Dave

Europe, Scandanavia, Canada and Australia have universal healthcare coverage. Are you going to call Crocodile Dundee a fascist?

You're silly.

Posted by: Amy in Maine | Nov 6, 2009 10:51:37 AM

Like the case of sudden death of Michael Jackson, many wonder why the news media spent so much coverage to this military rampage inside an army base. Last week, there was only a very short report on some newspapers that over 20 military personnel died of suicide during the month of October, which is surprising. Today, there is other big news which is more important, i.e. the jobless rate has risen to 10.2% and in DC, there was a demonstration by 20-50 k people from all over the USA against Pelosi's health care reform bill.

Posted by: austin | Nov 6, 2009 10:55:06 AM

First time for Obama to visit Walter
Reed? That says all you need to know.

Posted by: grizzlybare | Nov 6, 2009 10:58:18 AM

"First time for Obama to visit Walter
Reed? That says all you need to know."
grizzlybare | Nov 6, 2009 10:58:18 AM

No. Obama visited Walter Reed the day before he was inaugurated in January. It was his fifth visit (prior to that he visited in July). The Right wing is pushing a lie again, that says all you need to know.

Posted by: jhw539 | Nov 6, 2009 11:16:51 AM

"Im not in favor of internment camps..."

Gee, how decent of you. Maybe we should just have them wear a yellow Crescent Moon on their clothes.

"it is like having nazis in the army during ww2"

What about Japanese soldiers? You do know that there was a unit of Japanese-American soldiers that fought quite well on behalf of their country even when the US was holding their relatives in camps?

Posted by: OB-Wan222 | Nov 6, 2009 11:25:01 AM

golly I sure hope they don't torture this guy.

Posted by: patrick | Nov 6, 2009 11:58:37 AM

Dave,

Dude, we're getting a healthcare reform bill! Not being forced to work on a collective farms!

OK?

Posted by: Amy in Maine | Nov 6, 2009 12:25:37 PM

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